Northern Gardening; Josef Braeu

It's time for northern gardening here and. Welcome to the first edition of Northern gardening here for the spring summer. Support for northern gardening comes from Evergreen originals green house located at 16 sky port lane in grammar A. Open the first week in May evergreen originals offers annuals and print heels for our northern climate information available in person or at 3 8 7 2 8 6 2 in local programming is also supported by box hardware or books radio shack of Grand Marais providing direct TV satellite systems and Globalstar satellite phones on the web at Buck's electronics dot com. Well I'm your host for this next hour on PAULA Sunday. Glad to be with you and on the phone with us is Joseph Broadway and he's with the Edelweiss landscaping a nursery in Duluth Joseph thanks so much for joining us.

You're welcome. Thank you. Well Joseph is here today to talk with us in particular about conifers and certainly other plants that Jim well in this northern shrubs and other plants. And so just maybe you could tell us a little bit about your landscaping business and yourself and how you got interested in starting a landscaping business. Oh okay. Well I've been doing this since of about 14 years old or younger. And I grew up in. Oh trust been part of Germany right on the border. I'm going to screw it up on the trail and Germany. They crunched on a boat and they are known in Germany. Course I traveled all over the world and for different parts of the world. And some in the cochon nothing not a culture that predominated don't have the culture you know. And I kind of got our nosh and they stuck you

up to do it. The great hole in our show is the great beautiful area of course it's a challenging situation and growing plant a native and non-native. And so I kind of got more into the on a mental factor of like. True of conifer. Some of the unusual plant material in like Magnolia is Princeton sort of bend on sale here. Do have a few native one here and it still has that very very few. So I kind of took this as a challenge and kind of developed and actually came across a lot of unusual kind of which I

know not the richest and usually very hard to find. But in our area it is going to be an abundant big one what causes the formation of the which some some is genetic. And mutation. Some can be caused by lightning strike. The rich can change sometimes the genetics. Volatility is the briars disease parasite rich and mutate part of a tree. And it Kirsten distich are then and have agreeing. So it doesn't make any difference in what situation. And how do you use those witches brooms and they predominately would have to be crafted onto a distinct PC and they can be a variation of the PC

and depending on the foil tie and particular area. Like they've been in the pine. Five metre pine you would have to save your find of it just as the five needle that has to be grafted onto a five metre pine bill that is so important you can't really change thing. You can cross them on them like that one to take. From the truth. See the collection and the crisis occurring natural process and usually between the scene not the friends and your but not prosperous but as opposed to his and I dispose of it. Blue suppose as the Serbian supposed Yes they can breath and you

can get years and through that a lot of other things occurring is like Golden Gate and foliage rather at the need of a tree or a tree and some of it is. Genetic mutation at random and some There's no reason or rhyme. You know we all of us try to explain everything but this seems to get through to a certain crossroad and stop so so are you intentionally doing some crosses and. For these things how long does it take to see something to do. Sometimes to find a gem state to find something and special in the need to be crossing different varieties of conifer that say I can take any of us from Fife to twenty

feistiest before you find out what you have. And from time to you sooner. Yeah now and from a standpoint of like ever just those I would call a moment and then ratification because you graft them onto the stock which is conducive. Oh is this you know the proper type. And sometimes you can have losses and not to it as not all of us accounting done to work. You know which is being designed for the bonsai I didn't know what the can I mean but dominate it. Richest woman in the in the crown of all it is a mutation of some species and they crafted it and because sometimes they keep compact or twelf a miniature form but

sometimes them and craft that they accelerate. So when you saw them on a tree being just perfectly round. Football and to just it's fantastic just great. And then use that crafting them in a boat maybe two between two and priciest down the road. All of a sudden you look at SS already knowledge this thing is really taken off you know it was really a tongue in a cute little thing and then all of a sudden you know growing a foot a year. Oh dear. So that can happen to you. Still state of impact will stay compact and thick. Oh yeah oh yeah. I have so many kind of be a few hundred different varieties and some are miniature they only go like inch to two inches a year and you know and so if you have just a tiny little tree and about 10 20 years and maybe only a foot tall. And so it's. Say a collector item 2.

