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It's about. Two thirty six I guess. Then you know Springs Ohio and we've turned all the lights out except for a few night like night light type lights. I'm sitting in the production studio all by myself with all the lights out. A few machines wearing and I'm sitting in the on air studio with a long white sound. Sounds like this. A little but there's a buzz on the left channel. Yeah Gary I think you might be able to fix that by plugging a patch panel into the left input of your microphone on the on the patch panel. One that's not being used and you know I turned all the lights on while I talk to people talk to the people I'd be glad to do it. You're listening to WY Oiseau and Yellow Springs. And this is the Gary can you know show is usually called the Dark is beginning. You know I've been listening to a lot of Bob Dylan for about the last 30 minutes. And earlier we were calling a bunch of stations around the country that are similar to W. I so trying to find out
what's going on in those towns where they're located we call one in Atlanta and one in New York and one in Pittsburgh and one Columbia Missouri. And the consensus was that it was hot. It's pretty hot here too except we have two studios. The conversations were too hot there or they're right next to each other so you plug it in but it's still there. That's interesting. I will see what we can do about it later. Why these two studios that are right next to each other is usually used for people going on the air and there is a big glass window and then you look into the other studio actually more probably call the control room and and that's the one where the live music show is done from if you ever listen to that. And it's where most of the recording of programs goes on.
Sounds like Gary got rid of the home somehow. Anyway I got rid of it was by eliminating me. Yeah sounds like it's on your microphone so there's probably no way to get rid of it. But we don't need to listen to Gary Anyway I don't think he doesn't really have much of interest to say. At any rate he back to the studio so one of the what's called a production studio one that I'm not and the one that carries and has an air conditioner in it. And this one doesn't have an air conditioner right but it has a window which is much better except that every once in a while you get to hear the cars revving up their engines outside and people whistling and talking and stuff. And I can be pretty interesting in fact. Sometimes people go on in the mornings here and they
just put up the microphone and you listen to the birds outside. One of the radio stations you know that you could do that making any progress with that buzz of hearing. I see him running around in there plugging different things in the different places. No no progress. You can also hear what sounds like static comes and goes. And it's probably mostly united is it guy. Now it's in the other channel. We're getting a call. Once you pick it up and see what they had to say. You're also hearing some static and that's caused by the phone company equipment that we use to transmit all the stuff that goes on here at the station out to our transmitter which is three or four miles away that the phone company has problems keeping those
lines but your telephone lines just better call the ones that are used for normal telephones and watch all keeping those quiet. All kinds of noises pop up every once in a while and that static noise has been on that channel now for several months and it's frustrating but hopefully they'll be gone with it sooner or later there's also kind of a whistling noise in the background that you hear and that's also a phone company problems. And they've been promising us for a long time that it would be fixed sooner or later and it's turned out to be later. So all we can do is cross our fingers and keep calling them and hope that the noises are done away with at some point. But I'm not sure I it's probably not like this anymore earlier when we first started talking I was I should have been coming out of one of your speakers and Garry coming out of the other. We just have to think the buzz is now just I'm hearing it and I'm wearing some headphones and I'm hearing it in the right right one instead of the left.
Who cares about a buzz. It's a very impoverished radio station you're listening to my old do a subscription pitch. Now that we're on the air and Gary is trying to get rid of buzz. And you better not turn your radio off. We're going tell some stories in a little while they're going to blow your mind. So you have to listen to this little commercial for the radio station. If you want to listen to the good stories later unless you could just turn your volume down and then turn it back up I guess you could do that. The station that you're listening to depends on contributions from listeners for a substantial part of the money that's used to keep a station on the air. And it's easy to say well why should I pay money just to be able to listen to the station when I can listen anyway. Well you might not be able to listen anyway
because the money that comes from subscribers keeps going and a lot of different kind of ways. To become a subscriber you subscribe in the same way as you might subscribe to a magazine or at least an and somewhat the same way you send in $15 a year to the radio station and that qualifies you as a subscriber. And. It also qualifies you to receive our program guide every month which lists all the programming as accurately as it can be listed. You also qualifies you to feel good and not have your conscience bother you. That's right and I think I think you've got the buzz down as low as it's going to go. Yeah I'm going to find out from you later how you did that. So I look and amazing feet. Well I've turned the lights out again. I was sitting here at the main reason the lights are out is that like I said before it's so hot up here it's really hot. Another part of being in a poverty station is that you can't afford air conditioners there's a
normal room air conditioner like you have in a window in the production studio and you can't turn that on when the microphones on of course or it sounds like you're doing your programming from the ocean side with the roar in the background so it's problems. I like all the sound. We have some rain you know not to mention other people and other people and also have we have so I don't know if we do or not but we might have some ideological differences about what's good to put over the air on the radio station. I'm inclined to try anything at least three times. Well everything's been tried on the station I think my experience maybe two or three things and tried my theory is if it's there use it. Yeah Randy was here tonight so I don't want to say that I'm now using him for me. But there's a spider in a studio that's attacking me. I was afraid of spiders I'd be up the wall right now. In fact there are several of them were coming to get me here.
