Taking Care of Business

This the rules inform me that some of them are going to hear about this because I think in terms of my mom is telling me to is my Charles Bennett black independent filmmaker will be talking with him as well as looking at a piece of his feature length film Killer of Sheep. Tonight on TCB. Good evening Alexander and welcome to TCB. Tonight we're going to take a look at the progress of the Portland Public School Board is making toward its desegregation solution for the problem in Portland Public Schools. And you'll meet a rare kind of artist at

least rare on American television. The black independent filmmaker. But first the Portland Public Schools. About seven months ago the Portland Public Schools agreed to meet a set of demands made by Portland's Black United Front organization. Part of these demands were that. There should be less disproportionate in fact no disproportionate busing one way bussing of black children. This should be a to disproportionately more frequent and more severe disciplining of black children and an end to teaching curriculum in Portland Public Schools that suggest that Europeans were culturally superior to all of the peoples of the planet. Well the school board has finally come up with this desegregation plan. But the Black United Front however is not satisfied with the plan I spoke about these problems with Black United Front co-chair person Ron Herndon and asked him why. At this point in. Looking at the plans. I think they have missed the mark. I spent more time in talking about. Racial balance. The

percentage of black students a particular school. One plan even talks about sending graduation from school to school and. The rest of town. I think that they have really had a lot of confusion to the issue that issue as we see it as one. Do black children have the opportunity to pursue a quality of education in their own community. As a test. Sure they do not. Then how do you improve the schools. In their community. If you contend that you must send black children out of their community to receive a decent education. And what you're saying is that black children are incapable of learning if they are in large numbers in a school. By themselves. And that's a very racist assumption and we do not agree with it. So we think time would be much better served and talking about how to make the schools in the black community quality schools for what ever you

decide to attend them. Because if you don't do that then you have not given the black community a choice but you continue to do that either of them go to school in your community. Or ship them out to schools that have this shown themselves to be incapable of properly educating black children. So I think that at this point the school district has told Mr. Mom. Are there any other aspects. To say specifically about this school board proposal that are that are incorrect or that. The bones of contention up to now have yet to come up with a middle school the black community. There's been a lot of talk about that and so. It's difficult for me to to understand why we're so Adams was in the black community that's new. In the past. It has never been considered a part of the black community. That's true with black children who have left this community who attend but. That is not in the black community and all of these schools as resolutions that they agreed to. Stated

that that would be one of two schools the black community at this point they have not come up with a school in the black community for middle school. Do you feel that in any other respects that school board is attempting to deal with the list of demands that were submitted to the school board that the school board agreed to meet back in September of 79. That's true. I think that they're trying but they were going about is verifying that it's not comprehensive at all. I'm going to get a piece here and a little piece of fencing about this. But when we look at the whole package just not a comprehensive plan. B. OF. Hiring the person Melber actor who hopefully will be able to recruit and. Black Administrators some black teachers but it hasn't been done yet and everyone knows that if you are going to recruit black teachers administrators you have to be there. Now you can't wait until May or June to do that because by that time people already have gotten jobs. A whole lot of training. For

the teachers and administrators in the schools in this area and in black history by cancer that's been done in a very haphazard manner. As a matter of fact no one even approached the Black United Front to say we're live. What did you all have in mind when you said that teachers and administrators should receive training in black history and culture. But they went out and got somebody here from Portland to do the job and he is moving up to this point. He did not even talk about what he had planned to do in that training. So really going about the same old fashioned way as. Daddy knows best. What should be done in this situation and I would think that after all this time after what happened this summer they would have come to the conclusion that they don't know how to properly educated black children and apparently they haven't done a very good job in training teachers about what's needed or less important in black history and black culture for blacks who haven't been able to get a good perspective about themselves and their community.

