An hour with Alan Simpson

for mccain auditorium at kansas state university at our present former wyoming senator alan simpson i'm kate mcintyre simpson served in the us senate from nineteen seventy nine to nineteen ninety seven where he was assistant majority leader under majority leader bob dole he retired from the senate in nineteen ninety six in two thousand six cents and was one of ten members of the bipartisan iraq study group in two thousand ten president barack obama appointed the wyoming republican to co chair of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform along with former white house chief of staff erskine bowles the simpson bowles commission was appointed to improve the country's fiscal sustainability they failed to get the supermajority vote needed for their final report issued in december two thousand ten since it appeared a kansas state university on october twenty six of two thousand eleven as the one hundred fifty nine landon lecture on public affairs in introducing alan

simpson can stay president kirk schulz mentioned that the landon lecture marked simpson's second visit to manhattan as a member of the university of wyoming football team simpson played against the wildcats in the nineteen fifties and now here is senator alan simpson whoa holy year river have that was most region kurt thank you very much it is a rare treat this is most assuredly a great honor and i am privileged i mean that in a rare tree i've seen the brochure heavily on this campus once again all little more of that in a moment and to be invited to be part of the alf landon lecture shear ocean alongside charity and barium white hammered on him or taps out there who have made this record your home and lovely that and the plaza say it's a great great a very prestigious program and then

but first how a manager a question at the last minute to a man on the street and the house taken aback a little more mature mansion the courtroom and manchuria yes i did sleep in this shoot so i hope that takes care of that and then of course the trillion penitentiary another state one said the food and butter here when you were governor and i think that that one it there's a difference win a horse race in the political reaction in a horse race entire horse runs of course on one by request this came from wyoming early on its equipment that's why we store this couple had said three in the morning the phone rings petri says hello hello analyst too thousand mile rare hangs over lives and who were the only said some not call matches the coast was clear

so oil spill think about that only a whole lot of plans daughter nancy kassebaum baker and i went into the us senate i gather same year left the same year eighteen years later a wonderful woman and a tremendous legislator the church run the absolute joy to work with special one we sat next to turn around the senate floor til i moved up from assistant leader to bob dole wonderful my ignition can and so is love a good story and hunt financial go unknown future have them heard it my wife and i'd say yes nine talent you go how fast ice that you associate gaudin say that he can have that story of song so on and say yeah but don't laugh at him and then my father was governor

and us senator from wyoming always active in the party and end up with the delegate wyoming and alf landon was nominated for president united states in atlanta many work hard for him and bad at that convention also gave and seconding speech were unsuccessful vp candidate named arthur little romance and i share the stories of our coverage gosh i was almost tamper sheer amount of humor a quick here now here that it was exactly an october day or fifty two a when we are showing cowboys came here to play the wildcats we came by train more mentally flew in a war and we we slept in the siding in the births on the train like a veteran know accommodations probably i don't know why that was but this is rather stark place in nineteen fifty two i remember all the ritual known for one thing and

so i played guard and was six seven wait two hundred and forty five parents of beer with food it a goal line stand i was not actually do three am on the ground they're struggling to get a bewildered enough to see my mother began to come out the station's my dead mother were there and i said to my fellow stand me up just stand me up even if i don't know what i'm going to take my mother from coming down here on the field hand and she then saw me get up waving weekly and she retreated to her seat these are the closest call their dinner have with the mother now do these things so if a whale that day and never be taste a video very few will ever be them in the year to come and i think it won a record seven unknown congratulate you and bill snyder was

and is a miracle worker and now you know about heritage and tradition well my wonderful culture of this is sort of involves we believe are witness protection program from time to time to make these speeches and when i say while english at hiram to be a cowboy you can't you can't complain when you draw bargain braun former make a living on this commission with a vulcan wrong call he's a truly wonderful man people say to us why you're doing this what they mean is that this aid but they don't and we said fifteen reasons we have nine grandchildren i have six we saw the first we were doing this for our grandchildren then we as we were doing for our children our doing it for you and me now and right here in this voyage now to the trade show joe biden call me in january two thousand to animal friendly

