The Battle of Belfast

sam muth dat dat dat dat dat dat dat dat dat he's been that devil and twenty two the youngest member of the british parliament represents middle auster as a member of the independent unity party he demands an end to protestant controlling northern island and scissor fellow catholics have the right to ask help from anywhere including the irish republic again that i'm going to strike nails thirty eight protestant also a member of the british parliament represents belfast north philly ulster unionist party is in this country says to tell the truth about ulster to cover the embers propaganda of ms devon whom he describes as a fidel castro in a miniskirt this is the flag of the irish republic is the standard of supporters of messed up and demand

equal civil religious and economic rights for the northern catholic monarchy most of them also demand union with the irish republic this is the flag of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland is the standard of these other irish americans will come to support the position of the protestant majority for continued union winning when they end you are the audience for this and at special the battle of belle and i'm the concussion the irish island is divided between the catholic sell the irish republic and the protestant nor northern ireland a part of the united kingdom the first thing it's going to concern themselves with his problem was poor paid in the form who granted island as an inheritance to england's king henry the second in eleven fifty five even if the later henry the eighth hadn't found expeditions to break away from home and cause the church of england the established there it would still have been a problem of irish independence all of the

business it was to counter this but the english played a protestant colony in the town of derry in the midst of catholic ireland they put the government in the hands of the population of the city of london it became known as london's mayor and later london or the present troubles began there three weeks ago on august twelfth it was the anniversary of the defense of the city of other civilians are about to give out it is said that thirteen approaches boy's bar and the gate and sheldon no surrender and that they aren't men with newfound power went out to defeat the forces of catholic convince the second each year promising to cut his boys club with mark as one member said to show the catholics this year some of the catholics and it's reported that about a hundred residents live on science long as the first building on the largely

the police brought up armored car in the alzheimer's began rolling over on the newer era was filled with smoke and the sounds of wine at night a promise and counterattack setting homes and businesses a fire in a box on the trouble soon spread to belfast where gunfire was introduced for the first time three days after the troubles began at irishman have been killed including an eight year old boy in belfast and hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of damage had been done the royal ulster constabulary and their deputies that totally protestant these specials have been unable to restore order economy comes

back in this book restaurants for the first time in more than a year i called upon to keep these within the borders of the british is the last time that i also when i was in the bloody nineteen sixteen easter rebellion in the path of a couple of two by the terms of a home will address the nineteen forties but suspended because of world war one unified island was doing rubbings of the protestant often rejected this and came close to civil war themselves in nineteen twenty one twenty six it became the irish priest a leader out later the irish republic and the remaining six became the united kingdom on northern ireland what

was an easy case of the past forty years has been broken off the reins of the outlaw irish republican army and most recently the friction growing up catholic civil rights movement beginning last october seven hours a day and the british hopes the continuing battle remains to be resolved in belfast the seat of a government representing the one million protestants a majority and not it is charged by catholics representing their five hundred thousand member minority of guests are guests again our bernadette devlin and the nw struck knowles and three

and if we may win like to begin with each of our speaker's taking a minute and a half to state their differing positions svetlana fuel first place my position isn't a brief i would like to correct you first ever present catholics of northern ireland and represent the civil rights movement in non violent than one individual member of parliament i have taken the stand that have been forced to take because the union this government has removed my country or fifty years it is rude it correctly is rooted on fairly therefore as one individually under the control of that government i have a democratic right in a democratic and supposedly christian society to voice my grievance and to have my grievance head and acted upon by my government therefore not it but my government is represented by mr stratton those is on trial but you know i find myself in the position i think has been most responsible people don't know

