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A tour skews known worldwide as a leading expert in the field of alcohol and drug rehabilitation. This week celebrates his 70th birthday and he's our one IQ guest tonight. Speaking of guests Jamie Lee Curtis was recently spotted at a local event that raised money for the children's hospital. I will take you to one of Pittsburgh's the big social events. Plus everything you need to know to help your kids enjoy a safe and happy Halloween. It all happens tonight so stay with us and look at things differently. On cue starts right now. Hello I'm Chris Moore and I'm Karalee Eskay welcomed on cue.

Tonight we'll find out what Jamie Lee Curtis was doing at a local fundraiser and onto contributor Gina Tanzer Wright is back with tips on how to score the most and they while enjoying a safe and happy Halloween tomorrow night. You want to be a ditz and the dad went first on cue co-host Jason Smith is here with tonight's one on cue guest Stacey. All right thank you Chris and Carol there is a building in Aliquippa with quite a reputation. And no wonder it has helped. Fifty thousand people get their lives back on track. The Gateway rehabilitation institute is considered one of the best treatment centers for alcoholism and drug abuse. According to research by authors Linda sunshine and John Wright. And you can. You could credit one man for much of Gateway success. Dr. Ed tours not only runs the center he is also a physician a rabbi and author composer and of course a pioneer in the field of drug and alcohol rehabilitation. Monday's one NQ guest Dr. Abraham. Thank you so much for joining us first of all who are those two other gentlemen with you right there I didn't get a chance to see if I was looking closely the face or one of them was Dr. Ramsey who is the

president of Gateway and the other is a former chairman who is now gone was the chairman of the board today and attorney Tom Rider. OK how did you get interested in drug and alcohol rehabilitation. Because you have quite a reputation. Long story. Let me try and convince that we have a half an hour. I was on a resident at Western Psychiatric university and I was on emergency duty so that if somebody needed to see a psychiatrist I cannot wait for an appointment they would see the doctor on emergency duty. Well this one day this woman walked in and said that she had an emergency problem and I saw her and she began telling me about her history that she was one of three daughters of an escape alien priest. Later in her adolescent she began drinking by the time she was 20 she was a full fledged alcoholic. She married had a child and well the child was about three the husband said

Now look you've got to make up your mind. It's either the marriage or the alcohol. And she said you know I was I knew I couldn't put the bottle down and it was really not fair to him or the child so I gave his divorce. Well she then was single and. We get an escort service very attractive woman and young twenty six. After several years the alchol began taking its toll and her behavior was such that nobody wanted to be seen with her. She then hit the skid row and every once in a while somebody would find her passed out from alcohol to drag her into the hospital at the hospital or C to be dragged off for a couple days somebody would take her to a meeting she'd go out and get drunk again. This went on until she was 56 This must have been for about 25 years. At age 56 she approached a attorney friend of hers and said take me before the judge to get me put away the State House bill for a year. Under the code and the bridge commitment and just dry out. Well it was appraisal

and yeah but for a year drying out is a long time now and he thought that she was off the wall but finally he agreed and he took her from the court and she was committed to maybe a state hospital for a year. The day she came out from the state hospital she probably went to an AA meeting got herself a job as a housekeeper and by the time that I saw her she was 61 years old five years sober. She had lost all family contacts because family was totally embarrassed of her. But as a young fledgling psychiatrist I fit what motivated this woman to make that drastic step of putting yourself in a state hospital for a year is a very radical thing. What did she expect to get from it. And so out of curiosity I said to her Isabelle I think you better come back next week for another session. When she came back next week and the next week and next week and I saw her once a week for 13 years until one night at age 74 she died peacefully in her sleep. In the meantime having gone through medical school where they did not give me a single lecture on

alcoholism and a psychiatric residency I didn't get a single lecture on alcoholism. I assume there's no treatment for alcoholism doctors don't know what to do about it and the psychiatrist on all do about it. And yet this woman is staying sober. Oh by the way when I became kind of a director seeing Francis I went down to the medical records room to see how many times she had been admitted to St. Francis Hospital. She had 69 admissions at St. Francis Hospital for drying out. And you also visited many other hospitals. At any rate I said to her How is it that you're staying sober. So she told me that she's going to meetings of Alcoholics Anonymous in 1961. Very few people know anything about Alcoholics Anonymous This is before famous people have come forward. So I said Well who does the treatment at these meetings. Well she says that really we talk and we should be have a speaker. I said it is about to come out. I've asked psychologist there. She says Well there's one psychologist who comes around but he's still drunk most of the time so