But also. Mark the day and landscape setting you don't never have to do anything that you know it stays compact you can use it in an area where height is that is an issue and then you get rusty get that beautiful texture from oh winter fall you know any time of the year and some a day for instance and one of my favorite is the Korean for so many different variations of it to some of them but the need of control of it and would she a contortion of the need to chose the underside and it becomes deliberate. So when you look at it from a distance it's like it's still a three to green and then golden. They have splashes of gold in and of course in the end of time and the few evergreens which are

green and a summer time in the spring and the fall of torture and colder temperatures come about to turn color turn toward like a beacon it's like a beacon and a fog that told a gold color needle and it's just some of the gem. Yeah that's us. But you know if you've just tuned in we're speaking with Joseph Broida he is the owner of I devised a device landscaping a nursery he and his wife Debbie have owned and operated the business in Duluth since 1979. Appreciative to have Joseph on the show with us this morning and more than gardening and if you got a question about growing conifers you can give us a ring here at the Studio 3 8 7 10 70 or 1 800 4 7 3 9 8 4 7 and Kristi will be out there to field your call and pass it in. And actually I do have an e-mail question that somebody sent an if you can e-mail it real

org and. She wanted she planted last fall actually last May. This particular woman planted two dwarf a Norway spruce and she kept him well water despite the drought and mulch around them keeping the mulch well away from the trunks. But both Bushes have one side that's all brown except for green the current So she's worried about what caused this and what she can do to save them if possible. Just got any suggestions. Yeah it is probably the reflection off that they know and to some people it may be the outcome of having small effect but it also can have an effect on the economy for us especially around March-April rund. To climb up into horizon direction off the sun hitting that that true up

a little evergreen it is and it's not that I have a reflector Nanda and that crosses that dehydration factor. So it's just like. A person out there growing in the land of sun and got a tan and don't put any protection on they are any lotion. And your skin will be high trade and and return a bit of burn and I have the same effect on a needle. Shop saw that can be a factor and so is this. These shrubs or they say you know salvageable or double Yeah. Yes my suggestion would be is to wait till it dries up a little bit more so and then just take your clothes and brush the shrubbery a little bit and then you expose falloff and there should be new growth accruing commision about that tree through the so on to get some rainfall he can see new needle new growth being

pushed all pushing and by August you won't even remember what what took place because of the old green again. How about for the next winter then as far as protecting it from it's called it the heat that the thing is that doesn't happen all the time. That if you would know when and how to do it. I probably wouldn't have to do it. Well I know about because I can go out and just you know teach people to do this and that you know. And talk about it but if you don't know if you don't we don't know when does is going to occur and I can tell for instance when does this season came about and you know fall into winter that we're going to be in some really serious problem and of course when we get that late snowfall it does and it even does damage to it in ditches. Trees out there.

He contrives around it can see some areas to read. Especially the south side of the tree. So best site is burnt it's nice and red. Well we call it rustic red you know and so. Sometimes it might be called a non tree which is more what they call intolerable to that kind of condition and much more than the one to just tolerable to it. Now I've noticed in travelling up and down the shore and in particular at sea I was I was driving over to Hibbing last week and I noticed that along the way there were some long stretches of trees on either side of the road. In particular it was red pines that had suffered badly quite a ways out of the tree knows that from sunders also does salt have a factor and some can be a factor and all but when you look at the tree when you go to look at say 25 or 30 feet up. I do not think that the salt spray will travel up that high.

Dead is a fact of no snow cover. Son and Vin. I mean you get those you know 50 mile an hour gusts coming in the middle of January and they get and carried out a nice warm tropical air from the Arctic to the trees. You know when you get that warm air during the day when the temperatures climbs up the trees are not really tall man does then my draw meant and thought Why am I up. And is this oh well it's spring and then the Transporation that you know that they breed and by breeding and that is really smart and in fact the they become dehydrated and become dehydrated that burn. I mean that's just like. You know it's like posting in the sun. I guess that's a great analogy.

