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At the beginning of 1983 national unemployment is 11 percent with 12 million Americans out of work. In California the jobless total of eleven point two percent. One county is better off than the next north state total but it still isn't a happy period. The county now had 8 percent unemployment and about 100000 men and women out of work. I'm Jim Cooper and I look at the economic outlook for Orange County with my special guest today. Orange County has traditionally outperformed the nation in the vibrancy and diversity of its economy.
If the county were a sovereign state its economy would rank as 30th among all the nations of the world its economy ranges from agriculture and service business and manufacturing industries and high technology research and development. It also has become the headquarters of international offices of many domestic and foreign corporations. For the past 10 years prior to 1982 its economy created 45000 new jobs every year. Today its total civilian labor force stands at an all time high of one million two hundred twenty eight thousand employed residents according to the State Development Department. But this by that strong local economy it has suffered its biggest unemployment setback in the county's history where 100000 out of work and the likelihood is that it will get worse before they turn about. Some of the hardest hit in 1982 were manufacturing industries with eleven thousand jobs lost in the past year. It was followed by construction in the industry layoffs totaling 400 for 1982. That industry had an unemployment rate now of sixteen point nine percent. It was followed by an
electrical machinery and. Job layoffs totaling thirty six hundred and electronics industry job losses of 79. Nothing could be more personal than the unhappy reality of a lost job nor more important than examining the outlook for the economy in the days to come. And now let's meet our guests Dr. James Doty is associate professor of economics and director of the Center for Economic Research School of Business and Management at happened college. We just completed the fifth annual economic work at the Warren County based on 89 economic variables in a model with two hundred and eleven the lot to talk about that. Dr. Lynn raiser is vice president and senior economist for first interstate Bank of California. She is presently director of macroeconomics for the bank serving as economic advisor to the bank management. She heads a research efforts in improving forecasting techniques in a special study on the horn found economy. Thomas Salvadoran founding editor of the Executive magazine now in its seventh year of publication in orange and Los Angeles counties in San Francisco County and former
UPI correspondent he later married. He later worked for 27 years for BusinessWeek became associate editor the co-founder of executive publications and a longtime News Observer for Orange County. I would like to ask you all to just generalize because you're all into this area of. Forecasting. And it's a delicate area and. I suppose all of you would agree an. Inexact science because it is prone to variables so many variables. I would like to see if you agree in general with the words that we have been seeing words like weak recovery and may make recovery barely strongly. Agree in general with those kind of descriptions that many forecasters have well called a ripe old challenge Jim because I assume we collect some of the same material weak weak and weak. So over the last 10 days I've been. Very diligently looking for. Some science of
recovery. And quickly in the economic polls. I think I've found so. Until breakfast Tuesday all I found was exactly those who said they got letters from their bank saying because of the falling interest rates their variable loan rates would be $300 a month less. But then I began to run into printers who are going to start new businesses from Orange County as it always had more than a share of adventurous people who want to start new businesses. And then I got on the track. Something that seemed very interesting to follow up and that's that suddenly business and industrial buildings are being leased up again and some of them in very large chunks only had time to call for brokers today but they were all positive. What kind of broken every time we've been broken or stockbrokers the on site industrial real estate brokers like colo banker who have large amounts of space too and they
are going into the new year. Really they are not really bullies but they're much happier than they were say six or seven weeks ago. Robot limb research that the Federal Reserve has engineered a very rapid increase in the money supply since about July and this will be the major force which will bring this economy out of recession and I think it will be probably at least a moderate recovery and I wouldn't I would say it's going to be moderate as opposed to when posed on the path that we're at a very low level now so there's a. Great. Room for growth next year. And plus. A very expansive monetary policy that we've seen in the last several months. Yes. Now that the Federal Reserve words again reversed course and suddenly being very restrictive and. Could even develop into a third recession. Proof point how I think they will continue to try to keep this recovery moving. We come to the man with. The way the 211 is going and how. Extraordinary the kind of a complex model must have been.
