A Word on Words; 3036; Ralph Emery

you know i mean so you know once again welcome to word on words it's my good fortune in your is that once more this week we have royal family back to talk about fifty years that a country road welcome mr john barry remarked my daddy and endures week we covered last year the last week we saw the setting the stage about how the music of the forties so far exploded suddenly and fifties produced all those great talents so we talk about hank williams and that's a further word of our hotel pleased as well as sort of key to long and here's dave ut operated one and we first met in the fifties and that that actually turns the month of june nineteen forty nine

what people dr bruno they did not want to shine a reputation abroad but his record risotto should move already is water and his record for a show and i think they were fearful for one of which are so wary of running man says and he appeared on the nine thirty show i know this because the gulf arab want to march toward a program from that night he won nine thirty he was like before for a fact all of them in nigeria portion ernest tubb record history the shadow of certain words to search on since it goes as you say so alone as ryan no dickens you our interview did your religion of workers from each of them are showing like that have upsets and so that's how we sort of get in the head and he made that a monumental debut at the grand ole opry and invalidated

here's his stardom that night you know reading this book and only revisit old friends or friends who in the old eighties made news in ways they'll make new not like we talked last week about how of country music a full frontal by upscale that show for a long time and you know its true and when you read about hank most off on an iffy smoke in bed no tone set on farms which chaplin once or you read about the enola maybe any negative thing that happened to a red foley away it appears that big new later that same thing happening george oh absolutely george and tammy sell for an advance angels play george gershwin on the sidewalk or actually got on television

right eye atop the assault the story about about any deal with willie nelson and very in a very i think a very touching way and i'm a very a funny way and remain the way but the story that i loved best a book about willie says the line from wayland jennings someone maybe you were interviewing women about the firm that that when he was in trouble the irish and you tell us read through or a morgue where we sort of can i say about william cohen says what the irs and well he doesn't care and then he he said he really doesn't scare you are auctioning off his belongings the well of the government came in and

determine that will yield them a lot of money to the point that they confiscate a really hadn't sold it will years has the good fortune to be so odd bauer director voyager well imagine that having things was not what willie was having things is not with news of what will is about his music his music and and all he loves to play you know i love to sing were doing the show top issues were generally is here to tell us on its end from onstage i was the emcee for a while and i went back in the wings and with william william advantages of a trial charley pride is gone and i said to willy prize and every other war with no one to get really brought a surprise order so interesting about three or four songs the record off the veto it

willie said well we've been drier and all night to get here and you will be out here or three well but eventually her way through you know you were last have said is that we've lost within jennings and then you said to me not long ago were living losing too many of them there are we are less you know even if you will if you look at this this book the wave arranger me you are as tom diehl says the historian of this culture this country music industry oh your book's really document a story is that people i had never heard our herder not sure are true and you clearly defined what's fact and what may be fiction in this in this book isn't the others but

this book is fascinating because it touches on i think the truly great lives decade by decade beginning at that moment i for one it was frowned on look down on end and then as the explosion took place in country music game music the country you document that can and you give us rich any building material about the lives of these of the stars can you take us through the life of hank as we did last week and through the life of cash and as a wonderful chapter alone on barbara landrieu well you mentioned johnny pride and there's one chapter sharper are you mentioned charlie parker charlie pride nsa survivor a security and then charlie pride i said john i don't and then charlie pride and i meant and that's after deals with three

stars three truly admirable people who all came great and i get swallowed that we design that chapter i got to thinking about what they have overcome and i thought great option the point they were they were superstars and urgent always tried to i came along as a black man in country music in nineteen sixty five and in america for blood matching contribution and the problem with charlie pride was he didn't sound like you know that day she had no word on its own way people would say well just orders or push through and forty villagers fled recipient would get in

big family after he'd grown up listening to a tough a common knowledge he was not a rather rhythm and blues center in the case of males that brought a wilson milsap did blinded me he overcame that image or i will start an amazing person who loves music and is very talented and many of the tragedy and his story is that he was at the north carolina school for blind and could partially state and one time when he was stolen before psalm one thing that he did is they are actually was not supposed to do have a fairly of the attendant who's going to hit him in the head it's schlafly and what that did not get it manicure

