Rock and Roll; Interview with Dave Bartholomew [Part 2 of 2]

There was no way I could overcome that I was actually a segregation move it was actually the whites covering the black music. Quite natural me sitting back it wasn't too bad because I would was the one actually wrote the material things that on time I was number one he started on Fats Domino a guy name was Randy woods in Nashville Tennessee. He starred in The Big O segregated town at that time a segregated station. What he actually did was kill the black artists. The face when he tried it on Fats Domino but Fats was so powerful it wouldn't happen but when many Smiley's came out with his record became I would get a stone a beautiful white girl she had a TV show and all that so that quite natural smile or I could stop selling the next thing was one night my lady I was pregnant but oh no let's say this way one might have been a year and a half or two years before I was there so we can call it a cover because actually at the time his record I stopped selling. But as soon as I was made it goes again you understand was millions and millions of sort of but like I mentioned before

by me being a writer it wasn't too hard but it was killing all my artist because I would have made more. You're smiling when we recorded the thing and I bet it would have been more reckon I'll Because I want to meet another artist that I could always go to. What sort of band does a musical different what they're actually doing is they got a rhythm and blues sound and you've got country and western guy who's saying in a half I'm you know. As a singing out of tune to say nothing I don't knock the music because I mean after all it's a we have a music well enough and do what I want every years too because we're actually getting. I think everyone is after commercial sign you're going to get something is going to sell to the public and quite not you might have a great musician and you have to cut down on what he writes and if you play as a whole in his plan a million notes will tell them of that because just play something that the people can

sing without the singing the same thing make it more soulful and I think there's has more they have the rock and rhythm feel feel it so you can sell the material. Right no being No. One in 1953 I remember going to yes I was there. OK. And 1953 I remember the day I went to Houston Texas at the Club Miami to hear Little Richard I was a talent. It was some talent that was going on at the place and I was told of being just in Texas on that day so I want to run our new record from there on those and I hang around the dewdrop and things like that and I sat up and I heard Little Richard and he was bringing the house down I said why and that cell phone that was sell to myself that shows you who

knows what's going on when you come in you always almost put me out of business. So what actually happened. Bumps Blackwell who is also the NRA man for them at the time was a friend of mine at a Los Angeles Calif. So what happened been scam him so he spoke to our Paula Leon and the rest of the band I said we're fine you guys regard because I couldn't do anything because I was an exclusive contract into a record company. These guys when I went up climbed through the fruit the whole route and almost killed me Dave you know I mean your songs and records but nevertheless who knows what is gonna sell and show you the wrong I was I told the boss as a little you know. I tied him down he said you can't get him out so we were doing very well so that's why you had me raise some promises I made a big big mistake. But I'll probable actually the leader only Alan read Thaila they were actually the latest dust a man a few Oh no no no no Richard records

and they were very very successful and I was glad for something that I say of fans has a lot of country and western in his vice. I think that was one reason he's between rhythm and blues and country and western because the way he acts and something you know like walking right outside the thing understand that it comes from Country AND Western. And he has that fear and I think you can make a great country western singer if you wanted to. But he's so successful in what he's doing and I want to make he need to do that. Fat's got a distinctive sound and the reason I think about it is I don't think it was done on purpose. I just think that's him being natural. He wasn't trying to be like anyone else he just was saying in that was it. I think his greatest influence

was Ray Charles Brown and John Brown is a very fine saying a hell of a musician and I think it was in front of some by Charles but with the country and western and the Muse music coming from rhythm and blues in him. I think that was one reason why I got that original sound and I think that when he opens his mouth everybody and well know as Fats Domino. Turning my impression it's all. My impression about what actually made you want to sound great. Well because that people hear the music they can dance with it. One example I met. Many men many years ago I was working the Dixieland band in New York City on a jazz festival and we went to one of the projects at home playing traditional

Dixieland music and I said to myself we are going to get killed. I was playing with a band by the name of Papa French and I thought time we went to the project and I said Oh no I were not going to play in the revenue that were going to get killed here. We started playing Dixieland music like Bourbon Street Parade and they came out and started dancing not really let me do it on your wall in Louisiana but they felt the beat. And anywhere you play that type of beat on that bass drum and rhythm section you make them dance and I think that is one reason why I knew all news about touch everyone because you can hear what and when you get on a bridge somewhere you hear the bass drum coming you were first thing you want to want to get out and dance with and that's why I have a feeling the walls are so great and you want to Lousiana then go for a fill itself. They want to have some fun when the guy had Barrett and they want to come back and do it at second line and that's when when we do not think that the music is so great because they dance by the bass drum by the beat.

I think that the rhythm thing here so strong is because that is a tradition I think is handed down from one generation to other because they take their babies to the parade. And quite naturally grow up with that. So when they get mid teens they write with that and here comes another bit of a negative so from one generation to the other. I would guess a prairie a town. And we have more holidays here than anywhere and well. I'm glad to have you back. Again Mike to Fats Domino original style and I think he has a sound that no one actually can get because he was born with it. Friends like when he makes the moon again. That is actually like of the six of the card. And he's saying you know like Fern might most people might say well look I'll walk

into a new wall and he will not do it I just say I walk in to you walk into you type of things yeah the same with that wind with that. And that's what get to people and what they start doing is digging down in a package to pay for that record. Thank you. John. Everything I hear anything. I think rock n roll actually came from us the black people we have the rhythm and blues for many many years and here come in a couple of white people and they call it rock n roll. And it was rhythm and blues all the time. That's way come from us.