Public Broadcast Laboratory; 207; Polish Laboratory Theater

mayor whaley you you know tonight the american premiere performance of jessica tells he's bullish on social issues introduction acropolis he held a specialty wear sky to a world renowned british director the same thing at all last night egypt's first introduction to the polish laboratory fear by louis friedman bpl is bad and oh yeah the language is polish but the actors are

members of the polish laboratory theater and the play was written by stanislav this beyond ski at the turn of the century good evening i'm louis friedman and actually i don't speak polish and it's possible that some of you don't either we are presenting a play tonight and thailand polish because we believe that it's a fascinating and moving experience in the theater ten years ago years ago a task he was a young actor in poland and he found in the laboratory in order to explore the forms of the fear they're using the theater in the pursuit of the truth since then wherever his work has been seen in paris or mr mexico city has been acclaimed as one of the most exciting mines to work in the theater since thomas loves me peter brook the british director who's probably best known for is production outside has been in my era and disciple of protest before a long time i

asked him in paris won his first impressions war when he went to the polish laboratory theater levine's most that's right was of them can stay disciplined were killed over the years which was not unfamiliar i know that scene and many times working which again was interesting exciting but which in this case brenner passed a barrier and the barrel the bread pasta was in this rational communication

they reached a point in their work when the result of what they were doing began to communicate so directly to one vote dozens of languages completely vanished there's a sense of what are they about what does this mean what point in the story one stage in the acting as those members and vanished and it was and i had her but what was moved in the conventional sense one in the act of producing an emotion with something very much deeper more fundamental his actors through long and arduous disciplines a choir an understanding of certain reforms and i think that the most powerful characters are strong impression see them refine their refund and the sense that through the language of shifting rhythms under

control they then mate will they create work that speaks directly to something very deeply hidden inside each person so that those in a moment in the first performance when i didn't feel my breath quote different play something in me was disturbed rouse and then beginning to meet with them in the sense that happens in jazz and jazz as a limited partners' lives of innocent in a much more concrete way something began to beat with his performance and to know that a physical feeling of contact with a performance in the regional player the scene was the cathedral in krakow national shrine very much like westminster abbey figures in the tapestries statues convention rules and acted out scenes from the bible

from home are they right there was a survey of western culture and the plane was the test and the values of their culture for him the cathedral was polish acropolis the burial place of the tribe's symbol of the civilization with a grid just the sixty years later it was no longer an effective somebody asked where now with a test of the civilization take place his answer is the burial place of the tribes was the extermination camp at auschwitz for the actors now prisoners in auschwitz ed hula crematorium and as the rookie re enact the fantasies about a season play an improper because it seemed to me that something very horrible the horror of that is of

the rooms of the very notion of concentration camp actually emerged in the acropolis has something of the nature a dangerous nature of amendments amendments all that i've seen one i shouldn't think you have but know one imagines a black mask to be that comes a point when alicia and federal forms of people dressed up there's always becomes unimportant and what actually happened is that a certain quality of people actually manifest itself not been seen significant acropolis by the same all sincerity and mastery of the rhythmic elements to the pulse of life in a concentration camp actually came out in the open and i had a feeling of something hulu announced a true repentant and one bus

stops stump speech two prisoners working among the corpses find a man who is not yet dead is it reminds them of the agony of christ and they ask themselves can hear them talking or is he listening only to his own suffering they talk sardonically about god the creator and executioner s at certain moments in the crop of this occurs and mean less hiring was not described was not referred to was not brought into our imagination is something that what's happened actually was brought into being here i think that in the swell and said that the particular value of the crop of this is that we were launched a lot of the real thing is a lot less than the word reel of great sense when the real lot through trial fantasy you dribbling so we imagine a showman something the core of reality in

a work about one takes the greatest nightmare of incomprehensible nightmare about the concentration camp and one's tempted to think that the greatest reality that you can find in the concentration camp is it's a reality in other words the documentary approach what can go beyond the statistics the books that tell us the facts of the concentration camp the device who have great skill and with the deep humility felt in the investigation ended through an investigation but he couldn't in any way but a glass of imagination of dramatizing of a concentration camp that you have to keep in the dignified honorable thing these are the facts and that something that contriving waters that would mean she can can't do more than that alongside the case there was an attempt to make to have an

