An hour with Tom Brokaw

from the dole institute of politics at the university of kansas a pierre presents an hour with tom brokaw i'm j mcintyre tom brokaw with the anchor and managing editor of nbc nightly news for more than twenty years has a book the greatest generation details the sacrifices of everyday americans during world war two his latest book booming voices of the sixties chronicles the events of that decade and his own observations as a young reporter robot peers as the two thousand at a new world all lecture fee fi fi or fantasy world festival and fifty f and now here is tom brokaw forward for gary o'toole were for pro a lot of people in the audience today were here when you helped us dedicate the doors today in july two thousand three and it was a really spectacular event if you weren't was it was labeled

that greatest generations greatest celebration and you are fantastic and see do you remember anything specifically ordinance there that might remind them that well i do i do i remember that it was the celebration of an important air in american politics and american life bob dole as the apotheosis of that generation lives of orca fought for so bob i'm already gone through and word came from him and then what he meant to this country and then that day to see all the members of the greatest generation and republicans and democrats gathered together talking to each other which we have four to little man you know bob was a young bob was a warrior for the republicans or dzhokhar survive the tough guy to deal with when you're a journalist but at the end of the day he was always thinking about what was best for the country and how a move forward pass on a few days ago and he's still in that regard the you were

great and water will receive these days are complaining about that but very mildly and when i was here that day i thought the dole institute is a perfect symbol of what this country needs to have and as i go around the country now from that generation and i've seen video of john lunn public policy institute of ohio state of bubbles very close friend there are upset at the political spectrum george mcgovern george mcgovern wire in south dakota and it's for students and citizens whatever their voice can come in and see the reward and they are a public service and i've and borrow a cup of water and a half and talking well the need for us to be reminded about and i've been using the phrase will have to kind of re enlist and so this is you know the challenges are great and those challenges that they face for for greater but they were never not citizens they've served their country in war when they came

home and one of an easy enough to them to put down their weapons at the mine here i have one goal in this one about me that they get an american legion sponsored a baseball team wives and husbands of that generation and every community i ran for the school board ran for the city council in the church wharton's got back in their temple ran for governor ran for congress ran for president of the united states and they're softer don't think so it just seems to come to something like the goal is to get and then to see that wonderful world will boggle me a sandwich or see the roots of his life the difference for poetry on what just go back to your previous book the greatest generation what got you that first interested in that generation that lived through the great depression save the world or in the second world war and remade american society after while the product of a white or ninety four in my parents for sure

prices approached my dad quit school at egypt and the work of the camp for her travel time when rose up and my mother was very bright woman and was that your reportage but never a successful farmer they lost everything over abortion my purse from maryland cobbled together a life and was ceo of a dream about doing better for your children and when the war came along with warranties it's awful in south dakota we were forced to my that was then assigned to that base and stay there during the liberation so my first memories of life our girl one boy off to work coming home from war and ammunition being tested i just thought we were going to live in a state of war and for new at age three four and five were canceled and the corridors of the nineteen fifties especially in this part of the world on all their public works project for the bill itself go there really big dams on the missouri river and my dad would work for fourteen years and in every community that we live in the

greatest generation i don't think a lot about their legacy or what they'd worn two hours of living with an oppression and because of that for my parents sensibilities about how they were strictly and they worry that it would happen again and you know you say the pledge of allegiance and your boy scouts and you'll find that love of country and i had to be a journalist and life turned out very well for me in on the fortieth anniversary of d day normandy to do a big documentary on the fortieth anniversary of the first time that the country really began to pay attention to what happened on the moments in nineteen forty four and i thought i go to northern france and its good food in mixed with weiner and have a good time and we ran to the veterans of d day antics and they're with us and i stepped out on the beach at omaha beach the first morning camera crews around and to veterans and when the first wave and a five cent