Now you grew up in Louisiana so you must be used to this. I've seen those Tennessee Williams plays and there are cobwebs all over the place and mostly snakes not too many spiders. Annabel Lee the frenzied mother always has a few moths in her hair. I'm going to be leaving y so as program director in about a month and going to the west coast and trying to start an alternative radio network. If you don't know what you're listening to an alternative radio station that means that it's different from other radio stations that you're likely to be able to hear and they're a bunch of the stations that have been on the air around the country for the last. 15 years or so and there are a bunch that are starting right now and they do programming that just isn't offered anywhere else and is really fine sometimes not so fine but but sometimes really fantastic. And we're going to try to meet a bunch of other people
are going to try to make a network out of those stations and share information and try to make it so. All of them can do a better job of serving the people that listen to them. One thing I noticed Randi was there also I went to a sort of a mini conference in Cincinnati last Saturday with people from Ai ai af which is a station in Cincinnati which is almost on the air and is WFA see thing in Columbus right which is in their stations almost on the air. One thing that's very interesting is that community oriented stations and the groups that start them and put them together first of all it takes years and years of dedicated work before you ever get on the air and all that stuff. Other than that they're all very it seems like every station that starts almost starts from scratch and learns everything along the way and they're all like almost like individual organisms. They're not you know each station doesn't appear and in no way is like the kind of
mass produced thing where you know it seems like everything is stamped out of a mold you can just go to a catalog and order a few things. You know everyone has it's own complete opposite from standardised computer stations for wind but the McDonald stations of the post are much more than just radio stations. Yeah which Lee just perhaps into some of our more racy discussions. You ever notice that all McDonalds look alike. That's called stating the obvious. Thank you here without you I don't feel like I've you know said and I can't say that I have tried to be nice I was going to say you know have you ever noticed that all Chinese look alike but that's not a very brilliant thing to say. Why do all metadata look alike. I want to talk about any you have any idea of what they all look alike. Yes and seriously. Yeah sure because.
There oases you know if you go out if you go driving on interstates or even on long highways out in the Midwest or something where there's nothing and you come to a McDonald's it's an oasis and you know it's not the same in the East End but I mean not the same. Well I mean you can't have an oases in the east because there's plenty of water. Well I don't know about that but there's plenty of structure anyway. I want east coast anyway. Yeah. Oh yeah I think I agree with that. It's an oasis in that it's an oasis of standardisation remind you of time to choose the exceptional food you know and have a good time and I do that so that you will go to it again and again. Also all Howard Johnson's look alike and all the Tatar etc. so high old look alike. And there's more to it than just that they got some cheap paint somewhere inside a painted wall same color.
Are you fading in and out Gary. Every once in a while you're talking about my mind every once in a while your bus goes away. But yeah man when you know the guy who sold me the stuff he just wasn't hip. I used to sell encyclopedias in this area. I used to sell them and everybody else in this area sold dope at one time or another. Don't Randy Tom has sold encyclopedias. I don't think everybody else is so dope. I don't know it seems to be that if people are trying to make money and have to do it on an individual basis and everything you know he seems to be one of the first options people take up. At least in Yellow Springs Yellow Springs has a pretty bad reputation some of it is justified and some of it is. Are you saying you're saying that what I'm saying is bad. No not at all. I saw encyclopedias in Miamisburg and West Carrollton a lot of people I'm sure in Dayton know where that is and some people outside today know where it is it's down south of Dayton.
Did you have a standard pitch. Sure what I had to go to school for several weeks to do that. How long ago is that. Oh it was in 1969 right after I graduated from high school six years ago. I want to try and sell me an encyclopedia. Mr Covino. Yes that is your name. Yeah well my name is Randy tall he said was I went to sleep last night. Christ you are here early. Well my name's Randy Tom and I represent the brand X company and we're doing a marketing survey in this area. We're going to find out how people are affected by different forms of advertising. I don't pay attention and how about television the television effect I don't have one. How about radio. How about the mayor's newspapers. I can't read it to cover you know you're a Neanderthal. Listen you're standing on my newspaper there can I have it. I thought you said you didn't read newspapers What do you use it for. I use it to paper my bird cage. By the way your other foot is standing in the stuff I threw out last night. I'm very
sorry very much. Now when you when you went out did you prey on Housewives or anything your prey on particular types of people. What we did was to drive around and look for what was called Kiddie blank I can't see I can't say what goes in the place of the blank blank. It's a dirty word. And we're not like that. You're giving him anyway I don't understand what it refers to a bodily function the function of excretion. You do in the driveway and John is saying No Kitty it means a kid of course and Kitty blank is bicycles. Try Sickles swing sets those teeter totters I said that's what it is and we go around looking for those. And our boss would drive a bunch of us around most of us were college age and you know really going for some kind of a job to make some money to go to college on and enthusiastic
easily led etc. We drive around and this guy used to be a deejay. And he had a typical deep voice and was a great talker. Not like you. I don't have a deep voice not a great talker either. Anyway we drive around and we look for this kiddie stuff and we see it. Then the deejay would go crazy and say this is where we stop so we let one of us out and we go and roam around the neighborhood all day long and try to sell encyclopedias and of course we couldn't come right out and tell people we're going to sell encyclopedias we had to have some kind of come on. And that particular company's Come on was the facade of supposedly doing a marketing survey trying to find out what forms of advertising influence people most. And we had a little computer card that we had to fill out and so we'd get into the people's living rooms fill that out and then start talking to them about encyclopedias. Everybody's heard that kind of line just about everybody has it you know one time or another.
