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linefor season and there's possibly the searchengine for a fairer standards which hewas trying to adjust as white house counseli wont extend our conversation about that much for other except to say youremployer sponsored cause i'm happily un's goals thennow associated in the er are have been together in thealumni association of brown university ohand that the obstacles was aware of your previous historyand background with the central intelligence agency in his predecessorwhat youwere doing
information is around in nineteen fortyand they discharged after being injured in action it'sthe nineteen fourteen points or you're more time alongcorrespondent rely on it in nineteen forty three nineteen fortysix she worked with the opposite strategic services using the un here ofcourse it's a dryyou're sayingthey're based for a while an opening insouthern china and you're or ss you not won a presidential citation ofnineteen forty six he obtained a guggenheim fellowship and spend a year inmexico ringing spanish reading learning spanish i'm writing for two yearsfrom scripture cia was created in nineteen forty seven and in
early nineteen forty nine join that agencythe american embassyour during nineteen forty nine to nineteenfifty you were in vienna austria in nineteen fifty nineteen fifty threeyear in mexico city in nineteen fifty three to nineteen fifty six yourconversation was that of a political adviser to the defense department what americajapan's claim in several european countries during this periodyou're actively involved in the overthrow of the guatemalan regimein nineteen fifty seven and nineteen sixty you were a cia stationchief in montevideo warrior carter was first secretaryof the american council of when the cia sought toresign from that position
rumorshe doeshave adisagreement feel free to tell me soyour song from nineteen sixty to nineteen sixty five andnineteen sixty or back to washington and we are going to display the preparation thecuban invasion are you resigning from the foreign service innineteen sixty just more effective government of mexico in themiami posing as a writer and suddenly a common to us thenext ninety nine years was a lack of the cia'srepresentative the cuban revolutionary council respected post castroused an invasion brigade was being trained in guatemala you
sent your job when the when certain as usual to have tocensor people to the provisional government of cubaand went to miami with thecuban council after the invasion of cuba they'lluse served as a personal assistant to cia director allen dullesare certain activities are not entirely unknown in nineteen sixtythree the american ambassador in madrid refuse to accept us deputy chiefof the local cia station however wewere in nineteen sixty five and nineteen sixty sixgoing into my shoes that was a nineteen sixtysix nineteen sixty seven edition of who's who list of jazz retiredgovernment official living in the area he returned to washington innineteen sixty eight
on april thirtieth nineteen seventy fromnineteen seventy nineteen seventy one companywe continue to work until you became a white house consultant on july seventeenla jolla the dismissal of june july seventeenth nineteen seventytwo news that first get your career recovery various itwas coolthe agency and all thatto get this gas as a precondition you and i discussed with himover the yearsthat company for youoh really
i certainly not foreigners asians knowing what art connectionwiththe jobproducerback in the fiftiesthey don't talk on anumber occasions cia officials about your biggest responsibilities the white house during herten years so i know on more than one occasionon how manypeople it's a half a dozen
years haveinvestigations are top of thatof the medical office is an injunctionsecurityjohn kavanaghconnection with the reflection of americansrunning a financial extent it's unlimitedthe home secretarymr helms
no conservativesupporters of thisprotest began with the bureau's seemingly ever given access to ciapersonnel records recruitno ihave gas service ispresent certain qualifications what will allthat hadn't known photography and the show occasionally the agencyrecruitingvolunteersthey are logisticalsupport
for the positionsnow within gazanone of thosemr pollanno now to author secretarygeneral disgust with the notion that it was justa question youhave to conserverichard thompson
service requires atelling the nation thatthere and aboutthree minutesthere is a conversationthere are substantial portionsof americait isyouknow whatsome houses and businesses in the
conversation to theacquisition of certain practical victory aboutit ninatotenbergbut you knowat that time i did not know us or thejournal of yours today and circumstances that noi don't believe i can measure ms cindyxerox copies of photographs taken and yourfeelings all things that were supplied with his recordand inside buildings
have you seen anyi may have said thatthis is really what i want to findout to deliver the photographic film or someone delivering for the cia to be processed inthe private sector and i'm reneemontagne sothe kurds at the negative image or you know whether cia still hasnot return it i have no ideafb freakthesebusiness and being out in language thatworks carter for his foreign intelligence community
