Public Broadcast Laboratory; 226; Law and Order
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Porsions of the following program are brought to you in color. It is Sunday evening May 25th, and this is P.D.L. Second Season. The public broadcast laboratory and experiment in public television. Tonight, a repeat of a previous program, rides a beat with a football car to the toughest part of Kansas City, as P.D.L. presents law and order of building political of a big city police force, the problems it faces, and the people's diplomats. Tonight, P.D.L. will last 90 minutes.
Now, here is Chief Correspondent Edward P. Martin. Good evening. The late-great President of Harvard, Charles Elliott, once said, in the modern world, the intelligence of public opinion is the one indispensable condition of social progress. Our lives these days are handcuffed by such a constant chain reaction of crises that progress, so to speak, often seems totally arrested. One reason is we've neglected Dr. Elliott's wisdom and imprisoned our common sense in a cell of narrow prejudice, selfish pride, and blind passion. If we never summon the courage to level with ourselves and see things as they are, how can we ever expect to make them what they should be? How, for instance, can we come to grips with the urban crisis until we learn how society actually treats the police hired to protect us and how the cop-in-turn reacts to us and the job we've handed him. In May 1968, three months before the Battle of Chicago, P.D.L. commissioned an independent producer of integrity and talent,
Fred Weizmann, to film an urban police force in action. What follows is Weizmann's report, which P.B.L. is proud to air. This is not an encyclopedia on law enforcement problems. You'll see no riots either on the campus or in the ghetto. The multi-billion-dollar drag of the Mafia on society is not pursued. The organized crime, counting its corruption of police and other people, must cost us far more than crime in the streets. These exciting subjects have caught big headlines, spun a kind of cops and robbers folklore, but occasionally inspired thoughtful journalistic treatment. Too often in the process, the incredibly demanding, repeatedly dangerous, but often dehumanizing day-to-day life of the ordinary policeman has been forgotten. That's what Fred Weizmann's story is all about. In Kansas City, where this film was shot, the maximum base pay for a policeman is a he $200 a year. This is less than the average union sanitation worker gets in New York. We've made the cop among other things a sort of human garbage collector.
Keep the streets clean of derelicts and deviates, we say, in effect. So society will be spared the sight of its own failures. We even close our ears to the language, which is as much a part of a patrolman's life as his nightstick or the slums and skidros on his beat. Used as both a weapon and a shield, this language is rougher and uglier, but often far more honest than what's said in church or in the living room. This film's vulgarities are not there for shock value, but for their veracity, reaching for a true reflection of the hatred, fear, callousness and contempt, spawned in an environment of neglect and violence. Since people can be squeamish, certain words have been deleted from this film. Some viewers may still be offended by what they see and hear. Others may be equally offended by the facts that taste has dictated the removal of some material. If Fred Weizmann's documentary does no more than contribute to the intelligence of public opinion by broadening the debate on police community relations, television, hopefully,
will have broken some new ground. And, paradoxically, the absent obscenities symbolize the biggest obscenity of all, societies stubborn refusal to face facts. However unpleasant or downright dirty, they may be. Do you understand what you charged with? You charged with beating this boy, hitting him with a gun, and committing sexual assault on him. Do you understand that? Yeah, I understand if that didn't do it. I'm not sure if you understood what you're being charged with. That happened to him before he came home.
How do you know that happened to him? Well, that did. They, I didn't, it, it says that you're the one who's done it. I wasn't the one that stepped in frame someone. Where'd they come from? I don't know. I never didn't know what was going in there. You didn't know that was going in there. Do you have any money too hard in the hearing? No. Well, I think I better contact them for you then, because you're in trouble. Apparently, you don't realize the seriousness of this thing. You know what the doctor described, the condition of this boy? Well, he said it was his opinion, or he beat this boy. It's a sadist. What that is, either. You don't understand. And you say this was reported within the last week. I think so. I'm not exactly about the date, but I think it was. But I don't know this much. I know that my sister's afraid to prosecute him, and I'm not. I'm a little guardian.
She doesn't have a husband. She's a little sick. I want to talk to a little girl yesterday. That's what he did. She said she pulled her pants off and got on top of me and tried to put her. She's nine years old. Now, I intend to, if you guys don't want to help me, I want to take care of myself. Now, my brother-in-law wanted me to, but he's got children and stuff. He wanted me to take him down the river, and I said, no, I said, well, that's the place to it. That's the place that there's need. Now, I wouldn't be able to do this again because they wouldn't even know what happened to the scum. See? Well, because what I had done, I had to drug over. I had to spark my car by three blocks away, and I had to drug him by his throat and say, but I said, the cops can pay this. If you don't want to take care of it, I will. I told these people all I know, and I don't appreciate it. I haven't signed anything. I just got here. You don't need to do that, do it. Well, it's very, very small.
But I'm not accustomed to being thrown in a patty wagon because that is won't be my joint unlock to the bartender got there. I don't know Simon. I was shown in the patty wagon bodily by a Negro policeman and a white policeman bodily thrown in a police in a patty wagon. Would you come down here and help me, please? Because I really don't appreciate it and sit there for 20 minutes and freeze. This is, I'm not a criminal. And to be treated this way, I'm not used to it. And it isn't necessary. I'm trying to get along with them. Jesus Christ, what are you going to do, man? It's their way or none. What would you say is your interest in police work? Well, I don't know how you want to be a police officer. What are you going to say?
