Window on the world; Sir Norman Angell

The National Association of educational broadcasters in cooperation with the British Information Services presents a window on the world a tape recorded series of talks by eminent British citizens. This week our speaker is Sir Norman NGO Nobel Prize winner for his book The Great Illusion is abject progress and peace. Britain and America in a changing world. Here now is Sir Norman and Joe. It is my great good for the past 20 years of my life in the United States that I have very vivid memories. Yes but I'm talking to you at the moment from my home in moves. And I want to point out certain features of the history of the last pin seems to me have been marked by an extraordinary contra meaning causes of which stillness killed us on the one side we have this vast expansion of the Russian Communist empire

represented by the virtually any exceeds ten European nations and the domination of China with its five or six hundred million population. More significant Still perhaps is the fact that the Russian Communist empire possesses missionary's agent. But this comes in the shape of communist parties. They go through in every country of the world notably the great democracies of France and never before you know history has an empire shook so rapidly and so immense an expansion. On the other side we have we can trust the cracks of the British Empire and British withdrawal from India back is done in the Sudan Palestine. The story cannot. Egypt was exhausting and obstinate. We'll see

Kenya Cyprus on rice several African that Britain does not possess the kind of support which Russia finds in Communist Party the world over. Indeed most nations including in the past United States have possessed properties stronger isn't it. British imperial power as an evil swastika who in effect. No how do we account for this. Well the results are well over and done with the world as during the 19th century and have the results of Russian power during the 20th century being so very good that simple is not a fact the century in which British powers are gone and so are the growth of democratic institutions throughout the need by any previous impossible it may be looted the British

out of the 19th century aided enormous expansion and security of the United States. As well at the beginning of that since Napoleon made his plans for the reconquest of the French empire in the New World and got as far as assembling the French army in the West in the West Jefferson Lynn the president promptly room to fight an opponent of the French army landed in New Orleans. The United States rode Natalie had to sell it to the British nation and the British fleet as he put it. Jefferson In other words was using British power to make possible their Louisiana Purchase which shortly flood. The money being supplied incidentally by British bankers. When 20 years later in 1823 Russia put herself at the head of the wholly alive it's a group of autocratic power was

hoping to suppress liberal democratic movements throughout the world of the 19th century Kamin And as part of that plan proposed 10 of recently out of Spanish American colonies displayed in that circumstance it was can you a British minister who proposed the present policy recruit later to become known as the Munroe doctrine and offered the support of naval British naval botanists the hop over the sea nudges the method sixteen with the dime but through Jefferson mongerer methods I would quote from one of the present day. The question which can be on the free world today still gravely menaced by totalitarian powers in Eastern Europe and Asia is whether the flying British power as a factor in the defense of the West is permanent. I suggest that it is not all that need not be that the

material bases off from our power exists in the flotilla integration of the more undeveloped Canada Australia New Zealand and South Africa. These dominions possessed and yourselves is greater than those of the United States and are capable of producing a similar extent of pottery provided that the nations of the Commonwealth apply to relationship the spume and American lesson approach and if you could unity this date the rule for American Union from a pretty good unit to a degree that the nations of the Commonwealth do not their dominions ought to present their little unit that they have not even the government that is the government of Australia and another of Canada and so on but that is new government of the Commonwealth. Americans as well as the

Canadians Australians New Zealand. I don't trust that when the nations of the Commonwealth acquired complete independence from Scotland Dominion status as it's called they were affirming the example set by the British colonies of North America after the War of Independence. But you didn't have not forward the examples set by the colonies. Five yeahs off at. The conclusion of peace with Britain. The third kings they performed a scene in which each separate state gave up its independence and merged in that of the federal government. The course of history would have been very different if it did not if each state had not been willing Thus the sacrifice of the pendants boating that kid. We should of had been rudely speaking North America. Political conditions

some of the resembling those of react in America which is divided into 20 dependent governments so little 90 looked to hold 20 or do occupying territory and command does not agree to go to the United States have neither the problem all that well which Washington is able to use bold of defense and security. Call us that are good and geographical reasons why the spirits of the British Common would not form a single pretty good Union United States but to get in rapidly altering geography or candor is ready much longer now. Than Washington was to San Francisco when California became a stoop to the moon. I'm not implying that the good Munoz whittle shook form of Federation

precisely the line of the night but the dimming rooms are increasingly recognising bronc you just don't buy a piecemeal approach this building it up its growth can be hastened if we were 19 states instead of regarding it as a sort of resurgent imperialism gives it. British political institutions have a lower adaptability to changing stuck and 19th century conditions may have just the role of the Commonwealth. The general principle of complete independence for our own community is the design. But if we are to apply that principle during the next half century saying the tribal communities of Africa we should create the can dismiss of anarchy and turmoil in that continent which Prime Minister and peering those in the know how do you know what it's

expansion. Now surely we should do well to revive in the light of the fact some of us simplified condemnations of British imperialism. You barely get a thought a day may at times but I for the loop of the only available 10 structures complete anarchy or complete defenselessness. If there had been no British Empire after the fall of France in 1940 no Gibraltar no motor no troops in Egypt to defend the series going up and resist the armies of rum Novolin getting the Army of the Million More than two million to resist the Japanese forces coming down. Then I suggest it is evident that Britain would have had 400 rounds into surrender and would have conquered Europe and Japan have conquered India and put it that it's very low. The subsequent situation of the United States would have been to care

what it is true that Britain could not have won the world by herself she could have her lost by her and made the cost of defense for the United States a menace to the north. You know let them do present. They did what you generally do but thank you for all 23 jettisoning that keep your servant the declination of Independence route. These were I quote. But endeavor should soon to be to make them as they are that if for even one issue most of goodness yes. Is this you see now Office and camp. Yes in Great Britain is a nation which can do is the most harm of any or all of that aside we need not. Yeah those who were with her that

we should take your list. The judge called your friend she warned of degradation and deficit. These are words with record went to Britain that may have become the center. I think group coming that in so that you have been listening to Nobel Prize winner Sir Norman and generally speaking on the subject. Progress and peace. Britain and America in a changing world. Listen next week when window on the world will present. So are all of our Franks chairman and a director of Lloyds Bank and former British ambassador to the United States. His subject learning to live with prosperity. This has been a tape recorded presentation of the National Association of educational broadcasters in cooperation with the British Information Services. This is the end AB Radio Network.