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low just before christmas to a garment printing office tower an important presidential report on rural poverty was released before the president intended it to be the result was a report entitled the people left behind received little public notice a presidential commission had been appointed to make a study two years ago as the realization at the condition of the whirlpool was evident as desperate as it was for the pool of the urban ghettos more than forty percent of the nation's poor live not in cities but in rural areas of the poor families in these areas one family in every four one last load exists on less than one thousand dollars a year what plays out that eight hundred thousand new adults out of work and millions more i employ only part of the time the unemployment rate for the nation as a whole is four percent for the rural areas is nearly five times as high to try to escape

through polity five million poor people migrated to the cities in ten years but this the what when saad does not solve the problem some months ago the us decided to look into poverty so producer greg jackson cameramen the pearson i spent part of this summer and fall in a small community in mississippi talking with the people left behind three major candidates seem to feel that the living flying thick don't understand why god belong to that lightly so much about it out to understand how can he become throwing something that wasn't here is that from the beginning i don't know

he didn't come at they'll end of what it would love that they call the feeling that the rich now they all share fifth if they say they'll keep a force that somehow be the same bang out of me and went and watched that and who were also abandoned there was enormous seen with any growth way into the land in the leaves are and they couldn't they cut an oreo leaves so

you know they work for nothing and richman white male yet and i owe our favor of a right knee in the terrible remake of the south seas michelle's these if we can go out and play these people too volatile hundred or to not have a quarry to figure out what you can carry and nobody can get some wanted to help them along i don't say this was enough or anything of that sort but for everything that they picked two dollars or three dollars a hundred active have done the same thing with this machine and

unpaid for now because last monday and a number of us knew and percentages are for instance i'll say that just this year my workforce was reduced about fifty percent and yet i was able to handle it operational much easier than i had in the past but primarily because of the use of these chemicals that we use and we can grow this has been the real breakthrough and the farmer and an unemotional all this homework is the chemicals of kabul they're effective chemical isn't lemonade so much hand weeding and the temperature we have a long time as i say we have been able to harvest the crop mechanically for years witherow elimination of these people the farms has come about about the labor law wage law which forced the price of wages up and i don't argue the fact that this was and that they should have this money there still an economic

fact that i've got to make a problem as well have two machines and so forth what a thousand dollars apiece and there are four sets out that'll appear to time we still have to make a profit that's just the natural playing han solo like any other businessman i think when the tampa we tried to eliminate as many large benches as we have been drawn to increase their profit margins in a single day market segments twenty thousand dollars she meets can do more work than a hundred men and every major cotton grower here in the mississippi delta has the machine it's been to pay but even the machinery of little more than a symbol for the end of the plantation system as a way of life in the south

throughout the delta this year more than fifty thousand negroes had no work and the system was their labor once created but over which they have no control of them with no skills and no place else to go post remained in shacks on the foreign languages and clarkston people build a town with little industry negroes in the county outnumber the whites three to one plantation owners in the area bush by demands of competition and the moral obligation of thousands of hand wavers to have worked on that land for generations and they've mullins is a third generation cotton grower that can fall on the fall in iran's state is lucky dog we are it looks like we won't be able to contain and operate oh and operate with live

people and course being selfish almost like an internal bone dissolves know a lot oh yes we concerned about these people but we concerned mostly about know more on why mommy worked at the farm and a cow to continue to put it on the market it is completely machine no pay you alone tread about where that revenue neutral to donate yourself and our credibility to work badly and it's possible talk course mom wages huge effect of will rule but i haven't been i mean you know maybe people in general a family with him were the amoral were introduced today and it's so it's inefficient it snow on on operator

it's hard on will at its heart on the only employ area nearly all wind up our average time partner with the people and we'll have more with me and that i find most people all jumbled court more than all but you may use some cammack some tangible coma me into it yolo a reporter for pbr spoke to mrs helen jefferson was twelve children and has lived on plantations all her life yeah yeah no thing that i love anything to me you know it made you got to get out and wait there to college and fifty how much money for that guy make if we could you know we've been given a

crap they've been fall he'll be big deal even let it but basically traffic is being honest they covered in a mature and white and all that it might be he only he were here they were like every day students at the hearing it only to look up the way they do in a debate we get you like on the rise due to capitol hill they never planned to do you know no this is the moment and looking for the us to keep on between eighteen years in the us

eighteen one name is that many homeowners owing money alone has catalogued and in one thing and you think it's going to change at the ad actually am hoping it and what you think it's going to maybe it'd be so we now believe is going to change they need it before we can what they did they get a chance to what fun you know what quentin like in make his own money he's been enacting one came in and you know you're going to have respect for work that only way you can get into english and i'm waiting that think of the idea of the meaning and that made that look like interview unlike only have been waiting

you nailed it i won an uptick though put all get on the good bacteria that don't look like what we do know about it and if i hadn't learned about being vetted at the mall you what do they hear that and that they can then in a name like an empty handed amir family baghdad on putting your cruel puppet you did though make it just don't make it through having worked on a life or not having any money doesn't make you know a movement in she'll be here a month now waking do you do it you know i have a bad show

you see it's not all of the mechanization of a farmer and that has taken a tremendous amount of the workforce away the legislation which takes the opposite the common land out of production the same about that he got the reason caught on the land last year and when he takes the opposite of the labour about to really reduce that it was innovative flow the days last evening as much money from this way as he would've gotten a planet isn't easy we've got which one for the rich digital is where they'll and much more money where they get much more money in terms all federal law treasury payment that is allocated totally and they have the possible aaron henry a druggist in clarksville as the leader of the negroes and the county the state president of the unknowable a cpm with direct connections

