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it'sbeenthe political system and i think aboutsomething senator what makes you think that you would be theradio american legal for purity and politics matter what you doi don't think i would be a great american theater what if i did playssome small role it would help out in their area senator well do youfeel that you're all have been small yes or if there'sno solutions now and whati'm just a massive importanceof my activity center or just explained how small you areoverhead bin and whatif my actions and anyway would cause a deterrent to
ashes of this type of believe it in a small way it would have to beand do you encourage the participation of young peoplein a similar rosen says uber phone with respectto our election campaigns in the united statesand therefore there for you you're tellingmethat is incorrectorhe canwhat she a lifelong resident nasser she's outwith loesser that chino areai don't i never saw i would know the answer this year is thehumanitarian yes yes you did and what
they don't believe that she had known him in south carolina politicsand you know you talk toher not today siri think we've covered pretty much as what we call the conversation centeredwell you know i've been married to was yes or lessability was a white house counselpalestinians anadvantage you need the entire meeting with americanholocaust an accountant andwhat particular just that the
gay did you resent her and hiring hereand altering or seventy five dollars a month in theembattled president nixon's reelection when heorders if she had anytime yasser and you know whether or not itwould be made by anyone else who work in their notions oflending her income up seventy five dollars a month all about noses at the bottom ofthat idea what about this as thehandful of what do i tell her away a justification for hiring areprobably the same things and thenhow long he worked in jackson campaign a few monthsand that you have been basically doesn't want that is correct
what you think that is correcthey julieyou have to be an easy as anindividual doesn't have you done anything torestore the city's new pontiac <unk> political campaigni know that last senator but you feelthat you've really doneafter i dothe right thing not the right thingto dothank youthe congressman kramer the last nineteen seventy
elections because of democratic dirty tricks you think thelast election because of a best within the republican party in floridawe're the truth tellersi think there weremany democratic voters was in the areanotreligious leadersi believe that the split between republicanpolitics her nineteen seventy was a driving factor also believe that the dirty trickswas a contributing factor to this playthrough a question while you were doing these
things which you've testified today you enjoydoing some elementin an online humoristwould be improper mean it's just been that the reason for doing these things that you enjoydoing them rather than the notion to hiremore of that would really important part of that notioni still failed tofind any reason based in nineteen seventy one and your actions onthe facts at us at that time to go in and have that are justificationand verifyi think i know republicans offlorida fairly well i'm uncertain the center that sitswith me on this committee
usually doesn't subscribe to what you throw out are insuringpeople are known for a wooden you know sent backthe chairman of the committee the othersenate business is required immediately and other committees today i haven't had achance all of the testimony and that's what has a long memoryproceedings are trying to pick up to speed on what your international run the risk ofrepetition how horrible whatwell thank youyou know the committee will
stand in the system andthat the committee recess for a longweekend to pick up its dirty tricks investigation again on tuesday perspectiveon dirty tricks is always difficult to come by politically in terms of how much effect they haveon the outcome of any given election what the uk discussed that with jews would go over thewashington post that the session was over the second then would go over covers politics for thepost and is the author of several books on various political campaigns and candidatesincluding one each on richard nixon and spiro agnew <unk>testimony both yesterday and today the committee seem to be trying to find out whether these dirtytricks or a moderate getting votes for a certain opposition candidate or withdisrupting the campaigns of various democrats and you've been listening to the watergate committeetravel around with candidates a lot of americans well so to saywith the dirty tricks haven't got anybody votes the
soldiers lost a ton of their main function i think has been to tocreate dissension in the opposition camp that certain andthen the i wouldn't think that that deception may be a new hampshireprimary lecture any primary was affected in a critical waymost of what we heard him to be directed at senator it must beyou have no house cinemas has reacted to the various the revolutionwell he's certainly feels that talk to fairly recently thathe believes for instance that the canuck letter word in which roomhe was accused of making a of the slogans that of french canadian americans andnew hampshire with us with important factor in one hand his campaign afternot critically that that letter that was not the contentscontents of the letter with the lead a good leaning into tomake that emotional display in new hampshire which many people said
