A Word on Words; 2914; Carol Ann Rapp

no no ron johnson had gone once again welcome to word on words and welcome to carolyn rapp thank you great ahead ear you brought us down and seven walsh mclean a fabulous woman a lot of fabulous diamond and it's a fad with story in its no wonder that their un her great grandson of joseph gregory and decided to re issue her stunning mr murphy yeah it written during her lifetime this is the story of obama as much as it is walsh mclean with your grade is i wouldn't i would john and thank you for having me and evelyn story is not just the story of the hope diamond though she's a lot more than that about one of the most interesting sections of the work is her

story about how she thought the time it is and i think the story of how harry winston then bought after her death i mean the story of how two justices of the supreme court or in her bedroom ms the year when she dies and taken into custody is a is a when you have an epilogue to her story so to complete the cycle over life and it puts the obama and where it is today in the smithsonian where some eight million people a year greek every year go go see it less of indian with them with seven r i l n was born her father was a it was an avon county to tipperary ken listed as right from climb now that's trump on that and came to this country and and carried bill as evelyn says i'm not in the book her mother out of stunning figure and obviously caucus irish lads are and

you knew you wanted to marry or from the minute these are airstrikes and i'm struck by a un i'm struck by her candor in the boat sometimes i think she's less than candid but more often than it very good degree about her her a ringing and i gather throughout life she was willing to sales or follow was that the that they have not always been part of high society in washington dc our new forth are in palm beach i mean they came from lung she was born of olives and go but the third it was later that ebola daughter he received but i have struck it rich write that occurred when he had discovered the camper of mine which is nearer and you're a colorado and has the largest gold mining colorado cece to operate in the nineteen nineties and is being reclaimed that he was killed when he discovered and he was afraid that he might not

live anyone to ensure that the family would know we're at a mine was evelyn had been up in the mountains with him her mother at the time that he discovered that comets called was there a pre timed with away treating turned around chair at its self your springs outside can sit ins her and sometime called his daughter into his bedroom where he lay l and said daughter you can't tell anyone this but i've struck it rich struck it rich and he had really struck it rich has really struck a british egos also to those the moment when she realized how rich was when she was told the line was producing five thousand dollars today it's interesting you bring that up time justin gregory and i'm playing with calculators or less likely that very number of saying what would that mean in terms of how much money do they actually take out of them high in terms of dollars in the year two thousand and one enter our

calculations we estimated that they took out almost one quarter of one billion dollars so he was a very rich guy very end west village over for a moment is a phenomenal thing that here is her great grandson who decides that he's going to take her book and review it under a new cover get you to do an epilogue he doesn't and reduction ah and so and it's a wonderful story retold in her own words right he tells us in the adoption why but you tell our viewers why joseph wanted to do this joseph is a young man who is not only bright he's a visionary and he has been on a journey himself finding himself finding his family and his grandmother has in his great grandmother has inspired him to live

life to its fullest and the very best way that he can when his son and part of that discovery is also discovering a new fragrance which yes is now on the market and issued almost simultaneously with with with the reissue of the book i'm fascinated by it ellen movie in our childhood and an irish kirsch or i thought an irish person i may i i was raised them in a family that was heavily irish and the curse <unk> was one and never understood but it was all out in her about bob allen an artist first pulled over by a woman she'd bought the diamond years and years later knowing from party a solo tour

that there was a poetry curse on the diamond i thought it was interesting how that the theme of a curse ran almost throughout the book and at times you know her bed fortune and she had the great fortune of being haven't fallen sharply rich but her bad fortune almost seems as if the curse on here but you know believed she as she said a korean that literally would look away right and i think that the question of a curse in the book it's just not really does not just revolve around the diamond or the irish curse that was placed on her and her child in fact one of the key questions for me in working without one is what really is the curse in her life if there is one and i concluded that the curse was not so much the dine or her irish legacy there was actual lee learning to

be an adult and how to deal with vast amounts of money yet as she says in the end money with art devil that it was not a nice thought it was not my fault this man says again in there somewhere you know it's my brother and i had been born in all circumstances norton ordinary services on issues of the word ordinary circumstances we would have been treated differently than we were treated when we came to washington and had money but they did have money i'm struggling before we get to the money and then the cursor the blessing of money well let's talk about some of the tragic events in her life a man getting thrown out about first rule of stuff that you sort of enjoyed right but that story she tells about the accident that

took her brother's life when he was so young right now i'm at that point she must of thought well that irish christmas must be only wrong but she was impulsive you say shoot going up was was it was part of what it meant to have a persona and then she had a she had a tough time growing up and she had she did have a tragedy in her life she offers a travesty in her life on the small tragedies began early on art there's one incident in the book where she goes her grade school age brother into scaling a fence into a neighbor's yard where he's attacked by dogs and on her father goes out with his gun and i she never saw the donkey and she's not quite sure whether a father shot the dog however she never sees the dock on the incident