What are you saying about that? Why don't you go apply? What? It started you. I guess the voice of one being, what for the glory of it, you mean? No. I just want to... Is there voice out in people every time you know? Helping others then. Yes. Could you shoot someone if you had to? I really love it. Well, I suppose you ought to think about that for a moment. All right. They talk about it just a little bit. Under what conditions do you think that you might be able to handle a gun? Shoot someone. What did they get from you? Well, I got the real fool that I watched on my round head. How much money did you have in your vehicle? Well, I know it would have turned out a bit, and I know it would have worked much money. But it was something that you said, or something that you said, or something that you said, or something that triggers
a real man. Roll call. Lemon. Here. Peacock. Here. Bedjang. Here. There. There. There. There. Here. Here. There. Here. Here. Here. Here. Here. There's 708 for Janines for information on the strongarm 1622. Everyone. You've been 20444. gotten correct. All me. You went. We don't know how to feel. 20 totem tree 42. ch touristos installed inPyrene a crumbling crash. I got a week and a half rep paid here and my rig went, ready to do it tonight Saturday. I think her brother and girlfriend took the baby away during the big fight.
They slipped the baby out and they took it away someplace. And then she threw the knife at him. There's a big hole up there in the wall where she tried him to face the knife and stuck up in the wall. And then when she got it again, she would face the knife. She would face the knife. She threw the knife at him. Well, I don't mean to get started, but I had many started. She did not do it tonight. Well, now, you let me tell my call. I'll tell you, darling. And then they got away with the baby to take it someplace for safekeeping. And all broken up, it's a mess up there. You can go up there and see if you want to. And then she kept jumping on to him.
She said he's drunk and calling him dirty names and everything. Jumping on him until he finally got up. And he started yelling at her that she thought the baby was still in the bedroom. She's not going to take his baby out there. And then she ran at him, tried to stab him and he pushed her away. She threw it and he stuck in the wall. It's a big hole. I asked you this. Do you want to prosecute these people? I didn't want her back in his house. If I have to prosecute them, I'll let them rip money back. She's dangerous. She's dangerous. I knew you got someplace to take that baby. That baby's got no business out there. No, no, no. She's in my money back then. The baby's got no baby back in there. And I'll even call her mother. I'll even call her mother. And I'll call them mother. I mean, I've been married. We've been married for two years, ma'am. And the baby belongs upstairs. That's my apartment. Well, yes, we can have some. Well, let me tell the rest about the knife after something. There wasn't no knife. It was a length. She fell up to me. Yes, ma'am. She ran at him at this knife and screamed in the heart. He'd see people around here running afraid to talk. Probably they are afraid to talk.
But they all heard it. She screamed in heart and chased him all over out here and that end with a knife. And he got her with arms, tried to make a drop to the knife. And they both fell down. Oh, they're right against that fence. Right over there with those leaves off. And he finally got the knife out of her hand. And he grabbed that part of her clothes. And they threw the suitcase and busted it. And she grabbed the rest and ran down the street. Oh, ma'am, this is between now. There has been a knife. This is between now. Me and I've been at all. Yes, ma'am. She does one prosecute. And he says that she didn't throw her knife at him. That was lovely. What do we do? She didn't believe I called him. It's like she said that. They're either in strip. They're pulling a little baby. She has wet diapers on. She's sick that little baby and I'm sure she's hurt. That's the thing. Do you think? And we'll show you this. I mean, just a minute. Do you think you folks can go up there and work out your problems with that raise and pay? Yeah, but I don't like to think that'll work out. Don't worry about it. Now, if you're going to go up there. Because it's dope.
If you're going to go up there and raise pain, there's no need to go on up there in the first place. She's between all the time. I make you see. She's got it. She's scripted. I mean, that diaper raise since it's been born. Yeah, I'll fast you question. You all think I'll go back up there and act like a kid on the desk. She's just getting real requirements. Leave me alone. It comes out there. That's OK, it should be fair enough. I don't know where I'm going. You're on that phone. Well, you guys going back up there and work out your problems without fight. You know, I'm getting in the phone. I think you're going to be wrong. My kid never saying, didn't find everything in it. Why don't you come around in the front tab and see? I don't know how in the world I'm going to get in my house. He didn't threaten you or grab a hold out of you. Just grab your purse. Grab your purse. No, he didn't try to touch him. I'm kidding. And I got my dinner bag carving. I sold you all of them in there.
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Right hand. Right hand. You can either take on the Illinois life. So it's a dirty car. I didn't have any facts for it. Nine, seven, six, eight. Five, five, seven, six. Well, I'll walk over and see you. Maybe we can find your purse, sir. Where's the money to be gone? One, two, three, four, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock, rock. Thank you.
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They're all very agile. They're a lot of exceptional Paris, and they'll build for.. Connector Level with a strike 39-29 Man three other Negro males in rep Burrks at this time involved, San Barg paradox 17-iel west 1233 11. Reported disturbing technical,� 11 14y's 12th and your rear 33-25. You know something, why don't you just poke me? That's what I'm trying to do, Lord. Well, you ain't got any guts. Well, probably eight and a half. Next time you don't know that mouth. They're going to step in it. Yeah, that's Joe's end. That's Joe's end. You own business. You're one. But you're one of these days, boy. One of those days. One of those days. One of those days. One of those days. One of those days.