And the school system. I then asked Ron Herndon the Black United Front proposed for improving the situation. What we're going to be talking about. Ways to Improve the. Quality of education at the schools in his community. To do that. And it's no secret there's no rumors about this. You have to have an administrator who insists that teachers teach the children. And who was able to get parents involved in that process and say this is not. A state secret. This is all kind of evidence that supports that that's what we have to start. You have to have top flight administrators and there people who have proven in this case that they can educate Rochebrune who look as if they have the potential to do that. So we're going to concentrate on that specific proposals about getting good administrators. Teachers curriculum changes so that curriculum speaks to the needs of a child just to give you. One for instance that most factual and

all the way through math and you'll never see anything in a math book that talks about the contributions of black people are made in that feel. Our contention is that when you start a math course you talk about the contributions that Egyptians made and the development of math Egyptians wrote back all kinds of evidence to support that and you talk about how that is where geometry developed and that is where higher forms of math come from. When you introduce that to a child who by that fact alone more than likely will have more interest in learning math and do the same thing in science talk about the fact that the Egyptians or Africans were first astronomers they were the first ones to try to the stars. Was talk about the pyramid and the kind of architecture that had to be available to build a structure like that then it's much easier for a black child to become interested in science and we're to talk about those kinds of curriculum changes that should be all throughout. The curriculum in the schools here and also going to

talk about ways in which parents can be involved in that process and we think that if people keep those who do a much better job and coming up with ways that children can receive a quality education. DCV will be following developments with the Portland school desegregation plan on future programs. I mentioned earlier that the black independent filmmaker was a rare artist rare for pretty simple reason. Racism in the film industry for many years is very difficult for any minority person to get a job as a camera person as a writer even for that matter as an actor. In the film industry has been is one of the new wave of black filmmakers that has finally managed to break through. Charles Burnett grew up in Los Angeles. In Watts. The place where a large number of rise of civil disturbances went on during the 60s. That was his environment. And I began our conversation asking him just how that kind of environment affected his filmmaking.

A number of things happened. One I had began. To read a lot. I hadn't read before I went to school. I think you often vocational training class and. Somehow to somehow. Got involved in media. And. Think. That dream of some kind of perspective. Coupled with the fact. That the neutral environment where a member of a service is. A good coach and he just couldn't do things like leave me like I'm always concerned about being entertained because like lot of people I knew. Being in even found life amusing to me to prove everything and trying to distract from you know

conditions that through were. Living under. So a lot of. Unnecessary sad things happened. And in some contexts in terms and I think you can imagine that I would like friends of mine I the fans look up at the American people and say I am trying to explain this. You know I wasn't making fun of them. And so for you know coming out of that. Have you developed a black film aesthetic. Or do you believe that there is such a thing. There's certain sensitivities. I mean if you live in. So I never said it's an there are some problems and that is you know these guys came out of those black schools blues and so forth. And this is this is this is the difference in terms of where people are segregated and so

for the developer and so pride in having you develop a certain posters sensitivity I think it reflects an art. That mine wasn't so much concerned with because that is a sort of less than a superficial because it was really from the outside and the situation was in terms of trying to justify certain things for her. And it happens when. Someone is trying to create art consciously. They're just simply using film as a tool to make reference to a sense even though. It's in her within the process you know the camera this composition these. Are some form of some structure and also think you have to be concerned about what kind of firms it was trying to.

Get a point across if these people are human I mean you know life is like a Superfly or shaft or whatever. So people can dealing. With their own. Sense of. Reality rather like you know the things that bring them to a certain point. How do you try to solve them. And. Then help these people to resolve that you know. Committed themselves to it. I mean it was it was those issues. And the investor that was trying to make films you know about my family's situation you know people who really. Matter to the people were kind of drama. You know because you see very very superficial. And I think to them I was. Really

concerned. In a sense this is a question of when it comes to a choice. I mean you know these are you know it's. It's a message you can see people who try to do it. And I think he's traveling across the people are human beings I think in general perception. And there's a reason for that and to understand it in a certain way and to go about trying to overcome that way and that sort of thing. Do you believe that there is a. Responsibility that a black filmmaker has to the black community or part of that relationship. There is always the question of of the artist and the community. How do you feel how do you feel that works. Right I think. I think it's a staple in that sense because.

Like. If you're from a certain area and you deal with certain problems the plans that appear in it to make money. When you have to stop you know. Make a lot of dispersions and things like that abstract. From. Reality. And. And in doing that they can really. Resolve. Anything. This part of the responsibility of the filmmakers to attempt to bring a kind of resolution a suggestion for this. Yes. I mean my mom is a killer killer. I mean the focus is on a number of problems but you know in the firm and sort of continues and resolve itself. But if you live with me.