I mean that's just not the whole story it's just like you're opening up a vendor and there's a section of the rich brew on. Well be heading to having again later I'll be interested to see whether they are green back up again. Yeah I mean what do you mean you know it again and all of a sudden you know you have gone that direction again take a lot and you'll be able to hold on while it doesn't look so bad after all. Now again if you just tuned in we're speaking with Joseph fry from landscaping nursery in Duluth and I'm looking at the web page which is a device nursery dot com and looking at your list of stock and in particular with the conifers you have an enormous list. Can you tell us a little bit about some of the specific conifers and you know what and I guess this would actually take quite a while to read through. Probably not for radio talk

but even just looking through some of the various different types of fur you know you talked a little bit about the Korean for and there see there are several different kinds What is it what are the different aspects of some of the different trees very tall or bold to swampy area like our native which is you know a de ice age and not very tall about in despair and them also. And our you know didn't see or hear of them for us. And but they all set up the book to try to condition. And so drawing some of the other. Some people call them on us and you know that's just beautiful. You know it depends on how many and many as you want to talk about yeah

but going back to the first. Limit of what you call it. They're not this big. Most of them maybe get like 15 to 25 feet tall. So it did become more of a bought the plant because it keeps a nice beautiful structure and it's very adaptable to our climate like cold climate and for us to range from. The northern part of North Africa and through Siberia into China I mean Japan dead everywhere. And so when you know all what climate. What to call the viability and necessity to act this time and if they

can be adaptable to our climate. Go for it. So if you're looking for particular furniture you probably wouldn't want to put it on a slope south slope. No it wouldn't do very well they're no good at. They actually taller are able to more shade and then some of the other. For instance an example of blue supposed to need full sun. You put up blues pose in the shade. Just post office allowed to become like a Charlie Brown tree. We're just rife in that. Yeah now let that kind of an and famous pine trees just the same thing. So they need to be the most wonderful sun you know. Yeah but then there's always the exceptions to the rule and not the thing I should maybe touch on you know some people you know evergreen Well evergreens which are just such of us actually like the large. March

to Sequoia sodium which is what they're called that this type of tree down in Florida. Also many different variations of that. Just a quarter of a DJ is what they call Don Redwood. People thought that was totally extinct. And of course a lot of them are found in China. Actually a lot of conifers and a big pot from the Asian area so I would say roughly 80 percent of the plants I can think of from minor Asia into the Mediterranean region. And some of them do well here are dead to death in about the most of the stuff you got wiped out and the last ice age. OK now and I don't know if anybody remembers that time that I was about 14000 years ago I don't know.

No no. Too early for me but I mean it's really interesting to me to study the area see and hear what the what's happening in the north shelf and you can see a lot of damage from the tribal Dia's and Poppy 10 15 years ago and all the birch trees a lot of Portuguese pretty much you know and some of the right area you know as we talk about some of the nutritional needs for conifers it one of the things that the ice age did was removed a lot of our soil. In fact we really technically don't have soil We've got lots of gravel. Fine fine gravel and gravel. And is that a plus then for some of the conifers. Well yeah there are adoptable. I mean you can look at it does a lot of prying and for which I'll pine a reachin one

a native mostly to Colorado New Mexico and through Wyoming and Montana and a business which is the for all pines as the veriest of some of them are green and soft very soft forge almost looks like a bruise but this. And then some. Clover. And of course still some mutations are quite a number of occasions but I have a couple of them on a boat a house in NJ and just little tiny little thing. Now though there's an example of data which you know I would consider like going or showing off some of the areas of any of us to walk in on this. Almost like an Alpine region now and it gets pretty hot in the summer. Much moisture and a lot of these trees up the ball. Yeah you know your condition.

Well when is a good time to start putting some of those interviews start looking through the catalogs or oh stopping in May. And all of them and. Their little girlie. Yeah we had a caller actually that called him with a question. Wanted to know what the date of the last of the average last frost when it's safe to put out tender Aniela's but that also effects like when you're transplanting shrubs. I kind of laughed when I saw this question because it seems to be the ongoing question. Yes pinned on your in your particular microclimate all up and down the shore. Oh yeah absolutely. I don't know you know Duluth is going to be a little different in Cook County. Oh right I mean you can you know for instance like you know in Crown Marie down by by did a lake that day you can go almost stone by plants and you go up on the Hill and forget it. You know you just climbing up the hill and you may be 10 15 minutes up

and be a different road altogether. Yeah yeah and that was just a phenomenon and that's a fact but I grew up in an hour and a valley and you know your claim of 500 feet of what it would be about but I wasn't speed up and to be complete different you can see the change already in the tree and the mad O's and all that. Then you go up further you hadn't got into the snow line. Yeah and so I had. Fortunate to grow up from a stop tropical climate but just like a stone seven to eight and some even higher even I you know and then and also in the Alpine Region which is the Zone One. Yeah interesting to see that contrast and made the role for an hour you know. Yeah well you know all that and I know people tend to quite come brand tell you you have to travel if I was a mile you know.