One of those days. God's damn. I'm going to step right here. All right, dude. You won't. That's all right. Five foot, eight and a half. Keep your hand on my shirt. How much do you weigh? Yeah, I don't know. How much do you weigh, bro? I think it's about going jail. Why don't they help them with you putting me in jail forget about them? Why don't you weigh? I don't. I don't want to learn more of this bullshit. How much do you weigh? Five foot. How much do I weigh? How good. I don't get tired of this, no. I see your eyes. They blew? No, they don't know, they hate you. Don't let them know. They're going to go down here. I don't want more. If you want them to treat me, you want me to do you want. I'll do this. So you want to go down? I'll do as long as you want. You'll take your hand on my head. Because you're right now. Okay. You're okay? Right now, leave all right. I'll treat you like a man if you like like one. Someone over here answering my question. Eight five seven. I don't over here. I ain't got a lot of time now.
Huh? I've got a lot of bush time. Now you want to get up in that greasemote? I'll get up here. Well, it seems like your radio got quiet. It's not for a while. There's a lot of calls this morning coming out. Just like crazy and then they've got. It's a sign, you know, when it's, you know, it's just like a full moon at night. People get restless when they get a little good weather and that's all. Now it's getting hot so they're staying in. Another radio is really a poppin' for a while. It ain't open. What's happened was that some of the times as far as I ain't jumped on the color, the intern went and got some other color boys. They came back. They got me a couple of boy and I. I changed. And now the change was coming was it coming out of the angle.
The lily down here. No, no, we're families to come over here. It was a good thing. It was central to get out of school. And that's all the interviews we've done. We're going to get the mill and get all I wouldn't have broke out again out of our car. I'll tell you one thing. I wish I'll be shooting at each other. I wish it'd go ahead and put gas to this to cars too. But I could have talked about it in 2015. I think all your officers would use a little conversation with me so that stuff. I don't like anybody to just jump out to it for no reason. Oh, can you say anybody? You got to use to help. Well, I feel much here during the right too, but only one of you didn't even say can. Didn't even go either. The first day, they all like to ride to the last minute. I look like a gas horse from the walking area. I would just get ready to throw it when they said stop. But like I see her all the others using the gas.
I was afraid to fill one else. She was a gas one heavy. I was at 13th in Oakland, a front line when they threw up ball at miss me about the length of this car. Man, we all suit gas. I was at 12th in Oakland. I was right there to cross that line when they had me up to control affairs in the priest. Well, yeah, but Charlie, that one preacher that come up there, did you see what he was doing? He tried to shake that patrolman. That wasn't right. Let me tell you, man, I was going to the car. He had this man's car and he had another man's car. And they chased him up here. He just got out and came up here. This man's got a new car. And the other car was a new car.
Keep it in front, man. Turn here. I'm in the near. Can you see. Have you been in here? No. Yeah, turny mover and clapping. All right, get up to us, boy. Put it in front. Put it in front. Yeah, you got it, gun. I got my mouth. It's such a butt on tail, I'll go. It's my mother. It's my mother. I can't do it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Thank you, you, put it in my little. Let me tell you about it. I got that leg.
That leg I made, Jack, man. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Come on, Jack. Come on, Jack. Come on, Jack. Hey, y'all. Hey, Jack. Who's my Jack for me? It's laying back there. You go back down to your car. We got a bunch of reports back there, okay, and I'll be there as soon as I can What do you come down back steps? Yeah, I keep you doing I kick the door. I kind of got down back steps. You've been I'll keep my door no more I kick the fella You're on people here knows you didn't chase you Howard ain't about to chase me Food hey, oh, put my jacket on the mask code. I am Oh, okay, I'll do I get that faith you want do I do I can I get a favor? You got it you got it on Say man, I'm killing you when I get out you and you look punk brothers and that nigga there
You know, you believe did I do something to yes, no success cousin brother whatever Yeah, you know what a punk is it I'm running to my car. You can stop and talk to me there's writing. I got your hand close on two This Shot yeah, I would a shot you yeah, I would a shot you back too. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna kill them. All right Pushing me, man, let's not do Man forget it give it up you ain't going nowhere I Think of that nigga with my mouth back down. I'm right how are you lost? I forget it I ain't trying to do a mother I Don't see anything important I
Me too much you have to get this that's a hint of it. Yeah, I was Say my little busted my tutors coming out nigga. Yeah, yeah, oh, you hope it does. I should have stayed there You'll be the next one. You're gonna think it's like you are I ain't stand on my What are you waiting on and I'll put your foundation back home I'm gonna put in my head through my mother pushing it to anything nigga get the hell off of me So many men here cover for tried and will you struggle the worst they're going to hurt? I know you're all your own people are mad at you they're not not I'm not a nigga What'd you say? He said you must stop them. I'm talking man
That's the word he said so many scums are living up for a while, man. Yes, shut up I Stay down. I'm not going to you again. Yeah, okay. You can't you rag off with me Take him day V.S. device. Finally 225 But any other Sit down