exploited too bloated it clearly knocked out the remaining site that he had he had several surgeries but the site was wrong and prior to that he could say see images it's a college but that was about it could and couldn't say your porch thought i was a neighbor strolls rules we should focus with very young would come to the audience so the audience and and he would ask someone with color tied to the un along with delicate code leone and then standing alone on the stage it's and so glad to see you tonight beautiful dialogue what a wonderful code on everybody you know i mean that you know i worked on the rover was won a one night i just don't i didn't yet he always uses huge antenna were always out he uses everything he can to find out what's going on and hand and carry on conversations he's

talking to your age were knoxville and he said his grandfather's in the audience and he said the druze ramp up what you come up on the stage were they going to get up on the stage the grandfather had to go all around the back and come up changed that show riding continues dad live after the grandfather started as route to the stage they're just as their grandfather hits the top step rises all their unions are all barriers and also how does he know so the first half he went with the show's original underground project after that he's an average about on the front row says law palatable and the third day of pride and no service in the thirties johnson out of the ocean fun loving well folks who took that he took is it a problem to a new level and he stutters

and it now all it's only bicycles are now asking the question that everyone i will ask you they don't understand how you sang and foul it without without stuttering an hour of light onto a stutter when you say people remember my talking i would much better and he didn't george w bush family and but i remember when he went out to do the glen campbell show and glen weldon manhattan on african just the first time she veers very worried that somehow people would think they'll tell us was making fun of people who stutter so they got a ucla speech therapist to come over and talk to go unexamined question mel tillis huge legitimately really does matter but david and they did that before they were put on the grand canal

but he had no harm he and his tactics and stammers and he does it right on cue and he gets a big laugh as accused of having total control that includes a wonderful comedy really an auditor can a long time to overcome here he had speech therapy he said he went up recorder rack at the university of florida couldn't call the signals so they couldn't play for some event like that those you just tuning in were talking with rob crilly again this week about his book fifty years down a country road and why fifty years later recruiters one more relatives who have to actually was in the air force and all the young recruits in the air force blue we went to beijing through metal actually there tomorrow to jerusalem and into our core portion of it

and one day they ask him those were wanted in march the company to chow hall it's so he's ok so he said i don't know and when he stood there are going up to the chow hall and he said i couldn't think about one word i think what word was ready to call for a fuller idea margin right image out well speaking of people to overcome well one of the myths about the music is a very tough on one and there is a lovely glow anecdote and they're among the many many rich telling you stories there's one in there about johnnie wright and jack our and kitty wells and it was johnny jack with the

world art and that change and id id id ed demonstrated for nearly all we talked about patsy cline last week the wells was the queen so doug by fred rose yeah yeah what you're talking about is jagger i was smart and i interviewed john extensively by hank williams and johnny joe and they said you know i know about hank williams and enable amount well what one can eat well show was will color of the girls center though she was married to john and what a man had a girl center and that's who she was she was the girl singer she almost an avenue deli which she got recorded by decca and it had this big it was and i heard from hank thompson that the characters would have honky tonk angels that was new and that was a hotbed for years and that was a result of song social and a lawyer i was

it was the answer record to wild side of life i found it became a big big record number one source of ours board now jenner i'd figured correctly that his wife was bigger now than the actor johnny and jack boleyn edna number his airboat her potential to become a very established major before it was very strong and he decided to change it from a johnny jack show featuring kitty wells to the kitty wells show featuring johnny jack and he mentioned that today and roy show no no no no way a woman should have star billing but i respected judge and he was right he had the he was married to the queen of country music and socially the wreckage at kmart following her initial hit you know i mentioned the last week les you candidly dealt with not just the

greatness of these performers they're there to do they're marvelous job also with a dark side i guess there is no one about that is more true than johnny cash to johnny cash candidly talks to you about the pro growth in his life is the first time i'd ever read of that he used the word knowing and in describing what it was and then you said something true about johnny and here is this great star captivated audiences had that wonderful television show and use i told you know what's it feel like and he says which only points again to the fact that your great interviewer he uses that word annoying and said

sometimes just from a while sometimes one of the heel shoe showed that there was never a day when he didn't think about it and when i would overcome him he would call for an unusual is lula to just talk for awhile telephone until that feeling feeling past and knows any of it was a year is there was a big problem for johnny cash with johnny cash is i think he is the biggest star we've never created for fifty years over all those years i think he was that they didn't sell him a record just north but he was a star for much longer period time have such a great impact with his television show his charisma was unbelievable even go into almost any country around the world and i didn't get money and they knew johnny cash they may not know anything else about nashville with a new johnny cash live here and