about him of being immensely saddened by very many of the things that have happened in the last month which frankly i would not have believed possible that this would come about terrible things that happened at people have lost their lives protestants and catholics both i can speak with experience of the being behind the barricades and both parents brought us some of the cafeterias might say this too with all the sincerity i can i'm like man that the fear is there on both sides no side isn't a monopoly on probably no side has any monopoly of the rights and wrongs of what happened in those events of the last month a top level inquiry headed by british high court judge is to go into that and see what's to be what do what happened during this terrible time it welcomes the words of james keller and the british film sicko record on board people to reduce tension and increase

confidence so that life can go on and he says of course and i agree with them that ninety five percent of the people about lived together peaceably though i think i'm looking at those pictures this evening that would not have been the impression you got an idea fast ever to throw her weight in the civil rights movement and that movement she represents to get the barrios dunham bucks an hour much less without question from this on a number of points and you have in fact states that the fact of the inquiry you did only however that the inquiry came from the british government i'm not from the northern ireland government as you did in fact give mr callahan statement you're limited to point out to many americans used to come on as a homesick for the british parliament who has much against the will of the union as government foisted his demands of reform on them had ever again you have omitted to point out the fact that these are promises promises which we have been

hearing about it since the faithful to one promises from which no machinery has been put into effect to make really meaningful one would admit we do have an ombudsman we are having one man one vote following the most sophisticated gerrymander of the western way to make sure that votes do not kind and i would like to stress that i am not talking about catholics and protestants i am quite sure that the fear being the catholic barricades in the protestant barricades to see my argument with the government is not solely its treatment of catholics what its reason for active discrimination for catholics and i would point it at this stage a letter from the british ambassador in washington an answer to a letter to mr michael stuart the foreign secretary if i may quote insensitive as he says i mean the point is that the problem is a great deal more difficult than you give credit for iran but if all you ask is a frank admission that

anti catholic bias as being present in northern ireland then you may certainly have let my argument is not nearly at this anti catholic bias has come not from prejudice only off misguided people are frightened of that opposition is common very legislation of the government and has been used not simply because they don't like catholics to create a marginally better position for the protestant working class one nine show mr menzel admit that there are no slums worse than the slums of shanker that in factories where people are paying almost thirty three percent less than their fellow workers in the rest of the united kingdom one doesn't ask when they're getting their pay packet of a catholic a protestant what worries me is not that they are either catholic a protestant but that they are grossly on the head and that the government of northern ireland as deliberately minty and ohio unemployment position in order to keep a pool of cheap labor and in order to secure the support of the protestant working class which ordinarily would not

support such a government they have to create a marginally better position for that section of the community much as in the position of the block and the poor white in this country the protestant working class support the government not for what the government to give them a full fear but they might want to have a catholic working class because they realize as all of us realize that if things are to be shared it only with people at the top are going to pot with nothing though for the protestant working class would suffer alluring and standard to get equality to catholics this is why no one in conscience asks was simply catholic equality because we will not see our fellow protestant irish men suffer either mr mills daily questions from this panel and they're not like you know it's an observation is pointed instead restating positions if we could hold these positions between the two of you i just say something about the

fifteen or seventeen accuracies in the remarks ms devon them but could i don't want to wait for the right three questions first if i had been collecting fifteen or seventeen interactive sees political i've been asked by the chairman two and ask you a question asking questions if in fact chairman allows me to go over these sixteen seventeen points and i've got to do that i packed up some of them well in the book to get to those later i refer to him as the three questions right thing that i think that's on the record the state and why is it that them benedict devlin has refused to implement this agreement which was drawn up last week between the british government between the northern island government supported by the roman catholic cardinal and which the british home secretary said when he announced the air in a joint state and jim collins words where he gave a warning that extremists on both sides will try to stop people living in peace they were acting without any sense of responsibility and i can be equally the activity

