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Stand by this and other NPR member stations and by a grant from comets retailers of women's classic clothing and accessories through stores and catalogs. 1 800 to 2 5 8 200. This is NPR National Public Radio and this is member supported New Hampshire Public Radio stay tuned at 5 o'clock for New Hampshire daily coming up programming. New Hampshire Public Radio is made possible by over eight thousand contributing members and by grants from Randall Benteen associates providing leadership training and organization development consulting throughout New England helping people become more effective. And the First National Bank of Portsmouth with a six full service banking offices in Portsmouth Hampton Newington and Greenland and House source providing you with health plans for today and tomorrow. This is doubly BVO eighty nine point one in Concord and Manchester at operating translators w 2 1 2 1/2 in Nashua at ninety point three N.W. To one 380 in Keene at ninety point five. Coming up at 5:30 it's ALL THINGS CONSIDERED at 7 o'clock Navi will be in with music. Here's a look at the weather for tonight variable cloudiness with a few evening showers most thirty eight to forty
three with a light wind mostly cloudy on Tuesday highs in the mid 60s with a light wind variable cloudiness Tuesday night lows 40 to 45 degrees. Wednesday partly sunny highs 65 to 70 and looking ahead there's a chance of showers on Thursday it will be clearing on Friday and will have fair weather again on Saturday. Highs in the period in the mid 60s to lower 70s. Cooling into the mid 50s and lower 60s on Saturday those will be in the mid 40s to lower 50s on Thursday falling falling into the 30s on Saturday. Stay tuned now for New Hampshire daily with Martin MURRAY It's 5 o'clock. From New Hampshire Public Radio this is New Hampshire daily for Monday May the 7th 1990. I'm Martin Mari. On today's program our weekly legislative debate featuring Representative Donna scientific
and State Senator Wayne King language commentator Richard Lederer has a pop pun quiz. And Dr. Harry bird is nominated by the governor to be the next Commissioner of Health and Human Services. I've always been interested in. Government or in state affairs. And it's an opportunity for me to do something very serious. I think I've always wanted to do. I'm sure I get more out of it. You know first news. From National Public Radio News in Washington I'm Corey Flintoff Latvia's parliament today elected a pro-independence Prime Minister Yves Ares God man as a deputy chairman of the nationalist Popular Front Party was elected by a margin of three to one. The vote came three days after the Baltic republic joined Lithuania and Estonia in declaring independence from Moscow. The May Day celebrations in Moscow last Tuesday with a scene of unprecedented demonstrations by unofficial groups have been allowed to take part in the parades for the first time. But now
President Gorbachev has condemned the protests. Bridget Kendall reports from Moscow. President I shall talk to the audience of veterans and military officers perestroika was reaching a critical stage and in a veiled reference to the troubled Republic. All three of whom are now pressing to break away here in such a fast way of ambitious future plans including separatist clowns who think the current atmosphere of openness to pursue a policy that would lead to a deadlock. Referring to May Day when he and his colleagues were eventually forced off that podium when faced with a hostile talk hard to criticize something I consider extremist and dismissed the demonstrations of old fashioned given to an audience of skeptical generals and war veterans. It's not surprising President Gorbachev chose to condemn his Democratic critics of Maine today. Well independent minded Republican. It seems that much of the pressure on him to take a tougher line against those who challenge him is coming from the Soviet military. The BBC's Brigit Kendall the White House today repeated its pledge that budget talks with
Congress will not be limited by any previously stated positions. NPR's Philip Crockett reports from the White House when President Bush and congressional leaders decided yesterday to hold talks aimed at reaching an agreement on the fiscal 1991 budget. They outlined three operating principles. One there are no preconditions. Two they won't negotiate a budget in public and three they will continue the process as long as there's a chance it'll be productive. The administration's agreeing to no preconditions has led to widespread speculation that the president is softening his read my lips no new taxes pledge. When questioned about that White House spokesman Marlin Fitzwater simply repeats that there are no limitations refusing to give an interpretation. Meanwhile Senate Democratic Leader George Mitchell said he detects no change in the president's opposition to new taxes until this Crockett's at the White House. The White House also said today that President Bush will veto a bill on Family and Medical Leave if it