to washington is also one of the most influential negroes in the state i think that the main crisis here though is that the i'm employed and the dispossessed and appalachian area was wet and i don't think that america will pour in the same light that it has ceded white and when it's why poor became evident there's lots of appalachian we're going to do something dramatic about not think that the savings are going up in the cell phone cases people play a white van pulls fans know that the airplane with her at a theologian who say they are all out of

school because you thought whoa this is bobby simmons were for the anti poverty program in clarkston she brings plantation workers information about federal programs food stamps and start rebuilding dictation it goes well well no it is

it is well you do it but in way it's made the cows they have been getting use the track to howl from downloads with death and fall when he is the front man of ohio colorado federal food stamp office means the difference between hunger and

food for thousands in clarksville and the rest of the delta depending upon income or family of ten for example can buy seventy two dollars worth of stamps with twenty dollars catch some even their prices too high this summer an emergency poverty program when three thousand destitute families money to buy stamp the pilot federal project had sixty four thousand dollars to lend the money lasted three months when it ran out hundreds were turned away now clayson donated not handed in atlantic coast they say they wanted to cut now would machina just on stan o'neal does this little place that honors then the girls that he was named villain and plays on them won't be very many chicks really over gombe to amnesty likely go set

your trap he would capture it a little bit of pleasure for that day job and that's really helped the health law the fly when they get to them places there's an angry giving than we thought they had stored classroom in corkscrew thousand our ad the honey

deputy director of the communities you have to give him a chance today an awakened heart of people who had somehow surrendered and resigned in sales to a

holiday we're living it in a righteous way lilith a hole was being not being poor in a lie that's that does not have always lived with my whole all one big happy adult education program of course the second chance that a very good means outlook is optimistic in an official spokesman for the anti poverty programs admit that with the money available they are able to reach only about twenty percent of the pool anti poverty program in clarksville originally had a twenty eight member board but half the members all white conservatives quit they complain that too much money was being spent and the washington was trying to make their county of government show plays are still received about two million dollars last year for antipoverty programs throughout the county twenty seven farming units in the same county received two million dollars from the government for not i mean there were

no complaints from the white conservative about farm subsidy the most dedicated white man on the present antipoverty borders andrew card after the white conservatives quick he rounded up other white members to serve on the board continue in the south one of the greatest benefits of the program is that it gets whites and negroes working and talking together carr is a wealthy fifth generation mississippi plantation owner his ancestors ran the operation the slaves today he serves as the unpaid chairman of the board well i have how the very truthful on that i was i suppose maybe have a reputation of being rather pale but the hours less by the new initiative mr white

and i agreed to serve to keep peace and harmony in the community i did not have the commitment that i presently have been saying that justice was achieved for our citizens that have no when i get into the problem and really that became involved in found that that no more injustice is the one that i thought that were then i became very committed to the cause and identify more with an egg roll the monday with the wind before before us all in every day i didn't notice them all i made my i made myself not notice them because it had been the way it had been the system in a way like that i'd been brought up with i know i had expected this but i always have the bottom of mine that this was not right i always feel guilty when i was one

i live so well in their lives quality about it and they're mostly out i am in an economic situation where i cannot be pressured or intimidated and i am i have read several books that i won by five smith the former congressman from out monday is trickier so stated that anybody has to take the lead in improving the situation that it must be the white plantation owner because he is the only independent economically independent individual in the community the rest of the people out strolling along trying them i believe in the whites here don't have much apathy and emotional and all buy there's not that much of it has not been much income that we have of their poor economic the assessor is now a change and progress so these people and these are very precarious jobs or are situations the old small businesses clothing stores anything else in town on willing to step out and make themselves unpopular

as i may have made myself unpopular but i think the colleges much weight of unpopularity the most powerful members of the white community and not encourage industry to come to the delta one thing the industry would drive up wages why conservatives and the best solution is for the unemployed negro to leave the sop chief spokesman for the conservatives is a lawyer and clark stalemate sam's luck is the most influential man in the county chairman of the city county planning commission legal advisor to the segregated city school system and secretary of the democratic election commission i don't think they're using the true future fundamentalist and paula white but for persons in the community or the white people in this community unless and until we change the racial ratio it we had to have and that was this community rep mr jawad the

load up on land would benefit immensely and the plate please you would have which would call a label market you an absolute of people competing for the same jobs you wouldn't have such a drain the only way they'll grow only public facilities presented by this was notable all people who are not making a substantial contribution to the news and the tax structure the financial place it has to be raised in albany these requirements of everyday living we did the lights would be a bottle and then we've got just a bit and that was moldy evenly throughout the country i do not think that these cities can survive and they say no do i think that the south can survive if we continue along with racial that we have that if a young adult more with commonwealth is a little mud buys

alitalia to leave mississippi and the goal was something out of about fifty thousand population growth without like that oman where they industry they have their humans if he would consent into a good job he would have a good life and he would not be subjected to this olive oil environment that the taliban has developed in these ghettos of the law now remember like man has done research that he has explained it didn't know when it was convenient to do so in terms all not paying anything for his work and his rather than it was a commodity that you could use in this way he was very much in favor of the navy will remain here and when years ago when the most talked about going to chicago because look like a giveaway got like that digital would have not done this you know they were leaving this all up leaving mississippi where little

