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there's no evidence in the world once again welcome to word on words the butter did not the butler the budget that's the title of a mystery novel a phyllis richman welcome to word on words and there she is that is the face in the sky is a restaurant and food critic for larsen post and she's written that the butler did it and i'd area yeah the data not throughout this book i couldn't figure out the butter was hard at it and to get even as the thing that i loved as mystery writers i know that you had a great game you had the airlines lay a breezy in integrated connected it to the united states so watson dc your hometown right way to do while you were right where restaurant to look at it like comes in the door and
says they all say is that for us and so you create this early you know for a law in which you not for alarms often he dies at a table reagan counted as scholars and it has an unknown companion there were them goes off into the night and then the question is who did it who was that companion <unk> solve gillian i'll ask you if you knew when you knock it off which one was so slick skills when i thought i did but then when i get close to the end of the book i realize i was wrong the person i thought kill them actually didn't was somebody else and that i mean it sounds ridiculous i wrote the book it's my book that on it when it's it's the kind of agatha christie ending and i want to say any more about it but suddenly it occurred to me that i was full two fell on what i learned this is
the first fiction and what i've learned is that your characters do take over we hear about that we don't believe it was forever twenty five years i cannot tell you how many turns off of the sat in a chair and said this character or that character got away from me as character with the new dominant figure one of being in significant adjunct to the plot this person was insignificant when it began and bringing down bigger well well what so what what happened and to them to change or i take it to the person you thought those the killer were you in that in the finances as a suspect oh sure there was obsessed by leisure are in their own gas there on a suspect they are you might have done it well i think we might we might just a given and you lose a little of sense of the plot if it's not the earl agatha christie r o helium indy wants is a dominant figure
in the heroes of the greatest french actors ever cooked in this country and it is an older is about to expand he's he's also been out of a restaurant in new york yes every every major shaq is opening restaurants in other cities now certainly times to launch certainly knew it would be the last model of anybody ever know well it all comes from inside me so korea must be at some level i would say here's a little of the shrapnel that check on he's just a chef was a familiar figure of new to me without being any one particular show i think a lot of chefs think that they're that they were the model for elaine oh yes they all eurozone late at night they certainly do not ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha jokey every day with doesn't anymore in the middle east and an identity cemented and then these babies and hit me and some of what we say i say that to her john years but this is a very
funny and a very exciting and very surprising piece of fiction and i commend the dia is as anything you don't understand our everything you do you wanna know who did it and bowed to like yes yes well the white house pastry chef the real white house pastry chef help solve this crime that's exactly that's exactly right out the messiah mean you do bring the white house even the president to have forty big we get just a glimpse of the washington nationals were you you're walking to work rewarding from her office to lunch and you see the white house the amazing to ride it that's right now in the the latest of that let's let's do when the curtain just this month our heroine is surprisingly a washington restaurant food critic i asked it so happened to be a charlatan sue we share his weed right
exactly and is humanity anybody we know there's nobody on the plaza lynne is four inches taller than i am et la ah ah ah ah ah she's forty eight and i won't tell you how he also was a very active love lived in like a dummy that is automating their debut as well i will dave is investigative reporter watched an examiner and she is she's a critic for the janitor and i'm you know i thought it was interesting as she goes into the restaurant and she gets a waiter brian very attractive young guys who i thought was going to be so flash in the pan figure a simple lunch today and she'll and so familiar go away neil never appeared in three and a legit digits again and it turned
out to be a real help to write in and chaz daughter came along and took up with bryan fischer i do expect that the long lead she did i do like the guy she was going with now scotland me that exactly kathryn chess is trying to separate them anyway and then brian really feel that those who are the world so you know i mean no one says this move was tragic i found that a sudden i never heard of that jackson before about six months ago and i was working on a piece of literature myself and i asked medical doctor well they treat heart patients with and i found somebody else who did that and look back to your acknowledgements to say and david ige oxen which is that the drug for our occasional then you rely heavily on loan one another for the show yes i had a number
of advisors on that that i'm the cardiologist it that a former head of the food and drug administration another him several medical people but also some years ago i happened to be sitting in on some hearings in canada that concern some that by jackson deaths of intense in hospitals so i'm in i think that stayed with me was less less so our view is how it was that this was not a heart attack ny view lace and a drink brandy with the jumps and i you can make those heavy enough i'm not only to kill a person but to make it appear that it's on the right especially since our lives had a history of heart of rondonia so it everyone thinks that it is a heart attack
but lawrence had a problem lots a lover passionate man who had great relationships with women had great difficulty me was evident on the day before a great event in which he was to provide food right anytime he had a cooking contest coming up or some big event where his food was going to restore it to its onerous that the night before he could barely sit up straight i mean he was just in the bathroom i guess struck me anyway so he would never dreamed of being with a woman the night before one of these