say well i get a real deal for you have several neighboring an overture to laugh too so okay who's the coach gerry shaber of campbell's first call i get which involve unlivable think this along the finest man we've ever worked with andy's and after all she she beat him in the senate rage so a target on after resume production and it really has to be on the table he said that the eu as a very friendly atmosphere for left the show the version of the fake democrat not renewable i've been called a republican told me covering obama family so he can destroy the republican party these it's pleasant experience and every way and the we had the we met public meetings every month a working group no gimmicks all our meal and took us three months to establish

trashed just trashed the hostility discord and dysfunctional behavior between and among members of the congress and both parties is indeed say sen kerry said the weapons you simply can't succeed as a legislator unless you can work with those on the other side you're not a compromise an issue without compromising yourself and what worked and never judge a lifestyle or the reputations of others a coin of the realm was simply trust will work on roman severely punished severely so when we have the first three months we have the democrats say who's the biggest spending problem in the history and i mean safer for this i'm sure george w bush there a veto a single spending bill six and a half year ej last about two minutes and then the republicans say this guy's four

times worse than him stimulus package polio the things so glamorous and i say we a minute we'll just do a two man report just the two of us i said oh you wouldn't do that we said yeah we were this is childish actually childish a layman member who was a businessperson or a honeywell the record he got up after three months took office called and said who are you know how stupid can you be to know where this trajectory of debt deficit and increased is going in playing sandbox so we determine our report in december two thousand tam when a single member of the commission that didn't say why they voted for vermont though that with the deficit denial as they have as the dodo bird deficit denial did it did and all the stereotyping how wonderful and said now as andy stern on your commission and so the uk will be the

economy and he at the church workers union now dr noell on your commission now that i mean that go directly to kill bacteria that's fun stuff the shalom where today sadly and stern and clover and put together for recommendations on the defense department if you believe that the original defense department of correction on me now three what we found which showed how many how many contractors you have in the defense department and when the show we really don't know it's whitish prevalent between a million and a million you know these are guys in other military again into that go for what it said was suffer the military industrial complex or to use their sonar parting remark about two hundred and fifty thousand people

and then we said well don't you ever caught that permission we are an unpardonable agency we cannot be audited there's no partial weigh the odds that the french are not so we've we couldn't believe here's another one of her one thing i'm a veteran and the military and the army of occupation serve in the measure of michigan measure just a few more years i would be a military retiree the two point two million of them they've disrupted their lives and all these things many of them have never been in the national guard and reserves they were a little active duty and they have their own healthcare plan as forthright care and the premium is four hundred and seventy bucks a year and no co pay covers ever determine cost fifty three million bucks a year we said the gates what the hell's he said you're trying to change a professional veterans come out of the woodwork i am one of those

the effort of the american legion i don't call them but they're there and that and then they use emotion you use emotion fear guilt or racism to pasture kill a bill in the us congress shortly sowers and i felt that with a lifetime of waving and i have hearings on the aarp when i was in the senate so this isn't this new stuff for me i always took on the true with nancy kassebaum usually when a beer so at this point how now we didn't know how many would sign on but we felt that we have had a simple mission that we've succeeded beautifully because we have effectively pissed off everyone in the united states now that is a singular view well finally we said this not how we got here what do we do now what we do now mourdock truth is here all politicians at our table and been through the political fire

is the context for just don't like to get out but don't just sit there just go long get in or get wet or get out here are the toast of the town one man and pushed the next and you're on the cover of time one month and six months later you're doing that we will have our skin ripped off and felt the sting of the latch and a groove but global trade route around and my dad was governor and us senate room campaigning in wyoming diehard sense about votes you've you're jesus christ no man stabbed by disney's i was jesus christ he would be in my precinct so we kept our heads down till after the election knowing that they wanted us to come for before shalit to cut to shreds anything we were doing what was the election about low cut spending cuts spending cuts spending beautiful thing that knows someone would say