You just reminded me of the time I spent I think it was three weeks as a telephone solicitor for the New Brunswick home news. And it was really it was really gross and disgusting I was trying to earn enough money in two weeks to go hitchhiking for the summer which I didn't. And I went into this place and it was all people who had just gotten out of high school much like yourself in that other situation. And I I had had a year of college. And was taking the year off and was in all sorts of personal and personal traumas and everything. So I went into this. Yeah and I went into this place and it turns out I had to go. You know the whole thing was routine we all pretended that we were about 13 and we had a chance to win a scholarship if we could only get this one last order today. And that whole bit and it was really gross. I only got about four sales in two weeks and eventually got fired. Well I was really repulsed by these to be this one female woman girl whatever you call in person in there who would get on the phone and her particular area of expertise.
Was. Old Men and she would just whine away at them you know get up go to the game and it was for. The fans of heavy music. You know I listened. For a couple minutes. This is.
You scared me to death. I had to wake up. Somebody was behind me. It's from a David Bowie album and it's David boy and John Lennon. How groovy can you get. Really. Yeah together. That's what it is. David Bowie and John Lennon. Is it the young American. Yeah I think it is. With country were fantastic stories in just two minutes from. Me. Right.
Yeah yeah yeah you're right. Did you become famous. How. That's why I put that I'm talking about fame from your exploits on the phone with the phone solicitation however I became infamous. He became much of anything.
Now they become Why so volunteer. That's something. Depends on here are squeaky chair I was sitting here and while that thing was on in the without the lights on. Looking at a VU meter that's moving up and down without any lights on is very strange because it looks all the movements get separate into little choppy bits and you rightly share what we're looking especially if it's a good one. The view meters a thing that it's a kind of a meter and looks something like a speedometer on your car has a little you know a little pointer a little needle and it registers across these numbers that tell you how loud something is going over the air. And I sort of view mirrors so when it when you're playing a piece of music you see it bouncing up and down with the beat of the music and you can sit there and watch it all night myself. And speaking of sitting there and watching things all night this is wy Esso in Yellow Springs Ohio. Ninety one point five FM stereo.
If you're hearing things coming out of one speaker and in the other it's normal and it's not your set. Don't adjust it. We can show you what we can they get stupid little we can make it make it funny. We can turn it to a bay use Haro. We can make things come out of one speaker and in the other. We're not trying to be particularly groovy by doing that it's just it's it's easiest way to do it. We've seen it. It's very weird because we're talking to each other we can't see each other. And we could I guess if we craned our necks around I know it's I can see your little light in there. Gary has a little light a little bubble I found in the station that's about the size of a thimble. So it won't it won't generate too much heat so you can stay relatively cool in there without the air conditioner on. I don't pity on him. I mean if you're not worried about your manhood go along with stuff like that. I'm not sure how that relates or maybe some of the people out there picked it up. If you ever lived in a stump Kerry. No I was just going to ask you
I was going to say that you are the only person I know who lived in a tree stump. I knew you were going to ask me that and that's why I brought it up. Yeah I lived and I saw you thought of that because I was saying something about manhood and you thought it. That's a Malay's thing I can think of stump. Yeah. Living in a manly actually is probably more of a. Like inclosure true I don't know where you could go with that. It is you know mainly psychologists out there you know whatever that means. You know me you know it's mentally in the worst sense of the word traditional incorrect sense of the word living in a stump that is. I don't know if I want to talk about living in a city I got to know the great outdoors and finding nature. Yeah it's rough. I was going to fight every day to stay alive and keep the hepatitis away a bunch of people around here have been suggesting that I talk on the air about my various exploits it led me to work here why so. And
doing some of that tonight. It's a twisted story. What about the stump the twisted tale just in some very strange things. The stump as it was in a commune up north of San Francisco in the coastal mountains really beautiful area and mountains are very high and mostly just hilly and a lot of them are burned off from forest fires in the past. But they're there right near the ocean and you can go down to the ocean and they're near a town called Santa Rosa if you know about that they're near a town called but Degas Bay which is where they shot the film the birds. You know about that. And they're near a town called Occidental. Occidental California. Are you waiting for me to say something. No racist about that. No I figured you might. I wasn't really waiting for it. I was trying to think of the best way to tell those towns named Occidental look alike.
