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it'sbeenit's niceso therewas an investigationimproper orengaged in by any person's acting individually or in combination with othersin the presidential election of nineteen seventy two campaign counters or otherrelated to ittoday's hearingshe's a senior correspondentthis may be one of the most extraordinary days in many
years of congressional investigations in the replay you're about to see the numbertwo man in the nixon reelection campaign jeb stuart regaled her nights andapparently complete confession he took part in planning the watergate burglary andsystematically lied about it for fear the truth would affect mr nixon's reelectionchances he also firmly implicates a host of other campaign or white houseofficials in the watergate operation or the cover up including former attorney general johnmitchell for months we have been reading bits of evidence charges allegationsrumors tonight one of those central to the whole watergate scandal lays it outin a way so damning manypeople regarding his accusations are probably two reasons magruderdecided to talk first as he explains the cover story was rapidly losingcredibility and second he was offered a deal by the prosecution in return fortelling all he knew about the situation that you'll only be hit with one charge thereby greatly
reducing is jeopardy or didn't like to talk about this type of deal thatresult in testimony of this kind is john kramer of the georgetown universitylaw center it was that marriage with us today how commonis this kind of deal the deal to plead guilty to one count of an indictment isabout a common man or wherever white collar crimes concern and it's probably the only way you can evermake a case as you can see here somebody has to break somebody has to tell the truth in this case andmany many others as you'll see later this evening of course the deal as if i got a deallike a contractor july sun isn't really buying as a matter of fact cannot technicallyeven be mentioned in the koran although in fact partly mr ritter has agreed to plead guiltyto one felony count of conspiracy to obstruct justice in from that goes into court to make thatpleased the judge last week whether he's been promised anything or any kind of deal was bin laden'sdriver will say no that's the only way the guilty plea will be acceptance of the billing charade in courtwhen it goes on of course was also testified andre limited use of
news about nothing and if that is in fact the deal fell through nothing that he says today in these hearingscould ever be used against him in the record he would have to be convicted out of the mouths of otherpeople like most astronomers to be about autism okay thank you will be backat the end of tonight's prom asked to discuss this these and otherissues also the conclusion of a live broadcast the uk will have an interview with committee chiefcounsel siam batch about the future course the watergate hearings when they resume nextweek like a committee seems almost as curious about the question ofmotivation as it does about the break in and the cover up themselves really so there was aclimate created in the white house and at the reelection committee that permitteddiscussion no such plans a climate caused by the reaction of those who oppose the nixonadministration by breaking the law in many ways they were in a report for military duty orpublicly burning draft cards so people are very close to breaking a lawor any other persons
you really believe as the president was correctto say it's ok and let me just set when twentysixteen and we hadto use these activitiesthat was anincorrect decisionthere wasa legal basis today's testimony contains so muchnew and crucial evidence that it's difficult to break into parts but we'll try and hereis our usual hour by hour viewing guy and the first are jeb magruder
says he believes the president did not know of the bugging plans adding some of us fail andhe also details how the intelligence plans evolved meetings with john mitchell johndean and gordon liddy and the second the hotel admits that he knew thatunintentionally and under questioning that he had no dealings withthe president either before or after the quake hit in a third armored who says thathe learned from john dean it would not be indicted in august the watergate grand juryuses enough information from justice department sourcesthis yearand the fourth hour tonightmcgruder tells the senators i developed the cover there was no opposition for keeping the truthseeker and a more tough questioning from senator evan mcgregor says promises ofjobs in executive clemency for the watergate seven were aimed at keeping people from talkingin the final hour tonight mcgregor testifies that john dean prepped him before his
grand jury appearance in august and when he finally told john mitchell he was going to tell theprosecutors the whole story he says that mitchell's said he could not go along with thattoday's developments senatorsare you going to dowhich popeand in the endhe was tryingto recruit he's not right
for youandnowso that's reallysort of sections of six thousand and twoand sixty six thousand jobs at the united stateshughes well the evidencewhich usually you made it all presidentialcampaign activities help me the truth the whole truth andnothing but the lawyes yesyou were
justin dci'm insaneyes i let the pelican research services and i'm a product and soit soonthat decision by the committeeand part of thattime to do all the position of the white but yes i'm a special assistant to thepresident and deputy director for communications at the executive branch when didyou have that position over what period of time from octobernineteen sixty nine nineteen seventy one and atthat time to win over the campaign activities for the reelection of president yes
