1973 Watergate Hearings; 1973-07-27; Part 5 of 5

it's been i think not as the information in this way about the main public you think he still would have submitted his resignation and the twenty seventh of april well i had no idea as to the state of the investigation at that point working directly with the attorney general peterson and i think they were calling it in very well most of the time you think the president would have this was a resignation thank you

and they bailey well i'm not sure i get service law like well sometime of the local water it was dirty original grand jury process now you stated yesterday that some other

witnesses are not required to understand that you've been making phone calls no sir your testimony that that song requested your station witnesses also all the grand jury so the grand jury may have questions the wimbledon many questions that the boss the testimony mr stanton's was taken on justice

analysis of the rendering and investments of the prosecuting attorneys i mean there's no any way of getting it right now and his resume that he knew more about the finances don't work on any other film and the emotional normal what is it

good as western march plants wildlife fans that got bulldozed maybe and my friends that they were investigating the regular army oh really it was a moment when i thought was really important is the security are totally committed to realize that it was not only all my wrist and an application now a few days later on the finance committee will likely

annie howard hawks who is on the white house payroll and the have nots and the white house and who had not associated with many were arrested in masterminding the fire mr chan yes instead of deposits that money isn't buying which would've made no documented record of them received and this was while he hadn't won millions seven hundred thousand dollars campaign to save his intent in the opposite of his committee he testified

that won one i'm in mobile million dollars of this money was this march and play he testified gave him and told him that he had grave misgivings about this virus of thousands of dollars and change although also the obscure rule to the depth the director of this aisle we made it direct who really was great he testified that the sort of the misgivings it specified

that will not grow beyond a confrontation with making mr mitchell yeah anecdotal that metals that isn't going to do business with also ramped up on the ninety nine thousand dollars in pay you also follow reiterated his misgivings that he spans say in the snow i don't know what this one is being used for i don't know what this one of the youth ball and you know will be no question which led to

the additional processed up with witnesses an investigation civil war when do about the big questions but i'll wait which was kind of time whether any personally and i haven't been in a tarzan yell break into the watergate a lot of empathy mr martin right it would have ended

then direct hit on the watergate weyrich into the navajo and this on the operations it's not related to re elect the president and committed to really see it and this was not all prosecuting at times this is danza premise that was a place that request a big way and that was a law that will benefit of this testimony mr ken auletta the seventeen people with no arrest and walk about their less the viewers we left with the

impression that the grand jury would see the devastation i think it's important to note that prosecutors and businessmen any additional questions that they might wish to have asked when the fact is that as they could have asperger's to stand on sir i just i think you're leaving the impression that the chairman of the deposition was somehow on another step away from the grander than that and then the question how far are you suggesting are you suggesting that his testimony before the grand jury would have been available to this committee chair the

law but the wednesday mr stanton person and i think that once that is what we kind of way and i'm going to be rendering they read a statement that all up and the prosecuting attorneys an estimated ten find out what's been set up for the revenue and you know what this is that makes people really oh of justice is opening it with the chairman that it high

and no quarter major bases that it's an extraordinary an unusual situation for want to give testimony for grand jury probe says but the station's that a person might only one collateral point and this is not set in defense of anyone it's simply an observation headmasters day and testify before the grand jury in person this committee would not have had that testimony the important thing july and with which actually agree is that the grand jury system did not function and the risk that way the prize it was unique it was different lot or apparently image may be less that we were there as a committee that testimony the grand jury's deliberations on a lot of the environment they would not have been available to this committee an inning now

you're welcome we'll update it didn't happen because business has been great again well

oh they are making it oh boy regulators oh really he's been playing well law day there will likely

be no they were bright ms burrows be and apparently has still more to say in the committee obviously has more questions of their return monday morning when the hearings resume bergman has not been the most talkative witness the committee is heard but several senators about we find in the one who inspires the most fear with his view of presidential power has all but limitless perhaps the summer suggested this is nothing but a tactic designed to distract the committee from

examine the specifics of the watergate break in or cover a steel mills comments on those points and served as a confirmation for many students of presidential power was all white house role growing at the expense of other branches of government dr lipman testimony may set a new record for the committee in terms of longevity outlasting even that of former presidential counsel john dean uk as a report on what that means to the committee's timetable the length of elements testimony means that the committee may have to abandon plans to recess on august third several senators including senators talmage weicker and indicate they might like to skip the recess altogether and applying right through august but there are other opinions and one of them i got from rivers that justin the deputy chief counsel god is a muslim and will come back on monday and on monday i must say i've never the chairman and the vice chairman on three four

occasions today say that the committee was going to go home for a while on august third and you know i not only believe what us senator can say is that things may occur that we will not be able to leave but i'm simply saying that i know that the chairman the vice chairman say that they are very anxious to go on the thirty nine i don't i can't go and you're not here and in other matters like that that you know we can come back and we can come back earlier than that the senate will come back i'm making the bet that we will go home another casualty of the lengthy testimony as the watergate committee staff and on top of all its other troubles of has to prepare the committee's case against the white house this may go to court on the part of the committee next week possibly as early as monday until today there had been much criticism of the committee's questioning of john ehrlichman a change today according to our two observer experts at least to watch it with this jack murphy at georgetown university law center and clark mona