which was very quietly says he insists bill that you never tocry but whenever they didn't want didn't think he admits that theimpact of that of that episode on the press on the way he was perceived bythe press and treated by the press on his own campaign morale within his own campaign wasvery very destructive so in a particular case but we feel very strongly thatthis campaign with just a candidate himself butit's very relevant stafford's the image the press as evidence that a lotof the window when we close with the impact of anything on a campaigngo with that a platoon of a week we do tend to think of it in terms ofvotes of the campaigns in the mix of of candidates appearancescandidate psychology really thinks about so what's going on the campaign how the presspursues him very often with a person's perception is that correct or not that a factor animportant factor in the campaign because the perception and reality are things that
get mixed up in a campaign and what the viewer at home watching on television or the reader of thenewspaper susan campaign is really perception areporter trying to make a reality as much as he can the very often it's not thatin and testimony in this dirty tricks at for the last day or two there's beenattacked again by the committee to try to tie these activities ever feel very strongly the white houseor do it cheaper than others and you have sort of a definitive book in nineteen sixty eight and thenixon candidates it was an escalation of the us in nineteen seventy two over nineteensixty eight but the book though what this escalation woes peters that themost of the resources were greater and the determination to leave no stoneunturned with greater and so that was an overkill and use of money news of peoplein funny things to do and i think that thoseexcesses were with them straighten things like kilowatt pincher family jewels
quickly put under eddie henderson and new biographer and assessthe new situation in terms of watergate when a segment on the the watergatehearings and what is a prisonshe had a beautiful wooded area so going downhill a waymost banana can expose of elements were already taken up by the committeeopposed to the administration it puts the presidentand still a crisis of leadership here have not been able tostart with his own attorney general is open and we saw this on to the vice president that the commission will hearevery week i think he'sstill fighting back against the war but he's doing what he feel so the onlything you can do on longtime surprising news the unis the chosen to orphans on at the press on the matter of
weeks and i think they're and blaming others instead of attacking theprices we're going to do i think that includes is that turkey needs friendsjewelsthis committee hearings of the subject of controversy says levitt says before they began inmy the newest debate revolves around whether or not what they're up to now isdollar exciting in showbiz terms relevant or a waste of time as far as new informationis concerned the uk has some thoughts about this current state of affairsand that's forty second day of hearings the watergate committee finds itself a unique anuncomfortable position for the first time today there was no live television coveragethe press tables were half phil and even the lineup of people waiting to get in was waysmaller than it's been among senators and so it's interesting to have been diminishedonly five senators were present when the hearing started twenty minutes late part of asurprise after they can be explained by the absence of star quality in today's two
witnesses rubber bands and douglas kelly but the committee faces a more fundamentalproblem the dirty tricks phase of the investigation just hasn't caught on andmaybe it's because last summer's hearings were a tough act to follow perhaps the public is tiringof watergate but many people believe that dirty tricks are a natural part of campaigningnatural regrettable and the nineteen seventy two really produced nothing newthis is the committee counsel tony lyons mayor says he may yet have a few surprises in the dirtytricks they use some of the republican minority but don't count on it they're for thefinal hour campaign financing phase this is the committee counsel david berson saysalbee interesting informative important but hardly sensational the committee'squandaries further complicated by another factor the possibility that the senate mayresearch from october twelfth twenty nine others would leave the committee with one of three ratherunpleasant alternatives it would have to cut the hearing sharp expand thembeyond the proposed november first deadline or keep working while other senators are reassessing
last summer that the committee's winter of discontent with the thirdstory joe biden will be back on tuesday when the committee'swinter of discontent or otherwise continues until then for peter kenyonimpact on jan morrow thank you and goodnight from washington you've been watchingdevil the devil videotape coverage of a hearing of the senate select committee on presidential campaignactivities this program was made possible by grants from the corporation for public broadcasting andthe ford foundation as the production of the vision of a greaterwashington educational telecommunications association theeuro new moonnamedit's
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Robert MacNeil and Jim Lehrer anchor gavel-to-gavel coverage of day 42 of the U.S. Senate Watergate hearings. In today's coverage, Martin Kelly and Robert Benz testify.
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