that's her unusual circumstances which led him to take onthe responsibilities of the campaign we had barelybegun discussing the nineteen seventy two campaign in early nineteenseventy one mr mitchell and astronomy and critically we'reconcerned there and responsible for the campaign at that early stageand it was decided that certain white house staff members anotherindividuals would work for the campaign it was agreed that itwould not be a gun at the white house of what would be done outside and consequentlyan inmate nineteen seventy one myself and a number of othersbegan the activities for the committee to re elect the presidentoh security made a decision that you were goingto be and i would consider a joint decision between mr
haldeman and mr mitchellbasically i was responsible for planningadministrative activitiesrelating to what i'm i consider the inside activities in the camp atadvertising and direct mail telephone press and publicrelations so the program the insideactivity when there wasn't more organizingcommittee that election president politically moderate all that positionyes that's correct i call him my nineteenseventy two and mr mitchell became campaign director i was named chief of staffand in july of nineteen seventy two a mr mcgregor became campaign directorbecame deputy campaign director mr mcgrew from the time you wentover for the campaign you tell us what was the middle and roll was and what
was really well thought the beginning mr mitchell wasresponsible for the campaign and i reportedthat wouldn't be an item may of nineteen seventy one he was responsiblefor the campaign i reported directly to him mr altmanwas basically it is on and use of these activities were primarily arelated to him through mr gordon strada white housemr mitchellwell positioned mrjones seventeen he knew hisown staff assistant at the white house and business problems at and liaisonto our committee and the committeeto reelect president at the white house and that was the level
that he played a very direct role with all the members of the staff protectingmyself and other senior members here consolidateour work for mr haldeman for whatever needs thatthe president needed the information from the campaign committee hereceived a copy of the raw documents and work very closely withus would be truly integrated assigned to directyou're going to marryyes that's correctyes we did thatin decemberwe wereat the
beginning i did organize the committee for the reelection ofthe president began in late nineteen seventy one and i remained there arecampaign unfortunately we made some mistakes in the campaign which have led to amajor national concern for those for thoseareas and judgment that i maybe i take full responsibility and imet paul and to a man and i'm willing to face the consequences of my own actsthese mistakes were made by only a few participants in the campaignthousand persons assisted in the campaign to re elect president and they did nothing illegalor unethical as far as i know at no point during this entireperiod from the time when the watergate of time trying to keep it from thepublic view of the president have any knowledge of our errors in this matterand i must confess in some of those failedi regret that i must have a name others who participated with me in the watergate affair
this is not true any desire to implicate others but simply to give you the factthat my recollection i guess thequestion that i was whenthat happened out of this year and he joined us that in december ofnineteen seventy one at that point in time we haddinner meeting the assistance of legal counsel in many areas primarilyin filing for the twenty three primary campaigns of president was going to enter and relatingto the new election law before this time we had been using basicallyjohn green and his legal staff to assist us and john was lookingfor an attorney looking for an attorneyto assist us we had gone through a number of namesin december john indicated to me john been indicated to me that he had found an attorney who was
acceptable to the then attorney generalgordon liddy to my office on a friday early in december hediscussed with me his legal ability is a major general counsels activities andhe also indicated that he would even individual to engage inintelligence gathering operations at a considerable background in this areatrevino nyack and mr mitchell i discuss the intelligence gatheringsituation previously and mr bean brought mr liddy over for both thosepurposes probably a week later a week there i think decemberthirteenth exactly on a monday he joined our staff general counselwith regard to these intelligence operations for the lead nowit isin september of nineteen seventy
one we had a luncheon meeting of john being called and asked me to join infact hospital for lunch at that time they hadenvisioned at a private investigating from being formed by mrcaulfield they called the project sand wedge andthe idea would be mr crocker would leave the white house one that a private investigationfirm and his firm will be available and for the committee to reelect presidentin november of nineteen seventy one it was indicated to me that the projectthat was not going to get off the groundand consequently m g gordon liddy i came into the picture after thatmr levy well you know where isthe white house no i wasnot we're well certainly with others have a breakdown ofthe psychiatrist's office you know i was not find the route
most of these position of the committee and mr mitchelli wasn't anything that doesn't really tell you about an intelligenceoperation that he was once a riot going on the next weekthe week he began work for us we met on a tuesday and discussed basically the new electionlaw that time he indicated to me that day you disgustingintelligent plan with members of the white house staff he mentioned criticallymr dean did mention other individuals but i cannot recall or namesare indicated that he had been told you have only a million dollarbudget i indicated in at that time and a million dollar budget was thereso sizeable budget and that he should prepare the background documentsnecessary to justify this budget and if they're he would then have an opportunityto present the budget to the attorney general now they're going to come a time when we