what is it you intend to cut but yeah all foreign aid away from abuse all earmarks nancy pelosi's aircraft or congressional pay and pensions were daily at about four percent of the hole we're in in this country it will get to peanuts and then you say walk sir could you tell us then more because you're a proposal gets a four five plant and then the transgressor have wilco released to a provision to come to them i think a number of candidates have seen stand on their hind legs and say look we can get this job done but we don't need to touch medicare medicaid the solvency of social security or defense and when you hear a person say that get up on him that he haw and challenges the media's way because you can't get there who have to deal with the big four because that's where the books are and period

but the american people know what's going on they've always been smarter more politicians they're fed up right now with this cash they're tired of bs and mush and that's all were going from all side i mean the rituals of a touched him on the powerpoint we spend more in your new movie about and if you spend a buck and borrow forty two cents you must match your country every day and today and tomorrow we will borrow four billion six hundred million bucks a day and head for seventeen trillion in debt which is impossible in the bush or describe what you might take a look at our our planet sixty seven pages it's in english who has written for the american public not for pundits or pander or curious people or sharpshooters shitty seven pages not the end of the end of

the fiscal commission bart go or above the end of the year though the moment more moment of truth project dot org is complete it's the same stuff that people been asking about when i introduced them with tax reform wants to lower the rates broaden the base cut spending in the tax code well merry christmas we did that what we found and we were stunned it in the tax code or one trillion one hundred billion things called tax expenditures they are really tax earmarks they're spending by any other name there's no oversight over them they just appear every year a quarter rather popular home mortgage employee lower health care premiums blue cross blue shield of life insurance won't get placed on lance's the package thing everybody in this room but they're only used by five percent of the american public little and i've never heard of you know what they are it takes a standard deduction

village good amount let's get rid of bomb on a train of a billionaire trend of benjamin give it to debt reduction that would take another trillion and will say to the american people ok the deal point we'll give tax rates what great a percentage or over seventy thousand fourteen percent from seventy thousand two hundred and ten thousand twenty three percent or two hundred and ten thousand and reduce the corporate rate to twenty six thirty six ago the territorial tax base or get the money back about the amount that you are than anything back such as a church saying yes to charitable deduction we said let's let charitable deductions people would happen shannon non refundable tax credit let's say a mortgage was a covert action will catch them for five hundred am not a million boat shrieking on

that as much heat until after we did and then i said what everyone to put back what were at the next hole they co star issue is if you want to pay for colluding passions including transportation infrastructure hugo trust fund for transportation pay for sure we said watch out pretty fragile out here one hurting his fragile economy up too much too soon so it had triggered should far wall and you make recommendations were the famous essay was a view on a pay for and then we thought we have to have cuts an infection and so we settled issue has reason are program was not usually embrace it with a tender on which is because we were very specific how we shared their while congressional and white house

budget by fifteen percent less a three year freeze on membership a glamorous place a three year freeze on federal workers and defense department civilian should reduce the size of the federal workforce through attrition selig said federal property or one point two million building structures a land parcel could only them when military pensions are lined with private pension including mine protect the disadvantaged stabilize the debt consider a temporary payroll tax holiday which they've already done however remember that takes money out of the sole security system which will be brought in twenty thirty six every time you reduce the payroll tax you're reducing resources of the system that people are very dependent on and then lets let's get long term shovel judicial sure they really found health care is that launched her in the kitchen a mashable you don't matter what you call

obamacare or elvis presley care i don't care care it can't work and you know they're in your head or is why teams are the folks that they are becoming sixty four and were first less healthcare will spiral there it will have to get in that game you've got what you have you have obesity diabetes long to one person in the united states with more than the other to get booed the alcohol it got designer drugs were people just walk going into the emergency room they don't even know what a cocktail i pulled out on the play the game a formal so we shared but tom to do there or whether the war will be less pay for the medical community more transparency in hospital reimbursements more co pays for better trees and

affluence testing of people you can't you can no longer go get an operation when you could buy half of this auditorium and ran up a bill of one hundred and fifty thousand bucks and never even get a bill this is nuts and you know and i know sort of the avalanche testing if you're going to get are going to have hospitals keep one set of books is that true or three people wichita gaming of medicaid of a temperature is the gaming industry and we set a global budget with realtors and took a whack of four hundred million awful and said it could grow over one percent of gdp a year you can imagine that was beautifully richie medical healthcare community alice look official security i've had more golf on that one that

