Public Affairs Program; Chogym Trungpa Rinpoche

You better make a what are the the most important problems faced today by the people of Hoppa. The new program is mascot on days when I look around this thing is why you headed up by. Is heat them up in Seattle. The biggest problem in the valley of a lot is the system of financing there or the lack of loans and things such as that. And how does that affect people's lives. If I had there in Nicaragua and I had three and one upping specifical. But only a month as a benefit. Yes. Like I said that a lot of bunco again are gone but I don't think that is the biggest problem is that there are many large tobacco farms in the Valley have a lot and banks as well

that offer nothing for the people there and a hundred people make a living. My idea that I had to call my mama gonna sue cause I took the hint and cut up a bowtie. They get on the bus because my butt hole is old booklet go from being a woman going booklet on the aisle. I don't know that I'm part of a bus on that sort of like work in the war you're going at it. So the majority of the people there they work in farming small crops such as corn rice to back me coffee. The larger producers are producers of tobacco and things such as that and it's very hard to make a good salary working for them.

And how many people do not have work. Peons who want to put on an old unit about. I.e. the Gussy accent but if you are at the. 11th they can know that they sent a booking until about. 60 percent of the people and the value of a lot of don't have any work. And what is the central government in Managua are doing to help in this situation of such great economic difficulty. He will go be I don't know in Managua but I hand the people the protester. In a moment don't know government didn't work. My being gone but he got the satellite but he. Lost the case on putting out these warning we're going to lay you know not us in the. Playoffs. But being on the other hand to not be in the play oh so awkward.

You know they meet in the field of being other than legal. But I would not have been there when I get up with the government really isn't doing. They're doing absolutely nothing for the people who are the poorest in Nicaragua. Their interest are more and privatizing businesses there and in helping people who run larger businesses and one of the results of that is many people many poor people are going to countries such as Costa Rica also Honduras to search for work to support their families. This privatization is supposed to create more employment. Are there people who have gotten jobs working on the private farms or other businesses. So with a mentor to do that with us we own that amount about hope I had today and it got to go and I had to pull over there. Hi I'm going to hand ticket

in it to buy a whole you know I think oh so ya. See. And I think of it a lot quite a bit oh one of them and they use nor want but when I do you can see why I think I mean I didn't go well. So if there are people that do work on the back of farms and Nicaragua but there aren't laser arms are there aren't laws that really protect them. The work is only for a few people. Has this been the situation always in home or is the current situation different. We want to set the washing on all of us a pediment I say it as it was you know. It does it to us here on our already economic might be unbroken inside a book.

And my You'll look though a common ordinary think went up what if he and I. Good diet book ICM but I love it when I get home article voter you know within them and you not hear me until it's open even more you're bored. But I'll call them in the order you know them a great deal but I come and set up with some of them that will and then we get on the. Right book or call me the book is holding up a little but they like you you know so the production of tobacco one of the things it's doing is of course there's less land available for food production in the valley. So that has been a great problem in in the valley Lapa don't indicate we're going to exact comment of where on the MPAA the problem of quando

common common problem in a on your part to handle it but only I'm not hearing any of that unduly. Then you need to go yet in the. I've no doubt in my mind that really that I don't must but I would get better. So the problem really began with a gun. The current government of Arnaldo on Amman and Nicaragua which they entered power in 1906 so the problems began then. What effect did the hurricane have have there been lasting effects of the hurricane on people in Hoppa equatorial effect O'Day who took on me which in part I had there yeah. How do. They but they go yet in the you know in England Auckland field I feel better. Look at bus I go yet in the hole in the little garden. So must I need to leave it out is it a lot though.