simpsons transformation i knew were taught the people who raised me wanna murder novel minor later lorio one was both ways the pennsylvania for that sort of thrones about what they've been through and the guys at the last minute on backless forecasts say really shaken by what i've heard in the best sense of the word and in the cafe was that congressman from oregon and senate have been wrong guy known as a very tough guy politically we came over in an innocence a lot of it we're number two more years before the role model for cricket a second or about four years ago and i said what happened and he told me that harrowing tale and it told our story you tear after they won the silo and he began the week and his wife tried to get him to

stop any side i want to hear it and i left there that they finished the documentary that week and it was now part of who i am and so i collected these stories have been formally known around the country start using and commencement speeches and other workers were my friends about it fiftieth anniversary comes along today sean i trace these people are coming out of the great depression saving the world coming home and i thought that we have then i said earlier for the first time i think it's the greatest generation proved and steven ambrose as amir the same day he came or an interview so they got to write for a night in point have the courage to do it i had to do some more work on it and so i'd i had a way of testing and most of my friends are journalists and we'll repeat that worse and what we would get together i would go

quietly introduced a state dinner parties and i would stop any dinner party and people and talk about her was with a dancer with the terms of that and the reason this kind of rising global temperatures so i decided i would write a book and i really wrote it as a thank you know two members of that generation and to my parents and all their friends and i was not prepared frankly for the response it's the largest selling nonfiction work in his true random house there's now a week for most is that while i dont hear from somebody and purging or by mail but howitt says she was the most gratifying part for me is burned the effect on the baby boomers the children of ways in the last two months young women have come up to me sing under the main out of the late forties an absolute your horizon so i read your book i was a strange my father i we cannot communicate he had a different view of the world and i do and

i rejected his view of the world and we just didn't talk until i read your book and thank god i rather than one home made an effort to get an ally that for the first time and learn what he had gone through i now know what i have to smile so will it lead baby boomers and second in your new book but what strikes me is this voter timing an end and the way he presented the book but these were not a generation of people who to their own horn who came home and couldn't wait to tell the stories to report are controlled all right now there was a big piece of a crackdown they were truly modest and they were humble and i i think it grew over its recent oppression first of all you know they went through deprivation sacrifice and minimal wrong why it was the way you got through that oppression with that gets ruined by hopi each other by fixing your own car lying

to know you know i can regenerate was my mother dawn my socks the piano and i was yes it's a you're expected to show up at some point i asked my pocket boyle's going to get my shoes shined sort of awkward wouldn't want get my shoes shined i was at and i looked up and the entire shoe shiner progress so is on what happened i know every terrible you think enough money left over irish activists a pure product of my mother and you know you grow up warning out of new signs and you didn't have didn't take last summer for the baguette and will a long way from thousand and i were in and cut a record myself and i thought that you know apparently are last minute

never heard of a way out of the ranch that would eliminate separate myself and thats all the money or is all so it in others the factual matters that and i think they were all the products of that in my generation and their allowances to be passed along to others to excel at once in two thousand for you walked away from one of the best but also one of the most grueling and challenging jobs really in the country where the most interesting changes for you since then and how they've affected your reporting which you continue to do and you're right well it's been an enema story now on going from a variance as high profile high level job and in some ways retirement actually i foresee a neo

my family gave me for christmas is a vivid example to very large brass letters am all right abby and worry others say no civilians war i and i'm a very fortunate person a lot of racism and people have been very very generous to me over the years in terms of the response to my ports and stop an industry based on something this on television i was a first timer my family of italian i ended up in this very elevated position that allowed me to go see the world on someone else's dime and so i feel that although i suppose to improve the approximate richard or to give back and so i have overextended myself a summary of its given it has to be more reflective think about larger issues over one recurrent time i saw an officer nbc on our

own songs status there and so part of my role is you're on election night and the studio has been to be what i call the designated a hall monitor chris wallace get solomon when chris matthews goes on to control that happens tiger on six children back you see saturn think about this for a moment if we can forget and then i'm unable of thematically decide what i want to cover how i cover i just add something something out on history channel on top of the plane that was going to do or so it's really good there are some things i want to do so quickly for me but i need to dial back but i would say after having watched having watched the decaying special on the history channel it was far more reflective they usually expect from a network news be seen along one day with his two hours this is not a lot written about him and i knew him a little bit when i was a young reporter in atlanta in the nineteen sixties did know the