income pretty well now that yesterday the minimum wage now that the needle is becoming somewhat they pile in the political support to miss out on now that he is becoming a man thinks they're probably start to the white man wanted the white he wants to be really only wants him and he doesn't really really doesn't want to just you feel that the use of the atlantic called them feel really defeated by trade and then i would have called them and then he moved on and so you know wanting to bring back a picture that house is a truck traffic at playing down any have come to wonder how bad planning to get out and get it out there where you're at that moment that that

what a lot of people they don't move this summit when the barn is you know what i mean a young main it won the one honestly when the bond plays only in some comments on monday i know you know some bad that american in my field say they get it became hugely one really given an opportunity this is the mississippi ole miss a significant and no mass are live at coyote if anyone comment ever met merle baby and making me

that out of one arm a unity it will be won the summer games via wow we can you know be allowed to tell him i watched them yeah when bank don't know that you know abbi in the already done that oh yeah he can't get a favorable we actually do plan that begins at bethel but this this playful best of comedians when you have been in place all you baby does that mean they've just gone they named fifth don't get me away our economic growth a woman in mississippi talk of houses being moved over people in chicago of maybe having to leave this winter dozens of families on plantations in the clarksville area are being evicted

federal funds for local anti poverty programs in the area have been cut by twenty eight percent many programs have been discontinue our children without shoes and quote there is hunger and for some starvation the paternal system which once carried them through the winter on the edge of survival is gone the plantation system as did a new who will have to come from somewhere oh for you to have this phillips benton always in your power at a studio screening set up by bb allen will we will former governor

edward deep breath of kentucky watched this report with national editor john wick line governor your commission has been studying rural poverty for more than a year what would you advise the president to say to the woman i mean as the president said that moment because of his concern and his record night in the knee that she need help and i'm fourteen at and other americans enroll america need help he appointed a commission on rural poverty in their state in this whole problem for year and a major report this report which has now been filed with pain and with the members of his cabinet are concerned with the problems and they're coming up with their employer and fourteen other millions of americans believe that if you have a sense of priorities on the recommendations in the report what would they be first of all we've got mae romer as a trak for our citizens as on the states so that they will want to remain in romer secondly they've got to have

a job so they can make a living educated feed their families and housed there their children will and this is important by saying that industry forced the only option for certain incentives they're given industry to that the price jobs and warmer and if they cannot do so if they cannot meet the needs and where they can that the federal government guarantee a job ever since is the breadwinner in her over how would you avoid the cliched criticism of the thirties at these are leaf raking schemes are what kind of jobs would you provide for those people won't take an imaginative programming and supervision to say that they're their sound of the work jobs and the failed recreation there many jobs in rural america and much of rural america land itself the recreation for the filling the rapidly expanding population and in that urban areas in this nation secondly of public works projects in the natural resource development of the planning of strip land

areas the reclamation district land areas where in those areas of our country were surface mining is a problem of the public works that out of my apartment or at an important value to the area and to its feet the report says it would take millions every year to bring rural poor above the poverty level how can this be done in the present political climate well it simply is a matter that we in this country must recognize that is a nice thomas gray still out fourteen million of our people to live in rome or below the poverty level and as a result we must make our people were in this country and if they are aware of the concern and it will reflect in the support of the congress of the arms were frozen and his cabinet members were coming to think that president johnson is ready to take on such a fight in an election year i get the

variety of the people around the president has already lived beyond the willingness of the people who are in and supporting this is evan said but they actualize times we did not give an adequate amount of money to the party will present our problem although recessions are demonstrations cities program many many problems that have been available recommended to the president to the condors were cut down and tired and drained now the president when he is leading is advocating he appointed commission that polish or but it's up to us as citizens of this country to accept the challenge and support the road to think that the country is not behind the poverty program because the white majority thinks that it mainly affects the negro rather than other whites and like one of the real problems within the party area now a port or at a show this is that it's not just for negro in enrollment of its effect actually three fourths of the people who work in

warmer all right our citizens in oregon south shore of possessions end up with fourteen million americans knew they were going to bed hungry or going to bed with their call because this one and they did not have an adequate ways to live and going to bed without adequate these people in this country they've got to be taken care of and it's so large percentage of the people and the great majority are not made i gather from the report that you can sue the war on rural poverty and the war on urban poverty to be the same war but that and not enough emphasis has been placed on the rural poverty wars that correct i feel this way and and certainly this is born out of the fact that various percentage of the money thats proliferated the warm party has been spent in urban america and that is understandable because the problem had been dramatically presented to the people of this country are the news media and in the onset is they've seen just at urban

core of an ordinance that have sparked urban coalition recognized him from that awful loving watching an interstate kept a result of this the problems and benders than america benefit these it and this is in the paul sargent shriver or the congress or the president because this was the problem that the public and the congress would support but we have found in this study that we cannot solve the problem our cities unless we saw the problems in rural america go to work will continue the pall era conway are countless millions of rural america were trying to escape poverty in rural america but going to the city's illiquid ill prepared without an adequate education and when i get home they have been unable to break out of the accountants chicago or our ghettos many of them and they remain a continuing problem in in the senate and unless we can solve this problem and roll over and and prevent this tremendous shift of