left the rest of my life and the nastiest letters i get of people over seventy do you usually from gated communities where they drive to perkins restaurant or a lexus to get the aarp discounts need a handout so we are not balancing the budget on the backs of poor old seniors were trying to make this system solvent for seventy five years now that's interesting because when fdr signed that the average life expectancy was sixty three that's why this at the retirement age of sixty five the fishers that really none of that has ever been shown what i heard the beginning of the game in charge of them now americans every fourteen years longer than that they require three years earlier than that and they spend twenty years plush retirement and remember so security was never

a retirement system that have nothing to do with retirement it was an income to supplement retirement never you never should be an unconscionable in nineteen fifty two and i wanted in here there were sixteen people paying into the system and one taking out today there are three people paying into the system one taking out than ten years there'd be two people paying into the system and one taking out how long do think young people are going to sit still for their money they stick in the day i get out tomorrow the trust fund has not been stolen by idiots that's a beauty people can look flowering of them on your craft an iraqi again and ponytail i'll pay what happened on this and that any reserves and the trust fund would be used to run the government and inflation will plunge it kept would be gilded treasures full faith and kremlin onstage special special rock n roll

what happened in may last year you may imagine there when enough in their day out next month still the trustees took those bonds and said to the garment we assume money that we've made tons of them and they get they got immediately or no question but that the dead appear on the books because that's an intergovernmental transfer so that gimmickry and soul slash ears as say it took out more than it took in disability insurance was never part of the original structure and will be broken in twenty twelve that was yesterday as you know as we saw it was twenty eleven so that's i'm a pointy up on april twenty eighteen and seven years the i will be broke at this what do you put in more money or you you know no longer taking care of students at the twenty two years of age who are in college

that was never part of the system never built into the structure of these things were never built and the structure and yet they appeared there and so let's return to the trash on heritage and don't forget they're redeemable on demand but remember this then in the year twenty thirty six by doing nothing you don't want a lot of the window and get a check for twenty three percent less and no one will challenge vegetation why should we let that happen well if you leave it to the aarp it will happen that to do very little mystery of soul col here we have a situation where you will receive the terrible benefit and not the scheduled benefits or whatever even get in the mail over schedule benefit forget it because the law says it will be only payable benefits than you can chew or do anything about it but no way to get over the fact that only thing you'll receive is a parable

and it will be twenty three percent less twenty thirty six am that i moved up here wish twenty thirty seven and twenty two percent less that was a year ago so what we do well we made the benefit formula more progressive it slows future benefit growth particularly to the high earners we reduce party requesting that the enhanced minimum benefit to low wage earners you know less than a hundred and twenty five chen poverty for twenty percent that we work as for about twenty percent of the solo security recipient we enhanced the benefits for the very old add eighty five with an older coal order order benefit one percent a year from eighty eighty five an extra kick order order with the retirement age is the same for people or burned out get work on the physical

show don't change anything for them leave normal and then we say change the coca cola to a chain colo which is more modern and will save i think billion bucks and fifteen year we can get that done by the way i am and then we'd suggested a terrible thing which can anyone with half a brain were going to raise the retirement age to sixty eight by the year twenty fifty and they are accused of a terrible thing to do to people and so if you can for our to help norma bowl between twenty fifty is gonna be sixty seven and just a few more years in which we can't raise it because the life expectancy is seventy eight white wine lees are irrefutable for years and will be at re to in ten years so that was a teeny whale of a coyote from aarp

we gave retirees more flexibility in claiming their benefits recognizing the hardship exemption and we increase the tax for maximum to cover ninety percent a wages it's now hundred six of eight hundred and we take it to one hundred and ninety thousand and ten years and we showed up and more virtual of computation and with these things called chain of the band points that's inside baseball but the rich pay a little more and a little bach a little listeners more nothing was left off the table we use words an hour apart like shared sacrifice and we're in this together and we're going broke that's what we put in our city so i said to the aarp hierarchy or a set or in a patriots in here just marketers that to model all the while i look at their publications and don't miss the lash was dazzling they're