moment for wealth but to go back and revisit those days and his role was very good as for twenty years and my judgment now in order for you and it was it was really for our lives by picking his promise is secure we all agreed that we all agree that in part because he was deeply intellectually and philosophically committed to nonviolence which was hugely important and how he and a moral an intellectual way presented the case to the country and the koalas got the bass line he's says the latino immigrant why people a moroccan immigrant white people from racism and that's true so we are all the beneficiaries of the last fifteen years all women to college in his twenty six years old when he took over the montgomery bus boycott which was a really getting one on for a full year

and i think all along that he was on earth forty years now i still autonomous self recently and there is in the south why metaphorically now called the grandchildren of rock for some it's obviously but there the price of what you get if you go to any southern cities there is there is a real rising tide of the black professional sports doctors school administrators legislators district attorneys police chiefs and they all came out there were today's report parkinson's us one was that he was so intelligence and and and have eight hours of his oratory which rubber on the team up in the church and in that moment was deeply rooted only in

the baptist church because that was their cultural center and he can go to the church's anyone ever any audience is there and he could speak to them in terms of presented by native the other part was that there was a very strong black family culture in those days there were nuclear families then and they then our review you know we often hear a lot of things are going wrong we're going to do at the market no question about that across racial spectrums in terms of what's happened as a black family that was happening to white places but there is a score this could have a profound impact on this country is growing up now my favorites are about the transition from when i was a young reporter and in the south and now is and i go back to almost time to time because one of my

contemporaries knew journalists have left almost for cures for mississippian and was astray from the school because the resources and why can't our guy has now gone back to teach there because they change so much and i was down visit him last fall and in the course of the afternoon with and he introduced me to his birth the students and susan's attractive young woman i said relations of undergraduates was a war ii was lonely though most of family and just so her mother came over and said we met yesterday in memphis very well she's an african american mother as a huge change an unknown we should all welcome back and think about that and try to build on the coast in

mississippi over the waist with wooden with race in a different way the rest of the country they are trying to find ways to have to go on and the more of us you are a son of the great plains one reason south dakota and your first journalism job as you mentioned the book and in your autobiography was a tv job and how did your your origins geographical very talk about generational affect your perspective on the nineteen sixties and i won't get into that the new book that as you were you didn't cover haight ashbury like joan didion you didn't you were in in new york city are growing up in and elsewhere have an interesting impact ma i was about it as a product of the great plains and i am sold last winter is my work ethic and when people say to me know you know what was already been yanked in south korea with a high school right so we'll be a one of the things is that you always have to earn your way that you know you couldn't walk away into something and i was a pretty good talker but give you your

melodrama and oh you could either do it or not and if he began to stray if your parents if you kept it from your parents are some in town who would pull we're tapering or you know i'm gonna get back in line here before oreo was a tuesday twyman of invasion again before too long line of reporting child rocker a pianist and pakistan voice aching they get this in sioux falls lawrence and has the support them in wichita you know i'm thinking about her and the impact of and it's been very very helpful to me as a journalist to have those kinds of routes now that we're into the sixties i was also dangerous i want to go around the other great players i wanna know what life was like oh we moved you tell when a nineteen sixty six by what i did with her

first daughter been born that we're one of sixty eight nineteen seventy we are at the center of gravity for the counterculture and no one and with every nuclear family with our traditional upbringing so i live so we were kind of we can pretend that these the renaissance fair or without a friend it was a party was a rule that they elected with robots with them and we would serve on a small element on sunday night we would go back and put that away for the next week as someone they're outside of the concert go to work the next day and so having a grounding idea livery l thorton arabia kind of perspective about what we're going through again you know you can and a uniform way condemned the sixties that we have to do is have a kind of what i call a critical focus on the sixties look it was worth keeping an eye on what that what we should be distorting were sort of opposites lawyers and

