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And I couldn't believe this and I when I first. When I first experienced this I would Bobby Bland and it was like if you would have the East Coast from from west to says down to the tip of Florida if James Brown was in front of you you could give it up. You were finished drawing about if he was coming behind you you still didn't drop by. They'll tell you you're already a man James coming down and every got it. Thought he could dance was trying to do what he saw Jane Brown do. You know he would come to that show to watch Jay you know slide across that floor with all that stuff. But. He was more he was a little stronger than people really realize I was. I've seen him stop rides. You were. You may not ever. Hear nobody taters and Knoxville Tennessee. I saw him stop a riot. I mean stop it. He did it in a surprise me because
I I was scared to death because I you know I saw him stop a riot that I saw him stop. Arrived in Jacksonville Florida. I saw him stop. I guess you could call it a riot. Today we're about to tear the whole downtown area and recall some things were wrong. Of some things was said. I saw him do that. But then again I also saw things that he did. For the state that he came from the two states out put it that way. And I saw all of the changes that were made a lot of people won't give him credit for a lot of things that he did but he did a lot of things. I also know that there are some things that will not be said that I'd much rather not say my self that I know happened you know.
Oh. Zip pull back a you know that I still say to me James Brown Pasha it was almost like Elvis Presley was to his audience chamber to the black audience as to what he was. That's the way I asked ops receive it that way because of the strength that he had you know his strength of IN THE MUSIC WORLD. When you talk about James Brown you also have to talk about Macy or Parker and Fred Wesley and Peewee afeard Elliston These are three people that you know I if there were almost saw Annette Jones but I still say are I'm speaking of the three people that I know most about.
Macy Oh remind you may seal is a Dr. May still remind you on his home of Bruce's own his bass may still can but he may still get much sleep to see me if I ever. He reminds me of what Paul Gonzales did. With Duke Ellington's band when he took that long long solo by Macy oak and Macy OK may still play. Let's just put it that way. Macy OK. Macy Oh make you play you make may still play may still make you play. You enjoy play work Fred. I have not found a better musician than Fred either Fred Wesley has from Bono. Fred can write. And Fred would write a lot of things to compliment Sarah Jamel place call you could play this. I'm all right discourse around what you're going to play and you just have heard a lot of stuff that he has to offer you. Pee-Wee surprise
you. He could hear a lot of things he could write a lot of things but these people were the people that got inside of James Brown. They knew what basically what he wanted but I still say it was stuff they wanted to get out. If he could get it out for all you know to say that was one of the reasons but they were beautiful people to work with they made. They complimented everybody complimented everybody else put it. There was a difference with cold sweat. And the problems Brenda but yes that was what we went back to an earlier end to take what I was telling you the fresh ideas came and you hear something somewhere. And you brought it to the bad but then you had all you have you had.
He had added I think Clyde was there then and caught what you have to hear cotch play to know what crowd was delicate I asked quite a couple of times to everyone that you did but as I look at it I don't understand a lot of. But CA had a way of his way of playing it. And but you also had a comb with drums to add to the rhythm alone with two guitars and a bass player. You know and all of that and a mix. Made it all work but there was a change because that was a fresh idea Clyde's playing and that too was Clyde that's why. That's not James's idea that's God. So yes a fresh idea that was Clyde's idea you know. If. You hear the question about different jobs different gigs you play how rich how deep. How hard I'm
trying to get all these words together now. But we played the Olympic theater and Paris and I have never seen. One other place other than past of Yankee Stadium. But I have not seen the group was so hard in Paris that there were people that were completely out of it. I mean there were people that were literally out of it I mean the groove was so hard and so good. I can see that show now. It was just. It was so hot when when we stopped we couldn't stop. We had to play some more. We played almost 30 minutes longer after we had that they were supposed to have been over with. And I have seen people go through changes at that theater and I just couldn't believe I just couldn't believe they would done it and it was just it was that it was that groove you
had fell into a groove that you could not just walk out of as they were we cut it off right here. You couldn't do that. It had what they say how you say it and I had to just ease away. It just eased out. And and all night long after that you could still hear that power in that groove. It was there. And that's that's the only way I can explain to you. It's a high that you don't need drugs to get into and it scare you sometimes because I mean it was it was awesome. Booth accounted slated part of it as to start his watch and his foot down. He had to go to the doctor for that. He stamped his foot so hard that right foot and let time and played so hard that the watch in his foot. I guess that's what they call it came down on him. He could hardly walk on it and I mean that's how hard it was
it was so hard that he was walking and he could turn it loose. And Phelps had alone caught he could turn look I could turn to lose Jane Brown walked offstage and thought it was over when he came back and could try to lose the people wouldn't let you turn loose That's how good it was it was hot it was hot. At that age that we were playing and this woman came cross the stage man and she did. I don't think she knew where she was and she zipped that dress down and when it failed again above worldwide She was a she was that and she didn't know it. I know she did she couldn't. I don't think she really knew what she was doing because there was no one person that she was going to cost when you walk out of to come out. You know you watch people on the stage that many people.
