A Word on Words; 3720; RB Quinn And Mindy Merrell

fb liz from nashville studio way celebrating offers literature ideas for more than three decades this is word on words dawn johnsen though once again welcome to word on words i guess today and there are two of them that dedicated jenkins of barbecue diversity from the open pit to the clothes along the slow cooker audie when and then a narrow barrier talk about their new book she a barbecue barbecue in a gun anywhere in the world on the many welcomed the world were

so much great that you talk about this book which is loaded with information about barbecue not most people eat barbecue or rims or pull again everything is in here from the apple doesnt to the entree deliver their timing the soup to nuts it's right here including some parties party says the whole party in this book you have the whole party in this book thats exactly right and i am i don't know anything about the kansas city society i don't even know about the jack daniel's competition know but some veterans competition had another body begin by asking you were i think this book might've begun and that was on the trip to kabul ah there is a barbeque competition in global and the two of you loaded up the

truck and poker and your off partying in the suburbs of global and the desiccated in and the barbecue was all ivy the idea was by doing that i had that was the alarmed gently because we judge the judge informed view competition many times and been trained by the kansas city barbecue society and i spent the better part of my lifetimes at things far in the backyard but i thought it'd be a better judge if we got on the other side of that oh the helm of the table and so we did we pack it up just like the beverly hillbillies and headed out i had the most primitive stem rust covered garbage can smoke or bullets mortars you can imagine and the oh my ace in the hole whose family you know everyone slept in the car so we did we we set up an apple ten thing allen and off we went and really i thought you know about two third the morning one of a new pier

by i went into the cooler i realize never pack the beer underneath all the ice will coplen sixteen just honestly that that one can talk about after the holy of the major hurdle but we have turned his religion food and we came in second to last the nice thing about the book is that not that great recipes for everything that candor they will have to be a cheater he have to be you have to give yourself permission to want to do to be honest about what you're doing which is you just taking the one of the oldest forms of cooking there is which is the cheaper the meat relatively cheap today some seasonings and smoke some low steady heat and then walking away leaving them alone and all we did was just take the outdoor version which is full of gear and late night rivalry in all fallen and

brought inside for the weak weeknight cooker or the week the everyday kitchen and it took the outdoor guy who likes to do things are well always there are always are go ahead sorrentino ignite get the last little macabre the suit through the crucial me when i talk to me a little bit about the slow stuff it somewhere in this book it says there are lows who've cooked to a comfortable lead two and fifty degrees fahrenheit two and twenty five degrees fahrenheit that's a long slow this how important is slow or to your barbecue is that we're not making a quick barbecue or just cheating by moving it into the kitchen and low heat is the key to bomb making cheap tough cuts of me tender cause it's kind of dissolving the young the fibers exerts a pull apart tender so that's what you need you've got to have a low slow heat and

hey guess what the oven in the crock pot duty that beautifully but you don't have to attend to the caravans are chopping the wood and a new view you can just really leave it alone and go away nicely but you argue as a well meant nice and for me some days when i like that there's a lot more time for chores and i was i started cheating the garza never in cleaner another bassist it the more time playing guitar because you really don't have to of fiddle all day and all and all night this one is that is by taking away some of that work you also take away some of the variables that i think people of ten over do with barbecue the over smoke it cause they think a look you know of one would trump piece of woods good was good culturally get there man orally they overcook it the drying out and then leave you know mop it up a lot a sauce we tried that likes to strip out all of those variables with the steady here that slow cooker which is pretty consistent and the liquid smoke which is easy to

measure and like a seasoning possible to dial in just the way you like it you know you have to talk to me about bottled smoke i never heard a bottle of smoke well it's liquid smoke and it really is liquid smoke i know lots of people think that that little bodily combine grocery store is some kind of crazy chemical on friends from our factory in new jersey or something but actually it really is smolder hardwoods and they capture the smoke and lower the temperature so crete slow condensation and then the bottle that and there've been lots of brands and its available from wal mart to whole foods and people have been using it for the last what four year old city approved in the sixties as a national product and every piece of bacon every coal caught every hot dog you don't know anyone actual smoke flavor is liquid smoke what's unusual though is to see in that little retail bottle or most people don't really know what to do with is it does seem to be able to tell me what i do as well as they have got it and i'm

