Rock and Roll; Interview with Derek Taylor [Part 4 of 4]

OK. I don't know. Kerry then you talk about oh. Yeah the role played the part of the piece on the side. Now I was is that where the Beatle musicians but I saw them today. But I think the Beatles were. Musicians. Yeah. I'm just trying to feed back to school days right. And these are these are national show offs. I think Jamie not George in the national show. But certainly there was a healthy desire to entertain and CNBC and I don't think that I mean they became

consummate entertainers. They did this they made people feel terrific and the birds in their way as we were talking about them. It's also made people feel that it was in spite of the rock tunes to sort of be out there and doing things together. They always looked as if they got some kind of attention. And indeed I think they had but. They were entertainers in spite of themselves and debaters wide stance because of themselves to better their lives. And the Beatles more or less went along with what was required of them home right to the end with the uniforms and they played straight stadium in those famous. Tunic jackets you know and then I think the second of the concerts nobody remembers. Was a sought out share say and they had a kind of striped suit. Get a DM and here I am ready and the Byrds however who were put in black suits so they could

be Beatle ish and 65 had time off. I think they were. Within two to three weeks. I didn't decide to lose them. There's a trial back in Jane's with Crosby wearing his cape. So they were freer to experiment and. I know so they were. There in Southern California which is you know it's much more laid back than even the little bushes. It's late Actually it's way to where the grass grows perception of themselves are us getting up there with us as workers. Well I think the but what the birds were saying was We're free people and. We are doing what we want to do it was.

DAVID CROSBY It was always awkward and probably still is in the nicest possible way and he was very much see. Slightly more than a Beatle afficionado. And aggrandize. More thoughtful way. I was hooked on the tour of the record market trends to see how those. You start receiving cells seems like it's easy for the reader. Your years in the world and after sex they had done all that entertaining and they were as good as ever going to get Nobody could have become any better Beatles. My work this is they can do it just like that. This is what we do. And here we are again and another disappointing I think.

I never heard anyone. And this is not to say that it didn't happen but I don't think people were disappointed after Beatle calls another were very short. Unbelievably short thinking about it now. Half an hour since the bust some concerts today should be half an hour and I'm. I think if you have any interest I might go to some but the thought of some of these to it I don't call which is going to be twice as long as a Beatle comes. So anyway we're saying by 66 it was not much else to do games that want to screen me as it was I don't think that none of us to the end of things are telling us how they sounded so. War of Scream was probably too much brother. I did all the hassles of touring escape routes from the grounds and the huge dressing room.

While. Oh Lord what a night. We've got to get out of here. I said I'd like to hear. You say it was the first one was there it was around all these miles to do the girls think well if you like new direction. Those that. Say Oh well you know what that I've been working in the bank. Now. I don't know. That. That's a toughie. Eight Miles High. I can't remember exactly when I was I came out but it must have been up to fly to London which is what it was about and the touching down was Heathrow I was on that flight with them.

I was so I remember being amazed that you were there. You flew it a nice hi's I had to work it out. And you have me if it was. So I waited and I believed him when I said it was not a drug song. But they were associated with. Psychedelic and all that stuff so. I think it was substantial. I asked him was he going to be a headset. I mean the main thing was that every or everybody record was important but I don't know of. A number one. That was not. Enjoyed that they didn't talk. Along those lines. It was a very dance. It was a very densely textured piece of work it was a very good idea. Everything they did. I mean that was the thing ever

and ever and ever see in images of takeoffs and iPods and planes and jets machines. He'll be very online now I'm sure I'm saying for a few years but he has to make when I do not have time for. And of course Severus I mean there was an excess a little down of his helmet was terribly me as if a clock could could feel the pain I see at the back. This is up to Gina and I like Jean very much. Didn't like him leaving Crosby and Midway and quite obviously to go in front of each other. I couldn't get along and that was good for them too there was a creative tension as you saw everything they did was new.

I know their albums and I don't know the later stuff that well but the other two are interesting series was really really. Well. Like a lot of things like the concert on the roof or the Beatles I used to get the backwash of things and these things were happening and you know I knew that something was going on or was going wrong when you got the vocals. It would be important to the management of the record company to be on the governor and I don't know that they would have read together and they were into having tortious and doing well and. So. I can't really answer or definite how their records are and to a certain extent big because radio is quite a conventional media and I never said it was the mainstream media. He would never do that would never quite be the same again

that he kind of flaky was aware it was news and that's probably the way it was seen. As a lot of I was just saying yes well I was always doing. It was a man of passion and indignation I was always I mean I was sucking on the sun and I couldn't bear criticism no question and I was here so I would go to great lengths to try far too hard to convince people who were not about to be convinced and trying to take on American radio that I can media that and with some kind of anger suffer stree about look at it this way. That's fair. Yeah they are and the same time you know I didn't mind if it was about drugs or saying I mean I. It would have been a good thing to me if it had been if you didn't have a double meaning. So I was exasperated frequently exasperated having to explain the

birds to these monsters. With me while the birds were so close to their weapons when I had Miles High was released it would be going it would have gone out in a normal course of events something there and. They must have been very plain I can't exactly. But they would be very pleased with that work because it was an intact piece of popular holiday being obnoxious about it and I don't know whether they were there were another cat because they were for daring and they didn't meet any I may never know. For most people this is the nature of the counterculture I mean they were not so they were paranoid about being busted but they were not.