really they presented his plan so the attorney general mr mitchell yes infebruary and i set up an appointment with mr mitchell andjohn being on february twenty seven foot four o'clock in the afternoon onfebruary at the first meeting was february twenty sevenspecial election and say to the januarytwenty seven nineteen seventy one and we had a meeting mrmitchell's office at four o'clock in the afternoon is our car now who attended that meetingmr mitchell mr dean mr liddy andmyself had the meeting on januarytwenty seven did you know any of the details of the plan that wasno i mean thatyou describe in detail what are
mr libya brought with him out a series of chartsthey were professionally done charts and hadcolor are some color on each of the charts as our caller approximate sixcharts each charter contains subject matter and was headed by acode word i cannot recall many of the code words what i do recall isthere are gemstones i think one was called target but i cannotspecifically recall the other code word each child had down listing ofcertain types of activities with a budget and as i recall it was one track thattotaled up the activities and the budget total to the million dollar figure there he hadmentioned previously it was presenting this to the woman show and tell operationyes that's correctyes
you say toyou it issome of these projects were and that was of course theprojects including the wiretap happy electronic surveillance andphotography there were projects relating to theabduction of individuals protecting members of radical groups that we were concerned about the convention insan diego must really at a time where the leaders would be abducted anddetained in places like mexico and that they would goand the return of his country at the end of the conventionyet another plan which would'veused women as agents to work with members of thedemocratic national committee and at their convention and here inwashington and then hopefully on to their efforts they would obtain information from them
use of these women is that this involvinginvasion remaining got miami andhaving ethan set up for sound photographsi could onlyestimatei think you couldispecifically recall at
this meeting at nine million dollars aproximate thirty minutes aswell does the level of reaction was thati think all three of us were a pillscope and size of the project was something at least in my mind was not envisionedi don't think it was a mr mitchell minder mr deans i can't commentand their state of mind at that time mr michel in an understated waywhich is with his method of dealing with difficult problems like this are indicated thatthis was not an acceptable option i'm lianehansen maybe he should go back to the drawingboards and to come up with a more realistic plan so be true tothat meeting without being an
intelligence operation i would say he was discouraged but he was given the right tocome up with a more reasonable planif you have a disability yes he met withjohn in an eye on our way back to the committee and indicate it is it meansthere because he had assumed that everyone would have accepted this project atface value we had indicated that there are certainly signs wereinappropriate and that he would have to redo them and come back at a labor dayyou make any report at thatyes i mean reporters despite the white house now youtry it that meeting whethermr liddy had to have these charts according to thefbi lab and size to hand out if he had i would have said thoseover mr straub i do remember discussing it i don't recall ms me whether we have
there working papers and i'm so i can't recall specifically ithink i just going on the phone discuss the general nature of his proposalwas that was this conversation is strongly rooted reportthe general nature of the discussion consistent with your general reporting has astrong incentive to give the white house thateverything that i did at the committee everything that we did it was deaf to mrsjohnson a legal or other officials of the white house's fortoday's indeedyes the following week in february february fourth of ourcolumn at eleven am in the morning and aboutto discuss a reduced proposali learned their mr dean and we set up an appointment with mr mitchell and we
reviewed itwell yeswe're we met in his genitals office he did not have chances time butrather have it mr liddy not at charity have beenreduced on a half i love in the cages and the scope and of coursebut it was reduced considerably was reduced to five hundred thousand dell let this time what willi cannot recall specifically what was in heroutside i do know that the discussion mainly at the after his discussion withisis related only to be a wiretapping and photography andnot to any of the other projectsbasically he has gottenmr mitchell mr dana
mastro libyan myself mr dean came in approximately fifteen so minutes late but was there formost of the media pakistani statewe werespecifically mention at thatmeeting know we did discuss potential targets we discuss thepotential target of that democratic national committee headquarters primarily because of information we haverelating to mr o'brien that we thought would be possibly damaging to thedemocratic national committee we discussed the possibility of using theelectronic surveillance to be a foul mood hotel which was going to be the democraticnational committee headquarters and we discuss the potential of using thesame method at the presidential headquarters at thattime we did not over the candidate would be so low that was simply an indication that thatwould be a target of interest also at that meeting mr mitchell brought