How many friends will people really resolve an ongoing situation. And so what I was trying to read was some kind of insight. People survive sustain themselves because I was I was thinking I was going to do a film. I still think I'm trying to put this thing across like what's going to be what sort of justice. I don't think you get the bottom to her problems. But my relationship to these people how I would go about trying to resolve my problems. Now let's take a look at a piece of Killer of Sheep. The story of a black man in Watts trying to earn a living for his wife for his family. At the point we come into the film he's just lost a. He just bought it fell off the back of his pickup truck it crashed he's on his way home with his friend drops his friends off at his house and goes home to meet his wife who he's had a lot of problems relating to. The.

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they guys you know. They don't. Take to him a man who drove a black man in the back and it all to me for money. Look man ain't got member my good. You know we get a few bucks that go rob a damn nickel. So. You did come anyway to go nigger. Come on. You.

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It in the film she watched it at the end of it I felt a sense of despair. A sense of hopelessness and you know when was the the main character that had the job in the slaughter house. When was it his turn to be put up on the rack and. Killed him in whatever sense. Was that a statement about that living in that kind of situation. Well I don't think people have told me how depressing the film was. Because as the past I think it's a positive because also because I mean he's a more courteous traces to this family. He's offered the opportunity to do so. He does it all

through home you know he's he's better to them to some extent he's insensitive about them. I mean he does things intuitively automatic. Automatic. I mean he has feelings and he's removed from it because of the condition. And it begins and then childhood child opens up. This could. Be. Traumatized to certain extent about how his relationships and everything about right and wrong. You know it's a. Relative thing when it comes to your family. I mean your family is to begin who grew up with that. At a very early age in a province for certain sensitive kids I mean we have to imagine that your brother could be wrong. I mean you know we have to back him as a private you know

sort of to have part of it. And this is something about the whole matter of getting into. A situation like unprepared and really having to do so because you know that's something to upset a certain sense of conflict and it's a cultural thing but you know. I think this is a part of this. Charles Burnett independent filmmaker you probably won't see sheeps in a movie theater unless it's part of some kind of art project or art program because it wasn't one of those Hollywood feature films right now he's trying to get together enough money to produce a major Hollywood film. Hope you enjoyed today's show and be sure to tune in three weeks from today March 17th. Monday 7 p.m. for TCB again we're going to be on vacation for a little bit. But during that time we

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In. Is. It is what we want to be waiting to go to Africa. And. This is what we want to be. But we're still that decision for the African American has got to come together. I made the decision for Africa. All right. Guys. We defend Africa. In or. Africa and come out and say well yes. I defend that. But still we can't give up because we knew that some of them is French I wrote for them country. So that it is America and somebody is English on this job. And so we are dealing with something within we say if we deal with it. Mean. Have. To be dealt with. Good evening and welcome to TCB I'm Art Alexander. And on tonight's program

you'll be seeing a little bit more Bob Marley. Will be a little later on. But first our first our first segment tonight is with Mr. Kwame Toure. You may know him better as Stokely Carmichael. The name was associated with the African-American rebellion of the 1960s. Since then he has been kind of underground but recently has been on a sort of campaign membership drive for his organization the all African peoples Revolutionary Party. As part of that campaign Dr. membership drive he came to Portland State University under the auspices of the Center for Black Studies there and gave a speech to a capacity crowd after his speech. We posed a few questions to Mr. Turei formerly Mr. Carmichael about his party and about the way things look for African peoples around the world for the 1980s. We were all African peoples revolutionary parties the old African People's Revolutionary Party as a mass. Socialist revolutionary political party.

Its objective is Pan-Africanism which is defined as the total liberation and unification of Africa under scientific socialism. It says until Africa is free. No African anywhere in the world will be free. Our central task as we see it is the organization of the masses of our people. We see people everywhere disorganize can rather than people come to tell us what is the problem and what is the solution. They tell us everything other than organizing the people in the African People's Revolutionary Party has taken on its shoulders the responsibility and the task of organizing the millions and millions of Africans scattered all over the room. This task we undertake because we understand it's a necessity. People must be organized in the United States.

What do you feel are some of the most important agenda items for Africa. Organization is the only one. All other agenda items mean nothing unless we organize. The vote is useless to us. For for the knives we cannot speak of any type of power unless we organize political economic social or otherwise. Therefore for us the central task is one of organization. We say to all our people today if they are not in an organization working for the benefit of the mass of the people and they are against the people. It's only through organization that we will be liberated. Everybody must be an organization using their energies to help push this forward. There are many organizations out here from the NAACP to the Republic of New Africa and everybody should know which organization they think is the one that says the way to get to liberation if they look they find it all the organization that this does not exist. That is their responsibility to create the organization is going to lead us to freedom. But everybody must be doing something in them. Or good night too many.