population trying to save financial state somehow going on and greatly complicate from cities now in washington it would be morgan talks with sargent shriver head of the war on poverty shriver there's an implication and what governor bragged that just said that you have concentrated on the city ghettos and neglected the rural poor have you no i don't think we actually have the truth is that the big cities and england small size cities were able to respond quicker the program which we propose as a result of this proportion amount of money has been spent on the record set in urban areas the tragedy is that when the rural areas became ready to move ahead just at that moment we didn't have the money to finance another report does say you

in effect rural poverty and urban poverty are two sides of the same point would you agree that that's true yes i do i believe that we're in an urban area and then our nation has an obligation to deal with that personally human being who was poor regardless of whether torture will if we can invent better ways to pick cotton why can't we invent better ways to put people out of poverty than we have there's no reason in the world and i think we have invented a number of extremely effective way for kicking people out of poverty the problem is the judge whom we invented the method we didn't have the money to buy the paper for example in the movie you saw somebody say that when those cotton pickers costly to twenty five thousand dollars for one picture well it cost us twice a six thousand dollars in the job corps to get one person out of poverty or twenty five hundred dollars in upward bound to kick the person out of poverty and just at the moment when we when we have proven that we can come out of poverty that way

we don't have the money to people who forces i think it's the fault of all of this your fault my fault or the fault of the young people as a whole who haven't responded really to the extent that we should to the problem of poverty to the reality of the ice dome the people who claim there isn't any party lines that's what you feel i tell him that they are to get out of where they are and go look and see for themselves i've seen people who would say that and they were ten minutes away from a very very gentle on the city or from a very bad situation involving migratory labor for example and they just never been there what do you expect on the basis of this report on rural poverty though you may be able to do in the war on poverty view are you intending to make legislative recommendations are you going to ask the president to move more in the executive field on the bases of these recommendations i don't think that we need a great deal of additional legislation to do

most of the things that are proposed in there and let me say that i agree with what governor branstad said in this broadcast immediate preceding us i agree with practically everything he said what we need in order to do what he recommends is money we don't need a way of additional legislation but not greatly well some people are saying that one of the reasons that you're not getting the money that you need is that we're spending at twenty three billion plus a year on vietnam one of the vietnamese war ended tomorrow would that a bit what would what would that do for you i can you would call one the quite dramatic climactic third incident an american history because it would pull the rug out from under those people who have been voting against the war on poverty or to limit the war on poverty just a final vote by saying which of the day namely that we can afford the war in vietnam at that moment they win they'll have to make that difficult important choice because they couldn't any longer say

we can't afford it because we can't afford all we have to do is take what's a half of the money who haven't spent in vietnam and put it into an evolving program depaul art you saying that even if the war stop when the war stopped there will be other money available but it won't i'm going to talk i'm not saying that i'm hoping that that will not happen i think that at that moment america's going to have a great point around other way we're going to have a great insight into our own nation well we at that moment had the courage and will the motivation for the money to the elimination of poverty and let me just say that if we devote that kind of money to it that's a hamper what were putting into vietnam we can eliminate poverty in this nation poverty defined in the terms and we had to find it in accordance with income food intake housing education so we eliminate the question is not whether we can question is will we do we have the willpower to do it we have the motivation to do

you said for half the money we're spending on the war that roughly do you mean that if we spend eleven billion dollars a year that we could eradicate poverty and give thirty million odd americans a better crack at an opportunity i think it's true actually real bind politically congress nearly cut you off of the pockets and sixty seven hour and sixty eight a presidential election year governmental expense and waste big issues where does that leave you with this year in a cousin of mine who are completely correct what you do to answer charges that your work is wasteful would you waste a lot of money well the answer is the fact the facts show that for example in terms of administration three percent forty one two three percent of our money has been spent on an inspiration at the national level we got one the littlest bureaucracies in washington or modify in the

country and we have only three thousand people working in the entire federal effort to combat poverty we spend in the poll worker palm tree upright we won and one quarter cents out of every dollar of taxes that you pay rip into the federal treasury debt by comparison we spend seventy five cents out of every dollar to finance this was going on now or past wars military warriors what i'm suggesting is that we spend maybe a nickel i've already got a financial war against poverty one of mayor daley in chicago called up the white house and said he'd like general shriver of the war on poverty to come out and take charge of chicago during next chalmers long hot days what would you do what i would be the first latina good because in kkr chicago very well ansel but if he wanted to do a better job himself in chicago or if you want

a new army to come help the only basis on which i would be intelligent the help would be if you had the ammunition might say the money to do the job for example about thirty five percent of all the children in america for children who should be in project head start that the project four five six seven year old to thirty five percent of them are in it now a hundred percent should be but it would then costs three times as much as it does now but that should be done upward bound is a program for high school students which really is motivating young jews to go to college and stay in college five percent of the eligible for kids are now an upward bound so up or down should be whenever that is nine times bigger than one is the day that the only thing that stopped up or down from being that they were the only thing that stops a headstart from reaching your children is money rich as for the ordinary person thinks in thinking

of poverty in terms of the negro and yet we heard governor brown say correctly that most of the poor in this country are why has the as your shop done itself a disservice by not emphasizing the fact that it's a war on poverty for everybody the poor i think so yes i think we have done ourselves except for the fact that we continually say over over again that sixty eight percent of all the poor people in america are white people when it doesn't get through either they hear is we're hearing it or the people who read it that it will more now likely mr shriver very much he haunts radio part two a trip to san francisco for social satire and humor by the committee one minute after this because for a station identification it is i'm wondering in san