I said look I gotta find this I think. Can I go to this meeting. He said Of course. In 1961 I went to the first AA meeting. And to me it was a revelation. First of all I love the idea that whoever came into that room no one cared what their level of education was. Fifth grade dropout or two Ph.D. or whether you had to collect welfare to get your bus fare or whether you came with a luxury automobile maybe a multimillionaire once you walked into that room. Everyone was treated equally. I've never seen equality like that anywhere. And then I have begun watching how they're staying sober. Following this what they call the 12 step program. And because you know why should this be the unique area exclusive for the alcoholic or for the drug addict. You know all of these things that they're suggesting doing an inventory about

yourself a moral inventory looking for your defects trying to improve on your character defects making a list of people you've offended and apologizing to them. All of the kinds of things that said well wait a second that's the way every person should be living a good life. And so although I never had a drinking problem I began going to Alcoholics Anonymous meetings simply because I love their program. And you learned a lot from there. And part of the reason for your success is the straightforward approach to addiction. And as a matter fact we have a sample of what one of your seminar videos and this one is called liking yourself. It's probably good to think a little bit about what should be accomplished in a rehab program. I think the first thing to realize is something that came to my attention one day when I walked in the other woman came over to me and said I'm so happy I'm finishing a program here and I'm leaving for home tomorrow and everything out there looks so

wonderful to me. I said all along you've just wasted four weeks time. I said you really think that while you were sitting here for four weeks the world out there turned out to be a better place. I said if you're going home with those kinds of ideas you're going to be drunk by tonight. I said look there the world did not change. Whatever problems were out there before you came in are still out there. Family is family and husbands are husbands and wives or wives and employers and employees. Nothing changed so the change has to occur and not in the outside world. And that works well it works because I have this and an ordinary extraordinary faith that people are good at the core. It's just that they are not aware of the strengths they have and so many people run away from coping with life because they don't feel themselves capable of doing so. I've had people who are tremendously attractive and thought that they were homely people who are bright and they thought that they were doll people who are very personable and thought that they were bores most of the

time. Is it in escape the addictions to either drug or alcohol or whatever it will be. I think that today of course you have young people who probably go looking for come some kind of thrills. They're not getting their fair share of the thrills of the world. It very often begins as an escape. But the problem is that the escapes very soon start stops working and then you get into the addiction where the thing feeds upon itself. And at that point the person has lost control and is a victim of his or her own escape. Now how how tough is it at Gateway. I mean how tough are you with with the patients who come in there. I mean is that I don't think that we're tough with them I think that what the one thing that we confront them with is that look don't try to talk your way out of this contract to rationalize your way out of this right. You've got a problem which is human nature to do it and of course yes. OK but the way the drug addict in the alcoholic do it is they find of 50 million excuses about why they should be drinking why it's everybody else's a 5 else's fault you know it's the

husband's fault or my fault employers fault the state police than anyone except itself. They would also like to do anything everything. World except give up the substance except give up the drink. Right. They want to go back to being same social drinkers which they can't do. So what we do is we confront them with the reality we've had the experience of thousands of people right. You're not going to be any different. And you try to go back and take one drink and drink a last glass of wine before dinner. You're going to very soon find that you're right back where you started from. Right now you have a birthday party coming up. If I'm not mistaken and Betty Ford is she going to be in town. Also Well I met with Betty but I had lunch with Betty and President Ford Wednesday and that night this wasn't from Wednesday by the way this is an earlier picture with Betty Ford. Right. Yeah. And. Yeah Betty is a wonderful young woman but she's a young woman of 83 right. And I said to her you know you can send a message. You

stay here. Yeah. So she is honorary chairman of the event. But I really felt it would be too much of an imposition for her to make the trip overall. We only have about 30 seconds here. Well I was dumbfounded to hear you say that when you went to school there was no teaching and how to treat alcoholism or drug abuse. Has that changed some places in some places there are still doctors and psychiatrists and all other kinds of physicians who do not get any training you know that is and they don't know how to diagnose and they don't know what to do about it and they don't believe the treatment works and that is a tragic mistake that may be where the first step has to be taken. I think it's a very important first step. Besides people learning how to cope and not try to escape from the right things. Doctor thank you so much for being with us and my pleasure. Thank you and Happy birthday to you. And coming up on November the 2nd. Thank you. Still to come an invitation to want to Pittsburgh's biggest social events one that even attracted Hollywood. And just in time for Halloween the