I don't want a more specific way and they to find institutional racism you find with some of the other roadblocks to African States and elsewhere gaining the level where does that enable them to rapidly organize. The major problem is capitalism of course we see it splinter effects everywhere. Police brutality bad housing bad schools bad food profits rising et cetera et cetera. So here we can see that the problem is the capitalist system. What we don't want to do is to make the mistake in the past of taking on the aspect of it not going for the whole central body of the capitalist system. That's our party for example during the 70s have not been involved in what is seen as mobilize activity police brutality free political prisoners were not involved in any of this because we think this is just dispelling the energy from organizing and for the central task is organizing. Once we

organize would take over the police station. But if we continue just doing mobilize activity we will for example since the scores of those boys we've been doing free political prisoners and we've come no closer to taking over the police stations. Therefore here we say we must not repeat these mistakes. Now Israel is going out to organizations once we're organized we can take on any aspect of the capitalist system any political quote unquote. This is just that America is about to be in the 60s two hours. That is just no suggestion is made by people who don't know what they're saying and made by the enemy and trying to trick us. Some people actually think that we should go back to the 60s. The reason why we're able to do what we did in the 60s was because it was the first time we didn't the enemy was not prepared for it. At the same time there was a war in Vietnam and you had African youth in Vietnam with guns in hand. Therefore overt and brutal

repression in the cities would have brought overt rebellion in Vietnam a divided army they could not have to think of repealing the 60s without making a proper analysis of the 60s to speak nonsense. Nobody goes backward in history we cannot go back to the 60s. History doesn't repeat itself it must go forwards. Therefore we must make a qualified difference. The difference we must make is a difference of all good as it should must be organized before we face a system. In the sixties we were not organized we were mobilized and had spontaneous rebellions in the 80s. We cannot have spontaneous rebellions we must have organized movements of the state if you would what you feel. If people feel this is a possibility of Africans our party has been since the last 10 years drawing this line to the African students saying that they have the responsibility of laying down the principles of foundations and must use their energies to come and organize the masses of people everywhere in the world students squark revolution in America is no difference in Iran

students in Ethiopia students in Ghana. Students everywhere you find them sparking everywhere. Students in America students must park it was here we want to spark the organization of the masses the people and the students must come forward to live up to their responsibility. I would say the same nine 10 hours as people who want to go out either. The reason is the capture system which tries to make us the shape of Africa. But just because they don't know the Africans don't mean anything you know. A few years ago we call ourselves negroes and there's no such thing. Just to show how much confusion we have with this campus system that we are Africans is undeniable. Others Japanese they call them Chinese they call them Mexican They don't call them yellow They don't call them brown where Africans

live on. Pakistani side. So this is why their countries are building it as we say and just because they were discouraged. We know there is nothing that a woman can do and we know nothing man and woman will not do for peace. But there are many countries that have taken the road to socialism and doing well Korea people's revolution Republic of Guinea where I live. Q Vietnam the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and many of the Eastern Bloc countries are making a difference particularly after 40 states. This without a specific plan. What if we don't have a lambastes nothing.

That's why we must have a plan based on the only lambastes we can have is Africa. This is the levees are the red is you suggesting that we make snow sooner or later. We have nothing against it no matter of fact when we come to face the question we face is folly. Because the American people are so confused the Africans in this country that they don't want to think that Africa and therefore the testing for them is you want to go back to Africa. Yeah. Going back into your home even if you tell me your point of view of the United States on our fears that we will get worse exploitation of is in Africa. That's what it went before. So let's not forget it hasn't changed the system is the capital system therefore it's exploitation. Mr. Kwami Turei formerly Stokely Carmichael who may yet again

regain or get the attention of black America for the 1980s. Our second segment tonight is with the most famous exponent of the Jamaican born musical form called Reggae. His name is Mr. Bob Marley's albums have sold millions of copies around the world. But before we hear from Bob Marley I spoke with Pablo Inus the producer of roots rock reggae a radio program on KBO FM here in Portland to get a little bit more insight into reggae Bob Marley and Rastafarianism the religion the philosophy out of which Marley and his music arose. Pablo could you tell us a little bit about what is Rostok. It began with Marcus Garvey as you know we we all know in the 1930s when he was preaching Pan-Africanism Africa for the Africans you know

