The MacNeil/Lehrer Report; NAACP Convention

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organized country and the naacp went to court nomination for a while one of the major civil rights organizations and in many areas of the country the only walk in the quarter a major victory and in the nineteen forties the university of mississippi all right naacp was either there or supporting most of the facts although it now share of the civil rights act like them or not that came

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national anthem the man the naacp has chosen to leave it to its new day is benjamin hooks over in hopes of a minister and an attorney and was a banker as well before being appointed a commissioner at the federal communications commission is resigning from the fcc to take the naacp hopes mr brooks what do you see as the new day for the naacp well to the extent that they can have a rather than just two things first one is the actual freshman leadership internally of myself or two we feel that in the comfort of the independent american and waited long enough or for citizenship unlike the nintendo recent <unk> action necessary to achieve does the image of the organization now molly you can take over his leadership yes the metabolic crisis will force the thing that we can conservative estimate accept a conservative might mean to remember that the volatile issue of the government most of them and

i'm melissa block in total allowable phone of the launch of machine gun and that what they believe will lead to the re practice and the recipient of the conservative in the sense of new liquidity to a fundamental principle of integration of the war in any specific new directions are programmed to join institute well we know kind of internal randomly simply but in israel the museum in america liberty liberties union uses the court action that they're successful the living musical memoir him have made common cause social movements nashville chamber of commerce and the national forces might affect views there was another one they won't stop the concord in new york the streets and highways the gay rights movement the women's movement all of them using its part tactically and the recently and yet about the reality it's something well obviously with their lives we can weave we had we expect to continue the types of things have the very successful lost another successful and chain whole life knowledge of

america love those who were not immune to changes some but from the wall of the libyan officials and the additional four things john ridley also when to use conservation education at the american jewish congress and the national coffers of christian views that we're going to get more breakable round two of you can have a lot of membership more money than they owe on our staff and they're going to state legislators an account log in a very thick with litigation voting rights education lobbying efforts and direct action where women are less feasible and that will continue those to that up till now that you have not heard of a better way of doing it is that right now about where nice thing about where not nervous in a market to come up with a poem and i'm not asking about that when they bring it out with appropriate that fact that like other people of utah as the naacp lost love clout recent years old in nineteen

sixty three we reached the peak in the michigan was about nineteen seventy one and gone back to roughly six there's no one in thirty or forty so remember back of the thunder continues now with file and sixty three million of the cooking made that famous speech at the end of last month and obviously people who've been gathered there was one thousand three hundred a week we are not fixed version of imitation of how large that is the preoccupations of the lineup for the superficial alligators in the news or live more concerned about an article we will find some abandoned house on some topics of the downsides an action rather than the reality is going to make america live that it's always awful on that lack of news media attention and this has given a lot of people who criticize a superficial reasons for this that because they have not involved in and that law since the news media don't concentrate in the timeless they

become victims of thinking that our image is what the reality of the need to defend it the perspective now of two young people with different views of the naacp first annually she's twenty seven years old works as a graphic artist in new york city going up in cleveland ohio ms moseley you remember the naacp which are not anymore wanna well it can remember it was more or less traditional arm lengthy and late fifties came out and people of my peer group we became more concerned with the chains now as opposed to we shall overcome from date palm later i got involved were working just different groups and the end of white thinking more like submerged

thought i didn't take the same type of interest just talking about image of the naacp was talking specifically about the external images given by the press what what is your how do you see the naacp what image comes to your mind when the worry it will not phrase naacp is that aren't well i think basically of our condition as well the forefront and fighting earlier for equal rights to live among those who were earlier is that you were but he's been doing now you know i think i really that could be because the media newspapers were never alone a fire but you know i really haven't heard what you see from your perspective in terms of how you see your knees as a

black person in the united states do you see the naacp in its activities relevant to well i'm not quite sure but now the gail anderson she's twenty years old a student at art college in atlanta safely and she sees the naacp quite differently she's an active member of the organization and now serves on its national board of directors it respond to want the sleeves just said ms anderson well their vision or her how she sees the naacp i think a lot of young people have misconstrued ideas as leslie and i think of the lack of knowledge that's it time to check with their local branches a local chapters they would know what the naacp was doing the naacp is picked up by newspapers their activities or in some places but you there is a way to find out what the association is doing if you're interested in the