of the reverend ian paisley who i understand is coming to this country and does not speak for the bulk of unionists in northern ireland an isi condemned and a bit different who has been abruptly refuse to support this and getting down tensions my second question is does confirm is that one as well the reason is the second question would you prefer to have the questions answered on my answer to that question is quite simple people in a bauxite which is the area which i was personally concerned with put up the barricades as a method of defense they put up about it it's because since the fifth of october they have suffered at the hands of the police the police have not be at in a disciplined fashion as the guardians of the piece and you will remember to be your portraits the government has as yet refused to publish an impartial inquiry into police behavior carried out by a policeman on the behavior of policeman who allegedly went diving the likely voter wrote

in a slum area off bauxite consisting mainly of young families and old age pensioners attack these homes and verbally abused intimidated and frightened the people inside afraid that location approximately one thousand policemen entered the bog side and attacked people on the streets and these people are frightened they have no great political reason for keeping up those barricades except that they know did take those barricades down after fifty years unionist government this is why when the units government promises anybody anything we like to see it in action first we've had fifty years of promises promises aren't kept if you think anybody in the bauxite is going to take the word of the government that there would be no a crisis when those markets combine where the northern ireland governments to ninety in six bishop i say when one individual

in derry mr william obama in this bit so for the marchers from each o'clock to twelve o'clock in the morning was arrested charged try to find good day saints sentenced to six months' imprisonment he could produce his employer's evidence that having received an industrial injury he was in hospital he could produces doctors evidence is refuse by the police in victoria station to call ontiveros was not irrelevant isn't this a shining city cases shows most case with the greatest respect ms jerman going into a detail respective case using it but rather an emotional terms not giving the facts on that i mentioned i want to point out of course that was the right of appeal for him and his new wife or anything organizations are signs that i just say this is john we'll accept that that there is no right for anything but we have to accept this ability that we haven't ours

that our audience was especially true fucking what effect you start off by sam was first of all let's just never have asked some questions to me and then you suggested i asked some questions she in fact now as going into a long monologue in highly emotional times on this i would not ask might be to take down the barricades because to do so would be to ask might be to allow themselves to be walked all for my unionist government and by the police force we have had fifty years of broken promises fifty years of no promises fifty years of active discrimination and you think that after fifty years because to commence my name with a weakened can be trained to you for fifty years hadn't the gods to make you behave yourselves if you're going

to say yes sir not on your life take away this patient and give us the right to look at lower courts if were brought to court and we might consider women were trying to get as much substance in this program as we can so you would please limit here's what could i say this is no sentimental does seem to me that most of them is getting them to show time in getting very vague ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha she's had her essay now that that may impact along it with things i want to put on record he'll be and you insisted on asking is that one of the questions you one answer the question as in the end the question i want to ask you go into a number of the matter is it open discussion later on the points that people have raised on this and have a damn i think a quick debate on the point backwards and forwards rather than a

long monologue could i say this they're that because devon has come to america yeah which she says to collect a million dollars the young from the switch i don't know she i hope is not going to try and use the emotional arguments of people in distress or whether they be protestant a catholic but she's not going to use the emotional argument for political purposes and it seems to me that she has rather dragged into a great deal of other things playing on human sympathy in this country and she has done this which i think is really prosecuting the whole appeal which is making here that belonged to put the sauce on record it has been said that these funds are to be administered by ms devon she has given she has given her own personal insurance of course is that she has said herself that she's broken the oath of allegiance which she took in the british parliament which are so or taking the queen so that one just doesn't know how much weight placed on

the lincoln for instance that one should never respond on the question of firms and i hope that you won't have this fund and minister really out of them with that out of our own back pocket of what this way one doesn't know she says that the money won't be used for arms i would be much happier if this money was handed over to independent government to use her arms independent body apple the one in belfast set up by the leaders of the churches of which i myself don't have contributed this i think we have much greater weight and i think it would create much greater confidence that this wasn't going to be used either for their political purposes or medical purposes and i make my position clear ms germain is quite naturally doesn't trust my position but as i say i am only one person and when that he trusts me or not is a matter