I'm gonna do you just like I did something cop ain't gonna call it a night what are you going to do to me he's ready me I ain't ready y'all just Gonna have a murder wrap on you ever see that in a copper again that young man you got a big mile but I Took out no cop oh You said whoever put you down some stairs to push you against the car and cut your lip My lip on that car. I'm fast shooting it, but whoever that dude do what I did the mess my gun I'm too stupid up in the back. You got a product in there in the alley. I'm gonna do something I did you want to prosecute me do it. Yeah, I'm fast people you do it. But me why you shake her and you keep your mouth shut You ain't saying what a word. It's really drastic man. No, it's sticking if I stick it. I like to break the goddamn head I'm a juvenile toy hood. You can't I'm going to get all or not. We're late
Now I don't come up with this juvenile jazz You may be a juvenile now young man, but it's not too much long and you're gonna be in a adult Your an adult you don't go to that seven floor up there. They don't pass you all your wrist They don't turn you loose to your mother and let you go home to steal again. They put you in jail And you get mine man, you get mine. You ever hear a biggie Shockley? You do it. That's what happens with my now. That's what happens when you're a thief He got too big for his own britches his own friends put five bullets You can kill this if you think about that You're not Well, uh, sorry. You ain't got coffee. I said do you okay? How many times you've been arrested this year? Oh once What's what I'll buy a brit What did you do to you? Let's go Cut your hand and choose as usual
You like you're the biggest baby in June, or My cousin I can do it to push it doesn't mean to kill it. That's a whole war But as the quiet isn't make a brief story on your resisting arrest and But then refer to the meat of the thing. In other words, the reason and so forth to report so-and-so And then they can go pull that report and make reference from you I'll go for that All right, what are you starting if you want to do that well, why I'm trying to do it make it easy on him The enemy is Everyone with her
We we can know the fire for you Hello I'm scared Linda, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, I'm just going to jump with Charlie's cough John. I don't know, she did. I'm right here with him until she gets back. She went to call John and he'll be here soon. Oh, okay. Oh, what am I doing? Just fine, I'm right here. I'm late, that is so scary, I won't leave you. I don't let it go, my head's bleeding. Don't you head on the door. I'm scared. I'm still scared. Let go, I'm right with you. You're okay. Don't raise your up, you can spot under, will you? I'm sorry. Don't you, what's your? You know, down here. Don't go, no time. Use unit please.
Yeah, why this is Charlie Rain in 2325. What they ever do with Howard Gilbert, the one at the hospital that I'm the stolen vehicle, the two getting right. They got him incarcerated. Why do you think they might do with him? And I would say so. Well, okay, I just, he wants to kill everybody. So I just, I'll be walking his trees, I'll be watching over my shoulder. Oh, okay. Thanks a lot, Sergeant. Hey. Hey. Come on, wake up. Wake up. Come on. Wake up. You know, is that a hill? Longer don't help, try to think. 2325.
Is that a wagon, north east corner, 10th and sail? 2329. 2312. He's intoxicated. Don't you think that's what might be wrong? You know what I mean? I think so. Yeah. That's Geronimo. Geronimo. Mm-hmm, that is not, he used to, he used to see what his name is. Bags. That's Bags. I saw what Geronimo by his hand. Geronimo is delighted that he's more Indian. You know, that's the Bags. Not,
that's what he's talking about. Bags is that, you know? Bags, maybe one of our tenants. I know you've seen a girl drop up down the street and just hold him, and fall him down on the sidewalk. I don't know where he stays. Oh yeah. He called me Miss Grand all the time. That's Bags. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. No town's where he's staying in Bags. Who's that is? That's Bags. I went by his hair. I thought, you know Geronimo and the Indian looking man? Yeah. No, he ain't never stayed over here. God was he couldn't at least stay all the time. Oh, look, he couldn't get up. That's taking him down your street and one. Bags. It's too late to get up. He can't get up. They ain't going to lift him up even now. I ain't going to see that. I haven't seen him throw guys in the weed. They would be starving.
They wouldn't be drunk. They'd think they'd be drunk. They'd think they'd be drunk. Why would some people leave? Yeah. What is this aim in life? Yeah. I talked to you and you didn't all go and they took her boy down to 13 and we thought, they said they're probably going to turn him loose. I know I tell you, so you can watch over the back of your shoulder.
If this kid is walking the street, he just... I miss that you'd be being through and they all know the man there. Well, he's still in the pokie right now. You're shooting down there. I mean, that's even awkward. I really wonder what the dog takes. I don't know what it takes if you can steal a car, get a couple of parked cars, no diversifies if you want to fight somebody. You know that's the exercise at this point? 15 years old, everybody. Did you see a channel line probe? Maybe you were still working dog watchin'. The channel line really kicked in juvenile court right in the teeth. They said if it just had been an adult, he'd have been taken across the street and had to post bond on something like this. But yet, a juvenile can pull this and walk all Scott free after makin' threats to kill a police in regards to his wide-ar colored. They didn't care. They wouldn't kill him a cop. Well, of course, the situation yesterday, you couldn't have...