about undocumented twenty five thousand i got that bottle in miami i just did the ultimate sheer pulled pork rice peanut crop up again the simplest way to get really great barbecue with the least of my work is just to take that of an ad to fifty or the slow cooker go to the store and get yourself the whole big well boston but the pork shoulder gets into your dna five to seven pounds bone in bone on doesn't matter bring a helmet to go with rapper get a little dry rub which you can also buy the store or make a yeah tom salt pepper paprika and anything else you like most most folks of barbecue called the secret ingredient in a literary wits and we have to kill you if we tell you the secret is which really there is a one domed some of that on there and then take that bottle of us will import in it's only nearly four on four ounces and for seven counties to meet you just literally sport in and don't put another thing in their crop of berries all sagal yet a whole lotta

love recipes are you know a teaspoon of this city was worth it doesn't seem to amount to anything and the blue don't like and i think put a teaspoon on something that they didn't actually cook liquid smoke work so much better when it's cooked in with the food and you put that cover on the meat will break down you'll get across because you don't have about barbecue sauce or any other liquid in there what he would say that number up if you don't put the liquid bubbling liquid and there's plenty more assured that no meters turn a non lego but the cover and go i listen live alum bookman in that says your favorite recipe you have the next one well i've been working to marketing firm more than twenty five years so i've developed recipes for everybody from kraft marshmallow cream toothpaste to kind of sauce to jack daniels to martha white flour and cornmeal so this was just another fallen i'll create a project to get air to wrap our heads around and think and

part producer recipes selling homemade major from virginia tech hill that's what i do in these cities that you have tried created and some of both well yeah i my children are sick of barbecue today's kids are honest they don't like it you know into second civility and inspector the drawing workers or they don't like it then there's something wrong with the us and we were doing all his party recipes in the ps man that happened to stop by the house he thought we had a whole lot in the backyard now and all the time really that smoke makes the whole house have a nice aroma explodes the season when he or the error on is if you put the brisket in overnight to fifty with political you're putting like a damp towel you know under the bedroom door because of the four thirty in the morning and that's what gets the bed ridden your story rather than enough really alter the kitchen easy way out until alum into and into a pit because that small plane will break right open

and impart itself and the meat and it doesn't matter what it use the oven reds the pork shoulder the the brisket it does the job that i didn't think possible and alaska either to be writing a book about liquid smoke or cheating oh yeah mac one of you at the bar it's not a real peace award and i wasn't interested in it i was shocked that i mean we tried this just a rule about as a possibility and then when it works we thought we'd thirty yesterday merck has never worked as a critical to get inside and there are lots of people out there that barbecuing the hard way just not they're kind of thing happen if you live in a small apartment in new york city in a year what have a little barbecue to watch the super bowl or you know there's bartok you're doing it the hard way all night is lots of fun but what about the other three hundred and fifty nine days earlier saying well you know you talk about the super bowl and i'm super bowl parties

let's talk about what a new marriage or pulled pork or chicken barbeque chicken there's saul an assault on here or there or beans and there begins in here there are there's a cornbread and there is already been here on there is desert and there is a desert in here all sitting right all cheating end what would you say about the number of recipes in the book that came directly from your own experimentation you was still don't like economist onshore you play around with a little radio all problems there are recipes and the inspiration come from everywhere has really had to work with we thought we are inclusive seafood even though the down here we don't think of seafood is being critical of our curated but my own towns in rhode island

um entering a barbecue competition don't start your name with wii because they then you get pushed down to the u wand the last they know that those are other people are really green behind is you would imagine it would you fix up a monday night to live well the main entries we did that would give the brisket needed the pork shoulder we did the pork ribs and we did the chicken thighs they were militia is but i guess to us they were delicious and we really enjoyed them a brunch that sunday really falling about the nafta throw out the thing about cooking barbecue sometimes the cookers are one ear right away it's better to sit for a few days the rivers are all to use it use i think you probably put in this book that he would rather have to wait a couple days before he goes after right right you get over sculpt