hottest costumes and scariest places in Pittsburgh. First though here's a quick look at what is coming up tomorrow on cue. When it comes to knowing inside Washington one name certainly comes to mind. U.S. Senator Arlen Specter is our special guest tomorrow. He'll talk about everything from the Single Bullet Theory to questioning the need to impeaching Clinton. Senator Arlen Specter live on Q What could be more perfect on Halloween than a hunted house with no ghost in Pittsburgh. Yes quite a few you see them and Tuesday's live musical performer has quite a resume sound advice and songs that hit number one for Garth Brooks and Crystal Gayle and they say Turner Heights native will sing for us and reminisce about her television days in Pittsburgh live on cue tomorrow at 7:30. Do you have a right to watch what's going on in local court rooms. Now we're not just talking about what local TV stations show us people come and go to the courtroom hallways. We're talking cameras in the court room. On cue correspondent Michael Bartley is working on the story for Thursday night. Michael this

topic always sparks plenty of reaction. Indeed it does Chris it's controversial controversial and I got plenty of it while working on the story. The majority of states allow cameras into courtrooms to witness criminal proceedings. Pennsylvania is not one of them. Some say cameras in courtrooms keep you informed and serve the public interest. Others say it's a disruption and a distraction and causes bias in the judicial process. In Pittsburgh and throughout Pennsylvania the media is forced to jostle for position to take pictures of a suspect or the court proceedings through a small court room window. But in other states in neighboring Ohio for example the law allows for cameras in the courtroom testimony. Sentencing all of it is recorded and photographed for public consumption. Look at me and take responsibility for what you've done. Those in favor of cameras in the courtroom argue it's the public's right to know.

Those against accuse the media of sensationalizing what happens in the courtroom. The unexpected right. Thursday night you'll hear some differing opinions on which direction Pennsylvania should be going in the cameras in the court room issue. You'll hear from Dr. Cyril Wecht from the Los Angeles lawyer who defended the Menendez brothers from one of the forensic scientists at the O.J. Simpson trial and you'll hear from a Pennsylvania superior court judge. And to me the worst example of what can happen in trial is what happened in our jails Simpson's trial. You know that that that this gave me the shivers. You'll hear from plenty of other people as well they all attended a recent legal symposium at Duquesne University's Cyril Wecht Institute. Again that story is on Thursday night by the way on Wednesday night we go downtown to take a look at the new Lord

Taylor store. Which opens on Wednesday we'll show you what they have to offer Chris will find out if Lord Taylor has any concerns about opening business downtown. Find out if they think they're going to do well there. That story on cameras in the courtroom looks like it could be pretty powerful I think it's going to be very fascinating a lot of differing there's not a lot of agreement on it to minutes back and forth even among lawyers like this it would only happen here in Pennsylvania. Well it's always talked about as you'll find out Thursday night it comes up constantly The media is always appealing and so are individuals. But it's up to the state Supreme Court right now. They're holding fast to their opinion. Thank you Michael we appreciate it we look forward to seeing your story on this on Thursday but right now it's time to find out what Jamie Lee Curtis was doing in Pittsburgh recently Carol. Well that's right it was another celebrity sighting here in the burgh and this time the celebrity was Jamie Lee Curtis and she's the star of True Lies and A Fish Called Wanda and those scary Halloween movies that you're probably renting right now given that tomorrow is Halloween. Well Jamie Lee wasn't here to publicize a new movie she was here to help raise money for a very worthy

cause. Tribune reviews fanfare columnist Gene Horne brought back the story for on cue. Take a look credible we've made this really fantastic event having a lot of fun with it. You're really enjoying your life and I think it is beautiful. Have a ball this is great I will say another word. That's good. It's perfect you review here at the Country Club and swiftly with the rise of the glitz gala with our star attraction Curtis I'm thrilled to be a part of such a beautiful evening couldn't be a more beautiful place in the hospital.

All the other boys will make it possible to help her. I'm really here to help raise money for this heart center. I am here for that purpose that is my primary purpose and I'm very proud to be able to be here again. You would think her brand new baby boomers. OK. Her her her her soul her that. Thousands of people come out tonight they're serious about what we're doing here. It's

you know Pittsburgh has deep pockets and big hearts. And I'm you know I was shocked last year with the energy of the giving. I was really not prepared for it and I was exhilarated. This event has been greater than we ever anticipated. It's been a unbelievable response from the community to the children and do it to children in Pittsburgh specifically Jamie Lee has been fabulous. And we think we're going to go far beyond our goal of a million dollars as long as they have an event for Children's Hospital in Pittsburgh. If I have an invitation to come here I will be here. All this one an affair of the heart because that's where all the wounds went straight to the heart center. And you know the longer we're there mending broken heart. Broken hearts for our kids say it was that 10. Well our thanks to Jeanne horn for covering that event for us. Now on to spruik