out that he had information as our current i think with mr mitchell rightit was even estimate farmers to being that they had information relating to asenator muskie that was in mr greenspan's office in las vegas that hewas a publisher of the newspaper last place and there was no namei see eyes are called mr henry greenspan i think that spun greenspanor greenspan i think that is his name he's the publisher of the lasvegas newspaper and that mr libby was asked to workreview of the situation in las vegas to see if there would bepotential for an entry in an industry while the potential for anentry into mr greenspan's office you knowno i didn'tyes
we have had information from a reliable source saysthat three of the democratic national convention they have a businessexposition the business exposition was being not aput on by the year by a separate business exposition company it wasour understanding with the fee the business is concerned at thisbusiness company was then kickback or kickback tothe democratic national committee to assist them in a pan and other debts aside fromthat information well general information about the kind of informationthat you would be looking for in these break ins arei think at that time we were critically concerned about theitt situation and bistro ryan had been a very effective spokesmanken starr's position on the itt case and i think there was a generalconcern that if he was allowed to continue as democratic national
chairman that because he was certainly the most professional me from our standpoint they're most professionalpolitical ad operator of it that he could be very difficult forin the upcoming campaign so we hope that the information might todiscredit him and what was the middle of reaction tothis realization the second gene that's there was a disapproval aor let's say i should say ok we agree that it would not be approved at that timebut we would take it up later that he just didn't feel comfortable with it even atthat levelwell yes i think that's rightthis meeting to anyone abouti mean yes i sent me documents mr liddy given us of the meeting to mr strauband again was this year long
oh yes i automatically said alldocuments to mr scott and that those documentscontain all of what was presented it certainly all ofthe specific discussion they didn't they did not contain is an example of discussion ontargets because that was a discussion and that was not in the documents you havea conversation with god yes it would the general context ofiti cannot recall specifically that point but i would assume that i've probablydiscussed the key targets we discuss the melodydid you discuss the meeting with anybodyall right ican't recall discussing of animals wasthere any special labor committee for election president
michel roux was an adviser to mr mitchell he was a close friend of mr mitchell he had become aclose friend of mine who was there someone who worked with all of usyou know we all felt he had an astute political judgment and we workvery closely with mr rowan on literally all matters that concern the committeethey're thereyou're right yesi had requested certain things from mr liddy i think relating to his legal work asgeneral counsel and they have not been forthcoming and i met him ran into him in the third floorof our building astronaut wouldhe be more cooperation with him and producing the work that weneeded quickly he indicated some disturbance withme at that time i went upstairs and was somewhat educated and then
i ask them to come up stairs and discusses matter with me and at thattime mr russo at an important meeting and that time we agreed itwas true for libya would terminate from our committee completely at first andwhat whatwas being difficult to get the liquor and what little bit more specificlike i simply put my hand on this truly these children he asked me to removeattendance indicated that if i didn't get serious consequences thereare more specific plans you kill me but i want to makei want to make it clear that i did not i don't regard that i do notnow regard that as a specific threat recently mr libby's manners andi think he was indicating to me that he did not care for hisrelationship with a world where actually this particularthe new york times and on the
third floor of the reception area of the committeeyes yeswellwe agree that's really united he would tell a completely from the committee allactivities then we discuss the intelligence gatheringand he indicated that one point that possibly mr hunt could have becomeinvolved directly in this area or that we could seize any consideration ofactor at that time as i recall the sermon indicated it would be best if we retain mrlibby at least in that area but he was not there overly specific youjust thought it was best that we keep things cool and not to get too excited about the situationand there what we then agree to is determination from our committeegeneral counsel but retain and in the area of intelligence gathering about at thetime as i do mr liddy and
they're still no i thinkin june and again the soros sat in on many of our meetings and united have hadand are still very close friends and we discussed i'm sure in general attorneys mrlibby's proposal i could not recall a specific time sitting down and tellinghim exactly what mr libby's proposals werenot going to work at that time i think by the timei had been encouraged by certain staff members of the white house to be sure therestaurant was and i asked directly but employed by mrlilly and so i think i was aware that the white housemr howard richard hauer who's mr richard howard hughes mr colson saysandlester hunt had completed his assignments of the white house and the sense
