War and Peace in the Nuclear Age; 2nd Infantry Division in Korea

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You know that. They may not be able. Yeah that's my shoulder. I did. OK. What kind of special situations you face. Follow up here on the DMZ every day. This element right here is the task to pick up propaganda if worked also supposed to bring out supplies any patrols that are out there for extended period of time. Also if we ever get any infiltration elements we're supposed to go out there and investigate if there actually are any or if the situation ever got serious. We're supposed to prevent them from entering into the south southern side of the DMZ. Tell me what the quick reaction force is trained to do. Well our mission is we're trained to like recover people that wander into minefields were

trained to go out and resupply people and were also trained. Do we ever have to go in close combat with the North Koreans. So we're we're trained to do everything a normal soldiers trained for us if we're to stick with a little different. When you came out to Korea was this what you expected to be doing. Not really. This is quite a bit different I never expected to be given for Jeeps and 16 men and say just wait. And just in case you get called up this is a little bit more I guess more tension. I expect to be back. I came from a small town in Kansas some quite a ways away from home and I went to West Point and I went to Fort Benning for a year and then I was at Fort Benning after a year out and I came here to Korea. I think that if it was an attack from North Korea what kind of would you think expected to train for. What we trained for it would be something that was like the last war would be a large scale war. I'm afraid are probably a lot of casualties but I don't really expect

anything like that. My personal expectation is that there is anything it will be a lot like last November's incident with the Russian defector coming across to be about 30 soldiers on both sides and to be over soon as it started with. But it be very violent. So that's why we asked such a short reaction time we're supposed to be ready at all times in case they do have a defectors in that. Theater. And conventional. Yes maybe. My expectations are we'd be. Rolling out just like a small police force and having it over with in 15 minutes. You train. Yes and no I'm I'm afraid a nuclear attack. There's just no defense for it. Most soldiers realize that. There was a nuclear attack her chances of surviving are a very small. Chemical warfare pretty much the same way we do have chemical gear. But I think most soldiers realize it's pretty hard to defend against it especially in Korea with an extreme heat. The heat is almost worse than the chemical warfare. Great. We'll look forward to whom

you are doing OK. Thank you. You can understand. What it's like to be on. The frontline. Great. I feel like you've got a purpose. If you like it can't you like excitement. I like it a lot. I mean when we roll out it's a lot of fun. It's better than sitting in the rear. It's it's like. Whenever you train you know you're training to do this. And in the army it's not like another job in the infantry. All you're trained for is to actually do the combat. And so here we're closer to it. It's more or you know it motivates us because we know that our jobs at hand kind of it's not as if it's not as much as that in war but it's the closest you can get right now. You know you've got to I mean I mean like you get during training. You know it's just practice but when you're up here on 24 hour alert you know if you're called out it's pretty serious. Kind of makes you feel prestigious too. I mean if if something goes down we're the ones to take care of it.

So it's like us and nothing we. Show we have. Backups but like we're there first so it makes you feel important. Nothing to say but we do thank. You. Oh wow we're great. You know I personally didn't even know what was going on over here. I didn't know we had this kind of force in Korea. You know Korean War 1950 you know right. I didn't know that we had divisions over here still you know still spending a year over here. I didn't expect it. You know when I joined the Army I expected you know Germany or something like that but. It's good because it's so real. You know it's like we're when we're on patrol like patrol before this group and then we're. On. Dismounted. And you. Can see. Where. Whereas we're we're kind of the mounted task force where we go in only when something happens. Trolls are

just like all the time in there. And. In that phase we get to see the whole situation you know we were on the Hill. You know we're looking and we see North Korea and we see their guard post and we see you know sometimes we'll see one of their soldiers and it makes you think you know this is it is what I'm. You know that's what I'm trained for. It's not like you know back in the States you know you train and you go home on the weekend here it's you know seven days a week 24 hours a day you can't just you know go home and forget about it. It makes you period. So and my parents were shocked when I told them I was going to Korea. They were like. They were really shocked because I was supposed to go to a status assignment and I volunteered for this to get airborne school. And I'm glad I did it. I like it here. Sure I miss home. My parents miss me and I miss them but. It's I'm still so young that you know. I got to see someone the world. And it's only a year. It's the shortest