associations that they have at all what do you think that will you think the naacp itself has done and getting young people interested in the naacp with the workers that we do have you know like i said some young people just can discontented with the organization for reasons unknown they're distracted by television things like that in the news business to look say they run around picking up stories like cops the new people and things like that i think it says the whole concept of the american society now that the idea that you or the store that for years and also a victory for vermont said also that the problems of the naacp are so if all the press the naacp itself as well as possible and yes we have some responsibility but the press is very lax with the naacp

well what can you tell mostly irrigation well she should because they've rejoined the naacp become acting that was based on the history and what about the now reviled now and yet we still have the same problem that we had yesterday palin at a famous atheists what the economic problem with legal battles and things of that nature but young people should be more the education system has more opened to young black people in our nation because of how they got to where they i'm well how we can we get a list didn't go the thin cotton mather thank you and finally an hour before we go back to commission reports from francis ward a reporter in the midwest bureau the los angeles times and chicago he's been covering the black political sing for several years based on your sounds as a reporter there's the attitude toward the naacp

differ with very major groups right now addington was different was very unusual right there was the attitude toward the naacp dictated by my age i think for valor to mention that old i don't think there was much of an impact will appeal to young people and we do have some young people and a lack of that just as the alliance and systemic it i think the greater appeal lies with the old people people who frets over thirty five i want to say one thing though i may in response to what galen republican states contain the press it's a general feature of press coverage these days of the whole civil rights movement the whole struggle for liberation and it has been very imprecise about all of the masnavi knowledge in the ways of the national urban league the aclu or groups working this area don't get paid one that we used to think the reason for that is because now are when america for them would think that the struggle is all about is threatening to assassinate the counselors and out and we don't have the dramatically marches

the way we used to and i just think the white america has now thinks that the struggle itself that need the threat has been removed and that now that there's so much emphasis on the first black university who believe that big dipper down an image that the meat you would prefer to project is that things are okay now or that things are much better for all of american lexicon and the best of the store they would prefer to focus on rather than onshore right so that even groups with the image of conservative judges in the way the people they want what could be done about that what the naacp and other organizations do about well i think that they need to comply a whole lot more to new executive i think they need to do more become more active and that's a suggestion that we have an active already would become more active nfl i think they have to raise the issue publicly the way one familiar words thoughts you know often does in chicago the race issue publicly and

nationally to have more meetings with media executives and assembly complaint as often as they can about the lack of women on the media attention back to the organization naacp itself is it's those affected is it once was no i don't think so an endorsement from his village because one thing he says it knows full well that the criticism of the association and not from those people who advocate violence or to go on the best of the criticisms come this far most of the criticism of these things come from people who were really activate it now we used to be at the piano and i just thought about you know anybody to be characterized as a revolutionary i thank thee it is predominantly fairly within grasp of those people who believe in a moderate degree of change you are a moderate group progress as opposed to other people who wanted to use different tactics you know

for different reasons and i don't think those different actors were revolutionary of violent or anything because i think that the association primary activity the last fifteen or twenty years has been a slow plodding to achieve a degree of racial integration in education and i think that even had all those goals and achieve you can file lawsuits in various cities the vast majority of blacks who attend public schools in the big cities especially notable effect that i think the prior to juvenile salmon long time ago i also believe that even in the days of a one chord the whole question of using the courts as a front as the principal not the only difference will be able to achieve change should've been questioned seems to me the chief justice burger has already made a pledge that under the burger court the extent to which the courts can be used as ineffective instruments that change you know micro be limits i think just be forgiven by her feel at this convention you know is an indication of that let's go back to the commissioner hopes that you heard what would mr