How are they done it that way, see? I had too many people mad at this kid. Unless you're not one kid hit him and he's come down there steps. I bet he really busted him down. You bustin' there, you bustin' one other time there. I know how I got all the blood. I guess I had my arm after rounding. Well, when I ran out there the first time I was a step in, I almost dumped that kid right in the gut. See, I thought, no, this other guy is doing a pretty good job, so I just held him. And if he hit him while I told him before you got there? Yeah, one time. Man, that's what... Well, just so we came around there, this guy, he hit him twice as I came around twice. That's what I saw. And I didn't know who was who there saying that. I'm glad that you did that one party. Well, when you bet hole is one kid, it's a Gilbert. He didn't see the bad guy. Just like that one. He was your cussin' him like he was.
Oh, by the same, I wouldn't go back there to live. He didn't make no bullets. Yeah, I've been involved with the trigger four shootings he said. He'll be a Christmas present for somebody some days tonight, but he turns 17 to 14. Pick up for questioning regards to our rubbing. Pick up James by the dig in the white male. D-O-B, 10, 24, 41, 5, 10, 170 pounds. Brown ham, blue eyes, medium bill. Suspect at arm with none on pistol, and we'll resist arrest. I'll resist you just like you should have. I'll resist you just like you should have. It'll get you a littlean oldach.
Good, resist, I'll help you, and can't avoid. I don't know if you think of the door, anyhow. I'm looking for one of our officers. Look? You ready to calm down? Yep. Okay. I can't put your hand before I get you, yeah. To your name. Huh? Can't tell. Where's the building? I can't tell. Where's the building? What? Huh? There. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. Please, I'm down here. There you go. I can't tell. I'm down here, yeah. Okay. So after that, there you go. One of our boys. You understand everything? Yeah.
So. Okay. I'm not trying to fight back. I'm not trying to fight there. So I'm not trying to fight back. I'm not trying to fight back. I'm not trying to fight back. I'm not trying to fight back. Youausmithist? No Call me. Do you hear a little bit of Chosen Dhabi? Hi. What a pleasure. You guys heard more about that. So we're going to get going to get rid of all theillery. Naw, but you're all going to get because it's cammin' UNG! Yeah, Willie. That's why I'm about to butt you in the building. I just stood to the door. I fell in his cup. I stood to the door. Maybe I was about to better looking girls than you for a long time. Yeah, but naturally, he had all the fun to say. But that's true. That's true. I gave him right now, in here. I never, this one thing that I was told me, that you can go in the room if he's naked. I never did go in the room. I mean, I just stood to the door and I was going, because he kept telling me, well, come on in the heat.
I said, well, why don't you put your eyes on the heat? So let's close up and get in the paint and chew them. But I wouldn't go in there. You wouldn't. No, I wasn't. So he grabbed me. How long have you been? How long? How long? Well, I haven't. I've just got started. I've been doing about two weeks. Two weeks. Yeah. And you never turned tricks before two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. Right here. You know, generally it takes once, and you get a good education and you don't work. Yeah, that's what they're talking about. That's right. So if you're going to stay in this business, and you're going to do this kind of, thanks for a living. No. You're going to have to learn when you get blasted, you just take it with the brakes to get used. But we blast grills out here every night. Yeah. And everyone's going to have a little problem. The first time. So let's go to your room. Look, I've got time to help the first one. You have to be like that. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Thank you. All right. Yeah. What was you looking for? No.
I feel like a little. I think it's like a little bit. Oh, a little bit. OK. OK. Your name, Mary Ragland? What is your name? No, that's well. My name is Neise. That name. That's close to another girl. That's my girlfriend's boyfriend. No, but I don't mean to put something. You live in here. You just seen that over in the end of January. I'll end back with a champion. Sorry, I got to never mind. I was a thousand years.
That's all there is. You definitely were in it. Right? Yeah, but I just don't like your family. That's my closest son. You got any clothes put on? Yeah. I suggest you start putting on. Liberty. You can have to hurry up. Yeah, I'm here. Well, we've been down here almost an hour now, but I'm not married. OK. How many more girls do you know the hustle for a living? I don't know anybody but her. I don't, sir. I'm telling you. And all the girls I tell you. All the girls that wanted to meet me. I always thought this belt was to keep them away from me because I couldn't afford them going out telling nobody. Beauty?
I know Judy, you know? Well, I just met on each one. I met her because she lived over there across Holland. She just moved away from me about a week ago. And I met her when I first came up here. And I told her not to, you know, I did, she's the only girl I associated with here. In fact, I think it was a place. I don't know. I guess you did. I don't know. You don't mind if I take Judy's picture. No, I don't take her picture. Because I told them to check out her. You don't supposed to take her picture. She gave it to me. Huh? I don't need to take the picture. No, I mean, you're not supposed to get out of here. No. I just ask if you care if I had it. That's what I asked you. No, I want it. Okay. I know Judy any. You probably do. I'll show you. Because she's one and told me everything. You know, different things. She teach me how to hustle. No, she's not teaching me anything. She just, I just asked about different things. You know, about different things and everything and about. Yeah. No, maybe I always want to know about. I wouldn't learn how to do hustle. I just want to know about, you know, gel everything. She left at me all the time. But that kind of keeps them taking diseases and stuff like that. Oh, no. What do you mean, gel? Gel.