forces larger employers to provide the benefit the Family and Medical Leave Act would require businesses with 50 or more employees to offer unpaid time off for the care of newborn newly adopted or seriously ill children. It would also require unpaid leave for personal health problems and the illness of spouses or parents. The Dow Jones Industrial Average gained 11 points today on Wall Street to close at twenty seven hundred twenty one. This is NPR News. More world and national news later on ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. This is New Hampshire daily Good afternoon I'm Martin Mari. Ever since the commissioner of the Department of Health and Human Services announced she would be leaving that post. There's been speculation about who would be her replacement. Today the governor put those questions to rest. Leslie Bennett reports the Department of Health and Human Services Commissioner Mary Mongan announced in February that she would not be seeking another term in April Mongan left to go on vacation. At that time the name of her successor had not yet been released. Governor Judd Gregg announced this afternoon that Dr. Harry bird president of the clinic at the
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center in Hanover will be taking over what he calls one of the most challenging jobs in state government. We're just extraordinarily lucky to have the public service. I think it's really dramatic. Dr. Byrd says he was surprised when the governor offered him the position and at first told the governor he didn't want it. After thinking it over he decided running the state's largest department wouldn't be all that different from his work at Dartmouth Medical Center. We have a history of always having desires and worthy programs that far outstrip the resources. So it's not a new feeling for me to see one by one of many very excellent programs that we'd like to support be supportable at something less than desirable.
Dr. Bird has taught clinical anesthesiology at Dartmouth Medical School since 1964. He graduated from Harvard and got his medical degree from top to 958. Dr. Bird says it's too early to outline his exact game plan but his first step will be to gather information. Probably the first thing I try and learn about it to learn more about the divisions and make it learn more about the issues and I suspect that would start with going to the current commission very Mongan. People like the police and others whom I've known over the years and get their views and try and find out exactly what it is that they were and what their problems have been and then look at it from my own point of view. The governor says he has a very clear idea of what he would like to see happen within the state's Department of Health and Human Services the state's largest department. Basically we've talked a lot about how to reorganize the department. They're taking a look at reorganization. What I hope
is that we can get our spending through efforts and initiatives in the area Bird says in terms of priorities. Everything will have equal weight. Until he can determine the top issues in the state until I learn more about the department every single part of it is a priority to me from children to mental health. I have no way of putting relative value on one need over another. I'm sure I'll have to come to grips with that but at this point I think that would be again using my ignorance to state where I thought I should be outgoing commissioner Mary Mongan has agreed to stay on until October 1st in order to help Dr. Byrd familiarize himself with his new responsibilities and to make the transition as easy as possible. The Executive Council still has to approve the governor's appointment before Dr. Bird can officially begin. I'm Leslie Bennett and we'll talk with the ex Commissioner of Health and Human Services Dr.
Sylvia deploy. That's coming up later in the program. A German born photographer known for portraits of famous people has died in New Hampshire. The state she called home for the last 35 years Lata Jacoby died yesterday at a retirement home in Concord. She had lived in New Hampshire since 1955 when she moved to Deering and opened a studio there. Some of her most famous portraits were a physicist Albert Einstein who she photographed at her studio in Berlin Germany. Planning for the redevelopment of Pease Air Force Base appears to be moving ahead from the sea coast. Liz Richards reports on the latest progress the consulting firm charged with developing new uses for Pease Air Base in Newington which is due to close in January delivered aid. Phase 1 reduce planned to PS redevelopment commissioners today in Portsmouth and will present the proposal publicly tomorrow. Project manager Don Graff of Bechtel Corporation said the plan has turned out to be a combination of several earlier proposals but not anyone.