of we were now engaged in the intelligence activitieshe thought i would find mr hundt very valuable i only met mr hartling so i wasnot really quite sure what terms he would be valuable so i think it is very hard to be shouldrefer mr hunt mr lilian that mr libby would employ name i did not know at the time thathe and his trilogy had worked together before howour decisionsyes apparentlymr libby after he left my office and went and saw mr dean and the message ireceived a call from mr dean encouraged me not to become i'm personallyconcerned about mr levine i didn't not like mike russell animosity and hehas to get in the way of this project and and then i went over to the whitehouse and was working with was just done on normal campaign matters and he brought up thesame subject and as we walk back to the committee it was a friday afternoon i
recall it was raining there he indicated that although we have the samepersonal difficulties with mr libby the problem is to libyans quiteprofessional and this intelligence gathering we should retain a minister in thesevery muchmr rocha talking about literally it and mentioned the number of times thatwe should keep tight control over him but that he was a very effective if youknow that any fortifications noequity february fourteenth meetingwas on the plan was not still approve thetime when anyone else in the white house do to get approvedyes one eveningand asked me you know in a sense to what we get off the aesthetic
and get the budget approved for mr libby's plans that we neededinformation critically on this for a crime he did not mention i wanna make clear or anythingrelating to wiretap an arrestyou're welcomeand again now in california i think i knew that thiswas a close friend of mr golson she had been referred to me earlier by mr golsoni did make the assumption that he didn't know what he did not say that he wasaware of the specifics and i never did say that to me at any time what does thewhite house i think this has done work closely with mrgolson but his line of command was miserablewhen you receive it
whether any further contacts that you have witnessed of our political systemverygood friends he had worked for me at the white house and a number of timeswe discussed the general intelligence gathering situation andit he did indicate that what he thought was a professionalism critically of mr hunt theenemy together this information but i i'd like to make it clear there was ageneral i think it atmosphere in the white house and the committee ofthe need to gather information this was not necessarily information that would begathered illegally mr howardyesyes we did
there had been a delight in the decision making process in the committee because of theitt and mr mitchell is on vacation in key biscayne i wentdown to key biscayne them is through his hair and we met themand whenever approximate thirty to some thirty some decision papers manyrelating to a direct mail advertising the other part of thecampaign the last topic we discussed was the finalproposal of mr libby's which was for probably two hundred and fifty thousand dollars we discuss to therun up again the pros and cons i think i can honestly say that no one with thatpretty overwhelmed with the project but i think we felt thatthe information could be useful and mr mitchell agreed to approve theproject and i then notified the parties of the master mitchell approvalwhat will bea political arm of the
memorandum we're part of that in the middle of the dayit was i like your normal recession process where we had approvedline at the bottom it was simply the same age as i love and white sheetswith the basics of the plan the number ofpeople he would have to hire a number of electronic surveillance equipment in themouth he would have to purchase of song and i i used to have asystem which it most readers discuss where i make three copies of each document that i would discusswith mr mitchell and documenting his termthe other two copies i've always need to keep this game i gavemr mitchell one copy he did some are locked up some of it but icannot recall what he marked on these papers and again it is a brutaldid not indicate in any formal sense by initially to theright and just indicated looks out
over my normal method of dealing with mr spahnwas there at their request and we sent the decision papers to them and actually before idiscussed with mr mitchell so that was it at any point in there was a pretty goodin this trial an enormous affront to get back to us and indicate their opinion on a subjecti got a swarm of our project scientist eventual a room and keepthem what specificallyinitial entry into the democratic national committeeheadquarters in washington and that had a furtherdebate if the funds were available we would consider them entry intothe presidential contenders headquarters and also apotential at the fontainebleau hotel in miamidid you communicate to
anyone beverly plan as iattempted to reach mr liddy was in key biscayne because he had indicated timeproblems i was unable to do so so when i came back to washington i indicatedmysteries here that mr libby's project have been approving what you notify mr liddyi called was just gone and indicated to him that the project had been approved and itindicated mr sloan that mr libby would be authorized brought two hundred and fifty thousand dollars over theentire period of the campaign but that you probably would need a verysizable amount of that honestlyor some other injuriesi'm sorry itis a radical group that is that i disgusted and be cared mostabout the roomhe said the president included approval of entry into
electronicsurveillance and photography documented for photographing interactionsoh wow that really was allowed to drop two hundred and fifty thousand dollarsand a stronger than a completereport on what was approved yes you are peoplequestioning an unusually large sum of money and eighty three thousand dollarshe requested it yet outwell yeah calledme and said have been literally one in a substantial sum at that time i didn't recall the amount they're<unk> it's eighty three thousand dollars a night i would assume he's correct iindicated that was really get radical mr sloan there and only then went to mrstands standpoint mr mitchell mr mitchell came back to me and said why didgordon needs this much money and i find him that this was an effect from and money that he needed for the