Gel. I say gel. You know, in the case you get caught. I got you. I just want to know. I asked what did you do. They do for, you know, best things like that. I don't know. Once you get caught, the hustle and you want to know what happened. So you talked a known prostitute and you want to find out about it. No, I'd like to know what I'm down here for. Now, you put me on soccer. Hey, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. You're down here for creating a public disturbance for screening like you're doing right now. Oh, is that a charge? Yes. That's a good charge. That is. Thank you. Now, would you step over there for your work? No. I'd like a better charge on that. Well, how about I go? No, huh. Thank you. I'm on my house. I am. I'm on my house. I am. You want me to go? No, I don't know. No, I don't know. I ain't going for this goddamn charge. And you put it on. Now, that junk is probably awesome. Well, why are you going to put that on me too? Okay. How do I know? I'm 20 years old, and that ain't no goddamn good.
You picked me up? What's that in the board? I'm Missouri. What state was you born in? I was here to work in Missouri, but I'll never claim it again. I ain't got nothing on it before. It searched me. That's all right. Back with six and a half, blonde hair or blue eyes. And ain't got nothing on me. But a dad was born in a machine. Right. How much of you weigh now? Oh, about a hundred and forty pounds. Yeah, I'd lie up, please. Get in there there. Where you think you weigh? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. What's that name? Well, I'm going to be in my shoes. You're hairy. Yep. Sure, man. Sure, so. That'll be true. I want, I want a lawyer. Because I get them a little rookie. Do you have any nothing but a rookie? Flat part. I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm really looking forward to it. I think three of them. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Are you a city? I'm a city. Oh, get him out of here. Oh, it's fine. Great. Oh, I don't. Oh, it's fine. Go get him out of here. PBL's second season continues with law and order in one minute. Oh, it's fine.
Oh, it's fine. PBL resumes now with part two of law and order. That's it.
You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to talk to a lawyer and have him present with you while you are being questioned. If you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you before any questioning if you wish one. Do you understand these rights I've read to you? You do understand them. Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now? Yes. Is there anything you want to tell me? No, sir. Is there anything you want to tell me about what happened yesterday?
No, sir. Good to meet you. Good to meet you. No, sir. Did you get to me? No, sir. Did you get you? No, sir. Why don't we recall there? No, sir. I don't know why. No, sir. You don't know why? No, sir. Well, why did you come back to the house when you saw us come up? That was it. I was headed back then. Oh, you were headed back then? Yeah. Well, when we drove up, is it? And what were you going to do when we went back there? No, sir. Did you go back to get you going? No, sir. You didn't. I don't know anything. Wow. Did you go back to get it? No, sir. Did you go back to talk to Geneva? No, sir. What was this other guy's name? What's that Geneva, sir? What's that Geneva, sir? No, sir. That's not a good name. What's what? That's when he read the basement. When he's on the track? Yes, sir. What's his name? Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Jim Bant. That's what I call it. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. What's his real name? Jim Bant. No, sir. You never already played? No, sir. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant.
Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Well, I know some of that news around Joe people that you showed me in the corner of Jim Bant. Jim Bant? Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. Jim Bant. And Jim Bant. Jim Bant. He never said it while he was drunk, but you can remember. No, sir. Do you get angry when you drink? No, sir. Sometimes I do. I drink a little bit, and I'll get mad. Somebody else say something that I drink. Well, have you had a drink? I go to sleep. He go to sleep. Yes, sir. You weren't sleep in yesterday. I went and drunk yesterday. He wasn't, you know what I said? Well, you just told me earlier that you were drunk.
I was drinking. Oh, you were drinking? I've been drinking that evening. But I went and drunk. I went and drunk. What about him? Did you hit Geneva? No, sir. Why not? G.S. board, didn't you? No, sir. What you called him? She called you dirty names? No, sir. Did you call her dirty bill, sir? OK, well, you go ahead and tell me what had in the house. Nothing that I know. But you weren't at the house. You're here in the house, and we grow up, were you? No, sir. Well, you were there when I grow up. You were right there at 41st of my car right in front of that house. Did you hit Geneva? Did you hit the other guy in the house? Did you grow the model out? No, sir. Who's gun is it? I don't know what he's gun is. I don't know what he's gun is. What was there in the house? It was on the floor. Who's that? Is what you need when you must do what's your name is? I don't know what we'd be able to do. Place it in New York, in New York. And then that's that. Well, why am I going to stay tonight?
I don't know what that's your problem. I didn't bring in town. Right, right, you got money? But what is the just police department doing it back to the town? What are we doing back to the town? You see what we're doing about the town? You're sitting around with that's like you're not doing anything. That's what you're doing. Then like I'm doing, I just want to help that life. Patience. I tell you, I told you coming here and report an incident. And you act like you don't want to do anything about it. You want to even send a man out to see about it. For the man's supposed to have a 38, and you want to see about it. Now, now, now what, what do the souls you're doing? Find no and Vietnam. Find what you want to go and Vietnam fight for. I was in Vietnam. I was in Korea before you was out of diapers. Don't pull that soul of your stuff on me. You understand? Well, once I go upstairs in the Marine Corps, you ain't been, I got more time to pay line and you got the child out. Don't walk. Let's check it out. Well, why don't you go back over there?