Tell us about your model and. But first. What about quality that words like weak anemic moderate. Barely barely recovering. If you quarrel with those descriptions. In a way and scenario returns I think in general terms we perhaps is a inappropriate statement at least for the beginning of the year. I think it hides quite a bit that's going on. Underneath the economy. Some areas will be very strong whereas others will be extremely weak in fact continue to have aspects of recession. We expect that manufacturing employment will continue to drop through most of 1983. Perhaps some turn around by the end of the year but service related employment will be fairly strong. Throughout most of the year. Offsetting that job loss terms of Orange County we see some signs of recovery through most of the year whereas in Los Angeles County pretty much a drop. Overall for the Southern California regional economy. No real increase in importance. Until the end of the year. So I
think you have to qualify weak with what areas are you talking about. Some areas of course will be much weaker than others. But I guess what I'm trying to find is a broad judgment broad judgment of what they're going to be like to be around a place called Orange County and traditionally Orange County has been right at the top of the 58 counties in California and California has been traditionally. Up till this past year and traditionally been among the best. Performing States. Where we can keep that up or not. Tell us about this. Model that you construct. And again I'm going to ask you. To tell us in very simple language that all of us who are not economic majors. Can understand. The fact that you mentioned in the introduction that the economy is so complex yet it is very complex complex to an economist as well as a layperson. And a kind of metric model is a tool that we have to try to untangle the various. Variables. And relationships between variables and it helps us to forecast but. More
importantly it's a teaching tool that helps our students to identify relationships between variables among variables and in a complex economy in a complex urban economy. Based on your study though if I were to reduce it to a few sentences as far as the general outlook the tone of the economy for 1983 in Orange County How would you answer. I would say in general we're expecting a very very weak recovery. The fact that we have a quarterly econometric model allows us to see or say that we expect a strong turnaround for the very end of the year. When I say a weak recovery we're looking at specifically in Orange County. I think the key. Variable in terms of assessing the overall health of the regional economy is wage and salary employment and we see the first quarter of this year. An increase. Of 1.6 percent in overall employment. I think that would market is an extremely weak
post-recession recovery but it's significant. In that it will at least mark into three consecutive quarters of decline in employment and that's the first time that's happened in Orange County since we began tracking the series and 1061 is that you see that significant but significant in that it would reverse that downward trend and it's a weak recovery but nonetheless it's employment is not continuing to drop and not expect some some signs of a more rapid recovery by the end of the year. I think a lot of people look to economists and admitting that there are so many variables that can influence. What happens and people like yourself who. Watch that as a casual thing but as a daily part of your life. With a look at these predictions as important things let me share with our viewers and with you. Two or three very wise people who look at these things this comes from their security Pacific vice president in charge of research and I'm here with one of your colleagues. A researcher who. Makes predictions. He's rough he's tough and he's
gloomy. Here's what he said that we're looking at unemployment right to a peak of 8.5 percent and remain high not dipping below 6 percent for that and he was describing that the national or state describing Orange County. Unemployment that goes to a peak of 8.5 percent industrial building permits will remain flat at seventy seven million the year. Compared to a peak of two hundred twenty seven million one hundred seventy eight office building vacancy rate that will remain 15 to 20 percent range nonagricultural employment rate increased by only 3 percent in 83 compared to seven to 10 percent in the late 70s. An investment of sixty six. Hundred. And sold homes in Orange County that are going to be tough to move. That's gloom. Let's take a look at another vice president of a large bank who by the way was a guest on this same program where you people are now Eric Thorfinn the vice president of B of A. Eric said Currently there are several indications of a mild recovery. Again qualify more mild but come pretty close and weak I suppose but the mild.
Personal consumption is on the upswing due to tax cuts and Social Security payment increases. Second defense spending that will benefit Orange County Southern California technical technology is going to help. And the relation of inventory thing to the path and finally. The second most seriously affected sectors autos and housing seem to have bottomed out. There are a few vice presidents of banks who watched the same academy and the same county and one on the side of this from another man. Kaufman his name is Henry Kaufman of the firm of Solomon Brothers he predicts that further declines in interest rates inflation and a sane sustained recovery in the beleaguered housing industry. He said it will be hit with a 5 in one of the weakest. In the world. Then we come to someone by the name and research who says Orange County will benefit from the upturn expected in that for economy needing three. And that the recovery will not be immediate all farm but that more companies will begin to see an improvement in tail order and
1983. So you sound a little more. Than the other one we have to put in perspective and some industries for instance housing you're going to see a 50 percent increase but still be in a slump compared with previous levels. Those prevailing 1007 but I think we are. Very close to the end of a very severe downturn in that most industries that will be in different. Kinds of recovery but most industries will be seeing some improvement at least I think starting one of the very tangible measurement one of the very very tangible measurement. The economy of them women. And when you all agree that you know from a pic you should get that. Ranking and. With unemployment of course it is somewhat of a lagging indicator. We will have continued growth in the labor force. Particularly in areas of California where you have a lot of in-migration. And so that even if you have a fairly sizable recovery even the most optimistic forecasters would say
that the national unemployment rate might still be 8 1/2 percent by you know 1984 because of continued growth in the labor force. If you look at the ratio of employment to the total working age population. That flipside of the employment rate the situation's much better and you might be. Reaching a record high of that proportion by 1985. You talk of Britain and maybe they don't have graphs but they have a gut feeling a sense of the mood and the climate. What are you what are you getting from that. Well I have to agree that. Executives of large companies most of them are conservative. In their projections. They use words like we can model to some of them feel the most. The brightest part of the picture is coming from foreign sales. Smaller more entrepreneurial companies for the most part doing a lot better. I discovered this morning that we are going to finance the.