where eddie and with her brother we're he is driving home from a country club in camden it gets newport in newport and they're on their way home they're both kate loaded drunk and the chauffeur is riding on the front bumper and suddenly they go off a bridge the real tragedy there besides vincent's death of her brother vincent's death is that her leg is horribly crushed in the accident and when she finally gets out of the cast of his several inches shorter and this would be a right for right length three to four inches shorter than the left and it is very weak and the conversations begin to occur about we're going to have to remove the like and john are mcclain who would later become her father in law and you as publisher of the washington post videos is

exactly he brings a doctor round from johns hopkins who operates on her in her very own bathroom and inserts a sterling silver you like to have a home wyden said they'd are still you know climates avenue is a massive residents and in that bathroom was when the operation took place and as i recall when she wrote he answers do you share that was actually selling silver sterling silver shaft that's right so that throughout the rest of her life she was able to walk on their blank even though she had tapped lift built into or shoo in to rate because i was always an inch to happen it shorter than the other like on another tragedy she married wrong guy i think that you made and then

ned was a wizard of homeland an early on drinking problem early on fire and reasonably is a religious creed but she knew then and then she had her own bout with drugs after of every operation the main shrine around the morphine was a was a sweet sauce to or your pain and so there was another tragedy for five families for ten families in our own life let's move to the diamond itself he's rich man car to know she's rich right and he has this loose know and he brings a tour of where the hotel bristol in paris's the syringe the famous jeweler and ugly as a sealed package and shows a truly a water whitaker's on it

and he sewed recites what happened the people who owned this blue diamond you brought a replica year maybe we can get that replica on camera is this is the only known replica at the hope diamond with its necklace dr replicate is the exact size weight setting color as the hope diamond itself it's a stunning robert going and having been in the smithsonian where it now where the real town now is i can tell you that it is there that is stunning and evan first the smithsonian whatever it might have done but the thing that's interesting to me is that recently the curator at smithsonian gardens told us that approximately eight million people a year see the hope diamond and this makes it the most viewed museum exhibit in the world part of the part of the book includes a photo album

and some of those photos are from joseph's prep book was a collection of the family collection so that maybe we could live the audience share a view of how ellen war the diamond buried is around her attractiveness and ensured the inner ear hair and with a hit man and we also have a quote there's the rio item that's now replica but it's it's a gun than it is difficult to describe in terms of four shade of blue is howland struggled with valerie it near the end of her autobiography she says she has her own little secret about the blue diamond and she simply calls it blue and she struggled all her life try to describe was it which would quit school paul was apparently caught what lewis and it's its own blue but it only gets over those of you just tuning in

i'm uncoordinated carolyn rap about the book queen of diamonds evelyn walsh mclean and in so it's it's a wonderful it's a wonderful experience for me not to read first of all as a former journalist ideas or dramas like bit like a priest want to freeze north korea's but to bump into washington post in and so in it in another in another incarnation when it was known before and katharine graham family right and then to realize that that ellen's son and they worked on society in car fifteen dollars a week preparing to take over the operation of that newspaper to realize how often only wealthy and she was as a seven out of twenty twenty massenet houses everywhere in portland but is she really she really was blessed with wealth but kirstin real sense

buy it let's talk for a minute about time about how she became involved in the lindbergh kidnapping and she went through a period where she wrote news got a newspaper column or social psychology which was an extremely popular yes cancer called my say and featured a portrait of evelyn came in and she addressed everything from tips to raising your children to criticism of supreme court justices well that's exactly right and that an entity by ailes and politics says she liked the shia but but but to the lindbergh case pro life she seemed to be wrong like a magnet to trouble narrow drawn like a magnet to the troubled the

teapot dome scandal rider which he paid nearly into which she paid a nearly but then talk about bloomberg is proposing to me that there's a fascinating aspect of her story bubbling her case is just one clear cut example of how evelyn like to try to help other people having had kidnap and death threats out and sent to herding issued against her and her children evelyn who knew colonel and mrs lambert was very sympathetic to their situation she knew a gentleman who had once been an agent of the bureau of investigation which was a predecessor of the fbi this gentleman's name was gaston means guessing means was a disreputable con artist her fellow who'd been convicted other felonies serve time in been released he'd hung out with her husband and various other associates from the harding administration so