objects are you going to dress up for Halloween I'm going as me I should scare everyone. Sometimes I'm scared. You know what. What you're supposed to do for hollowing is dress the opposite of what you are. You can be a little angel. Well you can't control your money in the answer right. Hit the streets of Pittsburgh recently to find out two things number one how to score the most Candy very important. And number two the most important how to keep your kid safe on Holloway. October 13th birthday is rapidly approaching. So I went straight to the expert to get to this guy that tips tricks and treats. What's the best way to say trick or treat to get the most candy this Halloween

trick or treat smell like that. It is a really good mood if you don't. I don't care I'll put on your underwear. What's the best way to say trick or treat to get a lot of candy on Halloween. So you're listening to always working but still pondering the perfect Halloween costume here at spot like costumes on the south side as wanted to choose from store on a camera. What costumes are popular this following everything from Medieval to Harry Potter to you name on the go go girls. It was a great you know anything retro and fun. People are looking just have a good time and fun. How do they track the trends of costumes. And I track down by paying close attention to the media what films are popular what videos have just

been released what commercials are hot what the young people are saying Come join because all of that in the costume and history. The scary point you know in Pittsburgh cemetery Phantoms in the park. I had no idea. Stations where I can't believe you remember something. How do you think invented how we can write Frankenstein may have invented Halloween but it takes a lot of creeps to keep the holiday creepy Officer Dan crime prevention unit from saying three

police is here with a few tips what do you tell families about staying safe. The first thing that we suggest. People do is of course we trick or treat during the approved day and hours of their municipality in the city of Pittsburgh. That's on Oct. 31 from Friday PM. And if they're unsure about the times in their neighborhood they can call the place of borough building absolutely already now it's very tempting to eat all the treats while you're out walking around what you say about that. What we suggest is parents make sure their kids eat a good meal prior to going that way they'd be less tempted to eat any of the treats they collect Now once the kids come home and on the candy bag on the floor what should the parents do. The parents absolutely should go through the candy. If there's any unwrapped candy they should disregard that Candy and if they believe any of that Candy has been intentionally tampered with they should notify the local authorities now it's probably pretty tough to track where the candy came from. What we suggest to help alleviate that problem is have the kids only trick or treat in their own neighborhoods. Don't go to any stranger and that way be

easy to keep track of where the candy came from. OK and final tips about safety reflective costumes what we suggest is that where children cross the street and are wearing a mask they take the mask off walk again. Then Officer Dan from the crime prevention unit thank you very much thank you thank you. For on cue I'm going to get the answer. I'm wishing you a Happy Halloween. The city of Pittsburgh is only five to three hours to really get a lot of candy you can load. I think I like the idea of having kids dump it out and then the parents go through it decide what they want. Officer Dan forgot that I forgot that part. I was working in my lab at PNC Park they're working on on Pittsburgh's North

Shore it's all dressed up. Well that's kind of stretching it around. Well it's really dressed up in a new saw and they put the sod down at PNC Park today. It's almost an official ball park now the Saab is specially blended. Kentucky bluegrass and it was trucked in to Pittsburgh from Veron Michigan. Ninety six thousand square feet of it. That figures out to be almost two and a half acres. As part of the preparation trenches and irrigation pipes when stalled they ran and they went everywhere. Gee whiz they can drain 14 inches. Not an hour all that was covered with dirt and then a four inch layer of peat gravel then a 12 inch layer of something called root zone which is a combination of ice and their own it's a combination of sand and peat and that will nourish the glass bleeds so they can grow up and be a big beautiful ball field and that ends our garden segment for this evening.

Look at that it's going to be great is that they're supposed to drain so that if it rains. Oh if you want you know they want to shut it down. Wow. They just drain right through the whole deal that of all and that's going to do it for us tonight except for one more piece of news. And this is a brand new business courtesy of Onkyo editor photographer Frank Kelly Arrow and his lovely wife Amy. They welcomed their newborn son Antonio Giovanni this past Friday night at 11:15 p.m. as he made his grand entrance into the world weighing in at a mere eight pounds 12 ounces that was sunny there. That's a ball that's all made a ball. Now Baby Antonio Amy and dad Frank are all at home now and we are sending you congratulations and lots and lots of love. Look at that beautiful baby. Great that's great. And of course you can always catch a rebroadcast of this program tonight at 11:30 or tomorrow afternoon at 12:30 and we'll see you back here live tomorrow night good night good night. Third

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