overseas tour. But when I thought of Korea Wow. I didn't think I'd be like this when they said. Most infantry go to the DMZ which I'm involved in. Goes the DMZ. I thought it would be guarding like in guard towers. But it's not as patrols and patrols a lot of fun. At least I liked him. I thought of MASH when I first came out. There's not a whole lot of that there is. There is a certain certain kind of tension you know like everybody's got the hand on the trigger and stuff. But. I think it's I think it's an experience that every infantryman should have is being this close. If they can do a tour in Korea even though you know it's a hardship tour being away from your family in that sense is definitely you know no fun at all. But if if you like infantry you know if you like your job. This is a place to really experience how good you are at it you know and get a lot better. I came in the age of 17. So. 3:9 to

you when you get out still got time to live your own life come and get an experience what it's like. You see all these war movies but these dudes running around with weapons and now you're up there doing the same thing they were doing. Pretty interesting. Why you just think it's important to us our relations with Korea. We definitely need to keep good relations because they are becoming. A. Very unnoticed country. Their industrial output has grown immensely and it's going to keep growing. And if we don't want that to fall into the communist hands we have to stay here to make sure that nothing happens. Guess. It's. Coming up again. The American public has no.

No not at all. I don't think they know I didn't know I didn't know anything but Kareem for a chaotic miss mash on TV. That's what you think of Korea kicking your ass. I was really surprised. You know in Korea you've seen it all in the states you see nothing here nothing. So when I. When I volunteered for Korea. I didn't know what I was getting to at all. But I like it. I. Am.

So rather in the dark. I should take one. That's the. Hook. Come on I've heard that. You've got. This train board is our recon spot for the FBI's operations. They are the trained warheads ambush. So Mentzer has first recon He'll brief you on the corner of the world. Ali Khan will espie from telephone pole 29 located here sir. 0 530. Sure now about 55 degrees for 400 meters. So the train the troll supposed to be located is pretty much open we're going to have to actually patrol base by

force knowing a little bit to the right up on the ridge lines or we will arrive in 0 6 and pull up the roots of the current to the was 0 7 3 ISP. My reconned and 55 degrees were 600 meters and ten point one at Checkpoint One sir. I'll start my own recon break my group and half my deal will take half take the other and converging routes method my EPL will go up here and work these two fingers or three counting down and checking for a site that we will get back from my patrol which I'll explain over there. Sir I will take the remainder of the group I screwed up this Revisor check on my handlers try it. I'll check out the remainder of his own. We will link up here at checkpoint to forty one point two hours nine to 17 from checkpoint to 2 Check Point 3 of also cornier. Hands off weapons with guard post are left for the same boat as 19:17 and I'll go now of two

hundred and five degrees for 468 Risser. At check point three to control based on the 82 degrees for 460 meters. I know that was always a 10 $45 to free cash. Flow so sorry sir I have often had it from the probates we're taking note of 191 degrees one time that does not outwards or is down to just pack of cards post-cart checkpoint. It would take up and do it to two degrees down to 50 meters to the north of it can to the zone reconned the ambush site which soon has about. Two hundred and eighty point three sir. There could complete the zone. We're doing a force on the

cross to come back. At. Some. Point three back. And. Forth. So. If the third week. Well. Up. Speed. Up. 29. The. Controls. To. Control. Base. Going. On. Regarding. State. Sponsored the the. It wasn't obvious to us. At all times will be at least one qualified to fly in a formation. And. Move out from the top to checkpoint one checkpoint one split up into two teams. One team under myself. And the other on the move on our own we kind. Of moved down here to talk point three sir. It zigzag we can. Move from Checkpoint One down to checkpoint four sir down here

near the MSR control point walk along this route. Here's my number so I took 200 meters it's out of my sight and wrote about 2.4 2.4. I'll move now to checkpoint two same time from top point to three. Check. Point to. Hold on we can start to hear some more information. Please. Pay. Cash. Sorry so. If you're running the patrol base are you going to be talking to the talk or the patrol base. Talk to your patrol. Are you going to be talking to Dr.. Pre-cancer. OK. So with the ambush. I'll be the last call the last time sir. Sir. Sir.

The Supreme Court is located here. First I want to point to the present I'll take you right across the. I told you earlier my name is on the spot. We'll get back on. Sir. I will mark that somehow he's recognizable to have. You with his to skirt around all that lay to the left. Find a point you know are two to three Azmath. For that to be Asmaa checkpoint one from Checkpoint One. He will shoot. 142 degree Azmath to ambush site will be an ambush site one point twenty three fifty. Two. Hours. As this mystery ambush site of 249 leaves for eight hundred and forty meters to Ali's point which is this dirt road. It's the cannon structure. So if you are twenty two point forces. So. Catch. Them. Early from the base on the last one is up.