there is so many adventures with johnny cash made an impact on the country i would serve this at fearful of johnny cash worked with him and his british roots we're on a half years on a village in a traditional anywhere to shut out for what we generally followed under forty people would rather respond he was unbelievable it was like a king the president early onset of people you've been expecting when he was not about i just looked up the song all kinds of people and actual men with debris from education housewives and all kinds of you would stop and stare in a war commanded by pushing health than he was six foot four where he just adding johnny cash and our part and probably have more courage than anybody we've ever created well let's talk above the lead chapter one of a chapter on ballet and you know there was that came out under

grier is when she employing were together when i remember going once with jack stout reliable or silenced one afternoon when jack they were rehearsing for the kraft music that we're just come that dolly and poor was living end but there were this was going to be the last time or in that show together on i remember people around her saying no to bed without borders she's nothing welcoming you know you're letting that that happened that laughable i'm laughing because they did not punish and daughter and drive she have often shared that there are three women dolly parton barbara mandrell religion or more driving of iran an hour so i would hate to be on the opposite side of an issue presided be yeah they made

in i guess they weren't ready to do with ferocious russian term draws to become a big star it's and porter do a lot for her and she admits that year but she was remembered with a battle over creative differences then after awhile you know after a while and it was created a ward fell out from under the farmer who are reviving that some ideas are now stuck when you get you know they get ideas of bell and so joy joy her and she wanted to take her music to do to a different water below the show developer should resign which you did she prove the judicial pop do that or about that their shoes years he's a traitor a dolly varden proven to everyone initiative

hispanic college in the shooter stan cowley he writes are a lot gets lost because of books ok you hear about a partner i should get big boat and as a joke usually do that but what gets lost is her singing ability her talent to write a song her ability to entertain people in the wonderful saenger theater she didn't use the total practical and can laugh at herself yet as well as with others you know you mentioned the barman gurley macintyre of valiant and the fear for our viewers again there is no wonderful stories about all of great capital of them i i love fresh off oahu rare pictures may have never seen another insight and and then in the back of the book ralph you give us your analysis and

nobody can you know better analysis the emergence of stars during the decades of these fifty years and had a lot of thought went into that i know about why you did that i tried to make a charge in the back and i had been to in anchorage of five years fifteen a fifth of fifty four he and fifty five to fifty nine and that shifted shape of the tooth out his mistake at the beginning trying to free of trying to sit through a determined who have the greatest impact and i called an impact chart and i said at the beginning a call for a blister you know for one years record producer richard lugar we would encourage artists and mission artwork they probably are so more attention and they worry about the pilot with three characters male female group and i

loved it and promote or five year it charged are tempted to sort out the top ten in each category for fifty years and i think johnny cash dolly parton and alibaba group and having the greatest impact and a lot of it is based on longevity of how long they were stars and how long way they were relevant how long they had an impact well it is a way to is it's a wonderful way to close the book because it it really provides a book in foreign ministry that that has meant so much to the country now and then and garden and then the child both there in those final chapters know people say well the road washes off the country music rooms

manned and everybody says well it's this is los silva says sharon an end there is its lost its vitality you know continues a given up and down as it's great bridges that would also other forms of music met a couple minutes left talk to me about where this industry's going where is the music of the people going next well i'm from a french horn it's been the corporate decisions i really really in the world or five major record companies are they're using the huge corporations their multimedia corporations and you guys make a major national art of sort of as a blunt will probably reckons i guess i feel like that they're making too many schaffer right safe meaning that i can go on if i cut this person sing that song

because that's kind of what's happening but they they don't plan any new creative ground and i think you know i think that's an abomination and i probably feel like if they tried to be creative and whatever the idea was surreal they would lose their jobs because we now have recovered bottom line culture and the more people i suppose dominated by the stock market and how low score for shares of selling and i think that has now filtered down to have an impact on the music industry and what about you i don't know the war israel that set in the future when he wanted to be chancellor in a lot of our water lt where arthur that album is live rationally known now approaching five million and shales and it's causing a lot of tables set what about bluegrass what about some traditional cultures a grid cells with the

radio play because they're also play play it safe well we run out of time or think you can relate to travel one quote one quote you know do you like that can fly right now what it did it with a quote that i ran across during my research here is they bounce that music is one of the few pleasures in life that is legal nontaxable low in calories and can be enjoyed by fb