and he prophesied that. Glued to the east. The King shall be crowned and his his job will be to unite the African nation. Shortly after that Selassie who was tough FireEye was crowned king of Ethiopia. How did that come to be connected with reggae in Jamaica. It's connection. Reggae. Is originally the Rastafari in song. It was you know it was born and bred by the Rastafari and from the early 60s when. It was their way of communicating to the Jamaican society that. You know here we are suffering and we realize what's going on and

we want people to know what is happening. So subsequently as you know is this main thing was communication. Bob Marley. As the leader or at least has the most world wide known representative of reggae. Could you comment a little bit on how he got that position and your assessment of what he's doing today. He was one of the original so well composers of Jamaican life and you know what's happening in relationship to Africa and the third world nations and being a Rastafari and from his early youth. You know. And a good writer and a performer you know that that led subsequently to tour with

elevation. So to say you know to reggae superstar in the film clip that we'll be seeing in this program. He makes a few comments about survival of African people. Would you care to comment on things that he said. Yeah he says so friable as. It's not just just you know just to live as it is is to raise your consciousness so well where are you from and where are you going. And you know what you're about in life. You know he's saying that well when black people. Realizes that you know Africa is their home. You know and they say well Africa look we recognize you and you know we want you to know that you know we think of you or brothers

you know and then we'll will Africa be here be. Ready. Possibly you know are all around. To accept us. You know as brothers and as one. Soul therefore and survival is unity. And we got to unite while we were unfortunately unable to get any footage of his performance. We were able to talk to Bob Marley just before he went on stage during his last visit to Portland. Now because his accent is a little thick you probably have to listen a little closer than usual to understand what he's saying. We began by asking him about his latest album called survival which was dedicated to all the member nations of the organization of African Unity. First of all what was the specific motivation for survival. Quest for survival at this time especially with so

much struggle. You know when you're struggling struggling to survive so it is a struggle. To survive that it. Is a reality for us to survive. Do you think that the 1980s is going to be a particularly hard time for people around the world. Well it's if black people only ever make up their mind what it means. The problem is. Because lack you unity to get pressure on the pressure I'm. Seeing. So. If. I. Know. Who. The. Black people. That knew and I said if I was harassed. Then. There's a defense team that is to get out what really is what is my count five 20 is. The guy you know dealing with God. If you're American artists like Gil Scott-Heron same. Company same perspective that we are African people and beginning to see it.

Why do you think. That scene has not been picked up by many more. American artists like American arms. Because in fact India is a structure that is very real struggle. And. Getting the people side skip destruction inside and make life much easier. So it is sometimes somewhat. Easier. But easier or it allows for a time to kind of struggle. Is. That. Bruno said Christ despite being arrested. People must know the truth and deal with it. Because if we don't deal with it you know it's judgment time. And there's some You've got to really pick. That. So most survive. So that kind it to survive. I still love. It. Isn't that tough to do is to survive losing them have to survive because it is in writing and then you've got some one to get to know because.

You know. We can't wait much longer. Do you think you been play in Jamaica for for 10 years from that. Before it became world wide. No. Do you think that the music that you played has had an effect on Jamaica itself. Have you seen change so that's. Really. Create this music I think everywhere. This is the music. People dance to me has been listening to. My music. No I say reggae music. And music and music put together. Is that deep and do you know. For someone who really did a very strong message and again with my Because God might still continue to do what I did. So the music dealt with but. Were you aware of that. How about New Guinea and the cream that the black

people in Australia have applied for membership or recognition in the. You. Know I hate to use a banjo concert announced that the last day of race as a sign of the people in the South Pacific recognize this and you want to be a light source Well that is the best thing ever. God that is beautiful. Is he embraced last night from this all you. See in this is this is where this is what everyone should deal with. The guys in America. Black people should deal with it. People from Jamaica people from everywhere. They said it and then people wouldn't know that it is true and you read it. Because we didn't know it's something. Yeah. I mean isn't that what we are dealing with the reality. Is some things hang on one person's. Look fixation on brides that if this is something that no one can stop because our nation.