pulitzer prize winning investigative reporter the des moines register tribune and syndicated columnist and former special consultant to president nixon christmas party because they get better nearby was more shopper joe we have after three or four days now of another general analysis of the constitutional powers of the respective branches of government issues of national security isn't very hard question about a detail involvement of mr wittman in the critical meetings in june of nineteen seventy two january of nineteen seventy three march of seventy three and april seventy three i was trying to learn some the gurney was the one who broke through the miasma of generalities which we forgive me wanna lose weight and brought us back on to the critical details with which this case should be concerned the satellite represent a false start on the general concepts of the parties in this country to produce information from the involvement of the cia and especially in that could mean in june twenty thirteen nineteen

seventy two between john walters mr helms <unk> just fascinating beyond question and casting new light on that particular period it will be very intrigued to see what father will be a question clark you agree that today at least there was some focus on the conflict between what our advanced testimony differ with others aren't today i think that committees early and even sadder montoya was able to zero in on the conflicts and he pointed up for specific conflicts about seven or eight witnesses with ehrlichman and this would arrange ball away from being all away through mitchell strong and others but i think the most important thing to date was the use of the tapes of our conversations which ehrlichman up actually our obtain or cook when he was thinking was protecting himself and they came back to haunt him today last time i saw anything like this was

when the jimmy hoffa back in nineteen fifty seven was rocked by the dioguardi at tapes new york city and where he was they were playing back his conversations to date ehrlichman found himself faced with his own words and force to try to make explanations of his conversations with dream for you as more of a co conspirator then an aggressive investigator of the watergate cover up for cia there were coming because he had done the taping had given the transcripts to the committee but he was caught with his own words and he would have every written those words a great deal and look at all the way through but today i thought the most significant thing was senator ervin's pressing to get the admission from our early on that president nixon was the one who had actually requested that we call the justice department to make these special arrangements for maurice stands to testify at the justice department away from the federal grand jury until it

passes that even before the grand jury because as a senator durbin pointed out that material the stands testified before the committee if it had been before the grand jury last fall would have made of prime aphasia case to unwind go and cover the whole cover up at that stage because stands was knowledgeable about all of the financial details the questionable activity by mcgruder the conflicts between mcgregor and sloan and then a wide range of other things and senator irvin pointed this up as the hearing came to a close and the most magnificent dramatic fraction and the same court that his well worn out that the reason that the ad that it's important to question about these various events like the stance requests like the cia meetings is that all this adds up to what is commonly been referred to as the cover up now not now mr

ehrlich version with that other people's version but it's these types of specific events that either either have to cover up or donate it to cover up the past all the things that one less ifs the answers the question of what the president knew when he knew it and what acts he took them out into the favoritism and today you see one of those acts of favoritism his friend his former commerce secretary more he stands was financial secretary to the committee to re elect the president and did not have to go before the grand jury and put up with what any other system would've had to put up with under those circumstances and i think senator of them in a very valid point that this was of favoritism and senator hart baker agree that it was an unusual and unique proceedings b stop short thank you very much mccain talked a few minutes

ago about the desire of several senators to work right on through august and it does watergate phase of the hearing's over what sen bernie said one of those mob singing television interviews during the lunch break but for the good of the nation these hearings must be quickly concluded so the orderly affairs of government and reserve this is the same sentiment that has been offered by others president nixon said it in an indirect way that they got out of the hospital chastising an effect all the senators and ordinary people like you may i guess who are wallowing in watergate there seems to be a growing feeling of these theories will just thanks will hurt that when witnesses ehrlichman and an alderman and colson and then graham findings and probing helms and others and suddenly the lobby over wallowing in watergate as well as the crisis and government that goes where the white man's war omar whether or not president nixon knew about corporate dissipated and watergate and its cover up whether or not john dean or john mitchell or john ehrlichman are jeb magruder or any of the other witnesses are lying and saw well this is nonsense

and my opinion they're in fifteen versions of the same ad means only that we've heard fifteen versions of the same ad it does not mean that the man at the bright lights in the hearing room them all truth and knowledge will crystal was like a neon light across the sky forget that just isn't going to happen there are too many indictments and trials coming in that crucial tapes issue must be resolved among other non hearing vines andy sachs the uk government neil and i are going to go on vacation homes for and for those three gentlemen myself somewhere on a nice weekend will see you again on monday from washington you've been watching gavel to gavel videotape coverage of hearings by the senate select committee on presidential campaign activities this coverage is made possible by grants for special event coverage from the corporation for public broadcasting and the ford foundation and has been a production of unpacked and a vision of a greater washington educational telecommunications association

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