counterproductive what went on one of your our main arguments in the book is that the nineteen sixties gave rise to a new more polarizing more bitter politics where politics are we still rapid grappling with these decisions made by politicians and assert its forty years ago one of the things that the sixties this was the wizard people a phrase that came out of the feminist movement actually was the prefers political voters firstly important to you you can organize the political and the women's movement was an example of that support is the moment before that supports moment transcended just race so then every organization or every and first learned how to organize politically and as a result i'm sure somewhere goal would would agree with every summer of his generation i regret walking as a result senators no longer have a chance for example to be reflective during the day and they get together at the end of the day or two and otis spann to recreate worry

about form possible because they were just bombarded all day on our offices why the nra by the wheat growers of montana by the national association of the nea the national education association the teacher's union and they all had very specific interest that was only important to them and they didn't have a broader view so we got divided up and then what happened as well as the nineteen sixty eight american politics when crashing often two different directions the fdr of course in the governor's country since nineteen thirty two and on several occasions with republicans sometimes it was it was pretty incendiary that they communicate and after nineteen sixty eight republican party reinvent itself the silent majority elected richard nixon phrase coined by pat buchanan by the way that move

from the northeast to the rocky mountain west and california and the place of that of kansas integrate find states and the republican party came for more important and another partner lost what they were war in an international aid more than a male so you have the old roman catholic labor coal mission work to end up with the south was shattered and a lot of the young people who want work is in nineteen sixty eight the coroner passion for causes a simple graph the ruffles or email or money or a male i now on the bus and they were often more conventional was an nba game more self absorbed imminence one of the important characteristics of the boomers and i think at the station was i understand that they they they didn't stay the course any number that i talk to my book bull for now their way to do that and have interactive whether in nineteen forty four they were all set

and why it is hard work afterward a master rightly question one of in my opinion the most effective techniques in the book is the waste look back and forth between national and international events of the day like the civil rights movement the vietnam war presidential campaigns in your own as you're describing countries sixties middle class life with a white american your children and you also thought flee document how your own life changed during the time your dress you mentioned already a record collection was altered and you did things he couldn't imagine doing before for congo including how to do i had to become a formula to make that the wave of the book as i really thought that was well i thought about if you're right the worker they gave anybody rights workers to be honest and i think you have to give up something of yourself whether that register is well i'd say in there that i i really did feel as if i were part of

the struggle that articulate or nineteen forty one foot securing the fifties and one foot in the sixties i i often fall for miles an idea i can pull some worthy these great demonstrations and people that two years younger than i am and i beep so that i thought or causes were killed in chicago and on the streets during the chicago convention and then by the first say that i was very opposed to the war that point first live us all the responsibilities of the reporter recovered fairly but that night of the great riot in the streets of chicago it was very chaotic and i went to south dakota on the way home to see my parents alive there were young children and i expected my parents who were one time if you are democrats and delights or apple but for freezing my brother micah gone as a marine my dad was all areas by a college deferment sudano the role class system money at that

and then to see the kids who didn't have to go to war in the streets using american white and various was a coworker and pages of o t and then we got into war raging arguments about what happened in chicago and i woke up the next morning with a we recorded on my own city royals a clear understanding real trouble if they were gonna lose my dad on the streets of chicago they're an intro i don't think of a lot of laughs for what he was not somebody who was going to be stepping out of barricades and he you know he had real serious issues about the war but it was still this country in the one of the you know you want that the young people were coming of age was so much more than he'd ever imagined he could and that's the point that i can push you a little bit maybe for the new in the book it's not a slim volume to get their money's worth and you buy back after the show as befits a

