Say Brother; Hakim Jamal interview
- Transcript
The Malcolm X Foundation is many things but primarily it's an organization that was started while Malcolm was alive. It agrees basically with the premise that education for black people is the paramount problem. Education as well as defense as if Malcolm X wants to save rather than. Defend the black community and I think that the only group that has done that that's has been the Malcolm X Foundation in conjunction with the Black Panthers for self-defense was led by Huey P. Newton who was at present in San Quentin up and Oakland California along with Eldridge Cleaver who diminished defense for the Black Panthers the Medway foundation is as a notice that everybody ethnically is moving except black people. We're moving backward and white people are moving forward. By that I mean white people are digging holes in the moon and black people in Washington DC at rest in Resurrection City. So we all feel it in 1968. This is any sign of progress in fact it's retrogression. I believe the word is so we in the Malcolm X Foundation have began what we call the Malcolm
X Montessori schools for black children. We start teaching children at two years old. They teach in mathematics. Yeah that's the scientist and if you remember these are the things we're taught back in in Ethiopia or in Africa back in the early days even predating Christianity is the reason why black people at 13 years old were building pyramids. But now in 2000 years later people in California making what they call Watts walloping or baseball bat while white people making jet flames. So this is the difference between the ethnic. So we have an ethnic responsibility to investigate and in our investigation in the Malcolm X Foundation we have found that the people in Italy who were in a ghetto situation an awful lot similar to ours. Maria Montessori who devised the method of teaching went into the ghetto and elevated the children of the ghetto. To the degree that they became your leaders. Now if you can remember this they brought a method to the United States and it failed primarily because white people took it and made it a status symbol and it cost basically
$200 a month to send the child it in the mouth from a foundation. We are raising five hundred thousand dollars to take in a broad segment of black children from the ghetto and the education will be free along with the lunches along with just sleeping programs. So we found out this program works. It is the only one it works in everything that black people have had to date has failed. Christianity has failed. Religion has failed. If you want education has failed schooling has failed. So we find it in the in 1968 the training that the black people are getting in Roxbury is ready for 1968 instead of 1988. Now the program when teaching at two years old take the children from 1968 up into nineteen 88 when white people admitted they'll be on the move. But we we have civil rights. If you follow the program as laid by all of the organizations that exist because they are under the European system the Western system which is as you know with white supremacy as evidenced by the Kerner report and the president himself wouldn't that the
problem in America is white racism. So we try to deal with that. There's no school that I know is dealing with that geography history mathematics these foolishness does not deal with white racism and that is our problem. So we know Malcolm Malcolm X Foundation do deal with the problem. So the Malcolm X Foundation realizes that this is the time for political sophistication as well as ethnic sophistication as well as ethnic responsibility and we have tightened up. And all groups will become black nationalists under the under the leadership and the total age and the programs devised by Brother Malcolm X the Black Panther Party is a national movement now. Weiss even Black Panthers everywhere I arrived in Boston Massachusetts and I was met by a panther when I was in when I was in Minnesota. I was met by some Panthers the Met of the Black Panther Party functions primarily under two I thought. One is self defense and one in the other. Under the complete total age of Malcolm X so they can definitely definitely a national movement. If not now international in scope. Because everything in the world is screaming self-defense.
China having the bomb to defend itself against the Western powers is a measure that self-defense and I think that you'll find that Japan which which tried to form their form of justice having a history of the Opium Wars when the United States and England all the white powers attacked China two times under the opium was they went to sell opium to China. And now that China is trying to get retribution only for the past week they teach black people that China is the aggressor all the black people don't realize that that the United States government right now is only bombing five minutes from Japan. What would you think would happen if the United China bombed five years from the United States. So we the United States must be looked upon as the aggressor and the only thing that stops aggressors are movements like the Malcolm X Foundation and other black panthers for self-defense because black people are the only people on the face of the universe who the law forbids the X2 to exercise self defense. This is the norm even ant bites in self-defense. But black people are not taught to kill. We don't even know
the word kill except that we shall not. We have we are not taught the word kill unless white people pick the person who we must kill. They said I kill Germans. Now you came kill a German wife and said no you can't kill anymore than he killed Japanese. They allowed you to kill them. Now they don't you can't kill no more. Now the thing to kill a Vietnamese. You fight when a white man says Bite who he says fight. And when he says fight although the Constitution says that we are supposed to fight any enemy foreign and domestic. That means crackers in Mississippi Georgia Massachusetts California or anywhere you find in just if you go to fight and I'm not talking about the no bible I'm talking about with guns it takes guns brother. It doesn't take any love it takes a gun. When you pick up the gun they lay it down. That's why in the West it was a fast draw. They wanted to put a gun down you'd beat me to the draw or they draw me to going to happen. You know.
- Series
- Say Brother
- Raw Footage
- Hakim Jamal interview
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- WGBH (Boston, Massachusetts)
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- Description
- Episode Description
- Interview with Hakim Jamal, Founder of the Malcolm X Foundation done c. 1968. Jamal discusses the goals of the Foundation and in particular outlines the Foundation's educational efforts by detailing how the schools run by the Foundation are based in part on the educational philosophy of Maria Montessori. Interview is not attributed to a particular program, but information on film leader of source indicates that it may be from first episode of Say Brother which debuted 7/11/1968.
- Date
- 1968-00-00
- Topics
- Race and Ethnicity
- Public Affairs
- Subjects
- Race; Education; race relations; Violence and society
- Rights
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- Media type
- Moving Image
- Duration
- 00:07:29
- Credits
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Interviewee2: Paul Porter
Publisher: WGBH Educational Foundation
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WGBH
Identifier: 60104b8a2bf906be57f3f9affc6441b80d73e512 (ArtesiaDAM UOI_ID)
Format: video/quicktime
Color: Color
Duration: 00:07:29;26
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- Citations
- Chicago: “Say Brother; Hakim Jamal interview,” 1968-00-00, WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed November 5, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-9zc7rt7s.
- MLA: “Say Brother; Hakim Jamal interview.” 1968-00-00. WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. November 5, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-9zc7rt7s>.
- APA: Say Brother; Hakim Jamal interview. Boston, MA: WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-9zc7rt7s