and you can you know little goes a long way i i find that the most fun thing about cheating for me is you really do get to enjoy your own party because if you've done it thursday night or while you're at work friday or thursday before the week and party and you put it all up and it sits for a while you really cuts at its airy afternoon or a sunday times on this line is the reason windham part that the judges so poorly totally happy with the level of it was there were four brothers who were in the booth next to us and they had a really nice close big small private one of them bought and it was there for others we get instead of canoeing they decided to do the competition they came in one place ahead of us and he was furious so and we all went to the final say can we all had pretty good chance of awareness and so i saw how mad he was and i had my two little are to the two small disney hall that they are drug i feel so

you're getting into a whole thing to a party when the numero about their buggy barbecue barbecue in a family or in any weather and most often endorse according to you and i it like five cents to me but then add some people who say you know if we don't if we barbecue everything from seed finance mean there won't be let's talk a little bit about about other things that are in this book and beyond beyond the beef from beyond even the borders beyond because you that sounds a bit about the silence obviously is for me salomon barbecues all right and you that's all in your head and talk

about distinctive florence williams look we call clean and thickness law pretty seriously dating you actually time for the sides to be taken seriously right is what we're trying to do good have great side dishes when you've got the poor golf cooking all by itself in the crock pot or in the oven so slaughter is is just a recipe of ratios like anything it depends on where you're from but there's vinegar sugar and salt and dan mayo are no mayo and how you put those three together is really what kind of slightly like of course you know toward the east and that in north carolina and the real pulled pork area they really like the vagaries law because the kind of cuts the fat as you go further west looks like a little bit more mayonnaise and one that we put in their head is male yet has a kind of an even balance that's slightly man easy but not to mandate e and then the show then an n and sort of sweet but not too sweet it was kind of like a good easy balance

which is kind of like like we did our own barbecue sauces as well we use the interstate system to time give folks to work through the united states are in the kinds of sauces barbecue sauces everybody likes still want your cheating please make your own sauce make your own slaw yellen to get getter jar find a jar make your own dry rubbed many were not done educating not cooking already changing in the kitchen and learn more about how the needs work in and we'll barbecue i think what you would you figure how easy it is to make a good sauce and how easy it is to tweak it to the way you like it the bottle stuff at the store is great for an emergency but you can move past that because you know exactly what your ingredients are and they're simple pantry items and they to give you a chance to kind of dress up to argue that the way you want to live apart and nephews in savannah college of art design is a senior and he is idea cooking was a waffle in toaster oven or still falls was on he has an imam for sure as a kid and

never forgot it so i said in that book he immediately went shopping found bullet but small got the slow cooker cooker going to me and he had role for cooking their way through the book and everybody is as house all the time because he's now feeding people cause it really is about real cooking it's not a thirty minute shortcut meal it's just a strip down method so that you can accomplished the goal of about barbecue at home without as much work as the outdoor but you still have to buy real food and you have to go to a regular grocery store by regular ingredients it's it is as you say somewhere in the book the fund is talking about consolation enjoyed laughing unintelligible eleven there aren't there also are suits in here that is tennessee widely known for doing by the us

among others well there are actual barbecues we try to incorporate other cut other kinds of art as well as just we had no there aren't you in tennessee so we want to kind of stretch or side dishes a little further in that way too and it says well we have green county end of filipino adobo so we're trying to arm i mean archie was a disease is a human constant re we've all been cooking cheap cuts of me over fire for on site anytime americans and inventive we just kind of fine tuned it are our way and then we have our regional differences but the worldwide kind of food fast so we were hoping to do get people other ideas about just getting past the idea of a local pork sandwich or chicken or or the ridge those are the favorites in the go to recipes but barbecue is it is a worldwide phenomenon and in that each region offers its own little mom take on senate leaders include the back of the soaps bats in the chapter called to time and she hears it is you're