Yeah that's right. Yeah. I had a question too as far as putting in conifers and other shrubs too. If you mention putting it in mid May early May. What kind of preparation do you need to do. You are digging a hole and you hear things like all the hole should be you know twice as wide and twice as deep as the rip all and what kind of preparation to the rope ball go through that process. Yeah he's going to have a five gallon container which is probably about 18 inches by you know 12 to 16 inches. My suggestion on that is to get twice as wide and this thing depth that contain most of the time the plant and fantasize that don't quite go that far down maybe two thirds in a pot you know depending how old the plant is you know in that container. But I did my

the most people that the mistake to make is that planned I'm too deep. Yeah well down and down and that's a fact that demise some time you know. Nandu conifers like some of the other trees need to have a fair amount of roots almost exposed on the top of the soil. I mean you see that when you're walking through the woods. Yeah yeah you know that hands again at planning and to Divya plant plant to be to be used to having dinner with the boss you know and visit. Oh man I gotta cover up those who would talk to Keith. I can't you know that that's going to hurt that plant. Well what actually what you're doing is just my doing the plant did you kind of joke and put in like a choke hold on it. And so it goes what just fine you know if exposed like that is just fine. It's important that the whole other part of their what system is you know cover it.

Oh another factor. Men men people mall or tree or shrub Ariel and invent what it is. And do not bring them all each to the trunk and leave the couple inches away from the trunk and tape but maybe tape it up and then on the hour the side maybe you can go to a tree and just eat. OK so what did the roots need to hear. Yeah it is still important. You know what it is that you know you brought up and sample and when you look in and force and see all the stewards sitting above if you take for instance where does the hiking trail and you can be. I would guarantee you if you put a path through data for a continuous time period of time. Those trees really close by which they do what they've been trampled on and the story has been

compacted tree Velo the goal. Yeah we'll die. Now what about like LA Times you will want to plant flowers right up to the base of a tree. You know whether it's a plant you just put in the garage or you just put in the ground or a mature tree at their companion planting. Too. Like for instance this for trees. Those opposed as I would any little bit dicks on hand. They stay only as in Odenton coming in through the Keys. Then Hatter is another one. Some. Ground cover which fence and ditches that they have buried in the ground cover which is lent itself to be there now it is slowed down and I'm competing plant down some plants out there which are very competitive meaning put out a toxin

to the plant and will eventually kill anything around them. So it's important to know that a welcome visit and not competing meaning are not taken over and crossing a shade onto the plant you really don't want to have a focal point. Yeah well we're going to take a quick little musical break here and then come back we were speaking with Joseph brought with it a biased landscape in restoring your listening to Northern gardening here on WTOP. Imma be back in just a second. With.

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website w w w w org to access business news. As I mentioned we've got Joseph Roy on the phone with us with a little biased landscaping nursery. We're talking in particular about conifers and other shrubs and we kind of branch into some of the other was a bad pun I'm sorry to go to some of the other shrubs that somebody did call in with a question. They evidently have received some current bushes and they're a low concern because it is too early to put them on the ground but they're wondering if they could stay longer in their crawl space they've got their roots wrapped but should they try to put them out right now or what are your recommendations. I haven't but I doubt you know if this still tight. Meaning the Dunton folded she had exposed. So in that moment and then at that point I would just. He had to find the spot but the crowd isn't frozen out and he'll

Amanda ground meaning out to get trench and laid them and have been an angle and they do it and then cover the soil and then when you finally have your spot if you have a fundamental spot you can find them idea. But if the foliage has shown already and can be shown to freezing a day public can take about 28 degrees. At that juncture you're not showing some foliage. I mean if it's been outside Yeah but if they've been packaged and on a ship then you get them in a box and they're ready have to foliage on there and you can let him outside during the day but at night time put them in the summer away from and be free. Yeah so putting him even temporarily in a little pot or something right putting him back and forth.