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nearly the entire american copper industry has been shut down by a strike for almost six months it is not a famous strike like the nineteen fifty nine steel strike or afford strike or even a new york subway strike knows maybe i'm not give it much attention even though it involves fifty thousand workers twenty six unions and twenty three states this is because it is centered in the remote mountain states and not subject to the constant journalistic scrutiny which would be normal for a lot of strike in detroit or four still negotiations in pittsburgh but the copper strike led by the united steelworkers of america represents an epic struggle to change that historic pattern of labor relations and copper it is a showdown of giant forces and the people of the mining towns are caught in the middle one example is the now county arizona where the strike again against big open pit mine began a hundred seventy seven days ago fish this is a fight

that we knew and we read it they really got busted when exactly what the governor the alternative art work or the order whatever they're really covered automobile they are taking delivery will do what you want to so that they were not given they would have waited until now they were rarely have uttered everywhere you go you articulate were doing without knew too much weight will ever be without love i know for sure were going to run out of nowhere looking finished any believe that illinois when it wrong impression they were when we got a way of dealing with our own union's long the local basis where negotiations have been conducted we find ourselves able to get along we have an understanding of the problems

confronting each other but the real difficulty is the power play that is being undertaken by the recall the pittsburgh a steel workers union in alliance with the industrial union department just three years ago set across the bargaining table from an industry i just don't think it understands to like the bargain because a cop car companies have been doing this for years more than a thousand men are on strike at the crack of copper corporation re minds division in the central areas it has been a genteel strike in an area where violence is not uncommon even when it was slow to company executives assured the mine in december there was no trouble you know

all right but with no settlement in prospect that i got called for the man to return to work chief negotiator among plan it appears that the attitudes which were very hard during the strike here tend to soften one employees are back to work when the productive production is on the way in the union has i think that a greater obligation to the people it represents and we think that a solution can subscribe to me so we're reserves

who are you regardless of our party i still addressing the faces a good morning and at a popular minute one of it and all that all americans you don't give up i think as a rule that they don't come in january will probably work how many years of life mrs gilbert salacious a diesel mechanic organic cotton treasure for the union local is as a militant local which until

last year was an affiliate of the controversial mind no one smelled or workers you know just before the start of the national coffers strike the united steel workers absorb the old mine million and all of its members ending years of labor rivalry arizona copper properties have been likened to fuel their names while pentagon today is considered progressive there remains a legacy of the past my father worked in the mines here and he worked in the mines and now miami but mostly here in may he would forget to god for approximately fifteen or sixteen years and in nineteen fifty six he passed away from so of course it's actually he didn't work anymore after nineteen forty seven because they felt that that permit him to work anymore before other union came here it was

quite difficult for me on miners for many reasons for one thing we didn't have any job security didn't have any any any kind of job safety of people were being killed in the mines the company apparently wouldn't care about making their mind's fatal the people who work in them without any fear of getting killed or getting injured permanently we are we often wanted to do something about that at any time that anybody thought about organizing the union why the first thing the company would do would be to two pick you are legally got into your home and in most cases he would have the entire family film an account of the accused of ad your town or tomorrow the towel itself were used to house the people who worked in the mines and enemy of each various jobs that the pentagon has to

operate here with of the people who lived here were a proximate leave ninety nine percent mexican americans the town doesn't exist anymore because the company had to tear down and vacated select their they could continue their operation expand on it well we used to have so where's hosting two thousand people in a good parents and i think when we came here i was only about seven years old but my father got the family here in nineteen thirty seven and i started grade school heroine in at that time the younger people who grew up in this town didn't know especially liking any god even though that we realize that the company that operates the mine here provided a means of living for all of the people who live around here rapper lil ed hayden

arizona is just one installation encana jobs worldwide operations which extend from canada to joy from australia to africa and i got is the largest producer of copper in the united states and second largest in the world that operates minds mills and fabricating plant in knots over a hundred million dollars a year not mr donovan since nineteen thirty four hour and i god has been shot down by long strikes before but this one was expected to be short some union leaders predicted two weeks although again i got baltimore refinery has continued to operate the unions still expected shortages of copper developed quickly and that did not happen but as copper nearly pure copper it is starting to overall strategic reserve of a double in the western united states

in all the government holds over a quarter of a million tons of copper but none was released as a result of the strike there's been no sign of a copper's shortage affecting the vietnam war effort this means that private stock piling in advance of this strike and importing of foreign cover far exceeded the union's calculations as it has turned out the united steelworkers union is facing a more serious challenge and copper than in its record national steel strike in nineteen fifty nine big copper has proved tougher than big steel those stories is felt in the little towns workout got workers live no one is starving but it is not easy last august the arizona state welfare department began a strike relief program distributing federal surplus food commodities at the fire station in aden once a month a pound of large per person i have kind of peanut butter

allotments of navy beans flowers lamb rice powdered milk and a lie anyone making more than eighty five dollars a week is not eligible which means hardly any coverage strikers are disqualified some consider a humiliating to take and that's what necessary for her the copper workers proud practical a new generation local union hall and field the stakes in this labor dispute now are far greater than any individual union member and a real sense the individual does not matter much that can wait until a price of copper goes up the union waits because it must be

a strike has become a showdown between the pentagon and the united all workers we find ourselves even after almost five months of bargaining with a union economic packaged still before us of about eleven percent per year which is a which is considerably above settlements that have been negotiated to recently which is far far above what the character thinks is reasonable for our operation a second problem which has to do with the union that a companywide bargaining is one that third we just cannot very favorable toward yes it's partly we have bargained with our unions for the couple producing properties in the west as a single bargaining group and i got negotiations have always been held in salt lake city but this time there was a dear friends steelworkers union entered negotiations with the added power of mine