And she was and she was just as if she was mesmerized by that we speak of crowds a stage she just had address where well. My wife didn't know that. Yes she does know that you know he dropped a dress. Wow I can see that now. That's that's amazing. But it was but that was a heck of a man you couldn't believe that group. And I mean everybody left and then everybody came back to where it was known going on you just had to see and to be there to believe it. It was good. Wow that was good. OK. What we want to do now. Oh man you're taping despite this guy. OK John you got to know what it really. It was a good quality of
play to think it played. And. What about a kid you know like stumpy on. The floor you know that's not even the way you are in the flow at all that you can play. I don't want to just. Hear. That. John I thank you and I might have got the camera but I know you're still looking at it like they're. Still in there. Thank our.
Eye on her. Thank you thank you for doing you know you won't do that and now he does. Yeah that was my answer. But you're right about that. The font to me is an attitude and a one year plan funky music there is a certain procedure a certain set a certain feeling that you have to have and the feeling is
within them. You hear the second pages of the music the separatists and the beat and I think as as a funky musician or as a so-called 40 musicians are. We have a tendency to sort of come together or form groups because we seek you know each other is to be to be able to play funky is a song like a group of. Honorary cats or musicians you know that can play and it's like I have to be a play funk is like a bad hair day is around you know they say is hi and hello. Listen to this. I can play funky music.
Oh. And I know just what his feeling seems to be like this you know. I mean what is it. Yes. What is it that makes you what. What is it again. I feel I feel good I feel comfy comfortable and performing funky music. I feel good in performing especially funky music again. And he's feeling that I have this with me. I really enjoy entertaining and I think you know as a whole there are not a lot of people that can do that can you know get on the stage and perform and entertain.
But we as a whole as a people we're like we like to be encouraged. It's almost like a Simon says you know it's it's ok for me to to you know raise money in the corrupt mind that my head is in you know sway from side to side because Simon says your dude is a is not really me. You know my everyday self is maybe in the office or in school or whatever. But now I'm in this particular club about this particular spot to have a good time. And just to not really me but I have been commanded you know to sway from side to side to clap my hands to raise my right you know buildings and hear this kind of thing and since I've been committed to do it I'm done and done it. I'm having a good time here and. Marker bones. I could sort of demonstrate the difference in a
second. Jesse calls for a poster for he calls with because in our eyes that first of all when you're in a group the front of the fucking fuck me fucking is somehow starts with the rhythm section you gotta have a funky jom pattern funky bass pattern guitar amp and guitar licks and then you know with Dan and a fucking hones. But it all starts with the rhythm section. You know if you if the drum is playing. Team thing to Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean Dean they're sort of Jessica's a straight easy and then to play with that you have to have that team to move straight for feeling team team thing. Do you blame her. Which in a sense is what jazz is just like a street team.
When our bowls a day phone you get at it. It didn't sting just went and got was like a second paid it. You still got to go do and don't want to stand back and right away your attitude is barrier to Leyden and you get a you know happy. I want to dance feeling you need a good mover and then you get that thing you did to to that date to get to doing that and I'm with that in mind you know. So that's really the difference the difference lies in the difference actually if you get real in s.t. you know playful and as it is it's always nice to know and can be sort of recognise we can
recognise other fucking musicians because one of the ways people but this is is not only our time to point funk of fun funky music. So they live in jazz. You know we have a tendency to to seek you know what we really like and seek out a musician that really like Oh he oh he's a great jazz bass player a great jazz room. So we want to sing Janis Joplin used summer just so it's the old memory bank and you go back to those people don't you know get can play really good jazz would say they having funky music you know you're right girls you know from years and years you know grass always be written play 40 rounds for you get to front for you when you get really put it together. You just think about oh you know I'm going to go I was there. This guy was a disco. This guy you know like this and you just get them out together and then you know you're a really good funky brain because you got all good funky musicians just like my father. And
when I was listening to music that's what I did for a long time I just listen. I can remember isn't hearing the meters from New Orleans really good funky do you have like a different God a different approach and if you you know we get like a funky meter you know something to to scale right on the scale that you can scale funky music there be like hold it to the top. But there are a lot of you know funky groups and I really can you know Name Name one now but I do remember you know Sly from Stone had had a tune called in time there's a mickey in the making and disaster and the good time really funky and I times when you have a style where you just sort of break it up and just have a germ or plan along and then maybe just
add the you know the bass and you know all these things are in the rhythm section you know is going funky but I think I probably played you know wood throughout the years with the fundies. But he ends. You know that there were you know in in James Brown and it was Clint and Bruce accounts. You know I've had a taste I don't. MARK Well you know I was with James Brown for a lot of years and you know once you do what you do four five six years you knew willing to do it. And after those five or six years I started maybe thinking of myself or working with James Brown. Jay is biased too since I like
as. A tenant cause a business student at a university and from time to time your students take classes in from time to time. And you graduate and just move on and just stop. And this is this is what happened. This is in fact this is what happens with a lot of people who you know you have these these type jobs at is this is statistically the work were for when you start to do something and need you to come back or you you know continue to move on. There were a series of times when I found as I was back because I would you know I get the idea may want to try something I want to do Southerners and I'm you know going to start another group. I were the group for wow did I you know got some time that came back. There and over there is always I started at James Brown's group. Oh my job.
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Rock and Roll
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Make it Funky
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Jabo Starks and Maceo Parker interview
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Chicago: “Rock and Roll; Make it Funky,” WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed October 31, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-w37kp7v39q.
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APA: Rock and Roll; Make it Funky. Boston, MA: WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-w37kp7v39q