Sure yeah you can do that put him back and forth. Because he's still getting called Knight My turn the still photos and again this morning. So yeah kind of. And speaking about that I have brought adventure on a large leaved one. I mean it gets really cold I just look out the window and start to curl up. I don't even have to look my on the temperature because I already know it's way below freezing. Well that's kind of and soon as it warms up down folds I mean and become straight again. Well I didn't realize that you could grow rhododendrons so I always skip that middle area. The door and up the door and the relief leapt into it and a smaller leave left the door key. I d o t e. The smallest one and I lived on the p i d o t. And some people think

I do not quite understand what do you with that. Well I do have an accent I think I was a little bit so it was supposedly likely But having said no. If people have some question about things they can me email and be have time will answer it and any questions they may have. Info at a device nursery dot com right. Oh yeah. Did endurance an azalea is good then the hardiness of pretty much a lot of them are hard he does a lot of new a variety is the new deduction. Some from people looked in the catalogue and it was based on that. Actually it is a it is an ordered and rated us H1

H2 and H3 age 4 and of course the sports that like a tropical. So we got a look at what age were on so I don't know yes I mean what does the H stand for. I didn't. K. Yeah yeah so do I have a different tone classification they go like each one is from 30 to 40 below 0 and then 25 to depending on and then age to 20 to 25 and so on before then some of the mounted takes 0 you know. Yeah that's meaning at you know they're not going to do well here you're sitting 30 to be but there are quite a few of them from China Korea.

A lot of followers say oh yes actually cooling and going to ride it cold there it gets really cold. A lot of people don't realize that. How cold. Again that's because elevation too isn't it. Elevation along to to have nodded to it you know. And so it's our plus that we had back Oh absolutely because that adaptable to our climate and so many of them out there they have not even been put it they discovered all they've been discovered but they only been in the last hundred years so 50 is too hyper to station. There are some out there which have. Much the same look of love or Dorothy you know in the swamp. Some of those though. And the from from Mike to feed.

Four and a half to two feet high and by three feet up to you know 10 20 for this year and that a lot actually stunts of cost and be very large and oh so little bit more finicky because they need that kind of sun protection meaning like that exposure one has the knee gets a nice scorched ditty. Yeah and so they need to be protected from that of indoor sun. Do they need a lot of sun in the summer. Chris Nolan's No no they can they can take the sunlight. They don't need to be in full sun. So yeah they're in a more cd so my CD spotlight right now is to get about three four hours if used on I'd just just efficient for them to flower. So that right that's why they're a good match with contractors. Yeah they could be used as a backdrop to say you have conifers phasing

out so it's west and you can put those up but he's laid off from the north east side even and you all have a very good combination. Now are the Israelis also sensitive to sun exposure north knoll because well that depends on if it's an evergreen on. Yeah and this if you have a green alias which I already hear and they can take the 20 25 below and I just thought hard you know you know that the but. Did a.. Even I found it 30 below that a.. Part yeah. So they had a little lower growing them on liken it to a tree for the range when they mature. The other day the smaller leaf to one which is a lot of people. I referred them to pgm.

Well they come pgm come from white drooping to a lab and a deep lavender profile and the deaths of many different varieties are now. A differently shaped structure. And they can take a lot of bald sun and they can take 35 but over without any problem. And at this temp. So we're talking about some of these different varieties and you know we get it you know. Certainly there's various different landscaping nursing nursery places like yours your own people can go to to purchase but then there are also a lot of catalogs do you have any you know a lot of the catalogs do they necessarily have that variety. Sure sure some of them have to variety but here's the deal. You get these beautiful pictures and cataloged in on the show your nice mature plant. And the plant has a 25

45 bucks. You know he's always just looked beautiful I'm going to have one of those one of them. Oh don't. Oh honey look at that one. There's really cute and then then the prime and I get them in the mail and when they get them looking at the plant you know. So it's if you're a collector and have that we'll plant. A dandy end up having to pay a lot of money for it and then you're going to get the small plant you want to get the yearling through Ealing which you know maybe two or three branches and you know two inches tall and. You know you can. Buy them through the mail order or you can come here and say oh gee I should have come here in the first place. But it's nothing like the variety that you have but it's not such a bad idea. Yeah.