did you have aletter of instructions are equipped with respect to do ingeneral operations in the intelligence field and with the watergate and feeling situationsto you now you understand it a lot ofinstructions of years later itsays its instructions in writing on the general description of the jagger aboutundertows and an authorization an opposition does it also include whatto call itfor a conversation aboutthe general question i believe about certain given you that was not in theellsberg situation and with that material is travis idescribe the interest licensed ostentation first waves tape recorderscameras and why do they want to know where that is
the partyis itdo you know anything about thatgeneral election moneyto paythere's a specificdateuntil
the publicin theplaythepiano thepoint so it was a relatively shortday and watergate committee terms at least as we heard at the beginning homs physical conditionis not the best and it was clear that he tires he's like oh peter kay spent the day oncapitol hill would it howard hunt today now peter is back to talk about the mood of
these hearings and what happened that day along with that use it was watching bureau chief oftime magazine and jack murphy interest and rituals be a gentleman alot was at stake at the hearings today the future course of the committees where thepossibility of future network coverage and not least of all the arab publicacceptance of the need for future hearings and i was arrested on the first witness on ehoward hunt there was a feeling where i set up in the committee room and i must admit i sharedit but can't bomb not productive enoughto interesting i think you've been infectedby that the nixon virus that is to turn this down turn it offi seem to believe that the american people want this but i honestly thatsome people persist in this idea that the kerry should be astar television turned off there are a few polls suggest this but by andlarge the preponderance of scientific evidence the polls show quite the opposite
the network show higher listenership for the hearings your network hereshows our listenership i think they still want them quite honestly i think another factoris that as i suspect many washington has grown more bored with the hearingsand the people out there and that's perhaps what happened with mr hunt he was in hisexplosives were used to around here but i think it was highly significant deeply moving from ahuman standpoint another fascinating in detail well as far as the nixonvirus you're closer to the man than i am so i suspect that if all you've avoided thevirus maybe the russians have to look at seriously even sendthat few remember the testimony during the morning session howdisjointed it seemed to be in the fact that when we went over and over again they'd pick colson really knowor didn't they no nothing ever seemed to get pin down and finally we talked with this during thelunch break and he was he admitted that the house was a sick man a broken man and
that he just really hadn't panned out in public session as a hopi have an executive sessionand sensitive and that anybody they want him for the lead off witness it seems to me that they havesomething something of a dove i would inescapable as point ofview i was going to be born with the proceedings today this is a slightly different tact thaninto discussing a question of the public's dissatisfactionassociation with rather the man on which these questions were asked and the answersa listener that church was not shot that was not focused and neighbor well beyond the mydear colleague in kind hearted friends and it was somewhat thecondition by hans weakness and was not coming through as strongly asfirmly as with previous would assume but had this been a case before a jury i'm sure that to thejury confused what was going on like a checkpoint that first line idisagree with the un and they are the first place i don't know who you are
there and in terms of our witnesses and i'd like to get to that thesubstance of what was a very rigorous abuse order to do that would youcharacterize what was said today by johann terms of the cracks herein this one that comment first i greet us let's not cast it in terms of showbusiness i think that's an end insult to the american public and i think it's gone far deeper malik spentseveral weeks contemplating this thing i think their perception of that goes beyond what weunderstand from it made it much better it should not be viewed in terms of fuel that's right andi think that in terms of that i thought i found this bassam and i found howardhunt personal story to be at one of the crux of the tragedies of this whole thing thathere is a man carrying out orders as he thought for whatever lapse or whateverreason from his own government he stands to spend the rest of his life injail he has four motherless children and there is and tothe best of my knowledge a statement of remorse from the white house from these people