To 45. What's your take. Our producer is 22:00 reminds us that our action is sort of out there. Why aren't you with us. OK. I leave out on asthma 100 90 degrees down to one. Going into the Dolphins head again from one to two degrees. Birching checkpoint to checkpoint to the side as we set up in the ambush with the direction of fire. Sixteen trees had to be emphasized by 30. Something that. You're going to create. Something between you and your creation master meter check point three point twenty nine hundred twenty nine.

For. The last final I. Will. Call. Base here. Nothing. Was. Hard to shorten that was my personal go down to the site. Which ones do. You have 300 hours move out of the site. I do. That'll be as you see for the final good bye. Yes sir. Obviously pipe patrol base checkpoint. I'm here sir. The main coordinates for resupply and 17:30 sir. Will be the. Water. For drinking water. You might also receive our M-16 just for that time. Swap off our day time. It's gone. What are your questions for. I requested. One of the request for the child. The question. What else can you prove. Who's coming out with. Are you coming up. Polish person.

Just. Take. Your rights for us and the camera to find your mission out there. Our. Mission is twofold. We. Prevent. Information. The same time observe. Any intelligence information in regards to Allied activity. In propaganda activity coming over the loudspeaker from North Korea as well as observing through a vehicle and troop movement. Our primary mission is to stop infiltration which is why we are being set up while we fall back in. Love. All. Right.

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to magazines the tracers by pi compass. And 16 PBS to spare batteries flashlight and spare batteries sir. Fifty five degrees sir. Yes on that one and by day one was smuggled. Sorry. Sir. Cash. 0 4 4 9 8 2 5 7 10. Write to sir. A. Circuit test on the. Morning so you're going

to go. Take the template lesson camp under sandbags. To test it. Check out the fire or the clacker ones. Check out the package with the Seso still on it connected to the wire check see if you see the lights. OK only see hands. Everybody got the wrong weapon. Or why zero the weapon. Everybody has their own score cards on the table. Got 40 odd. Yes. Oh. No. Sir. Zero.

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Three is for all you're all right. Yes sir three times on this patrol you are authorized the fire your weapon. Where are they. On this. Give me the three rules of engagement. Help them out when you get one fired upon in a life threatening situation. I mean if you have truly a church member that yes. We're. Five want you go downtown to this. CBS 2 2 7 2 4 4.

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The next one check point two to check point three. Ninety. Three degrees by. 600. Meters. Check Point three to patrol base. 1 1 1 1 and 1 1. So what is it. Desert Sun move. Up to. Running past work. Kenny sir. Recognition that voice. Frequency. But evacuees 4 3 2 0 0 0 0 0. 0.

0. 2 girls. Can go fuck yourself. Go to war. It was a great. Day what a day to say. One. Day one is fair sir. Working with. Fire. Lit. Up a mile from the desert. Patrol leader by sandbag. What is your. Question. Granted sir. Leader what are you going to do. Tango one five cents back. Ask him to. Then it came from higher sir. But. You. Can only come from the Tank Man the x over the last three sir. Who. Shoots red tracers. Bruce

green tracers huge green tracers. That. Brings. Me under fire by the enemy sir. Green Smoke dark from the white smoke. In the direction of the patrol. We move off ten meters to the right of us trying to penetrate. Control where we're. Going. To get to go. To. Get.

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Now. You're on my truck. I'm Sergeant dolls briefly. We get caught on tape a cop. We are now ready to go do something to get him out of the present and put me. I mean do we get shot at. Could you show it. All right. Well if you don't get you don't get by a boy you go through it go through it with you. You go. Go ahead. Well we do have a woman who would be like me go through whatever you want me to go on to the point. Stop it. We're being shot at you want me to start from zero to set up a fight the way you want me to go patrol leader the nurse golfers are certainly friendly but.

It's not honoring the American soccer the Korean. Say loved one magazine in a magazine role in your life. They carry a weapon is on safe do not chamber around tracking software the sound barrier fiance you observed. Do not put on my radio. You might say it again. Red tracer fire impacting on the road a hundred meters in front of the truck. What action you take AAPL to follow. Hey it's tough to concentrate on the topic. OK. Let me. Read tracer fire hitting the road in front of the truck. What. About the truck sir. Or is the primary Archy I'll. Tell you what you've got to tell the talk. I'm going to tell the doctor we've been receiving red truces and we find a green stack was OK.