all about sex over fifty or sex or sixty seventy at ticketing and what now for the way that i mean i didn't mean to divert like eleven when the salmon there's one for fifty seven years on the war going to the levee failure there was a full page and in this last one about confidential page will be furnished you proved by a medical physician has been how to have proper an adequate sex at whatever age and the picture is some young cat died white hair bouncing on some chick on the stairway and he says these are sent to him to call for the mission an art i mean come haw that's the aarp today they feed on marketing they don't give up what about their grandchildren they don't like them they don't ensure they're going on thank you for christmas card that don't steal it they're walking on their

pants with their catch on back where it was in a snoopy snoopy poop beyond an enema man and they don't like they just ate well what i want my dad i walked to school of novel that laughter once he had the clock here ok it's funny really funny so what did last november do well it's overlooked the congress for what it did for americans remains to be seen they really mean to let go of their favorite things and i find the escape hatch with the people i meet as i'm ready to do some longer a body of a natural state you know them well and the other really ready to cut back now here's the point where is the tipping point that germann kept asking that question and you mentioned dick durban democrat leader of our second

the majority which i did with thor announcer dick durbin urban and all i said forget that stuff if that's all you can think of has to see a guy with a dram far behind his name immediately be disgusted or hate him that's just you find you can't get there the tipping point what about immigration and ireland and spain portugal italy italy on the ropes the third largest economy in europe and we'll hear it every single everything the money is cool and money people like money and they will always protect them show shows originally said were the healthiest horse in the glue factory right now and i am the money guys the market will dictate the tipping point will be government the tipping point when will come again one standard and poor's rory markus one fitch and

moody's markets because they will see a completely dysfunctional concrete completely dysfunctional government and they will pull a trigger and at that point it will be interest rates will go up and inflation will go up and the people get hurt the most will be a little gun that everybody always talks about day and night the little what a sad projector so far we're at fourteen trillion three hundred billion bucks don't forget we raise the debt limit by that tragic exercise in july which irritated everyone so it's about sixteen and a half trillion and remember that cannot possibly get there without causing and i mean cutting medicare medicaid which doris jose and causing the fans sent anyone tell you different is a fraud or fake panel forty now let's go to one of the things which are your career has your car

everyone of misstated what we voted on when we vote for and five democrats five republicans and one independent voted for this tough tough package and that sixty percent that'll get you anywhere in washington for the members of the commission on this group of while they didn't vote for but they knew what we did for years sought to grapple with that and he can recall a powerhouse really did take on this group also say that getting rid of a tax expenditure tax increase malicious review the bidding on this guy grover norquist and nobody even knew who he was grover norquist is now the most powerful man in the united states of america and still nobody knows who he is runs a little shop of horse called ocean issues for tax

reform or narrative and one rose room the path he went on a pledge but you would never raise taxes on any situation like you cut corporate mouse spending and he got those guys signed up fifteen twenty years ago and ninety five percent of the people in my party scientists have been huge sign something when you never even seen that you've never done the research you've never heard the debate anybody that would do that mostly and so grover is out there he testified before she said that my heroes ronald reagan so well by that rick perry and mine and he said the one on the night of you know reagan raised taxes eleven times in his eight years grove or anyone i know and i'm like that though so i literally alike that he did it why the whole evening he didn't sound on burden on i said he did it to make the country run a sick sick idea and so

grover then she crouched down he got work you prove he's a good guy with a very bad idea and and we have never had less revenue to run the country since the korean war tax revenue right now fifteen percent of gdp and historically it's been nineteen to twenty percent do the math we can get there with our revenue and getting rid of the tax expenditure would be a way to do that without quote raising taxes so coleman took him on borrowed six hundred billion in and then get on ethanol to get deeply into this and he see them grover call that a tax increase and of getting rid of the tax expenditures shakespearean but for the tax increase adventure on me this is an unbroken corpsman called him to depression

