The Linda Belans Show; 4; Public Funding in Arts

welcome to the land of ellen show i'm in the balance they're a few lightning rod topics that can rival public funding for the arts politics in the arts don't just intersect they collide frequently chewing up and mercilessly spitting out those who dared enter the ring it's a debate that no one can win at least not yet because public funding for the arts has to intertwine with people's political religious and moral agendas both on the left and the right so much negative focus has been located here in north carolina because our senior senator has made public funding for the arts and national agenda item what is frequently overlooked on that agenda however is that north carolina is also the home of the nation's premier residential arts institution the north carolina school of the arts celebrating its thirtieth year has produced artists who have taken their places at the metropolitan opera and the mark morris dance company the new york philharmonic and other prestigious arts institution it's my first guest today is john e lee considered the father of the school of the art he nurtured it from conception to reality in nineteen sixty five under governor terry sanford <unk> really is also the architect of the north carolina school

science and math yes for native is the preeminent author with about sixteen novels and biographies including his nineteen seventy one novel the journey of august king the film version which he also penned will be released nationally next month there's already talk of an academy award nomination <unk> really a unc chapel hill graduate is the recipient of numerous literary awards and the prestigious governor's award for distinguished meritorious service he lives in winston salem was married to the actress rosemary harris their daughter jennifer ealy will star in the pride and prejudice television series next month <unk> will be joining us on the phone from his home for a discussion on public funding for the arts joining us later will be tart or a native ben jones actor writer and politician who president clinton considered to have the national endowment for the arts also be checking in with north carolina arts critics for their list of nineteen ninety five favorites and their disappointments they also preview nineteen ninety six call us with your nineteen ninety five picks at six eight five one thousand stay tuned for them and the ellen show

tears it's been welcome to the land of ellen show on the phone with me from winston salem is author johnny lee hello john i'm good thanks for joining us today what john yoo you're an art activist and advocate a man who met with great resistance when you first pitched the idea of a state funded school of the arts can can we assume then that you're an advocate for public funding for the arts

i'm an advocate of the arts and they have to be funded through gestures up over one influential church now allies that will be i think a fiction fiction initiative away from the office go vermont do you think that there's no way to overcome that and still have public funding to think it's inherent in the system of public funding well i'm not a political newcomer that takeover will require some some differing attitude on the part of the people doing the public funding requests to have an interpreter of confusion within the phone at the archives in control

so that if an artist should an artist receives public funding or just arts agencies well i'm a little bit suspicious when individual trees to get suspicious when they were to receive an award or a political prize that that's not going to win what they want to do is determined by a panel or a committee and becomes complicated i know a lot of the money went almost intolerant to argue record your own version of inertia hanks four hundred and one dollars and we go up to a mortgage that had to go through the channels and they were always saying than that there should not be public funding directly to artists but that's the problem

well if there isn't that kind of funding let's just say we take it a step further how will our to survive matchless thrive anywhere war artists come from they will go to the village have our artists get an invention of the united states they have always been an all conference that time and day paul returned home to villages and the unenthusiastic about over the government competition political ad but they'd have to pressure the government would have to purchase a pate with some parameters i guess is what you're saying and that's the problem that's that's the heart of the problem that it's an artist's accept money from the government isn't that almost an oxymoron to say i want your money don't tell me how to

use it i think it's very difficult for the government to function except through bureaucratic organization and it becomes complicated and it becomes an element in the arch which is not they aren't the people in the bureaucracy rather partners and yet they're the ones making decisions on some well you learn some some lessons so when you were trying to end eventually did get the school of the arts up on its feet and running now thirty years old can you talk about your initial concept for the school and how did you figure that the state could make a school like that function without the legislature having discretion over administrative responsibilities and i'm just so interested in what made you think about a school of the arts and howard dean built it was also the official government

and religion for the continent even when we're not to become performing on it's all visual art which they were several reports exposed we want our young artist from austin london and those years between fifteen and twenty five when my client call it alive and would like to give the virus to think you're really rooted in folk against london and then you it will continue to emerge the techniques we would have to attracting code switch on our lives the history of running is thin and he's going to show

modest lives of people running and it might even invite him to a runner to talk about his experience at running as he had known in infinite cover the date of immigration and by the time he got through it even tougher the veteran who had to coach a candidate in either see a way to change the kind of components so you say you came up with this idea for a residential school the arts and when you propose this idea that governor sanford at the time and what happened then only voted with it goes back and so fortunately he appointed a commission just over the mountain on the commission they put important senator gordon came