Second large new office space. Alter systems is taking ninety four thousand square feet. When they do what. They do some defense work a lot of. Testing and lately they start to make burning power plants. And they're getting a lot of action there. Another firm is home health care of America which I have a few times when they're under the heading of service and yet I want to be on a high tech high tech but they don't want any Had are going gangbusters and hard people now alter systems is continually higher and so is home health care and they're moving them to larger new quarters to conduct their business. And I wish I had time to make a hundred more calls I find a lot more like that. So that that that would tend to make you in more on the optimistic side Craig he wouldn't. Have. Just felt the quickening of the pulse now for some weeks being appalled that it's not a scientific feeling of just talking to
people and seeing how they feel. And running into people starting new businesses and. Businesses that have been successful plan and be even more successful. Things like that. I do think the small businessman is going to have to pull us out. And of course some economists feel small business commutes 80 percent of the jobs so that's fine and we've always had a lot of that activity in Orange County that's one of the reasons I feel so beliefs about who is better better than the quickening of the pulse I think with your words. Another thing I'm really curious about is when you're trying to compute all these variables Let us look at the national level and federal level for if we have the Congress right now in a lame duck session where they're grappling. With what will be one hundred seventy five billion dollar deficit this year perhaps 200 billion deficit last. Year and arguing about whether they could raise taxes. At
the same time we have a special session going on in Sacramento when they get the California legislature where they're trying to grapple with what may be a two billion dollar deficit the state budget again with pressure on both places. For. Taxation. For sources of revenue. How do you compute that into this outlook how does that impact in the in the forecast for 1980. When. I think that we're on a very classic case of this issue was occurred in July of 1982 when most forecasters were predicting a recovery. With the force of the tax cut. Yet we did not have a recovery as you know the economy remained flat with no sign we all heard the prediction and I think this is a classic case where you had monetary policy very restrictive. Money supply growth level for several months whereas fiscal policy was similar to what the tax cut monetary policy dominated clearly. So I think that that you have to look at what's happening with monetary policy. In addition to what may be happening on the tax side of
the. Ledger. I'd like to go back to Lynn mentioned before the expansionary monetary policy recently because that is really the key it's not fiscal policy. Fiscal policy could work if there's an accommodating monetary policy to go along we're not worried about the big deficit. Well it depends. It's very difficult for the Federal Reserve Board to resist monetizing this debt which eventually if they do that result in inflationary pressure again. But if you go with an assumption that the Federal Reserve Board is going to restrain monetary growth and we think they will this year we think the current surge in Money is a temporary phenomenon. But if money and money supply is constrained. What this means is that real interest rates will still be too high to sustain or support a strong economic recovery. And even though we expect interest rates this year to decline to a prime rate decline down to 9 percent. That rate is still too high in real terms to support a strong consumer based recovery or prevent a steep decline in business investment that we also see occurring this year.
Let's talk about the uniqueness of Warren County and I'd like all for you to comment on this an interesting new book that you may or may not have read yet. Make a trend. That has a social reality just among other things. Social ecologists. He says that the first pieces he makes is that we are moving into a new society that. This is that is no longer the Industrial Revolution where things are made but an informational revolution. He says that the book is about 10 major transformation taking place right now in our society and that is more subtle yet more explosive. I think than the first to make a shift from an industrial to an informational society I say this because of my experience in talking about this mega trend with people all across America. It always surprises me that so many people passionately resist the notion of an economy built on information and despite a wealth of evidence deny that the industrial era is over. And over here. He talked about California one of the trendsetters in this new this the bright new world of informational economy instead of inductively economy.