complex and embargo period but at the end you come out and say it's still too early to judge the impact of the sixties and the cure quote is the evidence is still coming in the jurors' to let rich as i could be to be a little more calm come down on one side or another are we better off for having been through this decade with your i was talking about the reports of first of all in the nineteen sixties over and into the coverage for people get so an investment in the issues of the day good better and again how are you want a judge that they were there and they were they were pigeons mr brooms for people of color in this country that was lacking in the movement were former country now as a result of it was for better for women because the women's movement grew out of the sick says the women's movement was a direct benefit or it wouldn't happen the civil rights movement because it was clear that you

demonstrated in an important for it to write sometime or my end other you know other kinds of legal protections and you could and simultaneously raise the consciousness of the country we would be better off without the downside is that we did it all and that people did become so and there was this kind of mocking of traditional values which drove me to this day in a lot of areas and i would often have in our newsroom and i'm always see your purse in there is that one in oakland hip young writers who worked for mayor people who had never lived anywhere else except on the law suddenly or would be kind of the same goals of wiping waiver or somebody tearing up or a particularly emotional moment and these are more supporters comfort and you can't forget that and we

think if you if you think you stand for carson the former journalist oren and more flavorful the last several years has been the evangelical that we've not done a great job of created a couple of years ago on so you spent time in church is the people are bored you find so many of them are not there because their ideals their their biggest sanctuary for them to know that they're not happy with the culture that they see around them and they want a place where they can they control room on sunday and have common values point out the genius of this country has always been that we're a patchwork nature of this immigrant place but that we have tolerance for each other and that's the end of the day were always greater than the sum of our parts why they determined to find common ground i know i can you've had some knock down

drag out political voice of history still sells the fact is that i watch us watching you begin to work it out they're more without water now that was until one side or the other people who didn't agree with what appeared to be the thinking of the state rosa got active in politics again and i use kansas is an example the democratic governor in a very red state same thing is true in arizona janet colorado's a democratic governor of a very conservative very the war alike state legislature are getting things done and that's the way it works of god and what works best not to give away the ending of boom but you ended on what may seem surprising outcome consumers we're talking about after all the assassinations in the spring of sixty eight and the chicago convention and the election of richard nixon with the famous southern strategy you conclude with the famous image of the

earth taken from the apollo eight spacecraft explain how you can decide to wrap it up well have a yellowed the pyramids of you in this room would boomerang visited the weekend remember most about leno will remember telephone so we remember some people were killed young men in vietnam on ivory coast of fresno was a year for them are going back in march we got color the roof on st joseph's your inner cities across the country by kennedy was assassinated i've talked to a lot of young people for eight nine ten years old that time they said their first impressions of life or that if you have a if you're politically popular very good shot because they were growing up and they just said it took me a while to work my way through that and then you know the counterculture you know you had people rejecting young people rejecting everything that their parents that

the traditional family the moral contract of a country well the service to country they rejected or now as i like to say these are the same parents who when they're that it would go rock concert and inhale or and just anything that was until now you find them only in the organic food section of the board and i say to their children well the last time your mother you know you look at a transfer let me share something with you so in writing the border researching and i'm having a lot i was a big transition know who tom hanks really made famous before but did on apollo thirteen houston we have a problem around where the moment i got around to come back and he was on a politician which they went to the moon

to make a rendezvous with the moon in for a moon landing and our ops goddess am and educators of emblematic of that kind of bright star is that it is now and his enthusiastic a negro truman really reassure actually wrote one room apartment in milwaukee with hamas even when he was a kid got himself into the naval academy so they go to the moon and i he describes going to add two thousand miles out the first time anybody's ever done that they know what they refine their owners at boyden an annoyance to the moon and they sit it is to announce to the moon has been given sort of a park or raucous i turn the spacecraft over the capsule so blunt and his tips over and now they're looking at the backside of a moment those wife was gray form

pocket of the craters utterly silent and are drifting by a second trial first time and kind of the reason the back so their faces are up against the coral they dropped all the reports from out of white boy and on the backside of the moon something catches their eye for justice and as older boy this is beautiful small or with delicate white glove the movie ocean's russia from years rich green rain forest and the sparkling wine in the ice caps in its worth and nasa and not a burden for them because nobody had ever seen it from that distance before and so it was a true revelation from the three astronauts and i was at that time not all the famous charter of putting his thumb not any higher

