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From deep inside your audio device of choice In this case, the Washington Post stories acted as sort of a prophylactic for the three prosecutors headed by Earl Silbert who were prosecuting the original burglars. It kind of helped ensure that there would be no political interference with their prosecution and there wasn't.

And before the election, Silbert gave one of the burglars an offer of immunity if he would testify to what nobody turned it down. And so therefore they had no choice but to prosecute all of the burglars. They did that in January 73. And that's when the cover-up really began to crack with the letter to Judge Sirica that perjury had been committed during the trial. And they are the ones really who brought the pressure that eventually brought John Dean and Jeb Brigruder in to their offices to confess all. So they are the ones who cracked the cover-up, not the Washington Post. And they ought to get the lion's share of the credit. The media played a role. It was an important role. The story influenced Sirica, but he was known as Maxim and John already. He didn't give these huge sentences to the burglars because he read a couple of stories on the Washington Post.

So there's been sort of a disproportionate and everyone who likes to bask in the reflected glory of Woodward and Bernstein and Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman likes to give a lion's share of credit to the Post. The legal processes, and I think that's what we have to remember today. Robert Mueller's investigation is going to account for a lot more than any of the stories in the Post today, tomorrow or a month from now. Given what you've seen of the way a president who was seemingly fairly serious about wanting to short-circuit the investigation of what went on during Watergate and how that played out, are you optimistic that the FBI and the prosecuting arm of the Justice Department will be able to fulfill their responsibilities in the way that your previous answer assumed?

I think so. I mean, I don't know the guys in office today like I know the one, the players then. But if there anything like Angelo Lano, who was the case agent for Watergate or prosecutors like Earl Silbert, who's one of the most upright men I've really ever met, you know, I think that we are in a good place because I mean, you know, the leaks come out of the bureau because there's a lot of institutional pride there. I mean, they're not going to be dissuaded from investigating by some White House clown calling them up and saying, don't do this or don't do that. I mean, if they would be so rash to do that. Nixon really did commit obstruction of justice. Now, I don't know if Trump is smart enough to know how to do that.

What you're saying suggests that the concerns about whatever's been going on, sort of short circling the normal processes of Americans, you know, multiferious power centers in the federal government are might be overblown that those power centers are able to work in the way they're designed. There's a lot of institutional norms that are broken only at great risk. You know, even Klein Deans, let's go back to Watergate. You know, Gordon Liddy, a day or two after the break in, ran up to Klein Deans at a golf course in Burning Tree. I think it was in Maryland and Bethesda, ran up to him, spilled his guts at exactly what happened in Klein Deans, you know, later to his regret. Because, of course, it was the reason why I had to leave the Attorney General's office said, you know, I don't want to know about this. You know, you're asking me to short circuit the investigation. I can't do that. What do you think I'm stupid?

But, of course, then he never let on to the prosecutor what Liddy had told him. So, if that happened then, then I mean, I don't think similar things can happen now. There's just, you know, when you're talking about the Bureau, you know, it isn't the director who's, it wasn't Komi who is doing the investigating. It's dozens of agents with several supervisors over them reporting up the chain and to think that you're going to order some of them not to follow a lead, that takes a lot of hootspa and, you know, you're more likely to read about about it the next day in the newspaper than anything else. Especially when all this attention is focused on it. I mean, the press services are prophylactic against abuse of power. This, this very much sounds like a slogan that the Washington Post could put on their under their master. Yeah.

Instead of democracy doesn't work. That's right. We were prophylactic. Max Holland, thank you so much for walking us back through these pages of history. And making the process of leaking a little more vivid and alive since we're surrounded by it every day, it's good to know this background, the least one of the most famous cases of leaking in American history. Thank you, Harry. Good to be with you. You

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