to put other influential romans and then they were deported when government can show to return for the group to help a former ohio that commission came out with a recommendation and the governor approved it in that you can induce the mission and involving republican gun and so when that was no resistance only kind of hard to believe that we talk about that a little bit well we would have hearings on oil and an amateur music of the things that the chairman of the political world of political movements carolina

and they would oppose it that's interesting i thought you were to say you met resistance from political figures that wasn't even the problem the main problem was really opposition <unk> came from women over the world and global warming coverage the book too well this is really interesting to me when wendy's when you think happened in the last thirty years that that the arts have become a political problem if it wasn't a political problem to open a residential art school and now we have lots of political artistic problems what what turned the tide there one of the political problem with you have a politician and buchanan another business he became part of the governor's agenda so they were able to influence the only opposition rhetoric and one

when it was discovered that actually been proven that would love an art form of the militant group at the north carolina allies that i don't want to include music program and we do that in churches but i think to the client and not the room do you think it has something to do with the fact that the dancers simply about the body moving in space i think for years and mama my grandmother had made three of structure and that i was to follow and my quarter one has never go to a bank systems ever get a girl without a wooden fence between and now a woman

who can upload caf know that that many else's thought she never would've objected to music well can you talk a little bit about about how then you talk to work with articulated the the idea of the school of the arts to those who opposed it to the deans and the university eagle we have a setting that the couple though it's a gutted over the role of it a terrible idea the question as to what it was from from our membership <unk> only monitors which have considered themselves to prosper are trying to kind of the

villagers senate which i think that's what was being challenged do you think we can learn anything from that challenge that can be applied to today's political artistic educational climate north carolina and other states pretty much all of them have a hopeful group on a new version and if you're talking about art appreciation that smartphone believe you're talking about training voters or the performing are you pleased with how the school of the arts has evolved what it's doing today to approve it in november the requirement of no return homeowners whose father was the record that you have

one or two courses were designated in the soil and into a moment in which was recorded no phone call and therefore we were going to do everything that is required in the curriculum and mother have been a lot learned and you're listening to the lynda bell and show on ninety one point five w and c with john we're coming just about to the end of our conversation here and i just want to ask you one final question when you look ahead what is your sense about the arts in north carolina the artist performer

we have been reporting we are they shake the money and punish the privilege of equipment being an artist that would virtually unlimited if you're looking for a gradual that's really right now become more of a while johnny lee i wanna thank you for joining us today and they're sharing a little bit of the history of the north carolina school of the arts and and your viewpoint about public funding i i was really surprised to discover that about you that you were an ardent public arts funding advocate so i'm it's you're always full of

surprises though thank you service i want a check in now with ben jones the son of a railroad family from tar bro north carolina he graduated from unc chapel hill went on to become an actor on stage in television with a long running series the dukes of hazzard and in film including smoky in the band and being a longs traveling all stars and motor kings eventually ben jones made his way to atlanta and a career in politics he was elected to congress in nineteen eighty eight reelected in nineteen ninety he lost to newt gingrich during the redistricting in nineteen ninety two ben jones was on president clinton's shortlist to head the national endowment for the arts he joins us from his home in washington dc where he's currently writing his autobiography and a novel i banned thanks for joining us well we just talked with

johnny lee who said that it's too complicated when when you bring the public funding into the arts you'd been on both sides of the issue with the arts where do you stand on public funding well i very much supported and i have to disagree with jon on that one i think that quite the opposite is true the national endowment for the arts has been one of the great fixate stories of the last thirty years for a very a relatively small amount of money about sixty cents a year for each american about the cost of the wing one b two bomber are we have fallen really stimulated the arts and the economy throughout the united states in a way that's unprecedented there's been a recent controversy and there's been recent institutionalizing organize opposition to the endowment but that's been very recent and it's coming from folks who were going to use a sort of thing for fundraising but the endowment that a successive there

are hundred thousand or so nea grants in the last thirty years and there are handful have been controversial and money to individual artists becomes a problem because they're often you feel like there are strings attached there are problems with that for example you may have to sign an obscenity claus and a year an oath and you have to sign a religious oath and and i believe there's inherent censorship in that song and that that becomes a problem how i know what's obscene air or religious attack to one person but not to another and naked body on a stage for a dancer can be deemed obscene by one person and an arm of an old thing of beauty to another is it causes the problem they've kind of little our promise in writing or things that were greeted politically to keep the nea allies says he did not sign it if he doesn't sign it or citizen science and i don't know what is only duty of promoting disseminating