Yeah I reckon they do there'll actually be a lot of Italian people of Italian descent and Occidental. And in northern California in general. I'm not sure why. I guess people who started vineyards there might have encouraged their relatives from Italy to come over. That's probably a pretty stupid thing to say I don't know anything about it but that would be my guess. Probably all the good land is gone. I don't know but it's really hilly and beautiful there and this guy bought a bunch of land one of these relatively well-off. Young hippies who inherited a lot of money didn't really deserve a bottle a bunch a land and told people that they could just move on it if they wanted to and a couple of years after that I happened by and decided I'd like to try living on a commune. I. Didn't know much about it is that ideological commitment. Whatever personal and I was I was investigating everything and it's brother and sister. At that point and I decided living on a commune Pretty be a pretty good thing to do so that this wasn't
really a commune It was more like hippie housing tract. Most people who lived there didn't have much of a communal sense of anything. They were mostly just into building a little stump house of some kind and. Wearing big boy knives and fending people off they came near their places where they lived. They're pretty protective and actually mean and hostile. Sounds like a return to the pioneer days. Yeah I'm afraid it was some kind of a mutation of that. So I lived in a stump there. I lived down the hill from where most of the houses were neck next to the stream in a big redwoods. And it was good living in the stump stump is about as dirty a house as you could ask for. I was a hollowed out stump of course as whole and you got called in the hole and there was hollowed out inside and there were hardly any bugs in there and it stayed pretty dry and I think a tornado could have gone right over it and it would have would have torn it up and in
fact the whole lineage of people lived in that stuff. Who went there first. No I wasn't the first one I and there were it was vacant when I moved in there wasn't really anybody living in it when I moved in. But I know there are some I moved in as soon as I moved out. I think it become popular by that time. It was very good stuff and in fact I think it was the only stop in the whole commune It was called Wheeler's ranch that's what the whole place was called It was the only stop there. And I think after I moved out it. People got to know about it and it was pretty much in demand. Most people lived in a little. Thrown together lean tos of some kind. Some of the buildings there were fairly intricate but not many of them. People lived pretty much in squalor didn't you. There's a lot of disease. Are there any times when everybody who happened to be on the ranch got together and did anything. Runners just oh yes there was a there was a sauna bath that they made and it consisted of just a wooden square wooden
building that was just built on the ground it had a dirt floor and they'd built fires in there and boil water and you get the steam all inside this enclosed building and people would sit around and. It was like a steam bath. And then they go out and run around in a clothes on outside. In the in the woods. Quite a scene like a. Herbal Essences shampoo commercial might have been something close to that. But it was an excellent place. I decided to leave because I didn't want to get hepatitis C everybody got hepatitis for one reason or another. The drinking water wasn't particularly pure came out of a stream that was down the hill. That's one of the good things about it though I like. I like getting that water every day you had to walk down this hill every day to get water and bring it back up. And as as trite cliche as it sounds people get used to you know turning on a tap and getting water out of it and it's a it's a good feeling in a way to
have to walk down and carry your water and it makes you feel. Different about about the way you living and about how you relate to everything around you. That sounds like a. Real lesson and I'm OK You're OK. Groovy. Gary. So people if you're going with your lifestyle like now do you have no possessions whatever. No I have a lot of possessions I really become rich living here. At the radio station. The people at the radio station don't make much money. The take home pay is that for the for the people who get paid at all sick people get paid here. Actually 8 get paid but 6 of them are full time people too are our get money from the college to work here as a student. But 6 people who get paid full time take home about 75 or 80 dollars a week which is pretty much subsist subsistence and of course below it for anybody who has a family.
If you have to shop in Weavers I know I shouldn't say that but couldn't resist. We were either way grocery store here and now it was yesterday and I can believe it. I was looking at their meat counter. They have pink lights. You know pink lifea that would be to you know like if I had a supermarket I'd thank you putting pink lights in would just be too obvious and too trite because everybody would notice. Well I must try to hide. No not really I don't. The pink lights are supposed to make the meat redder So you want to buy it more. Looks fresh or something looks like it was just pulled off a dinosaur. Something like that I think it does a little bit. As a. Frankel's dog blood or something. For shame how could we were to do that. We were supposed to be a good place. That's not. A nobody who listens is shit station she shocked him. So anyway that's a pretty vile thing to say. Testing the bounds of free speech. If you can alienate the town then what was I saying just
before the Weavers story time about materialistic lifestyle. Oh yeah right you know because like all the stories I've heard about you just seems like you had a super simplistic lifestyle I mean you know I did for life revolved around getting the water from the broken sleeping stuff at night just wondering whether it stayed that way or why did the SP's pretty much the same kind of thing in cities too. I spent a couple of years traveling around the country after I dropped out of college. I'm a dropout from which college. Louisiana State University who. Hundred thousand freshman LSU when dumb came out them too. I'd say that's pretty much true. So I dropped out and travel around the country a lot in this commune thing came came by at some point there and then after the commune I left because I didn't want to get hepatitis. I went down to the Bay Area called the Bay Area which is San Francisco Berkeley Oakland California.
The place where all young hippies. That we go to it's like Mecca. That was my dream for years you know the one thing I'd always say was in Berkeley before I die. Yeah well some people I've heard that some people in St. Louis and Wichita Falls and Miami. Actually bow in the direction of. San Francisco and Berkeley each day at sunset. I'm not sure if that's true. But it may be. I've been told there. Was a lot of stuff going on there. I don't know if I'd recommend anybody moving there it's pretty weird place. But. It's like. And I'm going there now. So. If you like bein Vimy where there's all kinds of strange things around that is that's what keeps you. Intellectually or emotionally excited. I don't know what Airfix place. I don't know why it is that so many weirdos wind up out there I guess I'm talking about myself now. But. There's so many strange religious
sects. That's AC Yes. And I guess religious sects too. And just. Strange weird devotions of one kind or another I mean you're in a way that is when you were in Berkeley. Did they have anything. Something by the name of the One World Family commune. Sure I used to get food from them. But I don't have any regular store on telegraphy. Yeah. When I was there was there one hundred seventy two three in summer. They had a very large building on Telegraph Avenue had this gigantic rainbow on it and on the side was this long long tract. And Gothic letters about how. They were in touch with flying saucers and the world was. Going to end in 1986 on July 4th. To coincide with the bicentennial and the chosen one hundred forty four thousand would be taken and a shaft of laser light into a flying saucer. And it was
quite strange. I first knew I was hitchhiking with was very young. He was easily taken and I guess you could say I'm sure there's milder ways to say but I don't know who he unsophisticated well. He's looking for spirituality in almost everything. He fell for that place for two days. He just went in there and everybody had you know. Big guys and they're all smiling. And you just don't love with it for two days. I would go near the place that whole wheat pizza and I didn't like it. Well I used to go I got some free food from the couple times. I was living pretty much on the street in Berkeley as a lot of people were at that point and still are and still are. I may go back to if I can't get a job out there. And. When you're on the street you get food every day and there are always
a bunch of philanthropic organizations churches etc. that ensure that if you're willing to listen to a prayer or willing to pray or willing to let somebody pray for you they're willing to give you some food. And that was one of those places also the you know what they call Hari Krishna people. You know about them. Who does. I guess most people do. If you go to any big city practically you see these people dressed in me in white robes and the men cut all their hair off and. They look like they're in ecstasy all the time and they're playing this music and their eyes are rolling around in the swaying back and forth and. Don't ever try to get any free food from them. They have the worst food I have ever tasted in my life I had to eat some of it for at one point because I was pretty hungry. I think they seasoned it with their special incense.
