Dreadful Memories: The Life of Sarah Ogan Gunning; An Interview with a Former Coal Miner on the Mining Industry

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Maybe we should start talking about what it was like growing up around when you were born in your early years living in Bel Canto for Claiborne later. Prove there was your daddy. Yeah he was raised for me to. Jump over. He did his road work. And when they got word that she could make a lot of money work and just saved track of work they could go on work he could
accumulate enough money told he could buy a show for them and work out like that and play and you know lunch away from her. I never could get her to murder her about. Say if. You go to pore through other people and river are relative. Most of them lived at all or so when you first started work at the Rainbow holler and call brushing or Persian or
it were true and they're lashed. He went back before he got jailed or killed the same for a started but after he had worked there for all of that after my oldest brother got killed one male correct place you drove her car for her. Proven way to live to relax to grow over the war 13 years straight you are probably right about that she wrote for me and go our way up again to
go out. Thirteen year old woman told you earlier the world had six much public school and six months where if you if you pay that three months pay she couldn't pay to show their children that just want to report it. So she got the order. Talk a little about the history of the USA. They're trying to destroy our public system Schmo a majority and and Reagan administration everything they can to destroy the public and when people first began to look for other
children in this country they had a hard struggle of ever getting public schools and when they first began a shoe they clashed. They scream if we're educate the population who will call up the true way to turn our back for work and your children and their education to work our children and teach them and then play Bush to start have and all the children that can bridge. Who wants that own property if you are from a property all of your children and permitted to go to school. So you say the Clash have always been against British force and they are
yeah but who are you going to do with that company you run from who will want to build a school and let it wash partially or Camus goobers on company property. Well the people out on the land there was a lot of people that run the American Association land and they would bail her she actually and then of course the church isn't sure but the American Association had all these houses on the way to keep paying their taxes on that cost him some money for taxes if they had to draw on it so they got rid of practically all the bail bond or Margaret
Mosad for we were practically right. They only have about eight or 10 you know the old mining Shack still standing and the church and all the others have been told in a way you wouldn't hardly know that you wouldn't hardly recognize there was ever a big mining camps that were the house three hundred miners now because it's all been told the way the railroad tracks and everything you're saying the rosary used to be a big A listers a hand a kora Fork River they call it a glow your kind kind hearted to tell her other brother Craig was sad and a girl that has trees in there and it's becoming more like a wilderness now than a coal plant. What happened to you if you lost your job in the mines and lived in one of those towns. Well. You'd have to go to the place
then but joining places like they usually had an agreement to say if you are working today if you become a magic hater and they charge you they had an agreement with a prudent covenant that they they wouldn't employ you after you were discharged ship on the story and after leave and go someplace after work hours away it's a black place they called it again yesterday and sure Bushler just didn't neighboring and should have these agreements just say butter bread dough. When I'd have a big striker shops in the Army and was blacklisted and not taking 30 if you're working most in your place and can track you if you are blacklisted Well you could hardly get a job any place in the State Department.