at five the entire earth behind a song from that distance and he said again in perspective into the roth and we were all on the spaceship together we better find a way to get along and so when they came back to those old horror bo gratitude from people saying thank god we're alone now before they came back on christmas eve a ride from justice and they read different parts of just the one and god around the country at the time a lot of activists people to reveal its proposed military syllable by me i was still grieving so i don't see a lot of other people were longing for something that they can the test themselves to an aye

then store brand who was an intellectual he was the inventor of the whole earth catalog some of you may remember it still is very experimental with the new time images though the really bright guy and you for storytelling put that image on the back and he had a simple capture and it was we can't work together it is together because of this whole discussion about to get it together and he said last vote that made four years later he said its organizers of the devices compostable over that we've kind of become lawyers to citizen lunsford time of some necessary to rule on sending and what people are writing in the streets and the unknown woman had a right to demand rewrites and we needed to examine what our government was joyous about things like vietnam and we knew the whole people more accountable with

penguins want to fall and now we need to work harder at getting back to me one last one for me is set in the anchor's chair during what might well been the last hurrah of the network news the kind of a high point and what could happen in the near future is and what their own newscast or whether it was jerry anna huffington or hugh hewitt or jon stewart we're all struggling with and they were throwing women as much as we are in the morning by our hope is and i guess the more time working on this i was one of the people who helped put together the marriage of nbc and microsoft and creative msnbc because my first became aware of what microsoft was up to eight hundred and one again in our business and we want to get information and you can see the small screen among those osama laptop computer screen is intense mortar soulful murder of the day our hope

is that we can successfully married are slightly larger screen television to smaller screen whether it's a laptop or a pc at home or for a pda is your carry around with you because we're still gatherers of that information the start of the year will come other space and landed in the eight to one of two footed only gallery still matters and so we're open to that there is a very unsettling of all that we have at the paper really that rupert murdoch is talking to microsoft about becoming their partner and try to take ovary abu i hate that the vote that there would be a colossal partnership an urban river knows what he's doing you think we're very worried because it gives this expanses rick he's a very very

shrewd investor and his corporate structure is fundamental because it's better positioned than the one i know is on cable is a newspaper isn't on facebook alone he he sees the future with a record almost every day over many of the male final clubs and that's a big issue for us by dorothy the news they still deliver morrison anybody else in the country in any other medium our last week two of the numbers in my mind again i think between them bryant had eight million for a thousand viewers on a nightly basis well troy denning on one katie is that long way i'm going to vote or there's actually you know where your lesson in our ocean and officer wilson does it have not worked and so we've been here and we you know

those numbers by heart during during the nineties and eighties when you're there are larger or larger all but were living in it for more fragmented world this is the objective reality of where we are many more choices you know it's needed it's still quite astonishing to me the kind of information that you can pick up religious by lawyer while iran and we are somewhat more favorable this is the beginning this is henry ford in a three car coming down a rutted road as white it's changing rapidly and you know you really go all over the world because of sound like footprints will change and it will be much more sophisticated and there are couple cautionary notes one is that you're going to have to be much more aggressive as a consumer of all that information to determine what we can trust what you can and how much of those words coming from who gathered to know

what you can believe police and huge critical point we have to be careful that we don't get stampeded just because something comes in over the transom are possible manner shows up some war on drugs or on a clinton voter you know it still requires professional people to go through and check at that in order to figure out whether it has me you're as were wealthy as roper's kindly offered to answer some questions from the audience on if you have a question for mr rocha i believe we've already gone through this raise your hand one of our student volunteers who are coming and the door will bring you a handheld like mark want to start many in the media that indicated that this election is the most important election of our lifetime i'm personally disappointed that you hadn't declared for president now retired but i would like that from your perspective i'd like to know what you think is at stake in this election i think it was a

