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Complicit this I'm unhappy that there's only what you call it because the nation this progressive was started by abolitionists how come there's only white people here you know. And she said well you know whatever she said and you know she invited me to come in and try to help so I said get involved I'm on the editorial board there. And so one of the problems that I have is I think that it's not the nation as you know it's a vailable to a certain intellectual class of people. But but intellectual just means education doesn't mean intelligence necessarily And so what I want to do is to do start doing some more pedestrian things which would be helpful. So I Can we did the 10 things I might my comma's called 10 things we did 10 10 ways to survive on the streets of New York crimes. Now this is very good because if you're homeless in streets of New York it was helpful. But also if you if you weren't you might say Is this what people have to do in the streets of New York. You know so it was different ways to do it. Next we're going to it's like you know 10 10. Weighs 10 things that will

kill you that you don't know about. You know I mean you know it's like you know one of the things like almost every nation in the world has done studies on cell phones and brain cancer and America is the only one who finds that it doesn't give us a you know I mean as they get kind of you know you know it's like a lot of other things you know saw you know this is OK for you. Alcohol is good for you. You know you know it's like you know and so you know to do things like that. And you know and we try to get it you know syndicated do in another newspapers and that kind of stuff. And that way it feels like we're inviting in a different group of people you know it's me and you know my my young assistant who actually does all the work I mean that's really true from Trinidad to does a lot of work. And at the same time you know what you're trying to open doors for people of color like that. Yes. As I said you know you know the but you know this book is the it is is me talking about it you know it's it's you know when you talk about a

black man you know with his Scandinavian wife who's had used children who also of color from other.