Trauma blacklisting What do you have to do to get blackness. What kind of going to you if you really are activists and union your say or they consider jury and thing rock or radical or Sharpton was on your ticket to blacklist. As long as she didn't say yes in the future just didn't say in its course and when the strike is over or you get a job bad ones are considered bad dictator blacklist. Did that happen to you. Yes in 1930 30 war machine last time that I worked on a mountain can attack you. And after the wound was from a black clay asteroid. Yes they have a lot of form of birth free and there was maybe we got wrong that working together you know in the mind
you know after this for all of us. Well what we did in 1932 is shave. I'll have to good position in detail about how the national miners union came in the bay and but why don't we back out then why don't you tell me a little bit about when you went how old you were when you went into the mines and what it was like. Well the conditions are where you non-call in those days. Well we're not. First start work and I was a small boy I was only 13 years old and praying for Bush who tried to talk me out of go in and told him I was go quit school and go and was in the 8 grade and he tried very best to
talk me out of quitting Google and urged me to go into college at places like Barry or or or or she could go on and get an education. Get out of that room with age old abortion laws already work. They might have a lot of money and not much but few Sadil they thought they had Johnson and they'd have a lot of better clothes and boy just dependent on his father. So this would urge give them an urge to go to work. True so it was hard to keep them out of the mind since that was still Haitian alas far from it either. Lol for your work over or about the Late
Show when I went to work 13. They had 8 hour day a day and they work 10 hours a day and when they cost I wish I wish I didn't have any union that time. They don't have they have a child labor law for two years or so. Trapper boy and then they came in or going to the mining in that section and I sure got a contract with the coal company. I started back to work and the mom foreman came along. Or you go in boy showed him going to work. You should not share your work in the chair. Well I've been working
here for two years he said I can have it you're too old to work here and no way they would get a room and they asked when they would get around the child labor law they would not put bars on payroll or labor they would turn your time in with your father and he wished for fish pockets or appeared to got hurt or killed in the drive they would say well it's no more. All that some mail more preacher must have got organized and of course for him had 16 years old before they were permitted to perch on the floor statement. They were 16 years old but it was a little lower than
before you permit or deny that more crucial first the first. Organization that made any attempt or organized labor or was a member of the not sure for labor but plain never did. And they never were able to make very big headway in the mining. State of Tennessee to lease out companies of labor at that time. Played a small role and some other labor trouble but they never made very much headway and then. They are considered a secret organization because they
tried to protect the jobs of the miners when they would go on the Oregon Trail in the thing they were considered a secret door because they wouldn't tell who their members were saying work at trying to protect the miners until I get organized or of course we're dead a lot of that Haven you know markers to go and get stronger and you couldn't borrow no one ever warned. So what do you not remember workers the first union that ever made very much headway and called the cops say Action. Here they had the Western Federation of miners out Norway in a copper mine coal mine in
Colorado a place just like the horn on the. What do you know among workers chief. Organization of the miners will always go field share what is mine and what how how did you not. And I know it's real. Well yeah. Yes so he. Was mainly by Schaffel and later on they did get cutting machines a lot of the hall even got electricity and electric motors. Firstly I only got to talk to a call training motors and they would gather the track I call it
tram orders would befall it. Sure fished it out later on water called gather and of course I did away with cutting machine. After they got a cutter about a poor teacher to barter move for different problems I had more cut in Shaner of coal but most cut on the bottom and take her powder and shoot shoot it. But it was very slow compared with the message. You know they have these different kinds of machines that take out on a conveyor you never have to take them over a pen to work and play sure
struck a deal that would bring it out of the conveyor for which ever you should bang what kind of things were you and W organizing around what were they trying to improve or even hours if they tried doing good faith to try and force are all crazy.
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- In this recording, a former coal miner is interviewed about his life in and out of the coal mines of Appalachia. The interviewee started working in the mines when he was only thirteen. Topics included in the interview are public education, the conditions of working in the coal mines, and coal miners' struggles to organize to fight for better working conditions and wages.
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- 1988-06-02
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- Economics
- Social Issues
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- 00:18:21
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Duration: 00:18:00
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- Chicago: “Dreadful Memories: The Life of Sarah Ogan Gunning; An Interview with a Former Coal Miner on the Mining Industry,” 1988-06-02, Appalshop, Inc., American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed June 26, 2025, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-138-805x6nj9.
- MLA: “Dreadful Memories: The Life of Sarah Ogan Gunning; An Interview with a Former Coal Miner on the Mining Industry.” 1988-06-02. Appalshop, Inc., American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. June 26, 2025. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-138-805x6nj9>.
- APA: Dreadful Memories: The Life of Sarah Ogan Gunning; An Interview with a Former Coal Miner on the Mining Industry. Boston, MA: Appalshop, Inc., American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-138-805x6nj9