Go ahead I'm sorry. At that time. Well you know one thing I wanted to mention quickly on again that and all the plant material out there is that the structure of and that beauty that the shape prints and some of the conifers will have specially some of the first science and rather my Again one of my favorite is that cookbook. Purple flowers. And a purple. And just to stand out like a beacon of light. Just why in a pro-bowl all around the top of evergreen. But I shall. Yeah. That density of them some of them have been needed. I would say close right on to that branching structure and that looked like going in a 45 degree angle. And it's so tight. And then friends and some of the pines perched in need

of you know six eight 10 inches long and the bright idea of string pine needles when you touch them they feel like a porcupine not green it's not there looks very very nice. But don't get too close to the bone as you talk about some of the plants that are growing in particular for birds. You know certainly the obvious is growing fruit trees where the birds maybe can eat some of the fruit that you or at least you want them to eat it as opposed to when they're you want their fruit. How about for the conifers are there benefits there as well. Oh definitely put especially conifers if you're into being on I would like to have a lot of songbirds to natter on in your yard if you don't have many conifers. They're not going to stick around for a long while to come to your feeder but then I'll run off again. It's nice to have some kind of forest close by. The

coast is basically a sanctuary for the birds that nest from some types nest in there. Some used to refuge it is like a security blanket because you want to find. Somebody at the enemies. You know those little boats. I want to fly into those three because that too Dan. Yeah and so they can find refuge also when it's cold and windy out there. I can look out my window and I'm happy if you have a kings really close by you can see I'm all huddled up inside and out trying to stay away from that cold blowing wind. Well and so if you had a big open expansive yard and in expected to put a bird feeder out in the middle of that you probably aren't going to get very many birds. So planting some kind of furs and other trees structure around that.

It would help right. Right up to a tree to get the benefits of looking at the beauty. Yes absolutely true. And instead you got some Japanese maples as well can you talk about those a little bit. Yes yes. And I'd like to emphasize you know people think of troponin maples those little lazy looking Mity you know the red neck kind of dissected there and they look almost like tropical. Well they're both not quite hardy in the ground. But you can use them in a container situation and if you have a cold frame on a non He did go up to something there's a technique to be had developed over of entering them and without any problem. Not going to put them on a question about the cold frame if you've got a cold frame how do you keep that from getting too hot during the day in particular in the spring because then it done that fluctuation of temperatures is acute.

You and you would have to almost have. If you have a cupboard I would suggest to open it up during the damp. Yeah completely uncovered and then and then cover it up again fall off them to trap them. Yeah. I. Went Oh yeah yeah the Japanese maple that they call it the pony come. And also out of some rich from Manchuria. Many variations. Some of them have some nice tech that have like five hundred bolt and have that kind of lazy look to it which I call really hard to hear. There are a few We have just discovered They're not been around for a long maybe and 80 82. And as to my riches fundament you are in a region that

has a green arc and have been to time it turns red and has the lead kind of a three year old. They combed right over them and the foliage isn't quite that spectacular on now it's beautiful teen interest and the fall color is awesome. It's kind of a reddish orange pink. But what you get in the fall and the fall you get this beautiful end of the expression a smile and you have a trunk which is like the greening the thread and a nice contrast to the thumb which have exposed it. There looked like a river butch but the bark comes often cheap there are some which have a corky bar but there's there's all these different.