prevalent knew him as a detective and she contacted means thinking he might be the sort of man who could contact the kidnappers through his underworld connection it's unfortunately when she opened the door you know when you pick up one end of the stick the other end of the stick comes right up with it and when she picked up gaston means as a detective on the limber case the other end of the stick the con artist came right up with it and he told that way yes he will knew how to get to the kidnappers or where the lady wanted where the baby was that he needed a hundred thousand dollars in ransom money and thirty five thousand dollars in expenses and here's a woman who played on an eighty thousand dollars were little mom and she praises hustler and thirty thousand bucks simply because she thought she was going to get that baby back and they keep in mind when your father has taken a quarter of a

billion dollars out of the gold mine hundred thousand dollars is basically chomp checking that's right well and she was a chump her husband then and this sort of loose relationship with means the house would you any up a lot of good news i guess the names was the worst cook in my whole history of the fbi not just a london not al capone number of autumn gessen me yes the names and the amazing thing is this that hoover basically said that on his deathbed and you know like you're entertaining he'd been to the house there are twenty twenty master's over a labyrinth parties you also mention that mandela ran around with warren g harding when he was a senator from from ally and they had a good relationship they're going to question that led in and to ultimately the trouble

it lying about whether he had londono thousand dollars through all the while officials illustration who was who was embarrassed as she was buying by the teapot dome scandal so so she was in the news not only as a columnist but also she was a moved quite frequently because the trouble with that attracted her own health yet finally turns out the total destroyed loses his mind has an incarcerated he was institutionalized as and in it you come in and earlier at that she married the wrong man i'm more philosophical about the relationship between ned and evelyn than that i think they were joined at the hip that they were actually made to be with all three trials and tribulations they were dosed tribulations and trials were experiences that net in elko and needed to

have that they were warning from each other and growing as people from each other they didn't always do the right thing or the smart thing or you know even the best thing that they lived life to the best of their abilities and yet they had their flaws ned was a drinker and a womanizer a gambler he like to live life in the fast lane he was basically the same boy who at forty as the young teenager who races automobile against of one's brother in this instance and then a wide net almost the final purse is on the death of her daughter i don't think there is yes and that she marries jazz solana the united states senate right rob rifle and the senator grows at one point was mentioned as possible can present says you for now

that's correct he didn't run no mary jo you know it's a relative prado and carla not acknowledge that that natural state but it does seem to me that the age much must have made a difference then she took her own life after an argument with listen there's been separation or when they married she was twenty four is nineteen and that she would be argued ninety eight she was nineteen and senator reynolds was fifty seven she died at twenty four years old and one job by correct and of course because the time joseph came to the families united that their child was justice mother and so she went into she went into the bedroom bachelder and died of an

overdose of drugs and alcohol correct she turned on the literal a locked herself in with the out little dog and i presume that she was stringing because there was alcohol in your system and when she was found hours later by butler who broke down the door call the doctor doctor filled out the death certificate so that it says death by an overdose of drugs and alcohol i one who is accustomed to use them no suicide note was ever found so we you know we can't say that it was suicide that is certainly could've been in although certainly could've been an accent only hours after right there's terrible argument with her husband and because alan does liver long after that no i think of mozart was broken that i mean it just brings tears to my eyes to even think about it because i have a daughter and this is her only daughter and she was not well at the

time of tvs death and i personally in my opinion is that you never really recovered from that illness when she does just as murphy and justice just over one are in the bedroom and there is the obama and then there is the story and there is no jury yes man you know what i'm going to do with this and what they have to do with that is there are two separate stories about which one you believe you believe you believe the two judges took it and see i have a problem believing in one or the other and that's why i told both frank murphy i at the time was a supreme court justice thurman arnold was on the pill or you and they both were executors of her state and would both be in a position to tell the story that they told different is so you're going to buy and sell back of a taxi and i went there to carry the elders as violet you were

visited try to get into a bank and dr lozano get into a bank and a note to a bank and ended up calling up a j edgar hoover and nineteen and to bring me a shoe box with all the jury in it to the fbi where it was kept in a safe and i'm in hoover's office until the executors of the wheel could come call for an order will now a wonderland of harry winston who plays against me and look for it and to even get to the smithsonian write a novel store you go hard and harry winston bought it in nineteen forty nine he used it to do good works and in nineteen fifty eight he decided to donate it to smithsonian to the american people on behalf of the american people and he simply put it in a box and senator the us mainland we did not have a word about the fragrance in toulouse created for just this created this

marvelous semi oriental fragrance is based on the hope diamond units available here locally at their it's called a bowl and the elements of the fragrance self include everyone's wall that caught everyone's favorite dessert crime for lighthearted smells wonderful well i'm in boston today with carolyn rap about book queen of diamonds a lot like carolyn thank you so much for being here having thank all of you for tuning in to work on words and johnson no one more time he pretty no no