and i called in to put a vision and he's out there but don't forget there's sixty four us anniversary too damn siri to republicans who spent a lot of the president saying that we must address tax reform an entire range new people are employees but are he still works to write your congressperson and people and i'm amazed that people say when a rancher they don't respond at all or gotten their town meetings and get up in the back and when they say wouldn't get this done without touching medicare medicaid children hurt and offense should say you sir and without throwing anything in states that right to the super commission and see what their responses i guess we're in a situation of as a regular then we'll get to questions here are richer for some listener comments on

newspapers and wonderful than she could only save the country i think and work its way out of this if politicians will never say again i'd like to go off the record that's a fake that sexy why in the first quarter and then the drama should give up the anonymous shortage because i have never seen a nice long show that said this loner swedish hasn't ever now that anonymous sources this is the jerk of the universe said well placed anonymous source which might be the guys sit next to him in the newsroom last another story but anyway jefferson said if i were to have a government without newspapers are newspapers without a government action not hesitate a moment i prefer the latter and honorably leave your full measure but every man should be able to receive those papers and be capable of reading them on call and we don't have that in america today they'd of publication i think as people will buy

us a new national enquirer them and number four anyway someone after the other day were central market and he said kansas as bill bradley about that we worked on this issue that the tragic part of it is right now the people say puerto rico yet here we got here because of campaign finance once you got into a situation where you could max out on a primary max out on a general and now you have a supreme court decision which is corporate personhood or the corp has a person under the first amendment well enough now i'm going to going to stop and play question but on just have one thing that really means that lincoln used a great phrase often manage beaches called him a stroll it was in the second

inaugural he said if we're in his call to me is bondage intro mean your career your slave or person who is morally or mentally and slave by some power and i can say to all clarity that if our country and our congress is in the thrall of grover norquist and the aarp played in german we haven't got a prayer still in that cheerful note we'll see what happened i'm glad to take harsh as anything public private person a wary eye on your mime show for three hiroshima not one time that helped pave the way to do it is now where were we ready let's just like the center for grades you're listening to wyoming senator alan simpson speaking it can the state university this is k pr when and then the war thank you for

what you don't know what you're speaking out and we change this corporate personhood thing last ever taken our decision which will have to go back to the us supreme court but i think they're really see that this for this campaign because the republican side man this is what we'd been waiting for this is this is heaven with the unions have said man this is head and then i think i saw the other day were one democrat candidate picked up two or three million from one shore's mother caught fire from one shortage that distortion horrible distortion of the electoral process bill bradley and i am warren rudman and bob kerrey been trying to do some of the marriage her campaign reform bitter social school whole lot you got to go start with campaign finance reform

and an unmet gonna be very difficult with that supreme court decision but that's where the distortion it because now you've got guys have done all that through the years they've never requested anything but seeing our plan they're going to their coverage versions say are never bothered me before every time you hear to ask you this is it you will not let this happen to my business uses tax credit to do this to do that i'm here on your shoulder and that should difficult place for a politician thank you yes sen simpson my name is scott joseph a question as it relates to investment in higher education in the polls here in the us federal government invested quite heavily in accessing education and higher education in particular given the current the federal budget challenges what is your perspective on how we manage the need to reinvest in higher education increase access was still being fiscally

responsible our first ten of course was the chief and the president of all of the north carolina universities and he get in there and as president he took six hundred million bucks out of the system without crippling the system we're talking about the failures and higher education i think the figure at least was that the federal government provides only seven percent of the budget of the educational around the world around the knee and honest wait maybe eight now education books come from local districts the property tax special attraction higher education is clearly spoken of in our in our planet talks clearly about that infrastructure research and development all that's there urged anyone to read the report would hardly a question that i hear the burden that isn't a

dress and so obviously higher education but obviously higher education can continue to raise tuition and all the rest of the country's in or not megan and nic the day in usa today percent increase long will an article that said that the middle class is disappearing what he thinks they're protesting oh it's all my mind so it may be fun and games with much or with israel it's what's going on what happened to infrastructure what have entire education and what happened to two which i don't know how colleges and universities can continue to exist with sleep with me with fees on the cost of education i do not understand that that will get me in a lot of trouble and then watch trouble before i made fifty thousand bucks forty fifty thousand bucks a year at markets and then they say well if i didn't pay for anything and then they left and they have a debt which is going to keep him from buying a house or car or have a family for