sponsoring a producing materials are performances that depict or described and a patently offensive way sexual or excretory activities or organ it's promoting disseminating sponsoring are producing materials are performances were to denigrate the objects or beliefs of the appearance of a particular religion so boy that pretty much covers it right there you know i don't mind you know oddly i think that should be changed i don't think there should be any shirt show you no stipulations like that i think that was jesse helms grandstanding yes and bob you know i think that should be turned around auden utterly artistic community should get together and turn around individually affiliate in order to get a project that would think i don't see an artisan goat carcass is it naive to think an artist can turn around this has nothing to do on the arts now no no absolutely not because and that's just a matter of a love of good art grassroots political work as i said before they're a lot

more people who have been affected in a positive way by the arts and by the arts endowment then there are the emergency loans is in this world is anything you at it i just i just find that difficult because i'm an artist really believe that that this has nothing to do with the arts anymore this whole argument of the nea political funding of religious freedom and all those kinds of things are i don't think it has a thing to do with the arts i think that some international eye u n n n other voices like that come to represent the arts community just confusing to the so called religious right exactly what they won a year they finally got him to give up there were destroyed in doubt so you're asking your saying to fight i mean you know if you're just a demagogic moss back it up operations a bunch of ul haq's are going around trying to stir people up to appeal to the worst in people the artists are

represented that which is really the best in america in idaho please everybody all the time that's not the idea i would rather have my money spent by helping young artists or young dance group with theater groups get started bought and do those things which reflects the beauty and the first is our society and expanded off or op you know a b two bomber that doesn't fly and dirt is outdated and we have no business deals well so were not that we don't need a stronger national defense that's something i've supported but by b two bombers don't make a stronger an arts endowment and we're talking with ben jones from washington dc hand will be talking with critics in the toolkit is their best picks of ninety five and their disappointments and then look to the future ben jones thank you so much for talking with us thank you bye bye

this is the lynda bell and so i'm in the balance and this is ninety one point five w unc welcome back to the lynda

bell and show i'm linda balance let's check in now with the critics for their picks of nineteen ninety five with a really special critic well ironically work on the critically a special person joining us now on the line from kansas city gary shivers hi gary i mean it's so good to hear your voice again gary shivers for those of you who may not know was the program director here at w and c then general manager but what we must know gary for is he has incredible jazz show from nineteen seventy five to nineteen ninety and the radio station where we learned everything we needed to know about jazz from your shows they were the most instructive yet entertaining and so that i can remember that you know what i'll vote for a vote hurdle that experience when gary were checking in to day with critics to find out what was your favorite thing in jazz this year what moved you the most oh there are so many favorite things of all of this year how many of my

my idol are being represented especially in area no re issues cd reissue is i think it's important that all the major american record companies and catalogued their historical cattle it had been taken over by german bmg and german poet and british emi and japanese sony and those people care more about our artists in our music and we do that now the lawyers and accountants who were who were producing records in the united states so now we have complete sets of everything or what's recorded for rca and columbia and the massive reissue of the pablo casals and certain and glenn gould everything glenn gould ever recorded has been reissued on sony and everything else on tv it's a wonderful year for the record it was you see right it says the clean cr will buy only at my own here in this

year all my dreams have come true pedigree what they want because one can't go on without great what about other of my heroes is the pianist with our bourbon and i've lost track of the editor of them in ten years i was in amsterdam in february and there he was playing in orchestras title of the concert next month i got to go to those sessions in new york for carol songs monumental they will vote woods and i got to hang with the wolves and then do the liner notes for the album the great thrill i'm disappointed with everyone knew in chairs everything knew that passes perchance the world we didn't know anybody lived here so yeah i would say that

the greatest living artist who remain though woodson copper wire and duke ellington who remains a living because every year there are just tons of new ellington recordings we have never heard before the very first record that you played jazz solo and unc radio was dylan's it was actually with the very first records played on the air at part of the python programming april in the thick of it when a movement and beyond with costa rica orchestra and that's been reissued this year under the records reissued are still throwing my birthday present to myself with the complete columbia recordings of sinatra and i'm told see the gorgeous park and i got a couple of christmas present to complete to reprise recordings of pointing at these gorgeous other case