But it's part of all four. It's made up that it included. The previous four as well as perhaps some of the earlier in the sky those proposals included an international air cargo hub a tourist park and a high tech industrial center. Graff said the Phase 1 plan includes the best elements of several different option reporting for W.. Richard will talk with an old commissioner about a possible new commissioner. That's next on New Hampshire daily programming on New Hampshire Public Radio is made possible by over eight thousand contributing members and by a grant from Princeton associates of Portsmouth delivering advertising marketing and public relations services to discerning corporate clients throughout northern New England. Earlier today Governor Judd Gregg announced his choice to lead the State Department of Health and Human Services. He is Dr. Harry bird director of the Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical
Center the Department of Health and Human Services has been in the public eye of late weathering a storm of controversy concerning some of its responsibilities and methods. Dr. Sylvia do poorly of Manchester was commissioner of the department in the years 1983 through 1985. Dr. deploying five years isn't so long I guess but a lot has changed I suppose is the job of Commissioner tougher today than back then. Well I think it will be so much more challenging because we were in the time with Governor John Sununu when the economy was really on the rise. A lot of work going on in India as to civilization and mental health and working with people developed with developmental disabilities. So I think now that the budgets are a lot tighter it's going to require a lot more difficult decisions. There has been a tremendous amount of attention on the department in the last year or two and a lot of criticism attached to that attention mainly in the area of child abuse prevention. Has that criticism in your opinion serve been deserved. I don't think so and I think that everybody has been working very diligently I think there's much
more of a focus now on child abuse as that focus should be. And I think when times are a little tougher and a little more challenging there's more of that going on. And I really want to would want to come in the department for the work that they have doing and for being frank be very open about what's going on and trying to make the changes that need to be made. Has the recent criticism again in your opinion threaten the department's ability to perform its duties. I don't think so I think it has brought a different focus and it's probably put a lot more pressure on people but certainly from my work within the department and in the area of adult and youth services both. We just outstanding state employees the Health and Human Services Department is the state's largest doctor by far with the largest budget a multitude of employees and programs. Has it perhaps grown too large too quick too fast. I don't believe so and I think you need to take it one division and one section at a time and when I look at the span of control that the commissioner has I think it's not any
larger than would be the span of control in any major corporation. So I think I have she has been well served by having department directors within the various divisions that are experienced and committed. And I really think that Mary Munger did an excellent job as commissioner. What do you think doctor should be changed about the department if at all. Well I think it needs to be examined once again it's priorities and it's more simple to make decisions when the money seems to be flowing more freely I think now to re-examine again what are the goals of the department and what's the best way to achieve those goals. And I think really that the new commission is job is going to be to really identify the things that need to get done and to make the commitment to go to the state government to go to the governor and the legislature and push for the monies that are truly needed to get the job done. You're familiar with the governor's nominee Mr. Dr. Harry Byrd. What sort of department might we see under Dr. Burns.
Oh I think you're going to see a very well very well structured. Department Dr. Bird comes from a very strong management background I think he's done an excellent job with the Hitchcock clinics and I think he is really a superb choice. You know we talked earlier about the heavy criticism the department has withstood recently. Let me ask you Dr. deploy what some people may be asking Dr. Bird the governor's nominee. Why would anyone want the job. Well because it's there and it needs to be done and I think Dr. Bird is the kind of person that understands what the needs are out there. I think in a very positive way that he can get the job done and I'm delighted that the guy has that kind of confidence in him assuming that he is confirmed. Do you have any advice for the next commissioner. Well you know what they say about free advice I would simply say that he should use the resources that are out there and remember that he has a lot of friends and a lot of supporters out there I for one who would be happy to help in any way that I possibly could.