right the sun vanishes the process yes the upcoming pop up with a maze sometimes make the brisket just for that right now and the army has a lot of friends that i got into the action and they act you know you pictures of what they're doing the next day dr speaking of the design of the book it's really terrific the colors are attracted on the photographs i examined carefully i thought i recognized a motorcycle somebody's backyard where one as for verrilli

the litmus test now is of its two hour for me to carry out from the street to the patio doesn't get up there but otherwise i liked one of each place now this place i don't like it that was riding the vegetables that we just roasted in the island that easy to give them can have of all kinds of fights dinners and barbecues and would you and give you give you cook and cauliflower would you put a little bubble small gong yeah you could just i mean that something that doesn't need a whole lot less just the hands of of that system mr that really is all you need an and i wouldn't serve that with a really smoking meet a few hearty guy if he wants to smoke on the cauliflower i the smoke everything actually it's fallen to balance really honored

is the key challenge on about your own going to crop up all in the book and the book also when that was our goal is a photograph of a slow cooker that has flames on it and it was flamed out by a good friend of mine and riley was a rush hour madison's painter mr harvey and we just bought a silver no name slow cooker from sears or somewhere and we use it flamed out ms dolly parton go the whole way and they got busy with the oil paints in the tape and all and and and not every take over we go we bring nothing with us sure brought turntables are added that thing i you know makes one one the production in china with things because it is the most fun kind of tongue in cheek statement about what your barbecue really as a mean it's smoky fiery food inside you know your grandma slow cooker so you are dressed up can really change the impression people are they're probably gets you know it gets pot roast and its chilly and you know about

rising be familiar for winner only what you know again it's the greatest bust strikes only to an outdoor smoker i think you can get really what we're really trying to do is just don't do something that you are well acquainted with and that is just embrace diversity and understand that both the the barbecue that takes all night is loads of fallen but just sometimes it's just not practical or you just don't feel i don't really engage and cheaper sometimes ok to be the only the only problem is you have to give yourself permission to open up a bottle of liquid smoke and what will we found is indian and researchers who put this book together is there are times when we really feel like the christopher hitchens i usually look over her shoulder says he was of tongs is coming or were hostile agree that we are kind of deconstructing the methods of the barbecue which you know people really love argued it's usually someone

else's that they're talking about a large man with a big mustache and a set of suspenders and that always bodies with that their logo on it there are a lot of ways in this and that sum of folks may not ever want to embrace cheating and i fully understand it i would've been one of those people you about four for all the rest of us which is many feeling like you can do this on your own is really important because water up a book and then your kids are a few people think that they cannot do this this is it's really simple we will remain a complicated with the rules and the competition's in the tv shows i've been caught a barbecue root out and so inspired chris richards we saw we would just strip out the mess and just take it down to its bare bones and see what worked and so far so good in the narrow three sources for the chocolate caramel and

toasted marshmallows was an alternate come about the post of marshmallow well really just playing around doing on the classic outdoor desert some orders and down broadening the oven on amy did you saw the liquid smoke on india on the marshmallow and put the chocolate in on that graham crackers are other cookies at eli put on the marshmallow and put it under the broiler for made it and they are spectacular you know ash from the fire yeah and it not falling into fire there were about to get an artistic simple legal online dating and it's very you can get to them is an ad linda and i will do some like this again it we loved islam with this again are our overall pro project is called cheater chef our blogger food blogs at uber chef dot com and in that we do some of this kind of food but it's really i'm oh a diary of our food jackson win at all thomas

the food jagged changes about every seventy two hours so junior chef really the goal is to help more people do more cooking on their own we also have a new ingredients not fancy food the fancier at sites but regular grocery store stuff so she her chefs to me gives us a chance to expand the cheater series from barbecue to other kinds of lewd other styles of cooking come in in in a way that kind of makes it possible for more people to get more cooking on their own which really has always been a goal for us well we ran out of time that time just flew by talking about something on food and i think that the right thanks audie of a largely on johnson and go through our own words in there and there's a band as a

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