Well then they're special and incense and sugar. And. Everything they have is provided by sugar. Every form of food that they have it's taste kind of like a mixture of. 70 percent sugar. 10 percent raisins. 10 percent rice. And 10 percent cinnamon. If you can imagine that. The Russian kids probably like it. I prefer K roaster myself. Which leads us to another story. No it's actually back to the other story I think I was living in the stop. I wandered onto this cache of food. It was government surplus food. That somebody at one of these dropout hippies or gotten from the government and it had some really pretty terrible food in it. There was canned meat. I don't know if you've ever tasted much government surplus canned meat
but it's pretty rough stuff. Somebody told me once that the Beatles were England paying the United States back for all the canned spam that they sent them during the war. The best thing that was in this government surplus cash was. Pure government surplus. I used to suck that stuff up every day because of the strong. No I just took the bottle and lifted it as high as I could and it drained right down my throat. If you can imagine and I look forward to it. That's what was really strange about it I looked forward to it and I don't know if anybody listening has ever lived off of a more or less straight diet of sugar for any length of time but it's pretty rough on your body. And it makes you for one thing you can never go to sleep and even when you lie down and you're dead tired your body wants to run full speed. You feel like you want to jump over houses and trees and that kind of thing. Your muscles are always in bad
but you always kind of tired. It's. Definitely near terminal hypoglycemia. You can stay in college for that. There I guess but the kero wasn't that bad. Taught me how to live on sugar anyway. So drink McKerrow and living in the stuff was a really good time I shouldn't put it down. I met a lot of good people there and. Everything in my history makes me what I am today. Cultural determinism. Program Director WY. So do you have romantic notions of America. Sure doesn't everybody. I love the United States even though it's. Crazy down the drain long ago. Yeah well you know we're not talking about the political structure and you know. I don't know I just I think it goes back to when I was a teenager and started reading all beat literature. I think that's when I started that plus the combination never having gone anywhere
in the country. This year and I finally did get around. I was enchanted by everything and tacky little towns with red necks everything is incredibly Chante. I romanticize it alive and I even like hippies. I like to look at them and talk to them and do radio shows with them every once in a while. So I face. I love all kinds of Americans. If you go to Europe I'm told I've never been a you're. The you can you can always spot an American or European can always spot an American because they have a romantic gleam in their eye. And. Are not very practical about things. It's heartening to know it's true. I think it probably is. Most of us like that. So you have the stereotype of young Americans going to conquer the world and understand everything and. Philosophize and
socializing. And you have those people over in Paris laughing at them and. Trying to get some big tips out. But I like the United States. It is going to turn into a political discussion though if we talk much more about the United States. Why is that. Because I'm in favor of social change. So. What do you want to talk about the politics of the matter. No you talk about the country. Well the country is. Inexorably tied up with politics. So if we talk about the country and the people in it well we're bound to say something about politics is weird this is the last two minutes are following exactly a discussion I heard once in the. Columbia University graduate film school. Sounds pretty gross. No it is very strange in that I'm saying exactly the same things one person is saying oh you can just talk about the land and the people in your faces and you're trying with everything
else. Everything's entertaining with everything I know but you can single out. Well I don't know if you can vote here if you don't know what you're talking about there. Then you're saying Sacha knew you lived in that day not that you lived in London she slept in the men's room for a while. Are your men's rooms are another place that if you're a bum in the country and we could talk all about being a bomber in the United States that's a good safe topic. I mean you know you think well you can you can bring political stuff in there but you can rail against you know big business and write the cops on the right that that you know. Utah Phillips standard lines and you. Being a bomb is very hard in this country and the first place you have to have a driver's license and if you're a bomb it's just you might not be able to keep up your driver's license. If you live in this country people expect you to have a driver's license especially if you're a man. And if you don't have one. People just don't really recognize you as a true human being.