of individuality but whether people would trust his government or not is a greater question on it depends the lives of people i have come here and i have quite honestly statehood why i have calmed that i've had two reasons and coming to explain the struggling island is not catholic versus protestant because the fighting took place between the people of the catholic slum area and the state and very few feet ordinary protestant population became involved in it i stated my own political position and steve have come here to collect funds for relief that i would give up personally guaranteed no none of these funds will be used for violence and if i were to discover that they were that i should make a public statement and demand an infinite has advanced within minutes i should come i should come to that the money is at present in every city i have visited frozen in a bank to

kind to be transferred to a bank account in ireland and i would find it we are wondering whether infected see if northern ireland such as our trust in our government and there they are when the money is frozen the civil rights association does a perfectly i don't believe even mr callahan your great friend called that irresponsible body we set our proper administration to see that this is administered to all of those in need irrespective of their religion one thing we do not want to see is the rebuilding of the rebuilding of our country on the lines i am answering the question and when this ban on please please please to read to redress and say gentlemen to redress that the water is now an imbalance of time i think we must go back and to know you yes i find that answer

very very unsatisfactory and raises i think a great ballad from many of the irish americans whose knowledge of islanders based on the picture of island of the last century that they in fact believe that this money is going to be used for political purposes i slide my right and you are the us the usual going to administer i can tell you audie is different or would take who is chairman of the civil rights association is a person who we have the right in fact orders instead of acting this point the money is and i can infer if you want me to go through city by city tell you where each of countries in which i'm running a week and i just say on this newspaper would be the chairman of a civil rights association has come to america and he said two weeks ago integrate in an interview with the daily mail that he was in constant touch with the ira and this is

the man who as a state that is you know we're getting to the truth no must've known as devil's ago woody may well be in constant touch with the ira but is mr gul bibi's brokered of may i point it that this john mccain could say on television in northern ireland with the british army and it's interesting to note that it is the supporters of the british union don't want the british army at this major changes jurgen klopp troops were rejected sister clark who wants peace what he will not accept direct pretty shrewd mr shanker defense association could say the british are making of all of the special bonds they want we've got literally hundreds of whom this man is not uncommon she had fun making a statement that one of his initial price act on it are the ground rules of those debates in the coming rapidly nonexistent that there is one ground rule out like to stick to i would like that's the question

this issue it seems to me has been increasingly and find my personality and also indicated emotion is there anyone major substantive one on which you two are united but yes even northern ireland are too cruel and the government is too rich silly hats and that's a somewhat superficial comments what i would say is this bad that that i think it i would hope that i'd come and run with ms devon on this is that no i think that i hope we have more common ground than another matter as well as and that i hope we have a common ground i repeat this where what really needs are responsible politician some of rebel rises and i hope ms connolly and it were vet them emotional arguments air the building up of hatred which i condemn by the extreme partisans as much as i condemn them by ms deborah

yes i would the timeless long haul as you know each of you to summarize your position i know it's increasingly difficult summer your position in a scant thirty seconds putting them might want to make this you know since i started with canals well that's a very courteous invitation and i would say this that i referred to him as diplomats of fidel castro in a miniskirt and the reason i did this i am going to expand on in greater detail at a press conference in the new york press club on friday producing documentary evidence of this but i want to refer both to the statement by the catholic youth society and at belfast this morning saying that roman catholics have been exploited by extreme left wing and subversive element the resignation of the circuitry of the civil rights association because of the extreme socialist revolution is and i think that this put some question the whole credibility of the building was i haven't been

putting in this company on the flight i must exercise a time when the nation is that women probably not come gray has been for fifty years that we have lived in an unjust society we have lived in poverty we'll ask the government for economic and social justice for fifty years it has been refused then it seems only one piece was solution solution which the union is government has refused that is to abolish stuart and to institute direct route from westminster until such time as the whole problem of the irish question can be solved the cry of the government has always been auster is british and this is a peaceful solution and get it as the time pryor supposed to his british leyland not accept direct pretty shrewd thank you it's b

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