advance because our username and one any woman to seem like that this so yeah that and so everyone assumed that what really happened was ebola woman all of that in the act seduction are the god that he'd need that are there right eye hero and new because you in paris for a very brief period she knew that it was absolutely impossible since the city taste was coming up that very evening impossible it could happen she was the only one that you know i wanted to we'd ever confessed the robbery so he first yeltsin tells dave investigative reporter and they put on homewood jones the detective and homer is quite a character himself i was like a lot of people she was tired about murder the investigation he was a bad rep two to life
he found that the case i found that often the case they'll give up all you want on the bob aldrich get me together with stock river island analogy that the book you want you want the lines actually actually was related the screen but one of the interesting things is the way you describe people the end i'm in gourmet terms aren't somebody is as saving as rice pudding that's claire you're married clara marie claire guess we ran in early and require a soothing as rice pudding was just about homer on banking now but bryan i caught a lamb chop and brian was a lamb chop chop and then homo was is conscious is tyranny law says graham says if there is a dog well she has a hard time
convincing homer but all the son who have the murder is begins to threaten our own it was nerve wracking she gets some chocolates and her editor andy that her editor of the things that the food energy gets it is bull is really heard right up and my upper echelon that it ah but any different attitude seems a chocolate cherry is a monthly losses right right so that sets up a really fascinating problem for a restaurant critic who has to be out in public all the time how is she going to avoid being poisoned how she got into her job how she can eat restaurants how she can sample everything at the table and not risk poisoning so that with a puzzled evans find a figure out you get it but you get the army are saying
about the book is that you do create a number of people with moment and bibi is unloading the girlfriend areas among the ex husband her exposed to as his excellency jazz it's urban area paul his rental harry's friend as a moment running and one by one you create suspects and then one by one those suspects began sue diminish somewhat synonymous with iran as sensitively and an outdated now have a gala in the bbc you may also be very quick rye only and what she said was a legal she was such an obvious one suspect be neither a friend and she would be obvious suspects is no point sitting around as a suspect too long it that gets boring that's right so i wanted more subtle suspects to emerge
these sister janine right right the habit she was a likely suspect what i found that soon be farmed out to new york and one janine was a likely solution that she's she's a tough woman and all her life has been poured into this brother of hers this is a chef mario now not our marceau is maura keisling is markedly higher of religion et al came to berkeley of persuading is lawrence's pro life sister i just sweated him to come to this country says she came with them you know her husband died or paris or god's image when she had nothing to live in her life but lawrence he was her life see i really thought you did well be julian i don't know whether she didn't write well and it was like a lawyer ha ha ha ha ha ha while it any one moment i would suggest that maybe chapter that maybe chavez sure it sure doesn't shield and that's pretty early
on there and as usual reasons it's better than sex but i'm a restaurant critic there was one thing about this but that bomb somebody who's been in regular time i met don yes and i met a lot of hard to believe and on but i knew she's a rapper and a day at dawn is gone is is gonna make it in the news business i'm joe walker will people to get their own and she's going to find people to get there as a lot of people get their shouldn't put down her colleagues to get there if there is some of a zoo he's a bit of a star running feud going to trust your stardust and so should dawn comes along and and she she tries to make says think that they usually after an injury and then i thought about that way whereas a little manic
well playing come from there is a person i know who has talked about the men she's had things were in such journalist the guests such detail from your newsroom no i didn't tell me about the love affairs she's had with men and i know absolutely positively she has no fears of them but they were so accurate they were so detail that even though i knew was untrue still you know she's that made me doubt for a moment and that's what she does yeah that's what he does jeff talk about dave i tell them about the bathtub and going and immediately chen is right how which a lot of scorpion there because she's so convincing that show that chaz only the dawn rather than her own lover going to keep coming back to it
in an ad for dave meditative that way all the time they're in a cha created in law went out let's talk about this guy's from and even now this late date there may be some people who don't understand how important it is for you over chairs to walk into a restaurant and not be recognized talk about what happens when you are and when you're not it's not that it's impossible to review a restaurant when you recognize that it makes a lot more difficult to work harder at it and i you spend your time fending off the attentions of the owner who wants to lay all his troubles i've even so you're exactly right so i'm a new us pick the one for you write an exiled idea if you get started it adibi are plenty
of the preachers price on it right so that you have the line i use is you know if that if you don't let me pay from our wine i can write about a restaurant so then they understand unless you do it is that the the triumph over over over the hope hope over experience i recently wrote about mystery dinner theater and it wasn't maybe the worst review ever and it was just me bio and every other mystery dinner theater caught up to bed that i mean the number of the goblet of butter idea that syria they although that was put on your right a plan put it on you don't review if i want to show our view as if this is any way that we can come in on this border maybe it is this is a jacket photographs ah that's the literature and white hair that's terrific now there are you