COMO ME UP out of the portal OK so underneath that your daddy government has not been very supportive of areas such as a lot but in large part because Hopper remains an area that's very pro Sandinista and the current government are not a lot of Mon is the parties called the Liberal Party or the peel city and so they just have not been very supportive of the people there who are basically for political reasons. I think that most people in the United States really know very little about the situation facing people in Mikado or in the valley of helle Oppa what are what are the things that people here should know about the lives of the people of Nicaragua. In my area that I had to key on this was doubtless a needle on a much of a sort of coded us at the watching on economic loss it was going on and headed out to Nicaragua KPN tooth decay of course of the most important is this you know

I had a key and in those times when you know. The apartment that you knew that I was going at its own bit of a store to bring done been there and will only receive the order to go and you better fill in the void out there. What are you going to being done being in that bus. Cool. Look at you I don't always get. A look at those when the women. Since YOU LOT of O'Connell say don't buckle mindlessly took you in and it got I. Believe I read it I got to go on and I got out of that what I did and got on the float a lot of fun. Dunn and his visited various parts of the country while he's been here and he has it at Oregon and Steamboat Springs here in Colorado and one of the things that he

thinks is most important is that people come in delegations or you know a little bit more learn a little bit more about the rural parts of Nicaragua and learn a little bit more about the rural parts as opposed to the cities and the urban parts. I'd like to get. We just got a minute left. But really the the. The Scituate Well I guess. Perhaps the most important question given the time is. What how is the situation going to change what hope do people in Holland a have for an improvement in their economic situation which would be the basis for returning to the lives that people did have before. You don't have a KP case on case on us to get it out as part of the

case but on a 10 in my hand. Thought it meant they like going into it like you and I get saying what you. I thought in the mental anguish that gives you and you'll only got Arwa you. Don't want to let me look things up in a proxy my looks you want to say still not going to hold up a lot of the new Idol where a little. Bit but they don't rest Gandi that those. He. Will be what will the new Lord take a. Look at a most gay settlement one book. But I only cook where they thought I thought put it. This way you want but a good thing to boil to think when you. Think when you know

you're going to throw in a. Good while yet in the up all the servant water and David on his local more. Or you're not on the menu look I don't recognize that the most hopeful thing would be if the possibilities for the Sandinistas to return to power which is possible in the next election which will be this November their candidate Daniel Ortega who has been nominated. What would you call the pre the presidential process so he will be the Sandinista candidate again. Donaghy also said he has he's 56 years old and he remembers the Sandinista times as the era when the government of Nicaragua care the most about the people in the rural areas and the poor people of the country. Great other other questions I should ask. I'm. Going to kick it up I think I don't. They had us it was you know on one

of my uncles going to put out some old pick and you'll put a handful in Nevada there he up and up the border a piece of medical to get on put him up again you'll get it that the guy don't focus what good is Will. I was asking it perhaps he wanted to talk about the situation of how difficult it is to get small loans in the valley at low interest rates which is of the greatest but most pressing need for most of the people there. And we did have something like the cut of their support of liberal thought it looked like an approach toward a common glass. You're cool you know you got a really cool in the poets and but out of the theater one of them or the ones on the lookout and that a man's on the. Corner thought I think there's a ton I know I want to by law to put a bunk up again you know but I thundered exceeding wonder by local more likely to die like the biker dude I'd like you know at the end they think when property and the mother look at on up I thought I'm not a.

Lot Of course I get it done. Where did you go out on a month and I mean by Law Order. Yes of course I sleep with Gwendolyn up under you through you but if you look at the whole debate that we do and. That means that the other one and both are you know annoying. This is an important issue for the people of the law because it's one thing it's very difficult to obtain a loan and also when you do obtain a loan in Nicaragua the small banks there or the larger banks as well usually use the land as collateral for. For such loans. The current rates are 18 percent and if you miss a payment on those loans and they raise to 20 21 percent and this makes things very difficult for the people there in Iowa. And in all rural areas of Nicaragua but specific as well since the Nick is from there.