And that along with a lot of other problems. Makes it very hard to be a bomb. In some ways though some people prefer it. And one of the problems we have being a bomb is finding a place to sleep in men's rooms are a good place. So people step on you a lot and sometimes do other things and. If you're too close to the Yarnell. I slept in the bathroom stall and caus had Nebraska once for six hours before I was. It's just incredibly gross. It's my propped up on the seat with my head on a roll of toilet paper. I was amazed at the stuff I heard that night. You like what I do. By the fifth hour or so I was able to tell the entire background of whoever came in just by the sounds they were emitting all day. I mean you know you themselves know just like I do I just know not even not even there. At first
it was on the verbal level but then it just got down to the level of what their excrement sounded like. Oh it's hard when I'm like can you tell me think about it you will doubt it. Well at least I could tell it their eating habits for digestive troubles and nothing you can fantasize on from there forever. And after being up six hours in the bathroom that's what happens. You can fantasize about anything. Excuse somebody outside is making me sleepy. I my window open here I'm hearing OK I'm just going outside the window. I hear some noises in that room as a tape machines and I also hear some humming in the background. It's probably one of the tape recorders in the home of the motors turning around. If anybody out there is interested in the time it's three twenty one.
All aboard. I feel really been after you to make some kind of final climactic appearance to the Why so. Audience a couple of people have. And this isn't it I want to tell you that right now you're going to make a final climactic appearance. Sure. This is only the practice session. Yeah for us it's happening it's such a strange hour and can help with the melody you know and then. Your next coach is leaving for Toledo Chillicothe Memphis Miami and Havana and gate number four all aboard. Police always want to be one of those people they always talk like bus stations. We talk about bus station. GROSS Well everybody hates buses and I don't understand why they're harmful they depress me. Why do they do fresh air. Because they're always filled with 35 year old women with three kids screaming in their clothes have holes and bags under eyes and they're
just gross and they treat you like cattle. I like it. I think I like it for the same reason I like to go to McDonald's. I love train stations bus stations. I don't spend much time at train station but I like to ride buses. I mean even though there's usually some some elderly man sitting next to you slobbering on your neck trying to go to sleep anyway. You leave your seat back and somebody puts their cigarette out in your eye. It can be rough riding buses but I like it though the one place I don't like is a place called Port Authority Bus Terminal in New York City. You have been there. Oh yes many times. I guess that's main bus station in New York. Frankly right it goes New York City stops there and it gets right after you cross. I guess right you go through the Lincoln Tunnel from New Jersey for the St.. Is it a Lincoln Tunnel or is it George Washington is really are you forget you can write
tunnel and it's on 40th Street or Forty first Street and 12th Avenue whenever it is a very gross place. Oh yeah there are several levels and even the police mug you in Port Authority Bus Terminal. If you there are places for set aside for women and children to sit that are more or less fortified they have cannons around them and everything else is a free fire zone and everything else is. The extreme militarized zone where you're liable to get raped robbed beaten stabbed shot dragged behind a horse whatever people can think of it's very dangerous and scary place. Don't ever go to the Port Authority Bus Terminal. There's lots of people who go to the Port Authority bus terminal to pick up a wayward youth who just arrived in the big city and 15 in a few. Not really and then they run away from home and they just you know pick them up and entice them into all kinds of strange
things and I'm glad I was you know so you were pretty enough but the last time was in the Port Authority bus station all the seats and what ones there were few to sit in my ear waiting for the buses have now had little TV sets installed on the right. Yeah I saw them and that was very strange. There were lots of that's been the big thing in bus station for the last several years I guess. So instead of having all these people blankly staring at the wall they can blankly stare at the two. I like to stare at the people that's that's a group thing about being in a bus station or a bus you get to watch the people and. I like the whole idea. There's another thing that we're talking about Europe before. If you go to Europe you you notice that if you go into a restaurant people don't think twice about just sitting down at the same table where you're sitting and eating. Whereas in this country that's taboo. If there's an empty seat in the place then that's where somebody sits before also with anybody else.
I guess that maybe Because been crowded over there for longer than it has here or something but people are isolated from each other in this country. And I like public places like that because it makes people rub up against each other sometimes causing sparks. I don't like the view I sell which he says we don't have to say that. I just felt like it or you can throw that in if you see all purpose phrase the FCC the Federal Communications Commission requires that stations radio stations and television stations identify themselves at least once an hour and as close to the hour as possible. Again I just want to say once and for all that the FCC can bite me lick my face. I just want to say that I've been waiting months. It's really you know why would you want to say that because it's. To use a colloquial phrase it's really a drag man to light come up into a radio studio in the middle of the night want to do all kinds of neat things and everyone still have to worry that you're not able to do it because of some
arcane rule of the FCC. Somebody in Washington making moralistic decisions for you and your community. Well there are some good people at the FCC and a lot of people there that are that are legitimately think they're defending the the American public from nuisances. So you can't put them down completely Can you. They're an ABM system for years. Well here we are in a political discussion and fortunately one can't help it any of this is the most politicized place I've ever been in in my life. Maybe I just never noticed it other places but there's a lot of that kind of thing definitely. I'm looking at this David Boy album that we played earlier since we've been talking about all kinds of cosmic things.
We're listening to a very cosmic song which was written by John Lennon and is performed by I guess. By a boy and with Lennon singing along every once in a while. Hope you enjoy it. I think.