Our group collects information about what's going on locally across across the country and then look for patterns. We have learned that there are five states in which both social events occur in the whole country. The other 45 states are in effect followers. Not surprisingly. California is a key indicator state and that's followed second secondly by Florida. He makes this thesis that since we're going into an information society and since California is in the top that a lot of things happen. California typified the change in the whole economy an economy based on information. If we take that to be true then Orange County should be in the more fortunate position because Orange County has a lot of it built on software. Computer technology high tech. Words like that. How do you feel. About that first of all do you agree with the thesis that we're moving into. An informational revolution instead of the industrial revolution. Well I have to agree I had the privilege of listening to Dr. Richard Byrne Tuesday morning.
Said the whole world is where we are and the trends for the technology computers and software and software and information. He made a good cohesive group. I think that we are also in a high tech environment in the 1980s and I think that. Particularly if the policies that are now. Being advocated in Washington to increase saving investment. To encourage more investment productivity raising equipment this will be a major benefit. To Orange County were to have. More than a. Third of manufacturing aerospace. And so this will be an that this should then be a very large area pool and county. In the next decade. But that will also depend on ministration policy being able to carry it out and keep this country competitive with countries.
And what about that. I think economists have enough trouble going out a year let alone 10 years. Maybe I'll leave that to the socially challenged. But there are some of them moving into something like an arrow. There are some trends are already apparent. If you take the ratio of service related employment out of the total employment in Orange County yes it's increased 50 percent in 1961 to 66 percent in 71 and we're forecasting an increase to 70 percent. During the current year. That's an explosive change and it's not only not unique to Orange County I think this is a trend throughout the nation. The ironic thing is although there's tremendous potential. For high tech in Orange County the most depressed industry in our current recession has been manufacturing and even in aerospace. But perhaps in the long run but you speak about that in your report though that we're the recipient that we should be the recipient of a lot of the defense oriented spending that's coming up.
That's right. Defense has just been sort of offsetting some of the weakness on the commercial side. We do expect. Commercial airlines to be in better position by force on the commercial side. So some improvement. And then the defense oriented will reinforce that interesting new study come out by the Office of Economic Policy of the state of California and they claim that they've got a distressed profile for all counties based on what percentage of their population is on food stamps. And based on that Orange County very well we have 1.8 percent of the population they weren't counting the food stamps. Whereas the state norm is 4.6 percent another words out of 58. We rank the highest or 58 What about that. You have an opinion about that. There's no question we have a higher income that's and that's a in fact in terms of the median family income with you go back to the last reported figure Orange County was second after Washington D.C.. I wouldn't be surprised this year if it's the highest in terms of median family in the whole world and.
They also came up with it with another profile of counties that have a lot of their employment up in this very depressed in this county that have their employment in what they call. Invent the growth industry and one of the growth in the technology computer industry aerospace military defense service in industry and software and computers. All kind of software and hotel services and food industries. Do you think you agree with the idea that that could put that in a better position than other counties that don't have as much of their employment in these programs if. That is the case although the county cannot expect to continue the rapid growth rates. It had. In the 70s. Where the national economy also the. Prevalent. Problem. Home prices in the county so that we will not. Be able to attract. Employment. Opportunities from companies moving and. Planning for expansion because of the housing problem and other factors like transportation how much of that
terrible transportation problem than the how do you factor that in the longer run constrains transportation and water availability in housing. Theres no question I would agree with Lynn I think in terms of long run growth that we're not going to see the rapid growth that took place during the late 70s. But what kind of a place is one family going to be fired if the economy and I know that very difficult for. But you must have somebody with a vacant look at the ladies. Any three 84 85 88 wrote one thing and overlook is that Orange County is much more than manufacturing and high tech. It's also headquarters companies and regional centers and. Distribution centers and we're getting a lot more international off than authorities are to. And all of that is created in the society where you have of course more white collar than blue collar. But. That puts the infrastructure