international competition to create a memo a lot of cash to commemorate one of the concentration camps in the end it was founded really works about with inadequate and the only work the object that could symbolize the concentration that with keeping the concentration camp itself that existence throws that was it an exception that defies those who he has made an imaginative work of art which a defense side has the trappings of thought that says about what that is doing is now ally it's an authentic movements chanting in ritualistic ways and one could say this is turning reality of the concentration camp into something inferior at an attempt by an artist to make a beautiful work about two prisoners are sorting the hair from the corpses it's ensure quality reminds them

of physical love in the past it propels them into a fantasy of the wedding night through it the chorus of prisoners chance to love to love to love and gradually as one enters into his intentions and into what has achieved by his actors one sees that this is not what they're doing is making the spirit of that concentration camp live again for a moment and so in a sense of their work is more of the state was even statistic refers to the past and even the man describing as in the courtroom what happened with us the past he does something that no film can do the film also refers to the past he actually makes sense of the concentration camp for men and reappear and that was that i'm going to stay at sunset or chicken fingers income say that doesn't exist anymore in this

world that has nothing to do with mankind a terrible experience seeing something we mustn't forget because it happened then like the business two prisoners cross examine the third who speaks in the voice of a woman who has lost in the past last and forgetting the experiences that they've taken on the experiences for the receiver he wishes he wishes you do not have today the takeaway there but few people who can resist and those people there were a silent because they've seen something of her own eyes or rather not it was

b understood i think you have to recognize that the people who need the can draw most his words and his activists across the dozen men were if an unknown mr rich knowledge understanding and clinton he has something to say there's something of the difficult for him as an artist to transmitters is difficult and painful and he can only transmitted through intense work which he does not with words like a writer or with aids like alike than wrestling with is thinking with kansas with a small group of highly trained can be true that as he works move for the law and prove a

man a woman engaged in a hysterical debate he looks backward towards the past the consolation to her death to history she says throw away the book's twenty one other people's pain for live this minute love what he is saying is that there is an anonymous communication between him and them is like a search for certain truths in themselves that they undertake together now in a sense because they give the river of fire indeed in this it's almost impossible for them to work a year after year without an audience accepted as buffoon as the theater the theater doesn't exist without an audience and poking contradictions

in that way to try to make myself clear the theater hastert concord well in front of a pair of eyes of the reason that the present no ending the atrocities language a pair of eyes the spectator is the witness sen leahy led to commit atrocious acts maybe lead to commit an extreme act that act has no sense in this as a witness a man who climbs out on google motivated his eventful and then threaten sometimes noblemen the street or doesn't throw himself on the street commenced his extreme act in front of a witness but yet there was no communication no that necessitate communication between the man who jumps and we'll be human mystery of what has lead him to wash to john and the people watching vote of there to witness his extreme action now in a sense in

the doctor's clinic extreme acts in front of witnesses the witnesses can watch the men they can watch a number that they can refuse oh an exceptional cases they can find their way to a very great anticipation but this is neither expects too often ignored amounted in the way that in traditional jazz and there is a basis of communication which is what the film is about you know this is not about communications that one doesn't understand this one has meant starting point with just a remarkable work is not about communications it is not about doing something about doing something something thats imperfect upstairs and says i was not moved this is no criticism could be a criticism of him himself god make one wonder why i want you moved and he doesn't get the criticism of the play in won't occur for instance constantly uses as a reference

whether he's moved on oct nine and a form of theater that has a dubious reference because one has to know whether one thinks that the moving of walter kerr is something that can be held up as a yardstick is he an old human being and all of his responses ones that week sharon respect but still understand what he means is it's a quick shorthand i was a movement of the apple isn't doing his job fairly was too intellectually was too close it was to withdraw un the play wasn't quite there and he says because you will be indifferent is active women being different not out of a lack of respect them up and those feelings is not the nature of that undertaking and an entire audience is indifferent that is not a group that organs were then be an equally good witness that will be like the people whose stewardship of the windows in harlem and watched the murder in the