Dr. Sylvia De Queen of Manchester was commissioner of the state's Health and Human Services Department five years ago. Thank you very much Dr. deplane. Thank you Martin. Appreciate your calling. The latest session of the state legislature closed on a somewhat peculiar note last week when the house sustained a governor's veto of a bill proposing the construction of a new state office building. That bill also contains other projects that the governor did favor the turn of events is the subject of this week's legislative debate with Republican Representative Donna scientific and Democratic State Senator Wayne King. Donna when the governor vetoed a House bill 11 82 which included a bomb for the construction of a new state office building this past week he made a savvy political move and a very poor public policy decision. He took advantage of the public anger over his tax increases and beat his chest about fiscal responsibility knowing full well that there wasn't
sufficient time to educate the public on the economic and policy reasons for building this office. The office building should be built now for two reasons. It makes good economic sense and it makes good public policy sense. You know as well as I the bids on public works projects are coming in at almost 20 percent less than they were two years ago. Add to this the benefits of a large public project that serves to ameliorate some of the effects of our slumping economy. And that should be reason enough. But on top of that consider that every year the state lays out one million dollars for the rental of private office space right from the beginning this building produces a cost savings and over the term of the bond that savings amounts to almost 20 million dollars. Yes these are difficult economic times. And at first blush this office building would seem extravagant but let me put it in layman's terms if I were approached by an automobile salesman who offered to sell me a car at 20 percent below what it would have cost me two years ago I'd look at my budget see that it meant an additional expenditure on the bottom line that I couldn't afford and I'd show him the
door. However if that salesman offered me that same car at 20 percent below cost and showed me that it would cost me less than the payments on my current car I'd ask him where to sign. It's just good business to look for ways to reduce costs. The office building also makes good policy sense since it would allow for the first time to consolidate environmental agencies in one location rather than making citizens troops all over conquered to get questions answered. Probably wouldn't hurt that they'd be communicating with one another as well. I understand the temptation to make political hay in an election year Donna. The governor saw that chance and took it as a charter member of the Read my lips club he once again substituted rhetoric for good business sense and ultimately cost taxpayers twenty million dollars. Donna leadership requires that we look beyond the politics of the moment and believe enough in the people of our state to know that they will understand if they're given the facts the facts in this case support a new office building when a bargain is not a bargain if you can afford it.
And New Hampshire can afford a 9.4 million dollar state office building this year. No matter how convenient it might be to have all the bureaucrats talk neatly in one little place instead of scattered around Concord. I just can't see this is a priority at this time. We're already paying over 70 million dollars this by any m for debt service on past capital projects. This is no time to take on additional obligations without knowing where the money's going to come from. But to be honest the battle of a House bill eleven eighty two really wasn't about an office building at all. It was about power and who could exercise it the best. The Senate won the first round by taking five House bills hostage until the House caved in one night and agreed to add the office building to a bill containing a lot of other popular projects. The next round was won by the governor. He vetoed the bill as he promised and he was successful in getting the house to sustain him by a very wide margin. Round three was a victory for the house. When the members voted to suspend the rules to reintroduce the bill without the office building. The new bill is going nowhere unless the Senate agrees to accept it.
Now I am sure the public is scratching its collective head wondering why commonsense isn't a little more common at the State House these days. We've all had our fun flexing our political muscles but now there are 18 other projects waiting and we're going to end up with nothing unless the Senate comes back to take up the new bill when it takes two to tango. The House has taken the first step. I hope that the Senate will show up at the dance. Donna let's talk about common sense. It will cost nine hundred thirty four thousand dollars to service the bond on that building in the first year. That is less than the 1 million we are currently paying in rent for office space. So it's a cost savings not an additional expenditure to the state of New Hampshire. Now I agree with you that the process completely fell apart during the last few days of our session and that the Senate probably will come back and try and deal with the house. But one never knows exactly what's going to happen in the last few days of the legislature.