male members in the past i gather been able to apply that to unions against each other in separate bargaining session this time democrats stood firm in the face of a concerted no mandatory settlement covering all of its domestic operations group of other international unions involved join with steel worker negotiators but even a reduction of economic demands brought no company response call it a stalemate the two sides did not even meet between october nineteenth and december twenty seven they could not even agree on the dollar value of each other's proposals mr flynn oh god i got to boil down to big labor versus management federal mediators could not tell the bad guys from the bad guys only the us was certain the merger of my melon smell their

workers with the united steel workers had not produced an irresistible force and i got was not moving because they're reporters here was not any progress made today the positions of the parties are the same as they were when we last met on october the nineteenth loyal in late november the steelworkers' union this one in tucson arizona are now free food spanish language songs about the strike and a chance to relieve the tedium of hanging around the union or at

the rally did little to explain the failure of negotiations you did this play and no unity among labor leaders to it often before been antagonistic and at work only one day radio slash or europe it's

been i think you know little bowl week that point of no return and there's no return to work again for copper workers the old notion of the workers against that was still a powerful emotion but as the strike dragged on toward christmas we already grabbed mining towns of arizona became even more here this is riverside where some pentagon workers move after expansion of the mine had closed the old company towns of sonora and ray to this day the copper workers are almost totally dependent on one company can i cut in nineteen fifty eight the company arrange for the development of conning a new style company gun control

wyman not owned by anna gunn christmas shopping in carney was a grim search for credit the margins grumbled about declining trade one star complained of an increase in pilferage by strikers children essentially economy is in a depression some of the men have left town to find temporary jobs elsewhere a few families have moved out most people were able to arrange a suspension of mortgage payments but above all add years that there was only one fact of life in carving a strike against ghana got my school officials know that an absence of those flights between union gets a management gets the price of lunches for grammar school children was cut from twenty five to fifteen cents but only for the two week period before the holidays and i just do two strikers families costa

school district seven hundred fifty dollars ironically pentagon days most of the school taxes for the housewives in town there's only one real topic of conversation because they have hi eric just barely get by on a renegade character come on utilities get their house panel of failing they got further delay going away or filling our weedy go somewhere

or below that's when we go live now that five dollars at once a week local nine voting issues food certificates good for up to twenty five dollars and locals starts monday as significant day is the day strikers wait for the food certificate more than anything else as held a strike together every week a billion dollars a meeting to tally up the grocery store a charge accounts at the start of the strike there was open this contempt of international union was not putting up enough money and strike really now every week local nine fifteen gets three thousand dollars from the international one of the wealthiest members of aa of wellesley io every tuesday laurie bench

international representative of the steelworkers' concern from clinics designed checks were local mine fifteen and the other nearby locals but in the absence of really goes she oceans the coppers strike has become a propaganda battle the union effort is coordinated in salt lake city by a veteran steelworker publicity man carousel and in los angeles and my family a new material comes from steel worker anymore isn't that spurred the big problem for the union is gonna gods back to work them so clearly in crisis this is it using to say americans are remembered in a community at large and we have to not only respond defensively that we have to reach an offensive

propaganda program we have to tell our people but the issues are what effect and we have to counter as the company bizarre statement whenever the company so if you read their proposal who think the chemical was ready and willing to borrow here is an example a full page ad in monday's wall street journal on the copper stripe and by the proper strike information bureau of five hundred fifth avenue in new york city the strike information bureau as relations firm selvidge and lee i am i got a god and other covered companies the headline and the ad says the copper industry says oh and this five month strike at the bottom of the air they say it is trying to settle now all right can i cut this is the avner the industry and we'll take you at your word we agree it's time to settle now the unions

have them and are ready to engage in serious collective bargaining we are ready to start tomorrow morning is going to caught reading you have anything new to propose will get caught pentagon official who can make a decision be present at this meeting and even less to make it clear that unions are ready to mate let's go that's what your ad says it's time to settle now thank you and good evening skinner's lawyer led to the december twenty seven meeting and nothing else i asked minister going on the union credit up and goes in salt lake city and ship them to arizona as hear about it on the strikers families from both sides there is regarded news from my mind that there is nothing new to report in a labor negotiation there are no meetings being held at non outline why not ask your union officials to let you

go back to work while they settle this strike if your ears are democratic and you have a voice in our politicians speak up like yourself or tell them to let you go back to work well they go back to the bargaining table if you have questions or comments that your message when you have the tarp thank you for calling democrat new buses take a mercado is the life of a strong and active union man eventually and her friends are interested in the ghana cut proposal we find intriguing but and so yes i think they would find a way to keep the men working without settling for what they're asking for the colorado way

finale the psychology of this is responsive to what we feel would be in the best interests of employees and it got unions and the negotiations we do want our boys would bring whatever pressure can be brought to bear on the leadership of the union to see if negotiations can be concluded and we think that they can be successfully concluded while employees turn their return to work up to us to try to go back to work because we didn't fire point we've been out too long out and decide that and the only way they know my

word thank you this week mrs always earns more than five dollars a week at her school cafeteria so her family is better off than most still a ton of desperation reid said that maybe and with over there and with a different generation working