You spend so much time, won't you go back over there? What's your A-B-N? That's not good. It's not D-N, it's not. I told you, when I get around to it, I'll take care of your problem. That man will be long gone by that new go around. I get around to it, I take care of your problem. Man will be long gone by the time you get around to it. When I get time to it, I'll take care of your problem, son. We've got other things to do. We've got shootings to work on, and we've got DOA. What'd you think it was? Man got 38, and now you can set it up and talk about it. Do us in that and that, and set now to death, and ain't doing nothing about it. You guys all see these pictures, these escapees, we put it out yesterday, once it wasn't here. Anybody want to see these pictures on these lands and escapees, they don't have them yet, and they're supposed to be unnecessary. So you might pick them up after on the street, but you get through a little call to go on a look at these
or pass them around while you're going to school. Can I read? We've got one other area, when it's hard to work and late at the evening, or come at the time. That's in the area, 37th of truth, is that clothing store. There's been some young Negro males going there, and harassed the store people, and sort of tear up the clothing. So we've got two juvenile officers inside the building there tonight, in case anyone who gets any calls in that area, and we also got two of the district cars staying over. Will they be in there after the business as close? They'll be a lot of them. No, they won't tell you to like them. What time they close? Five, aren't they? Five, aren't they? They don't have to be a sharp hand, as this watch will be affected. Sorry to have any of these, do you have anything? Are you excited? Pride's already gone. Sorry to be great. All right, guys. Please now? Let's watch your language after when you're talking to people. Don't use any of these.
No, they'll do any of those about what time of the person they are, plus buddy, the closure. People take offense with them. It's a lot just as easy to call them young man or son. They take offense with that. So I know you brought that up for my benefit. It's like he did that for you yesterday when my brother was here. I've heard so many of them. It's not only you, well, like if you want to take offense at it, I didn't say anything to them or so much on the tank of pants. I didn't intend for it to. I still don't think about it real well. When you want to air it out, let's air it out together. No, I see them after the old mice is good and they may have never seen me out. Every one of us are careless in that. I tell you, one reason we are careless is that we get accustomed to talking to each other in that manner. And, of course, nobody takes offense as long as it's planned. But when we get out there amongst strangers and you use a term that,
of course, he wants to take offense about something. Usually you've got him wrong and he's looking for something else to put the blame on for what he did. And so if you come up with any term, terminology that he can do as being a fancy, even though 10 minutes ago somebody else might have said it and it didn't mean a thing, then he's going to make it to get a beef on you. Okay, though. There's nobody can take offense at Mr. or Sir Lighting. I've had him do, there's nobody. I've had him do. You will never get no trouble for it. You get trouble using a horse, so I'll tell you that. Okay, let's stop it. I'm no sense of it. I'm going to have to play in old country, boy. I don't mind treating people right. But it's a same time, I ain't going to do no balance, Frank. Don't argue about it here, local. Lieutenant, attention, right, base, fire. I've met a guy from the United States, out on the plaza, and he was telling me, well,
you really want a progressive police department, fair advancement, no favoritism towards anybody. I want a good police department that has a lot of gratuities and quick advancement. If you know the right people, you never know the right people. I don't think I'd ever want to work out there, it's too big because he draws a patrolman in 20 years later, you'd be up to trouble. They got so many men out there. Their cars aren't air conditioned, they haven't got nice cars that we have. They might start paying you a lot more, but their taxes each up out there, if you want more pay over here in the Kansas, they start there all the 705. They told me, and the guy that told me is always up on a piece, who's got the trustee that sweeps out the jail up there? No, this guy is involved in the politics of the department a lot.
I mean, very much. The jail elevator operator. No, go ahead and tell me anymore. He says, when the next legislature meets, that they're going to try to get us a starting salary of $800. They'll never do that, they'll never do that, they'll never do that, they'll even get started. I'm making $580, you're getting independent, they're wealthy. Sure am, I'm knocking down a lot of money. Man, I'm making 583 with three years on, if I went to LA, I could start at 715. Look how much it's going to cost you to live. Not that much. My brother lives out there. Not that much more. Yeah, you want to live in a one room right before you do. I'm going to answer your radio. I'm 33 quarantined in the south. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen, but it's not much Bible, but it's not much
Bible. It's one of the worst things I've ever seen. Listen, Officer, I gave the man $3.00, my chapter was $2,010. All right, when he goes around to the store, he wants me to pay him to go get the change. That is a right. Well, you didn't have change. You didn't have the change. Anyone around, if he just said to me, lady, I don't have a $2.00, he's going to make me pay him. He goes my to the store. And so I had to pay him to go out to store and make change. Now, you know that is the right. No, that's not exactly right. You know, it is the right. It is the right. You know, the rules of capital. You know, I know the rules of capital, but I don't believe it just because you don't have the change. You can make her. You can make her. You can raise me. You can raise me. Oh, you can't build it closer. Open up your eyes a little bit more. You've been drinking. Man, I had a drink for two days. I started work two o'clock this morning. Well, I'm sure if you check with your supervisors, you know, you can't make her pay
you. The camp driver brought a party to this location and he didn't have change. So he wants to get change and he wants the woman to pay him for him for her to get change. And he refused to get the woman back to the money. You know, I know there are 41. Not yet. Maybe the supervisor can speed it up and get started. What is rejoining on? Well, it's one of them is right on how. The jail transfers 12 to 10. Well, I can understand how you figure you can charge her for going to get change. He said, you're going to pay me when I go around for us. I'm not going to pay you. I'm going to call you. But I do know that man knows you're 19.