very well. What about that long log in to take a long long way down the five four even five and that. What is your outlook for that. I do I think if the national policy can stay on a track of encouraging saving investment. On a lower inflation economy you're going to have an open source on productivity and that this county is going to benefit highly from that kind of even violent activity is and software and that is that because that is sometimes expertise and concentration where the multiplier and you're in your vision looking down the line and I think the key again is what the Federal Reserve Board will do in terms of the money supply. I think if we look at our current recession. The drop in income of the very high rate of unemployment this is simply a real realization that we could no longer endure the harmful effects of inflation in the long run. I can no longer endure the harmful effects of inflation in the long
time of the run up. Thank all of you for a look at the economy further down the line. Join us next week when I'll be in Sacramento where they want fun if they legislated this stuff and if they budget and a deficit that may reach not one billion but two dollars in the coming year and their efforts to deal with it. I'm Jim Cooper. Thanks for being with us. This is the daily line for free lunches at the Southwest community center a volunteer agency to help the
poor in Santa Ana among the people in the line are homeless women who make up a small but growing population in Orange County. But there are groups like this one with CARE ABOUT THE LONELY plight of these women. I'm Jim Cooper and today I look into the problem. No one knows exactly how many homeless women there are in Orange County but the newly formed Orange
County Coalition for the homeless vets they made that today there are 4000 and the number is growing. Who are they. They're young and old and in between they're teenagers mothers grandmothers single or divorced women who no longer have any family ties or roots. Sometimes they're called Bag ladies because they keep all their possessions in the shopping bag from handouts and sometimes sifting through trash. They sleep on park benches or waiting rooms or even in the lobby of the county jail. How did this happen in affluent Orange County. We'll look into it today and then talk to some of the people who are doing something about it. Each day at the Southwest community center people began lining up at 11:30 a.m. for lunch. Among them are unemployed men and women and they kept the seniors who were in need of food and homeless women and the number of homeless women is growing. Two hundred hot lunches are served each day.
For many it's the highlight of each day the same location also provided Beck with each morning some to women who have spent the night in the public waiting room or in whatever makeshift shelter they can find in Orange County churches. Twenty five of them provide not only the food but the volunteers to take turns in serving as the founder and president and also a volunteer at the Southwest community center and he's been doing that job for 15 years. One of the homeless women say you know what what's it like for them being out there on the street and they say come in here with me Ask for their bread every day. I think you'll see they will if they care they just have to stand around with things till the next morning they send out the ponies rolling former employee to another but they're there.
The center must depend on charity to keep its doors open and keep feeding hungry people. The basic human need that most people take for granted heaping more on getting shelter clothing and who. Often seemed monumental than the homeless women. Some have their children with them making the plight even more difficult. Another group which helps homeless women is the S O S or share ourselves agency in Costa Mesa operated by volunteers. In addition to serving free breakfast each morning the volunteers here provide free bags of food to homeless women and to many families facing the hard times of unemployment and loss of food shelter and jobs. About 20 homeless women a day come here for any of a number of services. One of these is counseling and financial aid or how it is meant to provide money for medicine emergency housing or sometimes help on where to spend the next night. Using volunteer help and who donated by many companies and individuals The center provides
100 bags of food each day. But there are new faces each day and growing numbers of women alone needing help. There are a few shelters for immediate housing they can help to get women off the streets or to help avoid another night in the Buckeye State this is the Orange County interfaith shelter operated by St. John the Divine Episcopal Church nearby. It's one of the few shelters open to homeless women including those with children. It can take up to 16 people for short term notice. One of the brightest new projects in the county is the creation of a haven for homeless women at the San and I y w CA where a new women's day center opened in December the first of its kind in the county. It opened its doors from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. daily for homeless women. It's operated as a partnership by the YWCA and the Episcopal service alliance. A woman alone and alienated from community life can come here and have a free hot lunch enjoy privacy bathe and if she wants to talk with a counselor.