And I expect that we'll all be kept wondering for a while when I don't know whether you were in within earshot of the debate when we were talking about the cost benefit analysis of this office building it was like the Battle of the accountants the Legislative Budget assistant who worked up his numbers showing. The financial impact was one thing the governor's people came up with another outcome. That's why the House when it had this office building bill sent it to study. I think that kind of careful analysis needs to be done so that everybody looking at the same numbers making their budget assumptions based on the same data. And I won't rule out the possibility that it may be economically viable to construct an office building sometime in the near future. It's just that there wasn't sufficient information that everybody could agree on the same assumptions in time for us to act on it before we went home last week. Let me finally say Donna that the House and the Senate have both decided over the years that the governor was not going to have a line item veto. And even though I support a line item veto
for the governor we have decided collectively that that is not going to be public policy. What the governor asked us to do was to allow him to exercise a defacto line item veto. And the house fell right into line and followed along with the governor of the Senate said no we're not going to allow the governor to have a line item veto in this case and that the governor has to accept the bill as it's written. I don't think the public cares a whit about the line item veto what the House did was uphold its original position. The house when we had a clean vote on the office building bill only had 81 votes out of 400 for that position. The governor by vetoing the bill gave the house the opportunity to restate what it really wanted and it was the 18 other capital projects in that bill and not the office building right now. Donna saya Tak and Wayne King debate issues of concern to the state legislature Mondays. In today's language commentary Richard Lederer proves that New Hampshire really is a punny
state. Puns can show up in the darndest places even places. Groucho Marx once turned an elegant pun on a city name when he said when shooting elephants in Africa I found the tusks were very difficult to remove but in Alabama the Tuscaloosa got cold bath a teacher at Lakota high school has gone farther north and out and invented a clever game of New Hampshire geography. I'm going to share that with you by offering the names of various cities and towns in the Granite State. And you are to match each name with one of the punishing definitions from Scott callback that follow. For example Woody's city. And the answer to that is wins. So with this in mind here we go I give you the pun and you give me the New Hampshire city name non vintage wine Newport
wood residue territory ash land anglers collection Hooksett or Hooksett just built palace New Castle. And I realize I'm probably not giving you enough time but maybe you can plug in the some of these flowers die in Wilton chair maker's job Kanan happen into a famous the power tilt. GM Chrysler or Ford or for a jolly truck. Now you might be able to get that. It's also the name of my street Mary Mack beach bag sandwich tailored for Bill Fitz William gunfighter Magruder funeral.
Dan Barry by pretty far out. Lupine a hole in the ground Wolf. Baro was just out there Wolf. Kiln operators mill you Potter place reasonably priced resort. Summer's worth reasonably price better A or Brett Bray I guess Tamworth. Here's a cute one bull vs. hog. Gore that is Gore ham if you see it. Irving Berlin or Berlin road for bunco artists. Conway. Redline on tack ometer Warner see it warns you lower on IQ scale.
Dumber. Float a four poster bed Ford. A huge laundry load. Washing time. Putting the chain together. Link it. Male cabinet owner. This one but a big big city here in Manchester and finally fruit Hart lime center. Well thank you to Scott cold bath who has certainly proven to us that New Hampshire is a punny state and that puns are truly a rewarding experience. This is Richard Lederer and if you have a question or comment on a language write a Richard letter in care of W. E. VO 26 Pleasant Street Concord New Hampshire 0 3 3 0 1. Business news is next on New Hampshire daily. Good evening this is David routed from PaineWebber in Concord following a strong market in
Tokyo stocks modestly today in quiet trading. Bonds however were down Jones Industrial Average closed up eleven point twenty six point twenty seven twenty one point sixty two Standard Poor's one hundred close to three twenty two point thirty one up one point sixty six and the Nasdaq index of over-the-counter stocks closed for thirty one point twenty three up two point sixty two. Gold closed in New York at 370 130 announce some individual New Hampshire closings were AT&T 43 8. Down an eighth digital up a half was eight and a half. Chichi was up a half as well echo the 64 quarter IBM was unchanged at 110 and a half. Public Service of New Hampshire unchanged close to 3 Tyco is down 8 to forty five and a half chub was up one a quarter a seventh three quarters. Not accept 3:08 close to eighty two and three eights. James River was up a half a 24 to quarter AIG American International Group 88 3:08 up a half. National Corp. up 3 841 North Star 20 in three quarters