equipment in it also was kind of an operationthomas atlanta has been approved theapproval was complete the curiously herbrutal honesty that i know i did notknow that you know the dollar that was beaten and threewars well i assume there would be i didnot know specifically when mr libby would do that as i recall i don't rememberhe discussed the exact date with your polentain an effort to enter thegovernment words yes i think after the hall wasafter that first entry into the dnc headquartersand assist iran are often my office and mr liddy came in
not a formal meetings and just came in it had trouble in it forthat they tried to do a survey of the mcgovern headquarters andthat mr liddy indicated that they're to have seized this huge shout out wipe out atthat point i was mystified i were him very concerned because we understood formr libby that he would not dissipate himself more with anyone or to submit inhis activities that could be in any way connected with our committeeon thismemorial day weeventually report that tooyes and what that does or that he simplyindicated they had made a successful entry into a place for wire tapping equipmentin that the democratic national committee due to report toyou know or very heavy monitoring station at a howard johnson's motel
my understanding my recollection was that he hadn't in a truck somewherei guess he did not i mean that's my recollection was was a truck but i gather it was in ourjobs we're aware at a time and that was no sirwhen did you get any of the fruitwas bugging him photograph of the current approximately you know a week a weekand a half after the initial entry we've received that i received the first report theywere in two forms one more capitulationof the telephone conversations they were done in the form in which you would know they weretelephone conversations but they were correct references to the phoneconversations and the second word for photography he hadpictures of documents that they had taken out the democratic national committee headquartersyou're famous fingers were on the
photographs of rubber gloves with the fingers now the documents images thateverybody conversations where they work what wasthought they were under the gemstones stationaryyou have seen it since i haveidentify this forthem i can see iti haven't seen since june nineteenththat recordyou recall i thinkit did come in that form i remember seeing a lot i can't recalla gemstone material that come in that are below that could avertwell you say you receded into two well yes orfiber in telephone
conversations and photographs as i recall they both concluded that theusual these materials with the photographsbesides about materials into mr mitchell in myeight thirty morning meetingwell you have now in the campaign and he had given office of thecampaign committee at an office in his law firm and we would be that neither office depending on hisschedule and at that time i showed him the documents in his eyes i think as mostreaders discussed it always had to files you know as i recall review thedocuments indicated as i did that and that was really have nosubstance to these documents that time america's i'll call was at that time we called mrlydia up to his office and <unk> mitchell indicated his dissatisfaction withthe results of thesemore recently indicated that this
was not satisfactory that it was worthless and they're not worth the money that had beenpaying for the fact thatthere was no information relating to any of the subjects we had hoped toreceive indicated that mr liddy indicated that it was problems withone wiretap and that one was not placed in the proper phone and that he would correct these matters andhopefully get the information that was requested usually hasstrong asi recall the sensitive nature of the fact that i call the cyston and asked him would he come over and look at them and my office rather than sending a copy of his office right atour colleague have one copy of these documents he as i recall he did come over andlook over the documents indicate to me the lack ofsubstance to the documentsnow in fact we're still at it not as
they go into another great team ofreporters early morning hours of june seventeen nineteen seventy two whereyou when this year i was in los angeles calif you're wearing just written withit was nomr mitchell mr rew mr porter mr martin that we are have anotherpolitical activities in california that we can what took place in losangeles when you first learned about writing i was at practice thanat the beverly hills hotel are a number of those probably to cannabis of recordsi received a call from mr lydia he indicated to me that i should get to a secure farmersof that there was no way i could get to a secure phone this timehe indicated that there had been a problem the night before i saidwell what kind of a problem of something that i think he indicated that our securitychiefs have been arrested at the watergate and i said you mean this record and he said
yes i think i amblessed to say the least and the sonar call you back immediately on a payphone to getmore detail and i i did that i went to a payphone and called him back and hegave me more detail which was simply typified people had been apprehended atthe watergate and that mr mccourt was among the fiveyes i've ruined indicated the problem and viscerallythan talk mr mitchell and then mr mitchell mr larue when i discussed itagain together we knew this time it was there was acloser feminist release of any of us and mr mitchell as mr martini call mrand i asked him to sing at an attorney generalattorney general mr klein jeans and see if there is a possibility that mr mccourt couldn't bereleased from jail you know what happens all that