What role do the foreigners play in now in the valley of the lop a little second hand and up in value to Hopper were No. No longer little more than this guy you want your them this in that moment. But no you don't God will know what I mean more. More or. Less I say I hold a part of the protocol he and mock at the World Cup as he does here on the board with and I would be a fool to do unless you were on the board. You are you see in the cup I suggest you on this. Evening and got a medic on the with a documented with that OK local No 0 0 0 more going to go. This will now look at what I sent on them were properly put to tell you a lot of their Look

must bow to the head up I'm going to be there Monday. I walk without really. Being weighed up OK you go or they bring the second idea if we don't know you I'll bring it. What I would give him are you going to be tomorrow already or to go on your own. Well you said it would be nice but I. Let it you know. But I guess I really like the book but I like going to meet you. OK. The foreigners that are currently in the valley of alaap there are a few people from Holland working there. By and large there aren't many foreigners actually living and working in the valley a lot of however they have supported several of the organizations there so some of the agricultural organizations and environmental

organizations there so that they've sent economic support for those done and A is aware personally of only a few people from America have been there. I work there in the valley with potable water. He's also been the host for a group of students from Steamboat Springs group of high school students who worked on the water project with me. There's also a group from Reed College in Oregon who have come before and worked on building Purina stoves which is a more fuel efficient type of stove that also transport smoke out of the. Out of the homes. They will be coming again and working with the stoves and also work on building the trains in his in his area. And then on EK Do you have some words for the people of Colorado who have been interested in what has been happening in your country in these recent decades. You don't indicate any of that I want to pull out a spot on a handy a key in Colorado.

Of course it is and I had thought he might have a Santa in Nicaragua you know. They're also CentOS you know in terms. Of Europeans looking. Good thing go with your sentiments I hope with your daughter when you win the game. And you thought meant that you thought. Thought ahead. It goes with neither of you. And then in the middle of our boil on Monday out of there like us the only part that radical the whole lot of us were mortal dumped I mean we feel emboldened or not I will be new to them and they tell you that the hate ticket that's you know I'm one of the prescient that come along are either or. But on those who only see

the president in the US and bided quite enticing quintuple field but I don't know if you look at our. People known or wrote the law under the sea in the. Old us you know by law with us the rest of her not a part of the press who are you. Well what he would most like to sort of convey to people here in Colorado and United States in general is if it's possible to come to Nicaragua in small delegations and come especially to the rural areas such as home or areas close to there such as some auto and alcohol and see for yourselves the conditions are what he would like to emphasize is that it's not as useful to go through the government of Nicaragua especially because the current government takes 40 to 60 percent of the aid that comes into the country. What he was saying is that they put up signs which are very famous throughout Iraq Nicaragua other presidents put them. All over the country saying works not words. But that's not the truth of what happens with the the funding of the donations that

come into the country. So essentially done in ACC I would like to establish more one on one relations between the peoples of the United States and Nicaragua and particular. Order them in the middle. Not a whole year on I will not call moments in our lives that I am playing women a lot of the lark you say leaving a lot of what I meant to come away saying or maybe endorse I don't think will take and really like the moon and it wound up with a Killers or those who need to get up with your toes will neither be Vince will moan bully that we kids don't buy only got our war in the settlement tickle my love possible more talk without

revealing what he uncle saw it will not cost or whatever they like. More to me I'm going to go yet I'm the one that they hate us and they meet us doing it but ok when when up but it's one that we got I woke up went out and thought was we need a political look at you in the media OK by the look on Battle get up us on the way up into your living room you know look at the bus on you so you know again you're like Tempus that groups that come they're able to see for themselves the reality of the poverty and the situation in Iraq. And that's a very important thing to see the kinds of things that go on in the country in terms of the poverty and compare it to the the wealth that you see here in the United States. And also to sort of understand a bit more what the government of Nicaragua is currently doing the kind of tricks they play on the poor there and the difficulties with people who need to go out of the country to work

things such as that done it. When we talk about what I put on muscle cars. Thank you. You will see a court that you look at least to me went up but I didn't really want to hit the Occulus or those were you and what you're through motor will new idea better so imma see it when I get out the cookie and I'm with you. But it's a little it's a little company to be seen. That is so he said to me sort of the other lucky you know you see in the bookie come leasing the coarseness will get us you have been under oath there. Sure OK he's trying to say that he was very grateful for the opportunity to speak to people today and tell

them a little bit about the situation of such rural areas as he has he lives in and had an opportunity last night to do a presentation with me and so people could see directly what kind of poverty there is that exists there. So. Again to emphasize I was very grateful for this opportunity to talk to people here and ask you.