one man saves the most for more from our lifetime nineteen sixty eight was critically important and once unheard of it has to do from institute you can say that nineteen forty eight crapped of the war and we know where our laws have china and the soviet union at that time i was a very important option were on the cusp of the korean war i said what's at stake this time and kind of macro terms is getting the country really mold in its own destiny and my lines no i don't care if you're republican or democrat or a literature and now is the time to step forward a hundred years now an historic make a judgment about this time you more we just about john mccain or obama or senator clinton will be among all of us because this is a citizen democracy and we have always been at our best when we have enabled and there has been for a variety of reasons a

retreat from the public arena i think part of it is the conditions that made it difficult for ordinary citizens again and all they have to meet too many litmus test you know the wannabe republican denny always litmus test for democrat debbie all these litmus test of money placed too much of a pardon or the other particularly a lot of tension but honestly as a hold your immigrants you know the congressional districts have been divided out so they're really secure for whoever the incumbent is and i just was talking about a few moments ago we know the system is broken and what we need to go and completely reform how we choose not presidential candidates but the kind of system that we have a way for elected public officials the consequences are pretty rare but that goes off the rails and we got lost our way here in the last few years in terms of acting in terms of what we say should be the common cause of the country there's been too little

while i mean the jury all the debates i think that they're very hopeful of the country is an opportunity for two men and a warm or i'd like to get to less noble now in terms of so the next president of the united states something about this renewal next for the united states will help us opening acts last hundred years of the war in two countries the subprime mortgage mess which will not be solved by then buy it is we've got an enormous federal budget deficit and we have coming on very quickly online been homeless program which are not just under finance their mountainous in terms of medicare medicaid and the enormous challenge of doing something about health care mr allen so that we can make it available more people and we have more than just want the key point for us is that all along with egyptian

policies sort of or a third of the country would do buckle falls and that we have that we award doctors there in a variety of sizes and yesterday when a daylong session science education and we're now seventy two world in math and physical sciences and are standing and we've got to address concurrently were not allowing him to the country and the people's photos from the asian countries to do i have a big appetite for science to come here inserted our institutions and they'll be overwhelmed so that there are there are big issues this time my mind as

well to have to go out there and they have about now as i'm around the country for the last eighteen months i find the country a symbol and that there has been a real diminution of what news to be unique and ideological verizon from the left to the right people now are much less interested and are a much more efficient solutions here to come in for a lot of the far right you got the answer i'm willing to listen and i think when you get back and it's happening in the states that happens here in kansas is happening in montana was on a lot of time around the country somewhat innovative solutions and i've seen it come from the ground up and from the states working out because in part because citizens them had their public officials are accessible and within reach in the state legislature has come home and walk down main street you have access to for waterfalls rich daley who is the youngest

son of the sort of old mayor of chicago one hour next year be in office longer than his dad was an article ii you want him at the scenarios in the country and you would take a lot of pride mike wilbur job is imprinting or the riches now and he says this is a guy who grew up in the traditional rivalries that you can ask a citizen without a reason for them recently get a good answer so you know what but we were not the political system or should we so we have to report her and were the one to go see a question here yet provide your public commentary during the current race and then the obvious character as effective a woman being a formal candidate or a biracial gentleman being a foreigner looking at what other aspects do you find to be particularly compelling and unique about this particular contest to be prosecuted in a forum where cromwell

was most of these tumors come on turn to walk over them and chu will personally candidates on substantive issues he was a talk about education you were almost nothing on education and the chorus came because it all gets quickly reduced the tactics and strategy and who made a life blogger and our coverage gets reduced to gotcha i caught him on one little phrase here some are gone maybe mistakenly to the episode for example which he said the rumor is a performer across the tarmac that's our people and their plan and even andrew mitchell said you know we were told us about her flak jackets coming and i've been there six weeks earlier it was not a hostile country but there was a lot of nurses who are trying to land because it had been a war zone that law so but that get blown