with fifteen tracks that have never been published at all and seventy five that had never been at the narrative always more to hear it's what's gary i know to be a lot more hear from you and we would love to that we need to move on to our next pick of the year if it is such a pleasure to hear you thank you for remembering i will thanks carry with me on the line now from new york is film critic for spectator magazine and other new york based publications godfrey cheshire i got fried thanks for joining us we were always your favorite film this year but your film was a film called safe by todd haynes an american independent director film's star julianne moore and i thought it was over all of the best american films i've seen in a decade at least will we see beauty think it played their important way played they're fairly briefly about our role and what was your most disappointing feel welcome

he pointed to a point of more widely acclaimed r i o i was disappointed in the overall drift of hollywood movies this year there there were not those few outstanding things that usually breakthrough on the pulp fiction short forest guards or whatever that usually makes for a memorable year and we're looking forward to what will i think the next thing that outcome of coming that is really going to get a lot of attention is the film sense and sensibility which was adapted from the jane austen novel are by emma thompson and start her and was directed by the chinese american river on we arm it hurt the film is being rumored to be the big oscar favorite for next year already and thought it would be the first time ive emma thompson is nominated for both the writer and actress no woman has ever been nominated for those two in the same year that's really exciting i had no idea doing screenplays ah this is the first one that you've gotten

it's quite a coat and she's also being i give a lot of credit for choosing angelique who would not necessarily be seen to be a likely choice not to do that the american and chinese rather than british but everyone is saying that he's up pulled it off with an amazing skills will godfrey thanks for your picks and thanks so much for joining us from new york today to talk to you later bye we talk about rock n roll now with a music critic from the news and observer david mentone hi david thanks for joining us today well so david what one really rocks etc in what really artery wall that was a really really good years out for record by local bands when the triangle of the trial will have quite the acclaimed fame and no other band really came through like the legal drama the good of the world of the purse but my favorite of the bunch with a big old with deep about an element called faith with street they play for the country rock music which is

a format in the alternative rock universe right now with a band like the jet parked and the uncle tupelo ironically enough below the dams have broken out and there's a bit of a void at the top of the format and i would be at all surprised that with the county wound up feeling it the record is really a good at anything i've heard all year from anywhere in the country and i think it's going to make a pretty big black you look down on a small local independent label slow work with india next going to say much well today another close relative in the beautiful of a million records like you didn't know what they do you might well be reading about him play in rolling stone magazine back here helping whatever that were wearing them on commercial radio and you heard your first book and your biggest disappointment i believe that the

planet would be natalie merchant fellow album called tiger lily girl band and other media if you could be one of my favorite a ten years ago you know after a few really great record the only started around the game and got leavenworth interesting and then when i finally broke up two years ago it made a lot of that because they might arrive with a band of holding her back then fighter record i would say that she was the one holding everyone else back because this is one of the most boring record i've heard all year the single carnival which you know we are in a pretty good rating of just music we've got we'd all and they're just very very uninteresting that's very tuneful lot of good intentions to me not for nothing with another maniac none of the public television rights all thought of all you so far well david thanks for your picks for the year and good talking to you and i

this is the lynda bell and show i'm linda balance and this is ninety one point five w unc with us on the line now is stephen jaffe composer and musician and chairman of the department of music at duke university hello stephen i'm good and and i wondered if you could tell us what really struck you this year in classical music oh locally and i was really struck by the art songs for youth concert at duke university i thought this was a tremendous event artistically it was very special and bob if they give people a chance to contribute into my outwards toward hope for people with aids on another piece which did that in the same light was bill t jones pete still here which was done for the american day and festival and that also had wonderful music by allen film composer canada for the aisle and can use the voice

of or dead at the foot of folks enter and that piece and i felt that was very effective what we disappointed in this year i was now putin being disingenuous but i was disappointed in the direction of the eu and plays classical and jazz programming i'm feeling that a lot of the substance has gone out of it for people who were real interested i wanna i look forward in the new year to do unc really becoming a leader again in that and i have every confidence that it's going to do that is there anything else you'd afford to a ninety six i'm looking to more room for two more music by patrick rhone of up with a wonderful bulgarian native composer who lives in the tri most come to

duke university and wrote a wonderful string quartet this year for the lark quartet through the auspices of the rollie chamber music killed and if we can hear more of her music i think will be all night why watt smile oh thank you so much so okay thank you linda tuck too again ok bye on the line with us now is richard levy he's professor of violin at unc and co artistic director of the ensemble koran richard thanks for joining us and that what we do well you moved by this year i can't i'm continually move but the progress of the original instrument movement no performance and there are a couple of cd that i think rick represented a fantastic advance of the film bieber violin sonata by a group called roman baca that make baroque by lynn found an idiomatic and strong and technically perfect fit any russian traveling by the greatest violinist of the day