Who I Am and then the directors and the center open in November he's already provided help for quite a lot of homeless I mean. What's the profile of a cliff almost going to become. That I'm gonna write an average of 40 going on the street. Trying to survive. Somewhere. There are some type of small amount of money at the beginning of the month but of course the money doesn't last. Many of them find themselves behind now with the women
that are one of the things that we are able to provide at the YWCA. I talk with them. I have no children. She's financially destitute woman. Or the plan reform her rule. Will all have
women who for Hope who are like the weather will hold your phone. At the close of each day. People of this great Think of getting a hot meal and finding a place to sleep. Homeless women join the line at the Salvation Army hospitality house in Santa Ana along with men who are out of a job and have no home. They start lining up at 3pm the first forty two people are allowed in for a hot meal when the doors open at 6pm the next 200 are given sandwiches because there are no additional facilities inside. Homeless women can stay here for a maximum of three nights. There are 12 beds and bathing facilities all free in the men's section there are 20 beds. The Hospitality House provides good food and a clean place to stay for the lucky ones who qualify for those three nights. The others must look somewhere else. The solutions to the growing number of homeless women may come from people who are simply made aware of the problem
and who care. Their teacher Rich Galen the students of Renato middle school at Irvine unload a truck of donated canned goods for the shelter. More awareness more caring. Both are needed to help homeless women. And now we're going to meet some people who are very much involved with the business of finding the solution. Jean Corbat the founder and co-chair woman of share ourselves S.O.S which provides a number of services for homeless women. She's vice chairwoman of the Orange County Human Relations Commission and a member of the board of directors of feedback foundation providing nutrition daily for senior citizens. Mary Douglas is executive director of the YWCA in Santa Ana which now operates the first women's day center for homeless women. She's also a member of the Orange County Coalition for the Homeless Coalition Against Domestic Violence and the women temporary housing coalition. Jean Aldrich is co-founder of the Orange County Coalition for the homeless and where the chairperson of the major conference on homeless women
last year in Orange County is the member of the Orange County Children's Hospital Foundation board. And this out totting YWCA. Will help us and the founder and director of the Women's Center of Los Angeles which had done much pioneer work on behalf of homeless women since opening five years ago. You served in the Peace Corps in India during the 1960s and later worked for 10 years with alcoholics and skid row area of Los Angeles. I think I'd like to ask you now that we've taken our viewers along with us on the tip on the street that I'd like to ask you if you encounter this same perceptions I have. Were you talk about what you're doing and people say What do you mean home with women I don't think you have them and we don't have many of those going on. You have that. Incredible feeling. That a home with women they don't believe there are any poor people who you know one of them is so much involved with them. And what happens next where we go next time to deal with a problem I know you have the first one and have
you worn out in your five years ahead of us and that we're going to the first one that is exclusively dedicated to the What's your experience about in there and what we would like to see happen. Well I'm I'm delighted that it's happened. And as Jill said at the conference last summer just do it. And I feel that that's what happened with. So many that were deeply involved and understood the problem with the high perspiration that we all were experiencing. But it was the Orange County myth in place that there are no porn or there are no homeless. Especially no homes when not in the. Right. I think it's about you know the new and kind of that kind of skepticism on the part of people when we started working with and the thing with people and that's what I thought I knew about the men because the man's innocent. But we were generally shop till the women who live there have lived there for 25 30 years and now in
Los Angeles not just good row right Orange County there are pockets of homeless throughout the including Beverly Hill in Hollywood that. I think people are beginning to believe that this neighborhood thing. How do you measure success and what other success in working with home with women. From my point one point well I have real small expectations for success and for change because when I look at my own life I know how slowly I change and how difficult for me to change. But if I see someone who was 31 that can leave clean in my clothing with hair wash thinking better about doing better about themselves as one young woman I serve right now who. Wouldn't eat with her plate on the table she's so withdrawn he would with her back the other people at the table HUME Now after about five months with her put it on the table. That's a myth that might not be to some of the do in the. Case of a lot of bizarre behavior. Interesting enough I think when when you look good and feel good
about yourself you act differently and behave differently. You allow other people put into your life and interact with them. We really try to get people cleaned up and looking good immediately first. Like that already. Few years ago there was no such thing as any idea when a group called the orthotic Coalition for the homeless. Tell us what motivated you to do it and what would you like to see your coalition go where I think we started really just a year ago in February where I became involved in this I'm a member of the United Church of Christ board of Homeland ministries and the board of Homeland ministry in 1981 had come out with an emphasis on helping women. As one of their particular empathy for the Mujaheddin wanting to alert the United Church of Christ. Churches to the need that was increasing and also to elude the public and one of the things that they