closed up 780 A.K. was up a quarter of two and three quarters in New Hampshire savings closed down 1 8 at 780. And salary the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed today up eleven point twenty six point twenty seven twenty one point sixty two. Volume was one hundred thirty two million seven hundred sixty thousand years. This is David Rohde reporting from PaineWebber. And now for a look at whether this weather report is made possible in part by a grant from Johnson and Dick's fuel core suppliers of petroleum products throughout New Hampshire and Vermont partly cloudy tonight with a few evening showers possibly flurries in the north country in the mountains. Lows overnight around 40 tomorrow cloudy highs in the mid 60s tomorrow night. Partly cloudy 40 to 45 Wednesday partly sunny high 65 to 70. The extended forecast. Chance of showers on Thursday clearing Friday fair skies expected on Saturday. Currently atop Mt. Washington 27 degrees it's snowing there Concord cloudy 58 Portsmouth and the seacoast brief shower Forty nine degrees
Nashua cloudy 58 in the Isles of Shoals 47 degrees. In sports the Bruins are two games up as they prepare to meet the capitals in Washington tonight for game three of their best of seven Stanley Cup semifinal series in Baseball Tonight the Red Sox open a series in Seattle with Greg Harris to start for Boston against Eric Hanson of the Mariners. The Yankees take on the A's tonight in Oakland and the Mets will front Frank Viola against Jim Clancy of the Houston Astros at Shea Stadium tonight. That's New Hampshire daily for Monday the 7th of May 1990. I'm Martin Murray the engineer is Paul Jimerson programming on New Hampshire Public Radio as made possible by more than a thousand contributing members and by a grant from Lake Sunapee savings bank providing comprehensive financial services throughout west central New Hampshire. Buying long distance nor a full service telecommunications company providing homes and businesses with worldwide long distance telephone service and by the law firm of McLean Graff Roloson and Middleton providing a full range of legal services to businesses
and individuals from its offices in Manchester Concord and Portsmouth. The time is 29 minutes past 5:00. All things considered is coming up next. I'm Renee Montagne. Tomorrow on NPR's MORNING EDITION. Small Busters is part of this year's farm bill Congress might ban the draining of wetlands. If that happens many farmers in the Midwest will be ineligible for federal subsidies. They say it's unfair but environmentalist applaud the move. We'll have a report tomorrow on NPR's MORNING EDITION. That's tomorrow from 6:00 to 9:00 here on WEO. All things considered is funded by WEO and other NPR member stations and by contributors to the NPR news and information fund including Fleishman Hillard an international public relations consulting firm the William Bingham foundation. Little Professor book centers locally own full service bookstores for all ages and interests. And Jennifer and Ted Stanley. Stay tuned now
for All Things Considered. It's 5:30. Protests continue at Mills College in this half hour of All Things Considered. Students at Mills College in northern California are in the fourth day of demonstrations against a decision by the board of trustees to admit in the new study finds voters apathetic and uninformed candidates dodging issues and suggests that the news media ought to be part of the solution. Whatever night shelters for the homeless close for the day where do the little children go. A special day care center in Atlanta can care for a few of them. I've kind of adopted the philosophy that if if one be it a staff person on Long Island you can make a difference in just one and that's why
I think you can count that as a kind of success. First a news update from National Public Radio News in Washington. I-Man Taylor NATO's secretary general Berners said today in Washington that a unified Germany must stay in the western alliance and continue to be a base for its nuclear weapons. In spite of Soviet calls to the contrary he also said it appears in spite of weekend talks over the future of Germany. Moscow has not accepted the idea that a unified Germany be a member of NATO leaders of the world's Jewish community of called for tough action to stem the growth of anti-Semitism in Eastern Europe. The president of the World Jewish Congress Edgar Bronfman speaking in West Berlin during the group's first ever meeting in Germany said the situation in some parts of Eastern Europe is now out of control. BEN BRADSHAW reports. Semitism in eastern York Bronfman said the downside of democratic it had always been there. But with marriage being expressed freely by the government
including that of the Soviet Union saying the right things but that Bush needed action he said. The symbolic significance of the venue for this Congress is enormous. Someday they could refuse to come here. But between those two.
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