And that's a dream. You don't know what people are going to ask her? Oh, well, we've got a little problem here. Apparently this lady got a cab here to 811. He's 24. And she didn't care if driver didn't have any change. So when a cab arrived here, it was $1.10. So then he goes to $27. I mean, $27,000 shot at somebody, get some change. And drives back around here and you want set a pain. Now, that extra party center something for him going to have the goal to get the change. And she doesn't want to pay that. We'll talk it understand. Which I can't do. What was it total amount? Just be quiet. What was you talking about? Are you there if you said right? What was you talking about? I didn't. I didn't. Not ever done. Did you do that? You just forget it, man. We're sorry for the inconvenience. Well, I'm very sorry about that. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. I don't think we know all three of you.
Thank you very much. You know one with a cross-to-street crime coming across just as slow. The car was going that way and they slowed up but the car was going that way they didn't
slow. I've never seen this baby before. No sir. I don't think she can talk. She can talk. Isn't that awesome? I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry.
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I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry. I've never been in trouble my life, but don't start now.
I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry. I don't think she's going to cry.
I don't think she's going to cry. This has been the final broadcast of a two-year series produced by the public broadcast laboratory of the N.E.T. and funded by the Ford Foundation.
It is Sunday evening, May 25, and this closes PBL, second season. Nationwide distribution of the preceding program is a service of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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- Public Broadcast Laboratory
- Episode Number
- 226
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- Law and Order
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- OSTI Inc.
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- This episode repeats a report from a previous episode, Law and Order. The big city cop is he a sadist or a sage? To find out, the Public Broadcast Laboratory examined at close range a major metropolitan police force in action. Documentary filmmaker Frederick Wiseman turned his cameras on the police department of a major American city. The result was the Emmy-winning "Law and Order," a profile on the Kansas City Missouri police force in action. To make this film, producer Wiseman and his cameraman, Bill Brayne, rode in police cars for some 250 hours during five weeks of filming, working an average of 17 hours a day and sometimes around the clock. Patrolling some of the toughest parts of Kansas City, they accompanied police on every kind of call, from little child lost to grand larceny. Wiseman and Brayne followed one patrolman into a clothing store and filmed him as, carbine at the ready, he frisked three browsing customers. Two of them were carrying revolvers. The filmmakers witnessed the face of society that the city cop sees, and more often than not it was a black face: a man turned in by his wife for coming at her with a gun; a boy turned in by his father for playing hooky; an old woman whose purse has been snatched; another embroiled with a cab driver over the fare; a crumpled old wino the neighbors call Geronimo; a man beaten up; and a young couple fighting over custody of a child; a petulant youth nabbed on a charge of stealing a car and hit-and-run. As he is arrested, he mouths the most provocative of epitets repeatedly at the policeman, and swears to kill one of them when he gets out; and a little lost child, who is taken to the station house, fed candy and put in a playpen. On the other hand, when the vice squad ferrets a young prostitute out of the basement of a sleazy hotel, one of the plain clothes men nearly strangles her, deliberately and unnecessarily. Later another plain clothes man says to her, "He wasn 't chokin ' you, you 're imagin ' it. And the white faces: a bloated, middle-aged man booked on a charge of sexually assaulting a boy; a shrill female saloonkeeper whose joint has been raided; a bitter young couple at each other's throats until the squad car arrives; a cop-baiting drunk; an obese madam who sets the stationhouse in an uproar; and a young girl hit by a car. PBL commissioned Wiseman to make "Law and Order" in May 1968. He was turned down by the New York City, Los Angeles and Baltimore police departments before Kansas City came through. "Law and Order" was produced for the Public Broadcasting Laboratory in 1969 . The "Fred Wiseman Festival," a presentation of WNET, New York later re-aired "Law and Order" as episode 104. The 90-minute piece was shot in black and white. (Description adapted from documents in the NET Microfiche)
- Broadcast Date
- 1969-05-25
- Asset type
- Episode
- Topics
- Law Enforcement and Crime
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- Copyright OSTI Inc. 1969 all rights reserved.
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- Moving Image
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- 01:28:12
- Credits
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Associate Editor:
Howard, Carter
Camera Operator: Brayne, Bill
Director: Wiseman, Frederick
Editor: Wiseman, Frederick
Producer: Wiseman, Frederick
Producing Organization: OSTI Inc.
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- Chicago: “Public Broadcast Laboratory; 226; Law and Order,” 1969-05-25, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed May 18, 2026, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-512-8911n7zm54.
- MLA: “Public Broadcast Laboratory; 226; Law and Order.” 1969-05-25. American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. May 18, 2026. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-512-8911n7zm54>.
- APA: Public Broadcast Laboratory; 226; Law and Order. Boston, MA: American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-512-8911n7zm54