that's one thing and if i can play one other gets a wonderful quartet called the court or more hit and that perdue and you can even go in north korea in ben hanlin quickly and yet without a nun of the overblown quality but one one can get from modern quick and what we most disappointed in this year well that's of course a little harder i've been very moved by the progress of the north carolina symphony and i think they got a wonderful new players and for the most part i admire so many of those young strong players that road and i was disappointed by the lack of preparation in the violin concerto of problems for the orchestra pit at that terrific so if the midterms billy cruz announced today the performance with the vote that

with the report and really what do you do you sort of more looking forward to michael romano performance here and mark i think it's great that come up from my students and for the community that they are playing and are hearing and i'm looking forward to the continuation of the newman here in the new chamber into hillary title here of our music department that combines really interesting group where sometimes local faculty performing family together and then if you're referring to take off as well we really appreciate your joining us today and i will look for to some of those and i look forward to the north carolina symphony similar thanks richard libby for joining us by rabbi on the

line with me now right here in chapel hill as tj anderson he's a composer with an absolutely audacious modern style both personally and artistically it did under now you're going to like thanks for joining us and tj what we were excited about this year hi to permit that very unusual to have two and one year but i had lived with fortune working with two phenomenal thing out for the one with the need to getting one the thing i'm a mean a free on hulu commit my phantom camera phones with the moment came a player and the other with a peak fed did for the quake cover the aids quilt and that with their musical patiently for done the more of me and what about other composers the other composer no aunt minnie but clearly one that comes to mind in the premier michael pitt that roach lake by the bottom have to be michael the minute all the premier maitre fourth and new or hand do we hear that i'm like that will be on on tv and then in the near future good and well we

i'm disappointed with the world respond to problems i think we cannot be optimistic and this week we come to grips with what probably within the friday we do have the technical means that no i am the money for faulty but until we get rid of selfishness and self indulgent women always make a promise scenes music scene but it translates to an offense of of half tall communication of the whirl condition in other words the composer document the culture so we have to feel what what what we see and i think that if the composer and all artists do that and tj you've composed a piece for choreographer bill t jones do think we'll see it will see that work from him where we're struggling to get the money the work up in and then performed and then thirdly we will fit on joel fifth of the debates well we'll be looking forward to your music and to other composers and thanks for giving us your picks for the year and and how you feel about what's happening

all one two dj thank you or this on the line now from the rolling is an observer he's checked forty the art and architecture critic i chat good to hear you and what is your pick for the year well i'd had a family a favorite of the year with the john bigger retrospective at the north carolina museum of art the young major retrospective by a major american art of tripoli a leading african american artist one whose work that they speak to everybody in terms of social comparison spiritual transcendent very true in reporting on a highly recommend it and what is your most disappointing event of the year and well i bought it in the overall law or lack of

public support for art and critical and here in north carolina to the un general assembly killing the highly admired artwork for the building program a model for the country and of the brouhaha over the one would think our role wafers work in public art became really on that very issue in the mayoral election here and to date i think there are really a pupil pupil people warm up to that point and what you looking forward to well this year they look forward to me a project in north carolina museum of art that ingredient collaboration then the exchange would be real it will be featuring art

historical contemporary art and crab from israel and i think it will be a boom for the faith in that that will read the profile colombian national party well those are some good picks and i are really good observation glad you brought up the public funding issue we've been talking about that today on the show and our maybe we can check in with you again sometime during the year to see what you think retrospective really about some of these things i would be no thanks jack find out with me in the studio is john valentine is co owner of the regulator book shop in durham john what we're favorite picks this year either to grab my two favorites were douglas copeland's micro service and alice hoffman's practical magic is coppola's can like the generation x spokesman and he went out to write a story on microsoft for wired magazine ended up reading a whole book with fictional characters and it was just a lot of fun

like all dialogue and interactions all this inside stuff about techies and candy at apple and they have to be yet a technophile computer literate person the law that you know you just have to have experienced the early you know the joy of being really into something it's a real generational thing your real view of what that generation is into an island and one of the other book miles hoffman is a fantastic writer her or her characters are always really strong and and magical and the women are very special and what i liked about this were there was it was two pairs of sisters and i just like all else coffins books a fantastical things happen and other sisters do with bankston life love and death and the it's it was really engaging i thought of my own family and larger family and basically pressed it on everybody i knew her sisters laura or