You're. On. Your own. I love John Fahy. I've heard that's all you ever play when you're on your. That's not true people say I play a lot of John Fahy in the old cocky but that's not true at all. He did take this album out. Well I reckon idea. But play a lot of stuff. I play a lot of rock and roll. I play. Do you love John Fahy because you love romantic America. No. You don't have any relationship to each other all. No I just like him because he's cute. He really is. I
know it's karate. You could say. I don't know about that. I just like the way plays guitar. Really I've heard he's a pretty. Difficult character to get along with. We're thinking about bringing him here to the station not really to the station but to the area to try to do a concert and raise some money as part of and bring a whole bunch of other people some blues people some like that. And. One of the people who I talk to to try to arrange it said Don't Rain Fahy because you might get there and decide not to play something like that. I guess you can be pretty hard to work with. Sensitive I. Have been on here. I don't believe in giving anybody the quiet. Except Jon Faine. Down home are here listening to you call a show called The Dark is beginning. Yeah I tried to get the title changed many times what you want to change it to and it better be not
obscene. No I was going to change it to something I think it was all along the Telegraph the dark is beginning is a line from the Bob Dylan song what song. A little known song that was released on the 45 called. Please crawl out your window. You know you know. And somewhere in there where there's a line where he says come on out the dark is just beginning. What about a limerick. A limerick might be interesting. I really I kind of want to mix. I want to be a catchy I want to be portentious. Well the least I did when I know I know a bunch of limericks I could in fact I could recite a limerick. Let's here live here. In RI. I should say first that the word corpulent means fat. Some people might not know what that means. I didn't know what it meant at one time.
Why a corpulent lady named Croll had no idea exceedingly droll. She went to a bar all dressed in nothing at all and backed in as a pocket House role. I hear you laughing in the background. Definitely sick sick. I like it. I like limericks too had always heard of this and I always forget I'm always works best to read them in a British accent. Do you know any more. I don't know if most of them unfortunately are not readable on the radio. Ah come on. You shouldn't worry about things like that. You say you have to worry about the side you're leaving town. Now with the radio stations not leaving town. It might if you read some of this. Yeah that's true. So I won't. I might be able to think of one a couple some really good memories.
I wish I could tell a bunch of them in fact I just can't tell. A few years from now you had the poise and grace to just do this nonstop for hours. It's just a practice session for we hit the big time. You're listening to W H O O look beautiful voice of music the beautiful Roy I mean a lot of people have been doing Top 40 imitations of Y so lately and that too many of them I think. Music to survive a tornado. That's a true fact. We should get into talking about good political stuff like that about tornadoes. Channel 7 has gotten so much mileage out of their instant weather radar it's without us and when it doesn't exist and it doesn't mean a thing and
it's a shame that things that don't mean anything come to mean things and we supposedly have. Or are part of the tornado warning system in there. And they were I shouldn't say this but as far as I know the one time it was supposed it would come to actual play during a tornado in Moore and. Didn't work it didn't work there some people working to get it together and hopefully it will be together pretty soon. But in the meantime I hear a lot of local radio stations are public sizing the fact a great deal. They had tornado warning systems. There was an end to their great commercial advantage I might say. There was a meeting. Conducted by people from Noah. I've forgotten for the moment what those letters stand for but as the weather services various weather services to try to instruct broadcast media on what to do during a tornado and conspicuously absent at the meeting was w h o.
And I think in fact the other TV station in town to day. But Wy is always there the WIA so is interested in serving the people. Even though we don't have much money to do it with. So send us more. Send us a lot of money. We're just waiting for somebody to send us a thousand dollar check. There must be somebody out there now who has a lot of money and instead of buying 15 El Dorados this year you could buy a 14 and a tense and. Send us a thousand dollars. It's really weird like after being here while you kind of take for granted that. We can do for the much what we want to. But I was just sitting here thinking how unusual it is actually for. For any radio station to have two human beings sitting in talking to each other without you know. Without me being a hard bitten INTERVIEWER And you being the. Cute but articulate author of a pornographic book or something. Either that or you're. A public figure. Condescending to take phone calls in 30 seconds duration
from the audience. I heard it's quite unusual it's very strange because it's the most natural thing in the world. Speaking of natural I heard a ghost. Story about. When the two I go about it some by doing an interview. On television with somebody. It was. One of these middle aged. Women. Who are on shows like the Bob Brown show. I'm not sure what that woman's name is on that show. But the Bob Ryan Show comes out of Cincinnati and it's a variety show. Happens every day. I think around noon. It was about one of these women who is who did a talk show and some local TV station and some fairly major city. And she was interviewing somebody from some gay liberation group homo sexual liberation group. And she was sitting in the studio. Which was. Pretty much
completely made out of plastic. That is the studio literally the walls lined with the microphones made out of it. The floors made out of it. The chair that she was sitting in made out of it. She was wearing a dress that was partially made out of plastic. She was she had probably a half a pound of makeup on her face to try to make her look like a falsified. Pitiful caricature of a 20 year old. So she was actually about 60. Roos eyelashes dyed hair. Support stockings invisible and. The teeth that she had in her mouth weren't hers. They were somebody else's. Her skin was colored. She had a face lift. She had. Part of a wig on I
guess you call in the fall or something on the part of a wig. And she was interviewing these people from the Gay Liberation Society saying. But. It's just not natural. Homosexuality is just not natural. I think that was Virginia Graham with. Yeah I think it might have been. Struck me as a pretty funny story. If I think it was Holly meor who said it. I am told that story. A great local culture here. You're listening to a completely natural radio wy a solo in Yellow Springs this is the radio station that sets and rocks me on the front porch. Only news and lemony. I'd really like someone made. I hope people their works are able to sit and listen to us talk. Hope it's more interesting than whatever else you might have to do. I'm imagining in many cases it's not. But this radio station encourages people
to get involved in it not only to give it money but actually to get involved and working on it. Both Gary and I and most of the other people who work here showed up one day not knowing anything about radio and wanting to do something on the radio we did we had some kind of special interest like I want to produce a program about. The black community in Dayton or about farmers in the area or about some. Bob Dylan or. Whatever. I wanted to be an evangelist. You want to be Bob. Fass. That his name. I don't know I don't know about. I don't know if I was Bob Fass I'd have to talk like that. I'm sorry he started when he started talking like this about eight years ago and it's become standard on Oh well I don't know. People are going away for now but most people do that now. But he would know I want to be an evangelist on the island the whole tent which I did the first time I got a new member Gail Moss as a guest.