had bought with the funds was the. Photographic and so on and this was a very delightful young woman who went out and live among the women in the street in New York City came to the live there because the situation that has existed along with consciousness. But I think the church realized that more and more with the government policies individuals and churches to pick up where they were letting on that the church needed to emphasize the king the involved with training and who is also a United Church of Christ minister in Irvine. And we started just a year ago we invited for the nearly don't go to During with them from that. So we reached out that ended in the conference and I feel very the
conference did raise the consciousness of many people we had about 200 people in Orange County we have had many requests. What are we doing what can we do generate good feelings of desire to support the Lord. Absolutely. Just your interest as you told us before we started here how how you have become sensitized to the problem that we are all aware of poverty of course poverty is a fact of life unfortunately but we think that people when they're at the level where they pick who they're with and perhaps that's somewhere in a foreign country would say India with a lot of starvation but not an apple an orange. No you know it is an apple an orange. You're right. We centered on the women in our conference but actually we're talking about the homeless because there are women with children and families that
have this unfortunate situation. But the women I think with that. 2 percent figure are women over 65. Are poor. And 80 percent of black women or with 65. Are at the poverty level. Mean More often than not you're on the verge of not having. I wouldn't and that's why we're on the verge of a horrible time of your life fighting going as I saw people wondering where am I going to sleep tonight. Not work. What am I going to do next week or next month. Where am I going to sleep tonight. I must tell you that with also. Going on over the energy I thought your place where I thought women bustling out and bringing in food and putting food in back with the quiet the mind of the lineup of God and then the people are putting the stuff in the bag with other people doing the
counseling and taking notes. And the thing that impressed. And I said well how many help you have there with a bone here. We've never had that moment where the marble thing that work you don't devote all of your work on to the home when you have other people who are deaf to homelessness or the need for housing it's probably the most basic problem that we have to face because they're not difficult to solve. And it's not always the homeless woman by herself that worthless every day with families or that's you know this is her will be home with their mothers with small children in the housing situation which carrier saw her and that that went through either through to take twelve hundred dollars. Have you met this kind of skepticism we're talking about a people thing when I'm in the home with women. It's not all that bad you're making a big thing of it. Oh yes. One of the people. From to go to the motels along Harbor Blvd and see how many families were sent and I sat well that you know that one of our families with four children
and who lie and said that some of them do have a very small stipend at the beginning of the month. Maybe that long on the eleventh of the 12 that money runs out and then they're in that bag and I haven't been the word away and the money. We sent our photographer and a printer for thought very talented photographer with channel 50 out on the street. And we asked him to capture some of that to bring our audience in because I think one of the services that we can have is to dispel the myth as you referred to the myth that it didn't happen somewhere out here. And so I've asked Well we're talking about it and some of those who are your the are. Coming back to you again all over again the words would like to go with your coalition. What. Are your immediate priorities. You need to accomplish media priorities to really networking among the agencies that are working with this problem
or an interface that you have shown on here. Group number but with very little support and very little recognition and so to. Point up the people that people come to us. Where can we help. We want to get involved when they are called for a bath. We're not the sort of an umbrella organisation. We're not trying to raise money or so we're not trying to be a separate organisation we simply wish to provide a network for these are the same and hopefully the political clout we look for little bit what what political thing would you like to have done. I'm thinking I want to buy the park which we have one member of our coalition marrying Garrido who is a the councilwoman in Irvine and he's very active in that she has been working
and knows how to because she's a city councilwoman to work with the vine with the making contact with supervisors. Federal law is very important for somebody like myself. I don't know these things I wouldn't know where to go but if you're kind of dynamism and energy for a bath and all over again what with all the energy coming out and not one penny of it. I think people who are in the other know about that and the woman the center the women. When I go through the conversation with I said well you know I want to I'm doing that every day they're doing that without going people like how do you find I don't know I think.