street and did not intervene and did not make signs of being move on well past their word that they want it was still there and that was to witnesses and that is what he is working for in acropolis the reality of the concentration camp coexist with the reality of the fantasies an old man calls to his son husain aces and suddenly the story of jacob from the book of genesis begins jacobs feels his blind eye and she said right rachel that didn't work attempts to make visible what normally is invisible the name of both one former fisher

is to put on the stage visible and tangible things that break theater for instance is very much a pitching directly on the stage of visible gestures visible concrete things the way people are dressed the way they look corresponds to visible of details that can be found in the external world the holy spirit is the broad definition carrie kahn has always existed that world again which is going through is a certain form of ritual when people could come together and a certain place but bad that something invisible suddenly is vast the engineer that you could attach it so that people who request a brother request

comes in to me say there's certain naive and optimistic people living happily in certain niche leafy suburbs of your of my country i'd say auschwitz ever existed no matter if it is a different phenomenon is a magical fit because they vague abstraction love evil and so on suddenly comes into existence and you actually come up against something that and then the moment when you're sitting in the theater that you have not come up against elsewhere that you have seen it as clearly as if you come to visit to toe to toe like the warning that us why has been caught trying to escape but nothing is little suddenly a vision of troy began last

year maybe it's better to be approached wouldn't say understood positive approach that if one recognizes that it comes from poland and the polish color seeps through this work including even today as a communist country is also an immensely catholic country and it manages to be communist and catholic at one and the same time in a form of coexistence that also is a constant an intense and passionate commission and rubber now in this very extreme climate which for us

is far from a rational humanist all protestant tradition and one reason to get close relationship with always is a religious duty and religious riots you go to polish intensity of political system and we're getting near to russia and in russia there's not only the founder of the commonest and that there was also very close by another church tradition the greek orthodox church where you have a much greater division between the congregation and what happens behind screens even than than the catholic church in both cases in the catholic church the most important things happen in a language that a lot of the congregation that follow in the greek orthodox church they have been in and out of

sight and the fact that they're still in ceremonies being conducted for people to witness for people to take part in that not in all sense of the word if we english or american say take part in once we think of everybody singing together with their church service in which everyone picked up that means a jovial priest at just twenty one says well let's jazz it up and let's listen together that is our notion of active participation religious ceremony the father you move to the east lynn neary reports a different notion which is there's a mystery the mystery is being carried out by people who have drenched themselves in it and therefore a certain degree specialists they understand the mystery of course we that we stay on the fringes allowed to get that far one industry is done for its own sake

and were not treated with content that we're not welcome to another slap on the back that we're there and we make the links we want or not that makes its own conventions the actors put their arms inside their costumes and like greek statues they become trojan heroes lovers personnel in khartoum and cassandra sings a tune and lying on his back a triumph for season four of troy while hegedus leads a single gesture of the hand why does the angel the lifeless dummy is it different times the patron saint of the dead bodies at auschwitz and christ alone

is a difficult world we asked peter brook if he had a word of advice to someone who had never seen this kind of theater before my advice would be useless because i would say maybe and reddit is nothing that anyone can do about that either you are you are and i think that if people have prejudices the grid will bring them into the open so people who want to resist it resisted even hot out and people are already open the most likely feel something and go along with it immediately i was distraught sing it assuming there's mass audience coming in suspicious men not knowing what they were about expect the force but what's happening gradually explaining the preconceptions so that four times they were about a final solution made

open and then receiving a very troubling experience which was remade from what could possibly mean to them but which was so intense they couldn't refuse of a time that happened and the other hand doing something which audiences do with iran in his case it was totaled and the reason they uploaded was on an automatic habits just to show that they're like what they've seen but because this got them off the hook it would cost back in this place that was a cop out and said that i sympathize with the band got a heart next on big deal second season this evening the american premiere performance of jersey could those cues polish laboratory theater production acropolis the deal continues in one another hit me

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