but going into this business i have not detected it from the past and i have not protected itfrom food or from any of these people clean from mile from alec mrhaldeman i find that just appalling and i think out in the american public as one of thethings that makes people so uptight about this or disturbed them somuch that there is no expiration of what was done wrong to these other peoplenot only that not only harmed but the people were victimized by thisare no expression of remorse about what's happened in the country they still stand there say ididn't do it let's cover it up a school on art i would agree that thehuman story of howard hunt was an interesting one but substantively thought that he had to thetotal of knowledge we have he didn't implicate for the first time charles colson and i thinkwe'll talk about that in a man with i think we'll talk about it in the context of whocares about charles colson right now really am now getting underway aboutspiro agnew were wearing about a number of other things the presidential tapes
but what's the drama europe and howard baker his own words or to paraphrase and wewe can't hold a hearing on how much the charles colson own one that you know whocares what we're beginning to penetrate go little by little a little deeper and youfeel that he's a man who's denied all implication up till now here is a mandescribed by some as the president's own man it's just where penetratingjust a little more when i had that feeling i think that's right you do have thisnotion of course i'm more evolved as we thought that there is someadd a dimension that you have confirmation of the notion that there was no discussion ofclemency between paulson and the lawyer forthe smell of confirms the other side which was that this was not an issue ever between theserespective parties no i'm just checked checked what about thislong and somewhat hard to follow argument on the attorney client relationship
i know i got lost after living as an attorney eugene cordero i think it wasconfusing usually the rule is that if you have that affect labor provisionrespect any portion of general information value wave asgeorge you could send her to its disclosure of buyers so important to return tosomeone else in a way that has to all wrong information this is that i can read you a lotabout a person who would otherwise have approached to refuse to disclose or to prevent another from hisclosing unspecified mater has no such problems with respect to that matter if the judge findsthat heat without corruption and with knowledge of his privilege made disclosures many of the matter and that ithink is is the critical question without question the suggestion today wasthat because of the outstanding provisional sense of judgment that coupledwith joshua this injunction that mr khalid cooperate ms johnston in aposition i think to his attorneys that he is being coerced into speaking contrary to the right
here as prevalent and that should sometime arise later when the question is does mrbutler speak about the moment with respect to china's not justified in america take theposition that the collection involves a regular invoke this exception to therule of a waiver i'm a very clear that it's an unusual propositionlegally and normally what hundred said center that would have waived the privilege forbut i think david may be back supposition that was of mr sachs was talking about and they ask a muchsimpler legal a question that mr had testified that onehundred fifty six thousand dollars in legal fees that's an awful lot of money to play theclient really is the legal rates become that inflated it i was born and that's a goodpoint inflation the kind of the legal profession i cango to collegethank you
we so i think morepartisanship in the first hour this morning with everybody set senator wyden fromrepublicans fred thompson center for any senator baker olive andchipping in snarling a little bit of those the most ambitious questions and some of theprocedure you think that's going to be the pattern oh probably i think you know thesethings change and nature as they go along there isn't any question of that and i suppose of thecast and more participants mark partisan tones and bbthat's part of this offensive that we talked about earlier totry to picture this that you know but once again you know inthis nation of ours not a somewhat have that you don't have to listen tothese hearings in all of the american public can get out with a minimum amount of effort walkover and with a very slight further effort turn the television knob andturn the hearings off they don't have to read about them in the morning
augustine self innovate is it might be that wehave about what's involvedarson charges what should be broadcasting steamy analysiswe can leave those who honestly those of dough and walk away frompeople for a much jam ok you've heard whatand the four of us think about today our sons first date and now you takeand take that any way you want to inform your own opinions and draw your own conclusionswe will be back tomorrow night for the committee's thirty ninth day anyhour one second and tell them or peter kay an impact on jimlehrer thank you and goodnight from washington you've been watching devil thedevil videotape coverage of the hearing of the senate select committee on presidential campaign activitiesthis program was made possible by grants from the corporation for public broadcasting and the ford
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Robert MacNeil and Jim Lehrer anchor gavel-to-gavel coverage of day 38 of the U.S. Senate Watergate hearings. In today's hearing, E. Howard Hunt testifies.
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