warga said about that maybe the technical role of the courts is that useful if you agree one more thing using the court system that they can use anything but there is i think where the difference between them and in the police chief ed that the other huge direct action to a greater degree supplement that with this report from the viewpoints of the fact that was on the mouth and the sense among the recipient along the forceful points we get a million dollar tournament thousand or businesses goes above the action just last year we got up to sixty five although that was in mississippi because of direct action oui oui oui oui although the action they couldn't impose tolls to attempt of that thing that is one

form of the action in the animals involved in the midst of a highly unusual i'm a lot of a group of activists mississippi state in march in a statement from the list of volunteers that optimistic about they are the direct action i can think of in fact i think over the years but nothing worked at an incident at the case and it was a more the exception than the rule within the boys' city i don't think anybody using direct action probably as much as they should leave but my point is that there be using the courts as a principal instrument for change is not effective as effective as it is a lot to be without direct action settlement it's not either or question not a question that a lot of your years ago that you'll see and i think given the way you live michelin ask you are you concerned about the

attitudes of young people for the naacp such as business leaders went through the years and i am distressed because i think that his interest of the state that you don't understand because you can get the information you don't have the information because of him reported in the city of cleveland just don't involve a massive school desegregation case remember lot like a branch in new york city are involved in you know this and that was the convention they sing about direct action was that just a conventional and a basic involve more direct action than any other country in the sixties was to remember that in alabama and dr king and rosa parks thought that they would end up with a few people that that they had been outlawed and the recipient then they could not operate so that was all in the ways that he worked with in montgomery historically so who have not been very well

and he came as an outgrowth of the fact in alabama we have to have you couldn't end of a few people who for fifteen years and that which he cannot operate palpable and many ministers in style most of his past where that would not been in that city but he kept meticulous with that example everything we've done that were done by end of this book or will smith oval office you'll see a champion on the whole momentum in other cities what that common and then jumping within the obama hundreds of all who live in the moment for the nation in this destroy the fact of force all add an n at the end of this ep received as they vent about the stem had happened because nobody a deal with a beautiful tower and charismatic personality of dr martin king sr who was a member of this fiercely i myself was in the water this filthy

hours involved in the south and i know you want to live at the water there still seem to want to have a lead you're gonna walk or corn freedom riders let the parents have to make is that whether or not we were as active as they were the fact is that we remain now via must be a reason for a mere fifteen thousand new members they have ninety four and fifty thousand members have fought that we raise more money from the black population and left the news and all of her life although they can combine and i have made so that it is it is it is it is a problem i think that distresses me because i think that most people are reacting of course fast one and here's the end of the war the largest fabricating and the vision that will have an ability that we referred to a movement going on for many many years and therefore leadership

organization who felt that about all that without moving aggressively to go to sleep and they ask you you heard what the measure votes in the end none of the center's an absurd to say that that doesn't affect what's what your reaction wow a lot of the history in terms of what kind of life that he had been in the paris i know in terms of what they're doing right now i'm still what do you imagine what could mention books do to bring you back into the naacp fold is there anything he can do well i do i suppose basically where i needed action you know what exactly is going on here that really moving doing something that had direction for

today's i am living now the poem in bringing about change they're falling apart but worries that change calling not really well represented by a man who has no knowledge of the few path is condemned to repeat the future and there are certain sources of information about the naacp and its history and they're historians you were well we development of love money ask you commission these sixteen on conventionally naacp of the mail or are in next year what in your fondest ranger would you like to be a boss and a convention and say you've accomplished in your first year or what i like to sell

out of the resistance of white america racism still alive and well in this country it's a manifest in so many ways and it's it's shameful and tragic that we have to report that after two years of independence and black will lead the fight for every day every step we were way for a company oasis it's almost enough to make one lose faith in the system but i've come back beautifully to the fcc commissioners and all these things give me hope that we can make something but i will not honor the would be the slave of the appeal to white america conference to do what we have to do to make them understand that they don't stop exactly on the citizens and then we'll unwind and p o prices almost unbearable woman thanks to the three of you others remain will be back tomorrow night with a look at president carter's decision on the b one bomber and jan morrow thank you and goodnight from state laws

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