and anyone to have them then our eye i but all i know where to find money and long as needed to let me know i don't i don't like it i don't like going to worry about him very new idea or like a word there were no coping with the outgoing it what we started in india richer that gets arrested and some of the smaller unions in the industry are iris pritchard they're going to stay with this vivid symbol like

to try finally have a fight with a man if you get it and they didn't want to do that a psychological age next time and i think this is their feelings and i believe that they are that they have sean are willing to spend over a showdown and i think it's quite clear now it's been clear to me and i think for some concern audie and they are the truly they're called metal but this is really the role of collective bargaining has been legislated into a nerve in this country and we understand that away have union representation that the aig employees are going through their union membership it is going to be bound by the year the desires and goals of the unions and non though only union membership can be convinced by employees are other

pressures that the goals are objectives are not attainable or undesirable the situation will persist they seem to want to set aside and tell us to wait and wait wait until they figure that we have forgotten what we asked them for the first lady's hoping that we will eventually forget that we did ask for the things that we are willing to write up a new contract for better things and go back to work but the people are here are not i'm willing to be dictated upon by the company anymore not anymore not let him back in nineteen forty eight and in the early fifties that they used to get away with doing that with is that well we we have decided that it isn't going to be that way despite the determination of gilbert's always and the others it appears the union will have to forget its demand for companywide bargaining changes always been slow in the copper country of arizona and what

the union demanded was sudden change in collective bargaining methods pentagon has been willing to wait for the union to forget that whatever else the union does get for its members it will hardly be adequate reward for those who were caught in the middle of a showdown between big unionism and big management the system the air in washington is edward p morgan between big business and big labor justice to a third party the public is hard to come by the ramifications of this copper strike are many and they will re re arizona is a ghost town but on the edge of baltimore at endicott refinery as this video filmed shows is going full blast has not missed a day going to face is right january twentieth when the steel workers' contract expires there was more is refining important topic ironically more dollars

there's a second with operating abroad there is a third even heavier i have a stockpile of three thousand tons of pure copper part of which we live in that arizona phil if any of that were put on the market the unions would rise strike right no administration wants to alienate labor least of all an election year for the more critical wade bargaining is coming up in the steel industry itself but the pentagon argues that if it could draw the government shoppers stockpile for weapons for vietnam it would save the defense budget unless the taxpayer money there is a flicker of encouragement on this turbulent arrives negotiations between the few workers and phelps dodge one of hopper's big four resume in douglas arizona tomorrow and now edward p morgan and personal point of view

frankly i never understood the vicissitudes of economics my family budget has always flashing tilt on its own balance of payments but the fact is that dollars or the lack of them already dominate the news of nineteen sixty eight on new year's day president johnson clap controls on investments of broadband in effect warned american tourists yankee stay home he argued these measures are needed to defend the dollar against gold speculators and the drain from transactions with foreign countries where by the us is losing more dollars than a freeing all that's not all the president still commands a ten percent tax hike the core inflation and help pay for the war in vietnam no macy's basement bargain at any price it's a tough year for the taxpayer especially if he wants to take a trip there is considerable reason to expect or perhaps i should add that the non experts may be allowed a comment if we realize at that economics is not an exact science and be that the story is basically a

political one anyway the dollar drain is a problem of the president's pronouncement concealed more than they reveal exactly one month ago in a little publicized beach in the house representative henry royce of wisconsin student in economics member of the joint economic committee of congress in himself a democrat birds the president to rethink administration policy before congress reconvenes there is considerable reason to suspect that roy's that much of the recent gold jewelry in london paris in zurich was you buy american flight of capital that came into being in the first place because of our leaky loophole ridden tax system this week royce de listed for the dollar does indeed need defending what as for the ceo of one of the president's tour the president promised efforts the us is already been trying for years to increase your exports and to get our allies to help pay the cost of keeping american troops in europe but president johnson said not one word about the war in vietnam as a major complication in the

dollar dilemma piles of the twenty three billion or more dollars a year we spend on and find their way to a european money markets worsening the imbalance of payments furthermore ways contends other governments would more readily cooperate to strengthen the dollar if they relied more firmly or at all in the us commitment in vietnam and believe that lots of polls suggested runs the belgium decided to re conquer the congo if she tried such madness her allies would simply be valued the boat and frank making it too costly the analogy with the amount may not be so farfetched as the sea rather than respect american tourists rice proposes mother's hubble subsidies to encourage more europeans to visit the us he figures is revealed at least a quarter of a billion dollars ford payments ballots after the higher income tax he opposes it now maintains it

must be coupled anyway it with an honest package to close tax loopholes costing us many billions a year congressman royce says neither solomon nor the oracle of delphi but he speaks for many who demand more candor about the public trouble is gender is always in short supply in an election year that's the shape of this observers point of view maybe i'll continue ms harris science editor john osmonds last night in all of california a team of stanford university surgeons perform the world's fourth transplantation of a living heart from one human being to another they cut out the failing heart of mike kasparov fifty four year old steelworker and replaced it with a healthy heart of forty three year old virginia white wood died of a massive brain hemorrhage the man who led the surgical team and for one

half hour operation without the normandy shumway jr a pioneer in heart surgery even before the first human heart transplant patient was performed five weeks ago in cape town south africa but the show maury announced that he was ready to do the operation speedy els won terrain your station kqed in san francisco interview dr shumway at that time in addition to that interview you will see a film of an actual operation dr shumway performed on dogs it is the very same technique used successfully last night and to cast rock and this is why you'll see hart remove trans latin and of blood vessels so in place than an electric shock applied to restore the rhythm of life not to show you say you're ready to transplant a human heart from one person to another now the us we're now after seven years of intense leverage her preparation come to the point i think we're clinical application is justifiable under certain conditions have a date for this when the operation going to be we don't this is the sort of thing that's an emergency procedure and that can