ten years what is that do for the country soul and guess who gets the rake off where the government does this i'm some guy and more chinese a great benefactor of all time and he got all with jack by getting it out of sallie mae will is a great benefactor with your money a lot of that from him sir thank you one thing sheriff joe slash another moment grief through there are here through their way let's go you hear about the ideas under your automatic and as long as you want to do one question you've reported on to make a decision on obamacare another future you think they'll reject it what's a rejected the better come up with an alternative because if you reject that it's just going to continue to eat through the whole united states as i say go ahead and get rid of a few

local twenty dollar question with that unless you do something with apple especially coal pays you know reducing proprietor doctor hospital you don't do that call available hi my name is that in the very end of a goddess in here i came from wyoming so i was actually one day what you see is the place that traditionally libertarian states and the future politically with senator sessions are also hurting themselves to the tea party well i don't fall out of it in my own life and why only all my life and my she another lonely it if i were running for office today in wyoming and had cleared through the republican central committee i would be nominated in any way my intuition settling on france's strict groups right now let me david that there i would not

come through that system because i've always said on when nancy kassebaum abortion in that hideous and terrible thing but it is a deeply intimate and personal decision and i don't think men legislators should even boat on said that don't know soft stuff gays and lesbians helena cousin were war to cure silver star gay what the hell that we're all god's children were all human beings and in my car even we have jewish stock images of women the early one and the whole family if you're a cup coffee died on edge your question but wyoming is i don't think the libertarian state it's a state that believes in the basic of what republicans always said they believed in witches government out of my life the precious right to privacy and the right to be left the war and

how does that comport with those other issues it doesn't we have time for one more question and so yes i think senator simpson you mentioned before of applause of spending that we face the nation medicare medicaid so security and if that's what is your little optimism that these will truly be on the table and that these recommendations will be seriously consider possibly two thousand thirty year or hopefully sooner on a mouth of your social media version i have shed were available to visit with the tall and they won issue back on monday two two to testify before the twelve normally anything new come out there no fingers to find the actuaries of all the new jobs the danish exceeded its work domenici rivlin didn't work we did our work they are just grappling

and chill and won a share and if they want us here to share with them the frustration of what we went through or if a water searchers a scapegoat we are perfectly willing to be there another rig that wants say no we don't want to do anything but the future and the nationalists for year and we've gone you so there's the great women on them that's great but there wouldn't be a reason and these are good people they really are but don't forget four of the militia a war on me were only are the commission on fiscal responsibility and reform they know what happened they just don't know what to do and so let me just share with you a one minute if that's your question by clay weather got less than just a vision of one man vj share with you i think it's my view that we forget it entirely too much in this country we forget our greatness we forget our role in the

world and yet not be arab and we forget that we're the only nation on earth founded on a belief in god whether you live or not not the issue we forget our strength we forget our blessings we forget our roots of escaping religious tyranny we forget one of the first countries on earth for free the slaves i just feel we should treat ourselves with a lighter hand the tender with each other member to win must be pretty good country or else why would everybody in the world be trying to get here we should be proud of our heritage and our generosity and hospitality and our diversity and short hurt the throat of other countries we have one too brother against brother and five days of that struggle across five aprils more died the normal length the horror of the ethanol six hundred and fifty thousand died in that war and i think we

should be slow to judge others to have to defend the week a steady mr rudolph to combat evil moore plenty of unruly or contemplation huge be quote pretty damn fine experiment called america's thank you remark hurt you just heard helen simpson retired republican senator from wyoming and co chair of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform also known as the deficit reduction commission say then gave the one hundred fifty nine landon lecture on public affairs kansas state university on october twenty six two thousand eleven audio of this event was provided by kansas state university other speakers in the landon lecture series featured on k pr prisons have included supreme court justice sonia sotomayor health and human services secretary and former kansas governor kathleen sebelius admiral mike mullen of the joint chiefs of staff fdic

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