call my understanding is that they're they went out to the burning tree country club where hisdecline it was playing golf industry kleindienst rebuff western libya and mr paul morrell waswith him didyou really years later thatday we had numerous phone conversations that day we were trying to comeup with a statement that mr mitchell could make if he was asked in the press conference and thenlater released that statement and i discussed with mysteries here theneed to have to look take a second files from my office andwe were concerned about the braking from our standpoint because of mrmccourt we could not understand why mr mccourt was involved in that situation and we thought thatmaybe since this lincoln was dominant rather amateurish way thatpossibly that was some double agent activity goingon here and we were honestly concerned about our own files i get as history's
near to remove certain filed my advertising file a budget fileour own strategy fire and a gemstone file and i talk with pianistroland mr alcock the gems don't file reviewboard well i yes i talk about moreas i recall i can't recall any otherspecifically oh oh yes i call this astronomyi told him that the course we knew no one he knewof really we knew that they had been apprehended wejust discussed in a sense that we had a problem and we didn't quiteknow what to do about it at that time we had heard that there were some money at that time theyfound on them ian individuals that we hope it was the money that have been found at thedemocratic national committee voted for shalit was our money so we
in effect just discussed a problem we have no answersit's the next morning nine on sundayi received a call from mr all the men he asked me what it happened again i told them basically thathe was and he just asked meand what happened andi just told him what happened and he indicated that i should get back to washingtonimmediately since no one of any position of authority was at the committee and to talk with mr deanof astronomers dream sloan and others on mondayto try to find out what actually had happened in whose money was and soyes i think i could you tell us asthe washington monumentwell on monday i met with mr dean mr
straub mr sloan mr levy that's really anidea that really have too much to say to each other he said he had goosei accepted that are on face value of a really wasn't much to discuss aboutit i determined for mr sloan that the money was our moneynot someone else's money i'll mr dean and i discussso the problem in terms of what we going to do asa kid you have anything on it whenyou came back to washington and all those are yes themaster mitchell flew back that monday with mr monroe mr martin we met inhis apartment with mustard greens and i would've been mr mitchell is in the room mr dean mr martin andmyself and the general discussion again was what were we going to do about theproblem it was again we have very little information we didn't of course know whattype of investigation and the help and we talked about the
types of alternative solutions are not a solution it was was recommendedwhich i was to of course destroyed a gemstone follow so icalled my office and that solutionwell i think yes it is generally concluded that fire should be nearly destroyed andyou destroy guess i destroyed there is much more to comefrom this compelling witness will resume jeb stuart regret his testimony in a momentat this point we'd like to thank you for an overwhelming response to these broadcastsand we urge you to continue your support of the local public television stationthat you're watching right now public television's complete coverage of the senate hearings willcontinue after a pause for a station identification on averagecoverage of these hearings is provided as a public service of the member stations of pbsthe public broadcasting service
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proletarian and pike continues its coverage of hearings by the senate selectcommittee on presidential campaign activities you again correspondent robert
macneil as we go back jeb magruder hasjust testified that he didn't destroy the gemstone files after a meeting with topcampaign aides went on to councils sam dash is now trying to ask about johndean's role but saysrollings wellmr dean was a person that worked with us on the navy's legal matters he had brought there mrlibby to the committee he was a close associate of ours for mr mitchell i'm and alsoall all of us industry very well and he was one person from the white house to work withis quite closely and it was very natural in this situation for mr peanut be part ofour meetings that there's this point in time because of his associationand that his back or i would leave on your understandingi think you really have been doing that
as i recall i asked most recent recall from i thought why many sensitive materialit could be embarrassing to us there was the suitwas placed against us by the democratic national committee which asked for immediate disclosureand as i recall we all indicated that we should remove any documents of libya could bedamaged whether they related at all to the workersthere's this long has testified before this committee that's the group that shortlyafter your return after the break and then you asked him topresent yourself concerning about wanting that mr slavikgiven us to live it you stay here on recollection of thatspecialists law with the first discussion we had two meetings onmonday the first meeting was when i determined from him that the money was our money and thenwe'd discuss that in his arms and he came up to my office and there
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