be schedule like a routine heart operation the present time so in fact there isn't a day but what needs to be what needs to occur is a prelude to this is the presence in the hospital at the same time an individual who is dying of heart disease of another individual who is dying not because of heart disease dr hart available for the transplant but there must be more to that matching a donor and recipient justin than one is dying and one is that they're both dying here us this is a this is truly courses takes us back into the area where we've learned so much in recent years of kidney transplants and it's possible now through the use of not just red cells were also white cells to find certain still compatibility factors so the organs that are transplanted from one individual to another will not be rejected with the same violent says somebody has to individuals who do not have ne yo matching other tissues blocked major differences were there be in transferring a heart from one human to another

a from the work you've been doing with dogs well there are there are many differences but there's an old adage that has been enunciated and as probably almost true in the laboratory and that is that anything you can do with dogs you can do more easily or with a human and i think you know this is the basis actually for all cardiac surgery today we started out with a very primitive heart lung machines in the year in the laboratory they're finally improved upon an apply to humans with much better results then we had an ear or reason to believe would occur so i think that whereas the step may seem odd major from the laboratory into clinical use so it is in fact perhaps almost more of an emotional problem than it is at a scientific difficulty i you mentioned this reject problem that the human body naturally rejects something that is born to a dozen that are you saw this

exactly well this is this thing this is part of the work that's been going on a laboratory and as i say is it can be extrapolated are to the human values sameness that in animals we find that the heart transplant very much like a kidney within seven to ten days will be rejected so it's necessary to give the reception animals some immune suppressing chemicals and these are actually attenuate the body defenses to foreign protein and all our graft which is placed and that recipient that to thrive and develop and this is been carried out in dogs and we find that we can have the long term survival of animals after heart transplantation up as long as one year which compares very favorably with kidney transplants are you saying that when you do this transplant you expect the human being who gets a new

heart will live for maybe just a year but you know this is the year longer survival dogs at the present time in and the dogs the limiting thing has not been so much paul mcgrath rejection as it has been the interference or the intervention of of devastating infections due to the immune suppressing chemicals now a kidney transplants infection has not been a huge problem even though these patients are carried under immune suppressing chemicals that it has been until i returned at dogs are subject to many more kinds of infections honor him and so we would believe but the dangers of infection would not be so great in the human heroes as oppose her developmental i retire the hardwood be removed within a half hour of the exact time of death and then it would be cool and prepared for transplantation in general a heartless be the same size or the ages not so important in other words if we were thinking in terms of a thirty five year old owner our partner thirty five year

old recipient of the donor heart libya from a teenager all away to somebody and as early sixties so the ages not important of the sizes relatively important and of course in no small children this is even worse so despite the tremendous variation in the size and range of individuals early heart size is not all that different and there's almost a standard beer and heart size that they're any hard to would achieve so the growth starting a growth pattern of lay out potential donor or his family for that matter fuel since the donor will not be around obviously is not necessarily the heart does not necessarily need to be beating at the time it might have a convulsive contraction know now and then as long as a half are after death of the individual and under the circumstances a chorus of course death that requires a definition perhaps it

isn't altogether today here illegally acceptable because the legal definition of deafness and is entirely on the heartbeat i think in terms of severe brain trauma when they experience of eight the staff of doctors who are taking care of this individual in decades but there's no chance for survival our survival a condition rather than a vegetable that this certain type of individual is in fact a truly that despite occasional twitch of the heart after there's no blood pressure i believe that there's a lot to this from the standpoint for example of anticipating life without someone else's heart or anticipating life if you will in the case of the artificial heart which has many attempts are being made to develop as you know without a hard at all dr shumway do you envision a day when there will be a hard banks like blood banks and eye banks oh that's

i'm out possible they were taught me now and something twenty five to fifty years can't believe the process a little bit of a laboratory through the use of an intermediate host and what we do is to take the heart for a mock cadaver animal and transplanted the neck ahead or topical press were doesn't do any work in an intermediate host and the heart can live there for as long as three or four days before transplantation into the final recipient so this might have some analog perhaps in their human our clinical application in libya i think a less harmful thing for example in giving up a perfectly normal kidney which people a day are very willing to do in the event of kidney transplantation you're saying that they're human being could carry a heart around for awhile before was transplanted into another that's right and this would open up another interesting avenue of possibility and that is the delicate area where there hasn't been much research of preparing the organ immunological a few well

before it is transplanted into the final recipient other words it might be possible to induce some kind of immunological unresponsive mass in this oregon by direct treatment with immune suppressing chemicals while it is a parasite in the intermediate host though my doctor show was heart transplantation patient what kasparov is reported in satisfactory condition the next twenty four hours or critical with the techniques developed by dr shumway in his laboratory experiment with dog heart transplants have been measurably increase the chances that my guest brad will survive this has been another the continuing series of experimental interconnected broadcast edited for public television by the public broadcast laboratory of the

apple hack television stations in los angeles san francisco washington dc and we go from here he sees close and now the next recovery be alive and often sentence is going fine united states told of such negotiations to spell out the tactics or portions of the thought as bernice bishops be