know people and what's an easier euros the country got really being recognizing a mass i know that i've been the pose restaurant critic for twenty years so they're play restaurants are recognizing that i don't want any more to be able to end you know when when you're recognized they can't really change the food but they can work it trying to change experience they kill you with kindness they overwhelmingly service they change your coffee cup three times the chinese restaurant they keep changing the rise and i think i know a couple of concert you have really enjoyed yes i think in kincaid's in dallas others are to find restaurants well i know i've been the most of all i saw galileo supposed to work hard now they move they move kill the streak to twenty three years ago mirrored in eleven missing mia restaurant entre be set an ant ideal tyranny suez their deliveries to
the one done it really was the wild baboons law excuse me i knew you were but but they also you're able to give so thoughtful people know washington and many people travel washington and many people in washington have to go somewhere it's fun i supposed to be able to tell a little bit about the town itself and about the rest of the way i mention it i mentioned a restaurant i mentioned kincaid i mention that i rented out of gallons of awe and passion of cash and son i have a recipe in there for the hat all of those are if you're going to look at the back of the book finally did after having us not recipes for one of my favorite restaurant deserves its eight cows only stuffed with utah chaffetz kick the hazelnut calzone and i made a variation a nutella as a brand name
product that you can find everywhere so i made a chocolate peanut butter filling as well the views i'm so this pizza dough for a desert and it's a little complicated but it's a great question and it's something go and haven't copies restaurant in washington's well well i am an idea what always through the end and then read the desert but i thought maybe there's some people are going to find out one uno dillard do you ever do that we read them is to go back to the only if the book is so boring that law i don't think anybody would this now i think you have in the law oh no i'm not ready for love sex and another mystery and another danger unless you're into the plot to to keep people were there did you have trouble
with the editors of the book the book editors i mean i know that one problem i had was that that hitters kept wanting to put more recipes in it i wasn't open any recipes in but they find persuade me to put one and didn't want to be seen as a cookbook but there are things that you could cook from reading this book there isn't that have no fat potato salad that that really struck a zillionaire you could you could make they're the claim for years maria down the rizzo till i just from the description that in the text and i didn't want to disrupt the process with recipes probably not his famous noodle know i'm waiting to see whether some chef at that reinvents their allies is fame of the political debate and said yes yes indeed a day like ravioli airing large square ravioli with a special dough that is so thin and translucent that that he can make a
design like a quilt in it and behold it's not hoarders design and you can see through the know and nobody else has ever been able to make those it's a lot of the nuances of the user you have created a fictional oh a lot of sexual diseases creating recipes didn't really creating dishes creating fruits and things that were on the verge of being trans or on things that is special ingredients in and just being able to depict a chef by the dish he made friends and sound the inimitable washington patrick i had him is serving a hot jalapeno sorbet an i did call on the names of the nineteen nineties you know it's interesting to me
how well the blue eyed about food get involved intimately with that end the only going to have a period known which on those of those great i guess it's not a fad or a craze maybe it's here to stay this whole idea about whole foods something you need and people say whoa world bees was i had her julia child sitting where you're sitting at it had brought cookbook down and publishers shouldn't do this because of this as movement you probably remember the book she came in third factor you go i like miller that's what he said i would prefer usual but are allowed and further use sugar and and we like to cook i don't and if i don't do much remember cooking anymore needs to have very elaborate things now i do simple foods
how do you pick and choose and the house you get a sense here which has already knows the turf and there is one case where she's with her daughter so about the suburbs and man and they really into this mama mia mama mia is russia and are terrible like six and twelve or fifteen old and you know which didn't surprise o'neill yes it's all been among the ways anybody's time don't come here right i don't think there's any point in taking newspaper space to write to tell people not to go to a restaurant they would never hear of otherwise it's an important restaurants bed tell them that it's a restaurant that their lives totally unknown don't bother to end and how do you get how do you decide how you pick and choose one doesn't have to be a restaurant that it's even been established as a place that attracts people or that is on the way up or
easily on which is that the criteria i tried to get on the import new restaurants and that's the first job and then in between i try to get back to restaurants a change in some important way in a new chef or they've your revamp in someway occasionally i'll review an old restaurant that just haven't done reminded people for a long time been a washington there's so many new restaurants are just covering the new ones can keep a calm going forever you ever worry about where'd don graham hoyland down even know they worry about where it ha ha ha
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A Word on Words
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2511
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Phyllis Richman
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Nashville Public Television
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1997-05-27
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Chicago: “A Word on Words; 2511; Phyllis Richman,” 1997-05-27, Nashville Public Television, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed June 26, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-524-pg1hh6d887.
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