off of them while portions song summer obama's had his own issues with the minister for example which didn't make a big speech and that becomes the whole concentration four for three weeks when you get back to what you do have is a booker well the campaign seems to me to be asked to move from this week in theaters now and before too long i believe lindsey has the email from either would've auto mr edwards yes this is from a lane heard she says i'm two hundred pages into and marlene every word and i convince my book club treated as well which respected sticky must by surprise by that i mean who's perspective on an event or air at maybe say oh i never heard that anyone say that before or well that's a totally new way of looking at that event or air well i guess what i was surprised by the most room two young activists who intervene meddle too late middle years now are

feeling song bills that they abandon their calls and and and insanely arena and a recognition that one of them said to me i never learned anything from of all except for martin luther king of organization because he had gotten stuck forensic way to monitor gone way too far that was too much unable and that was going on so i suppose that's a crime against the person the truth is it surprise people read the book most of all was one was that kris kristofferson was an army ranger and had a picture of him with his crew cut saddam's arranger and we at the beginning of nineteen sixty eight he was invited to west point to become an instructor in english literature you are you're a rhodes scholar and a little more vocal or and the army was his life and he went to west point after most people serve with them and they said he was in no exactly true blue or anyone american west point's

teaching english literature and he decided he really want to take a crack at writing country songs in nashville so again as elena as a janitor and he flew helicopters to the golf on weekends to the oil platforms resupply the un working for a private contractor that was the beginning of nineteen sixty and nineteen sixty eight when he was acquitted herself predicts what law they don't want it in the front how do you foresee that congress is ever going to start working together and stop acting like a bunch of children well i think i think the message from the country so clear that this is now one of the concerns will be it really is that you know and one but three white conical hat on again or if you have a lot of big sweep this fall the democrats dominate both chambers some very wise people

the republicans this time are in trouble because they allow the same hubris of the us in that overthrow the veracity and had taken on the republicans so if you do to make that but first we're going to take some white leadership for the great thing about no we are here today bob dole i remember going down when i try to read the warriors and on the republican side and then every year to state of the union address some go out a lunch for dan and peter and me and jim lehrer and the other people will be covering this visa and we'd be guilty plea deal in there and and bob dole's kind of beyond tires any have there on the republican side a santorum and

mickelson will they would be yo you know rattling the cage coming after you got our village outlook are in this and you got to get the senate and by working as a week without a poisonous of well you know it kind of depends on us keep things moving forward friends including bob and senator simpson and bob kerrey and chuck hagle who's now leaving and sam nunn these are democrats and republicans and i've grown up with uncovered he's a really distinguished public servant and that sort of sudden because of the quantity that's heartbreaking you know it used to be called the greatest job in the world to go there and unknown find people who want to move the country forward and analysis for us and we have to send the cycle in on the negative for the republican democrat or overturn and

that ought to be adjusted work on an attitude when you get there we have an awful lot of a lot of people hoover much more efficient assassination on a lighter note i'd like you to tell them all the hard job you're heading into a huge leave kansas city to really help live and working for an antenna to a lot of labor that it had a great call last week when i said earlier report a person as a great call i'm not much of a golfer reichl it game i put my son a lot and i'm intrigued by it and i'm a big event tours alone go into super bowl the world series the institute's i was

barely alive i've been out the chants it's when you have a lot of them i going to do when they won so i will give us the idea of a minor recall last week for my friend dan jenkins who's the writer of semi tough and all those reports and he is the senior editor of golf editor for golf digest at the masters and a halloween tradition of gold i just a brilliant somebody as their guests for three days and then you end up writing an essay so i'm going tomorrow morning to augusta really give your credentials within three days of rewriting about that i'm holding a baby wouldn't the report and joy time to cut that thank you so much for your time

of nbc nightly news speaking with jonathan gold for the dole institute of politics at the university of kansas it was recorded april ten two thousand a recording engineer was joe baeza net i'm j mcintyre at our presidents is a production of kansas public radio at the university of kansas