Maneuvering further down the road from the direction of your company commander. You are receiving a lot of crap and so far from one machine gun. Delightful. Green traces ransacking on the side of the truck green tracers at this time. What are you going to do. I. Don't know what are you sure he grunted. What type. Of $613 flirted with pop. What did you call into the pot. Calling the receiving free. Choice. And. Fighters. Exactly what you're going to say. That's what you're going to say. Yes sir. Start with contact that clears the air. For yourself what happens now the truck is broke. It just slid off road truck stop you're still receiving far from the side of the truck. What do you guys do not tell me guys the truck stop things go pow pow pow pow

pow pow pow wow. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. How do you plan that left and right securities. What's your plan. I. Have one that can work when rescuers are designated designating monsieur that's your problem. I won't work that way unless they happen end up on the ground just perfect. It won't work but you need to train your soldiers every time a situation that happens we're friends up on the left or the right to come to 30 years faces outward

irrespective of what you're doing. Only time dedicated security is when you're not shot at first. OK. First talking about be over by the tower for me. OK you're all healthy again. The truck is now stopped at your ISP. I want to see the actions you take immediately upon the boarding the truck. Once you're ready to move I wanted to move on your initial show Smith in the direction of the guard tower over there. The truck stop. Everything.

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Go. Right go. Oh you. Got this. You got to. See. What's. In. True but. He's. A. Great guy. It is now. Right. You're about to depart on your nighttime reconnaissance. OK. Knowing it you can't do a White House mess. What I want you to do just swing around by that Delta company truck. Set up an art piece somewhere off in that area. Occupied ambush along the front of that berm. Oriented port the animal point there. I want you sir one question sir illumination for lighters very dark sir. I have no idea what you're going to be tomorrow night about. So that's what you got to do with kids. In. This. Movie.

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On. Let's go. Back. And say. OK. OK. And we just put on a demonstration for you. Learn. To capabilities. Behind the scenes there's. A. Full American company a rifleman. That live every day to do that mission. For the 20 days here on that particular part of the training cycle. So you saw maybe two or three minutes worth of action. That. Is. Going on in reconning the areas are supposed to go to. This.

They've got to. All of their gear. And. Start. The. Train. Formations required. For truck mounted. Truck. So they have to learn to use the trucks. Which is. Different for. Armored personnel carriers. They. Got to go. And know where they're going to go if we have. Them. But. Would. You respond to any increase. Threat. Stay with me here. The. Whole idea. Got going. A very large viewpoint is to contain any outbreak of hostilities at the lowest possible level. OK. So the. Family John you it that we don't go there. That's controlled by a joint

security. Outfit. That works for United Nations. When it gets beyond their immediate control. What we start respond to there's a gradual escalation. The attempt is at all times to stop at the lowest level of violence possible to retain or to go back to the status quo. The idea is not to start a war yet. We're here to keep peace. And to minimize violence. This is just part of the gradual response. That. When you. Think. Of our mission here is to. Turn our. Back stop infiltration of our sector by North Koreans. What you're looking at there is our patrolling. Part of that operation. Where we send out a certain number of patrols every day and every night to ensure that North Koreans are not able to infiltrate through the American sector the Korean Demilitarized Zone. The inspection that you watch as part of that process

is a requirement great feel great officer which is a major or a lieutenant colonel and the battalion could conduct the final inspection by the soldiers going on patrol to ensure that all their equipment is serviceable all the weapons zero. They have the knowledge required for the specific patrol that they're going to go on. The table which you saw defected for the relief of the area they're going into and the routes how they're playing eschewed those patrols. That was them back to me to ensure that we agreed on what we both thought their mission was. Something about the men. What you say to the OK Corral is basically a 12 month tour for an American soldier with extensions. So the vast majority of all these soldiers are somewhere between month one month 11. And we have. Obviously every 12 months a certain percentage of the soldiers leave. We get a certain percentage of new soldiers. Also if you noticed in the chat talking

to a Korean soldier tide his army may 10 with what's called twosomes Korean augmentation. The U.S. Army we have about 100 Catoosa soldiers that are integral part of this battalion. To all the nations just the same. U.S. soldiers just to the face and you're sitting out from the MDL info. You are a about four kilometers from the actual FDL about two kilometers from the south barrier fence the. Vast bulk of the battalion is housed here. We have an operations center forward and two platoons forward in the actual DMZ on guard coast. But almost the entire pre-title is located here at your base. What is the main town where your base is where they live. They eat here. They take baths here they train here the patrolling at company initiate patrols out this location.