And a nation of us. Yes. Right. And so some percentage will die. You know what we are is the people who did it was time Lewises feedom one. Which is a true the right to live. You. Know which way just go right to the right. Right right. I come from Rasta. You know. Because he is just said. No not it really come from rasta. I did. That. Mean. This is where people must really deal with it. Because them said. I try find do we ever need them get out of the loop on TV to read the newspaper. Move on to see the to and put them to the truth. Because the truth will not the phone near. That is why the mind said this revolution will be telepathic. And I stand. Do you think. That. You can. Well you can and you can get that message across to this generation

especially this generation because we didn't have you know Max or very few people remember. No we don't know who these guys use. It's just that. You make today especially in America where it is still up and the guys I got to see daily. I say five rust on. It. I didn't hear them talk like America. I mean maybe I can say them was my ear. For them changing the ending. I was floored went on. No our country son of a couple and the wives see it play out of these people. So it is what it is out in right. No more people were asked. No I did see it when lies about me. I said really you know for sure there is nothing left. Off Right Mind you fright because I see certain people I couldn't miss them and never stop when I just see them. And you're after.

All change and become more. Than she is. You can see my. That didn't get the gift of. Life to be like that. Because my dad was like the gift of life. And you know. Harlem continuity is chinch. You know him just. Read. The saw you know know out to. Play and. Play into people. You. Know get answers the question and answer. But are you. Concerned now. That. Especially with survival record you keep. Fighting Zimbabwe in my back yard has evolved over the years as to what you have to survive. I see no evidence. I go to Africa I go in Africa. You see every black in the West. Why. Him.

Is. This what you want to be when you go to Africa. I mean. This is what Tim wanted to be an angle. But still I that decision for the African got him to come together and make the decision Africa of Africa and I went abroad. Because. We defend Africa. But ultimately you don't really. Like Africa and come out and say well yes. I know no. But still we can give up because we knew that some of them is French I root for them country. So my name is America and something is English is German and so we we I deal with is something when we say if we now deal with it. I mean. It has to be dealt with. You know we just look at me glad to say well yes I knew. That when I fight is why I know if I can say is not just how I've survived by his wife of my love Pete. Rascal. Things. Because God country came and. Not me.

Gideon did the gun come back your leg in the night. Did I get into my mind and get your again. You know I mean saw my love make up my mind I'm counting the time. I need. Put puto. Stuff. You. No because the time is no we don't want to watch the blood clot stuff in the streets again while we suffer. No actually we saw it and yes it was fair to we know because in the end I mean we knew that we suffered to just blood. I mean care to care for her really. We can do it we can count on junkies. You know. I mean. You know plenty money ima just turn to the back because when I went in didn't get it make him forget. So forget feeling good time. You know blood clot in them can just change and then not enough. To do something in the morning.

What does not blood clot money as we tell them. Because if in the main shopping to become money because there isn't someone you know with political ties ties and. Let them know what infinite wisdom found with them for new. Doesn't mean you can take education education and can move these guys into a terrible. Teams. Yes. I mean to tell us what they want to do with the song albums will be on the street. Is this just history people. Yeah. I know you were so. You may have you ever written a song about taking African art back down got all the answers you know. At that time.

But is that true that by that when everybody here asked by creation. Here so to me in reply to your son well one of them because they don't get them. Nobody. You know I know that you know God's blood on fire. She is more. Frightened of the earth the earth turned she's like I heard him say. You know that certain guys turn and I'm God's Son. This is America somebody I've got take my time because son I mean we're looking for when this blood clot got here. No. It's sad. It's because of it. You know because God is allowed in the fullness of. So there are facts about the themes but the guy

didn't tell us that if there was a river running we're. On dry land and took had the river. It's got mean digging. Right. Why not blood clots. I will say really putting on the documentary called five minutes search. Quick. Guys hurt me. I did blood splatter. When the. Red. Light. Yes. Mr. Bob Marley reggae musician Rastafari poet. If you haven't heard any reggae music you should stop down to the store and pick up some reggae music and listen to it. It's not just Bob Marley. Peter Thompson many others that you can try to expand your horizons of the kinds of African-American music. Next week on TCB will be presenting Oba Khosa which is a Nigerian musical The story of the Ruben Skyguard Xango and how he got to be a sky god. Unfortunately this is the last

TCB for the season we will be returning in October with a whole new TCB for the summer while we're gone. We'll there will be another voice with Chuck stone out of Philadelphia and I hope that you enjoyed the series. And please drop us a line. We appreciate hearing from you. I'm Art Alexander. Good evening