They were not fighting child establishment anymore so to have a child to go and say we can't escape them. The word high was in there was in the title. And I as I said I thought it was about a bit of a flaw for me that it wasn't. But they are enabled me when I was told it wasn't an ounce of the truth. No it isn't. You know that 60s was one of your trash uses. Yes well the feeling about the sitar which over my way said I'm tired of it was that this whole fitted the mood of the times it was from another place in a central place a modest place a place of different traditions greater meaning

and it was not pleasing to robbery. His music was thought to have any kind of drug connotations going 70 he was never involved in that. And the music was what it was from long ago and great defined by masters. But that didn't stop people saying well this fits perfectly with the where we are but I must have it in Monterey because this is where. Rob it was I Monterey was terribly important. Have a good appeal for perfect conditions and no smoking of anything and I had to send says so while he was able to ply a pure and legitimately claim to be free of all that kind of connotation. The counterculture was able to claim it as a bit of a part of what was generally going around kind of thing. So I had guys that they were into that

was what they call up to for themselves I was. I know you are. Yes yes I did. Well this is a this was Monterey was a very responsive festival there was extremely good behavior throughout. As the police and Highway Patrol and the fire brigade fight and this is the thing about it it was. It was this phrase was not known in the summer of love was not a phrase but it was the perfect weekend and every set got the appropriate response but it was Hendrix going crazy. Join us to live or Orson unnoticed unless we all have the right responses. And because they touched bits different bits of the order and Ravi got a very respectful and that he's going to referee your basement.

And if it's in the film business went on to have it. He was the first artist to be booked for the festival. That would be getting some yellow press Charleston's there was no rush. So weather would be there. I should think that John Roberts cause it would be a number of people have been smoking before they went down that I don't there would be a doping or a sunset and have cigarettes and cigarettes without question except to put drug in America right now a lot of intolerant people and I don't approve. So I don't think a dope you know smoking in the auditorium to start with. What was the drug use. Well it's just kind of. Well I enjoy music. Well it ended me as it was from another time and place. I think that's probably what dope was

supposed to do take it to a place and it was certainly co-opted as extreme. I mean instead used by people detractors of the time. When there was one or two TV commercials where they try and show people writers I had. To get this one running and as we talk and this is a sitar in there so it's co-opted by all kinds of you know kind of BS. So it's not for me to say but it was so. If you did bassist John Wright that I think it's a pity that has to die now. I don't enjoy the question so it's definitely told me that question. If you do that it

stands right. Sounds like a relatively simplistic song. Yet center was awesome and knew what they had these some of the apparently simple sounds beautiful constructions. How the 63 64 pair were of course very subtle and were educated upon by critics. And after that and since. But they were actually very very clever at form she was deliberately party saying this is the message from you and it's not I love you it's she and so these things were full of intelligence no matter how simple. A painting by numbers would look like a painting by numbers but an apparently simple painting done by a

genius was that someone. So people are not foolish and people collectively have a sense of that in the company of something that read in US or something. In other words they're not watching you know this is the problem with comparisons I never imagined somebody or your lover that it was a browser. Let's face it the way we're not mentioning him so I'm obviously I saw the designation. Say he is a genius but that's what annoys me. Well I don't. Live the Beatles as teen idol defeat depends

which team I was with comparing them with I was a Grammy for included Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly and some people to reckon with the rest of them. But a fascinating musician. But the British pop star until the Beatles had been quiet. I mean dead tended to be treated very disparaging the name Cliff Richard who survived to this day. Apart figure something was not really that interesting. I think. I'm trying to say to. Hasbro taller and deeper section of the community. There are a lot of views on him and he was often in the papers as clef and he's done this and he's you know he was a big teen idol before the Beatles. Sixty three four.

Sixty two and three he was selling out huge sound as anything but they had the texture of the had the cheek an impedance reason and the others that I had which I think was that's what set them and they came from Liverpool which was always different. This is a city with a difference. I don't know what that is either but is in the water in India. And they couldn't have come from anywhere else and had to come and I was I would touch them very interested for what it's worth and I wouldn't be in that it's. In tatters.