This is the battalion so for the 10 weeks we're up there. It's. Supposed to. Try you just

watch the mine is just dipping in sometimes it is sometimes just dipping into the sand. OK. And you don't think there be any problem with gesturing I guess. Just. Now out in front of vulcanite of garbos to lead a mission from this bunker just to monitor and report North Korean activity on the north side of the DMZ. Special attention to attempted infiltration to the valley down below is commonly known as infiltration out in a lot of traders have been spotted there for the past few years. Our sector of observation you're from gorefest time several things of interest that we have to keep constant eye on.

Starting from the left you have North Korean guard post 2:19 thousand meters away when we can see two to four people up there. Now there are more important sites right along ridge line right there. You'll see about eight or 10 trees standing alone there in the middle of the ridge line just to the right of that is North Korean guard post 220. We've never seen very much activity there. Normally we see a few people in what appears to be civilian clothes. Further to the right just to the left of the story and characters. So for hill just to the left there to another town that's great to see very much activity there right there the next valley back just the top three or strictly what you they're

looking further to the right to see their stuff over here treasonous self-report is true for you too. There's a battalion size hole dug you know nailed up to the right of their lowest as the valley I mentioned earlier. It's a them right there. The explorative sister Guard service call here is maintained by the state as an observation area we have several times observation of optical and thermal imaging watching these areas in the pressure here. To aid in defense of the Bondra in the guard post became under a combat situation. Not only are personal weapons but also you'll see around us here number stakes states

the blue states numbers 34 to 42 for command detonated anti-personnel mines that could be fired from the bunker. Now a few more points of interest. Also to the north directly to the north on the large ridge line right there you'll see some some more of course in writing these words say Bunmi are against America or anti anti-American. Over here on this hilltop you'll see a small Korean writing that we looked at earlier and say you are self reliant just to the right of those characters on the ridge line just in front of their notice cleared strips that strip right there is one of five or six they go further back into North Korea. The strips have barbed wire mines are overwash about bunkers and their belief that we're here to invade them and not the other way around.

And lastly right out in front of us about 100 meters you can see yellow marker signs of a barbed wire fence out there. This is the military demarcation line. On the other side of that is North Korea you normally hear from the guard post. We can hear both North Korean South Korean propaganda broadcasts during the day you can't hear too well at night especially when we have patrols out there. They turned the propaganda very loud and nothing really out of the ordinary the first night we were here. We saw some automatic weapons fire some tracer bullets to the north of there inside North Korea. And yesterday we got a lot of propaganda that came down in this area. Nothing really spectacular. Well ma'am actually a lot of the time is pretty

boring. For example at night when I'm out on the bunker I hear I do get a little scared because there are rumors of people being found with their throats cut. I mean in years past it's something that makes me extra boredom and tension. Me as I mentioned earlier 2:19 over there which is the closest actual Corpuz to us you usually see anywhere from two to four people actually in there. We see people walking around the ridges over there and also to the north of John. You see people where it feels that the three rolls of concertina barbed wire here is just another part of the perimeter. OK. Describe to me the injuries. Yes the actual boundary the center of the DMZ the military demarcation

line at the closest point is about 60 meters over here. That stretches way further out from the tell me about this. Yes we're on the north side of the camp. We're actually adjacent to the military demarcation line. So North Korea is actually only about 15 meters outside the north boundary of the camp. It is not really because for the past 33 years there has been tensions here but everything is making relatively low key. I think that just about anything that could happen here would just be negotiated away. Now unless one side or the other decided to make it I really can't

foresee any large scale confrontation with it. What do you mean across the demarcation line. What if someone walks across the demarcation line. Well that's actually what we're here to observe and report. There's really nothing we can do about them unless they unless they make some sort of hostile threatening if they simply walk across we would report that someone said try to catch him or apprehend him. We continue to observe it. If the camp came under attack or if one of our patrol came under attack we could respond. Oh you mean to say that one of us crossed. Honestly I don't know.

But the other side I would imagine they have rather elaborate defenses but if one were to just step across the demarcation line nothing really even you they're worried about it. They know people when they're relatively well informed. So I don't think you really really worry. There's no caution or worry left or right.