I'd like to report what you've been a pioneer. You have really been a pioneer in a lot of work. And you're ahead of us and kind of coming down and popping with us about it because maybe. Some of the mistakes that we can avoid the ones out there that we've been at I think we're all in the weather and the dinner with everybody more concerned about that. What advice would you say that we're trying to do what and avoid some of the pitfalls that you had to cross over. Well I think that the word is out there. I think the first thing we have to do is raise people. And when you do that people really are willing to help that they're willing to do hands on kind of work with the poor and that might be cooking that might be washing dishes that might be visiting with people that might be a lawyer can comes in and does free legal for the psychologists to come than run through a hairdresser who comes and the people are out there and willing to help us we have to be able to channel
their will to me. Kill her with some of the things that do we have after them appreciative of the keyboard and we're going to the coalition meeting that said that had to do with your play Tell us about that you know. Well we're in an old storefront building that black on one of the dining area we serve meals for 30 to 50 women and they cook they do all the dishes. Help do the cleaning the library we have the books do they care about the project getting people to read. But those who live in the coming the good the hotels don't have a television or radio so Homa is wonderful. Staffed with volunteers also here in front of our own kitchen preparing the meal for the tourists come from all over the area. You have a shortage of bone through and we know we're in pretty good server too. This is another picture of the dining area for the
women for that small four person table. For that they can work with other women that once were very nice. Are there lots of friends that come and join us for lunch. This is one of my favorite women with women from being a burden to carry and known to the press. This crosses all of that clothing on the street corner of the wall seen here on an upside down pale with a shock on the pill that you turned upside down. You put a plastic tarp over her. Sixty. Nine years old and now that you know have we took her to Social Security and help to get our Social Security started and he were there for her but she lives in a little hotel and come see us when. We were talking you know you were caught up in about political issues and so forth one of them had been a proposal that the homeless in Orange County would be allowed to go to the park or public parks for 45 days instead of pulling them out
and I'm informed by representatives from the Human Relations Commission. But that's been turned down on the grounds. That it would be preferential treatment. Tend to look into this further. That is too bad that I think the request was not for spaces that's for sure. Which There are several hundred will last you for 30 33 30 bases for the nearly $5 a night with the family or someone else. Are you going to pursue it further. I have some homework for people who are listening they want to get involved let me give you phone numbers that are important for you if you want to get involved. All you have to do is write a number with a pencil the first one if you want to give some help who can give it to the Salvation Army and that phone number is. 5 4 2 9 7 5 0 that the Salvation Army 5 4 2 9 7 5 0. The other one is the YWCA Women's Center 5 4 2 3 5 7 7 and there are other many other group a Southwest community center
where we saw that earlier run by you may trip and yet they're with us run by and for Beth and I both in the phone book. What's your biggest dream I have a few seconds left with what the what's your big home things are. I was I was with and I know we're going to have to move along awake and alert and. A time bomb about what I want to thank you for extraordinary giving of yourself and all of us to give ourselves about this problem. Join us next week at the same time and I'll be looking at the problem the problem of prejudice and discrimination and on. The same time I'm Jim. Thanks for being with us.
Series
Jim Cooper's Orange County
Episode
Economic Outlook for Orange County.
Episode
The Homeless Women
Producing Organization
PBS SoCaL
Contributing Organization
PBS SoCal (Costa Mesa, California)
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Episode Description
Jim Cooper and his panel discuss the state of the economy in Orange County and theorize about the economic outlook for Orange County.
Episode Description
Jim Cooper looks at the issue of homelessness especially homelessness among women in Orange County.
Series Description
Jim Cooper's Orange County is a talk show featuring conversations about local politics and public affairs.
Genres
Talk Show
Topics
Economics
Social Issues
Women
Public Affairs
Politics and Government
Rights
Copyright 1982
Copyright 1983
Media type
Moving Image
Duration
00:58:01
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Credits
Director: Ratner, Harry
Guest: Doti, James L.
Guest: Reaser, Lynn
Guest: Self, Thomas
Guest: Forbath, Jean
Guest: Douglas, Mary
Guest: Aldrich, Jean
Guest: Halverson, Jill
Host: Cooper, Jim
Interviewee: Tripp, Annie Mae
Interviewee: Lyon, Judy
Producing Organization: PBS SoCaL
AAPB Contributor Holdings
KOCE/PBS SoCal
Identifier: AACIP_0968 (AACIP 2011 Label #)
Format: VHS
Generation: Master
Duration: 00:30:00
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Chicago: “Jim Cooper's Orange County; Economic Outlook for Orange County.; The Homeless Women,” PBS SoCal, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed March 28, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-221-88qc00n4.
MLA: “Jim Cooper's Orange County; Economic Outlook for Orange County.; The Homeless Women.” PBS SoCal, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Web. March 28, 2024. <http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-221-88qc00n4>.
APA: Jim Cooper's Orange County; Economic Outlook for Orange County.; The Homeless Women. Boston, MA: PBS SoCal, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC. Retrieved from http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-221-88qc00n4