When I was in a couple of shows or so I'm very good. So when it grows. So. I get involved in this radio station the Comanche. And if you. Think there's anything that you'd like to do and especially if you think that the radio station is exactly what you'd like to see. Get involved. Get involved. John Fahy. Accompanied by Gary Covino and Randy tuff. Say goodnight and just have dance our way into the dome.
To. Which I'll say like Pete Seeger. Which album is this called of rivers and religion. Oh yeah I don't know if I like it as a really nice cover on it. John thank you steamboat right here right after we go as we fade into the sunset.
And as I said only yesterday comes to booklet speaking of projects to do some good some night or whatever I don't know sometime in the distant future I'd like to do a show where I and other people. Read chapters out of books and talk about romantic and wonderful reading books can be a good thing to do if they're not too boring and you have a good reader on the radio. Sometimes it's better that night because it's a good thing for people to fall asleep but. A good book. But this should be an act of me to give people a way. Not necessarily late at night you're supposed to go to sleep. That's cultural imperialism. No it's sleep. Or as Jim Bailey are you going to chief engineer calls it horizontal religion. Or. I'm pretty tired I think I'm about to have a rack at that rack attack and reacting a bit you know I reckon that's I guess that's close to.
Copping some heavy seas at once and so I don't think I'd ever run across that nice. Little bit of New Jersey. For you. So we say goodbye to the people for the night. Yeah all six of them. Noah I think you know what. Now all eight or ten of getting back to what I was saying a couple minutes ago. We just had some crazed wanna come off the street and I own the studio he's mumbling. Don't pay any attention to him. He's probably illegal and I've been writing a word. I just couldn't resist it. Whenever I hear people who are on the radio or talking. It appears that they're talking directly to me since the. Vast audience just. Can't help. All right writing them I fancy the station I listen to is located I listen to me or the students idling and I believe in community access but within limits so. So I want you to come up but don't right away. Don't come up right now.
Come up during normal business hours if you can 9am to 5pm if you can't do that then come whenever you can and the people here will show you around the radio station and it's a real radio station and we're not trying to hypnotize anybody. Hold on your wallets when you come up. And there's so much good programming on the station he just watches leave it get a program guide and look at the diversity tells you to touch a wire Don't do it. Yeah don't touch anything appear to me that. A fight has broken out in our production studio cold. Please. With a voice that people with sometimes at the fight the people for the microphone. So please we're serious about this. Come up and look at the station. It's something that's right you might wind up as a program director no political struggle within the radio station right now. You've probably never been to a radio station before and this is a real radio station with real people of all different kinds involved in it. And I'm 3 feet tall and. I have strange hair and hair and it's amazing my both my shoes and I can see them right in your heads really comfortable.
We all know you deos I got to I got to tell the people about the station before we sign off. This is exciting you know. We have studios right in the middle of downtown Dayton in the Victoria opera house building on the corner of First and Main. That's right in the back. Of that building right down the alley. Follow the signs. Close to Memorial Hall can't miss it. Go up and visit up there sometime. That's a group place too. Why so. In Dayton the phone number there is 2 2 2 9 9 7 6. It's a funky is beef it's to sit it it's fairly funky but it's a good place and you should go by there if you have any idea about that you have some suggestions to make about the radio station or you'd like to meet people who keep the station going and and just talking to them it's a good thing to do on a summer afternoon. For you and Bruce always welcome to come out here to the old spring studios the main studios second for the student union building at Antioch College. Bring your own.
Look around. Talk to the people. Make suggestions criticize. Give us some money. Not necessarily in that order. It's that kind of radio station that's fine. Well. You are in the I couldn't think of a better way to spend an hour and a half on early Friday morning. I'm going to miss you when you're gone. I'm going to miss you too. Oh yeah. I'm not kidding here if you do and I show my folks tourney's clowns come on when you know your wife is there. But about that $10 shit are you. I'm leavin before you get the $10 back. You are listening to. Come on Gary. W y s o ninety one point five. We're not allowed to say that we have to say it all together and start asking again do w y s o o o spring o high O
W I so Yellow Springs Ohio FM stereo etc. radio. Good night.
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Won't Someone Throw Poor Randy Thom a Coin?
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WYSO
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: WYSO FM 91.3 Public Radio
Producer: Covino, Gary
Producing Organization: WYSO
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Chicago: “Won't Someone Throw Poor Randy Thom a Coin?,” 1975-05-01, WYSO, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed September 16, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-27-13zs7jb0.
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