And mostly a medium sized tree. They don't get very large in maturity some in the 16 12 to 16 maybe 18 foot top. Yeah most people are NO way which is a tough one actually of all the story ideas. General is a general. Yeah but just the Korean Mabel and I also exist variations to some very very compact forms too. We're talking a little bit about some of these various different plants so maybe you could describe a little bit about where you are so folks are interested in coming down to it of Iceland skipping nursery in what you're when you open up in the spring. Shouldn't we be open up officially May 5th. Some people think oh dear my oh oh yeah and the oh if you come down from the north shore. The easiest way is to take the P. act that the p a

street that is and then turning Oh I don't Lester a road cross is located at. And to see from miles roughly in long windy road Teenie right and it come to a stop sign which is Brandt and you'd be turning left on strand and on top of the hill for just a couple miles you come to a stop sign as the town hall then our lovely school well they quit school and you look up there and just try. And they hail me on top of the hill on kind of the Judean no stop scientist stop sign on Washburn now Washburn and a stacked strand write them in a kind of teak on a form that intersection. OK. And 0 hours Monday through Saturday 9 to

5. When they say it would be open delayed till the sun quit shining. And may in truth be open Sundays from now on till fall. OK so and again that information is available on the website. W w w a device nursery dot com. Yeah and maybe. What I what have I not touched on that used to feel like I think you know one thing me you you mentioned earlier to me is the boat. Maybe I should talk a little bit about Magnolia. Oh yes yeah yeah that is the interesting subject by itself. Quite a number of McNall is such a hard day for our climate and so if you look in some of the books the day is on 5 but I don't believe it really. I have and all my years I've been in this sort of culture. I have not seen a plan to read a book yet and say oh my god.

So in five O T I should not be here I should be dead you know I mean really. It is some plan. Yes a different use on five. So they haven't looked at the garden books. Exactly you know that if but this but just so many new Finks out there I mean the East Bloc countries opened up and China on everything but as a mound of plant material out there most people can't even comprehend. I mean exciting thing a beautiful thing. McNulty is I mean variation. So much knowledge is from old yellow to ping to allow to vote white you name it from tree phone to. Shop form just to give a few of them both back to Madeleine I missed all of that gold fan's yellow bird. Is this the way of

an all girl baby. The oil. And Alexandria. This actually and another one out there which is phenomenal just come up roaming on just putting blooming on. That the demand factor is very important. Do you want to get at the MK normally which I did which blooms create all mid season to get the early promo on David not to up for the boom too early. Being assured to get this nice warm spell in March sometimes but then it all goes downhill again and that those two have on a boat. Yeah I have the Magnolia blossoms fragrant. Yeah most of them over here. Fragrant some of the high print run. But then you get the showy part of the foliage and. I have one.

McNulty had also known as a cucumber McNall leaves and he has some 10 to 12 inches. Wow and now that looks like it looks like a tropical tree. Well they do that's why I've always believed that zone 5 information is making what I can tell it's not going to grow here. I've been in the first place but at the end of this whole array of getting involved in them and taping aspect of it they all except on me. Those ones go for you. They want to know that I won't go for your assist. OK I'll take 10 adults and you know it turned 15 I have run one of them I planted in my own yard and that thing is probably about 16 18 feet tall and about 10 12 feet across. Well and that's about the marrow and that is just an awesome tree big thick Petros and very fragrant as bacon does a lot I like.

Yeah and actually that brings me back to the woman called about the last day of frost and one thing I had heard was that the locks don't open until there's little or no chance of frost and if you've ever heard that before but that that's a good gauge. And when those buds start to form usually depends on you know down on their luck. There's no region is a vera shore later and then down here you can get frost 6.9. Yeah you know devoted but those that light those low lying areas you know. I does and we are damaging but I can recall the first and second week in May where we had the bottom thought this big drop out would you know when you get there in the teens or twenties. That is not a good thing. I don't care what kind of plant. If it's in ditches not in ditches it's going to be damage.

Yeah yeah you know for sure. Yeah well we have to wrap it up here and I would say Appreciate that gardening for hours but I want to thank you so much we've been speaking with just a braai of Edelweiss landscaping a nursery in Duluth and thank you Joseph so very much for joining us appreciate it. Well thank you so much and thank you for letting us know so question. Well I think that for me already. Thank you. Thanks. Bye Bye bye. As I mentioned that starts wrapping it up here for northern gardening here for today. It's Friday and this will be rebroadcast on Wednesday the twenty fifth and that will be at 6:00 o'clock on Wednesday. And local programming and radio is supported by hundreds of members by the Grand Portage band of like proud to support public radio in our community and support for northern gardening comes from Evergreen from Evergreen originals

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