mothers it was great what was your biggest disappointment is here in reading we work in a bookstore you see a lot of books coming and so i went i was like carl hiaasen has been a great writer for a he's a reporter for the miami herald and his latest book came out it was set in her during a hurricane in miami and i thought was this can be really be a wild and interesting but it had a dark edge to it that didn't work and what he's looking forward to reading every day it's christmas work in a bookstore open the boxes so i always look forward to new new fiction and that it doesn't really matter who it is using all take it home and record hairdresser chapter and so you know it's still a martian or anne tyler our own updike or pagan kennedy someone says something come out ali reading i try not anticipate or put too much pressure on these writers goes think of one good work every ten years i'm happy we're happy to do this today because they've been your lover talk about books thanks thanks

ok moving on to other kinds of music some people call it world music some people call a traditional organ include blues maybe talked to bob bergman former staff writer for the independent who recently moved to houston texas where he's writing for the houston press hi bob it's good to hear your voice again to your taxes today about music of all kinds of think yeah and what are you favorite takes a year well i was really impressed with her what the duke institute for the arts was doing political that your own earnings groups to the area that really would not otherwise have come i think in particular about the finnish folk rock band that was an incredible show over to brian turner and he has done a wonderful job of programming via traditional music serious over there i also really liked what the country was doing they were all over the

map and taking risks bringing robert earl keen in one night and then they have an old blues or something else another night and i really think that frank is appealing to everyone lines right on the grill owner where the risk of a whole or other than rock n roll and he's filling it and san diego's disappointed first off the durham still doesn't have a live music venue all these closed and it was only a weekend painter in the first place and that is really nothing and yet there's a lot of people out there that would support one i hope somebody comes up with some idea to get loud music that annabelle city i was also disappointed that the blues festival was not as well and if it needed to be a part of that would fit walnut creek continues to every year due this folk blues festival thing which i think is really sucking the life out of their rooms own regional festival in or not able to

distinguish the difference between them and in fact they are walnut creek move their gate even closer to the bull durham was first of all i hope that stopped and people figure out that one of them is homegrown and one of them is an important cause i'm really looking forward to a nineteen ninety six well i think i'm really looking forward to you know festival maintaining its commitment to the music of north carolina as well as at a park and i know everyone by now knows that margaret nygaard passed away and you have a beautiful moving tribute to her or any independent look like if he was an important person to me and a lot of other people the community we'll look at her legacy with another great you know festival alive on planet to come back and be part of a long term effect i look forward to that well bart good luck in houston as it might be there yet not yet really well it's so good to talk to you bob talk to you and

now in a tough tv column rogers the spectator theater critic has been for six years is also a freelance cartoonist i calm nice to talk to you day so what could you live without this year in theater i would the yacht at cape fear that people out in the department and got an order your double album project was a lot of fun in our poll humanoid puppet he'll let it run a little bit important and the repertory company says and there was that and what we decide

girls girls but like david and at that point it kind of a backhanded compliment to a copy of the record that i go quite that were likely much or an income what you looking forward to a nineteen ninety six book the art of the plane maker arcadia part of the big bopper a man bites dog and then to be doing a good thing and go from him to do art and i have not read it it's well excellent choices s arcadia new york it's a wonderful plan are much more than one

well cullen thank you so much for your picks talk to you again soon it's my kicks in this year where mary cochran and paul taylor was esplanade it's taylor signature piece one has been danced so frequently the american dance festival and i think half the audience could get up and join in the car greg is so glorious a performer that she breathes spectacular life into the walking skipping and running i think the company to keep our eye on locally as the carolina ballet theater this young group has a vision a sense of purpose and to know how to achieve the professional status that it wants my favorite local dancer is tapper is anne's mclaughlin he's all loose and rhythmic and charismatic he's really want to keep your eye on i think what i was most disappointed in this year was susan marshals company

atf i was expecting more but that was generally shallow when the dancers were ready but more than that i'm pretty disappointed in modern dance generally it seems to be at a low point in searching for direction and identity basketball on the other hand excites me it's the most wonderful combination of speed in improvisation and honesty and it lacks a certain self consciousness i think dan's can learn something from it what i'm looking forward to is a concert of men dancing at meredith college next month that's with ken tosti jack arnold in other solo performers i'm also looking forward to the return of the daredevil is it the strad duke to and carlson and david rousseff at north carolina state the boy i can't wait for merce cunningham to come back to atf this summer his company will perform things that wealth choreography the kind that he's been creating for thirty or forty years and at seventy something he still are on guard thanks for tuning in to day when i think my guest john healey and ben jones and thanks to the critics for sticking their necks out once

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