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Look the chain conference here in Geneva park by the shores of Lake Ontario about 200 people are gathered for a week to discuss this year's topic. The Latin Americas. Tonight we're going to try to feel the texture of life in the southern hemisphere to trace the multicolored patterns blending the fabric which is the Latin American way of life. We should talk of the Spanish heritage the role of the church the tensions created by the extreme wealth and extreme poverty and the racial intermingling in the different countries which form what we in the north call Latin America to introduce the speakers. A Canadian writer and broadcaster who has spent much of his life in South America. William Cram. Ladies and Gentleman the subject of tonight's discussion is the texture of life in Latin America. Now at first glimpse a subject like that might seem to be more proper for the authors of tourist books than a subject for an earnest conference on public affairs. But that isn't so. To understand friction you have

to study text here and unfortunately frictions in Latin America have been mounting to a very alarming extent. Of course these things have had their counterparts in other parts of the world as we'll. But in a very real sense American diplomacy as we know it for the better or for the worse has taken shape in Latin America. There were many decades during which the United States and here quite rigorously to Washington's advice of new foreign entanglements. Yet at the same time they were very active in Latin America. It was there more than anywhere else that the diplomats of the United States first developed that baffling mixture of elbows and self-righteous philanthropy of bums and good intentions are

very unusual powers of in perception. But we have since witnessed elsewhere and this without a doubt has facilitated the advances of communism because the communists never forget it rarely create a situation they exploit an already existent one. And that is why instead of just dealing with politics and economics we thought it wise to try to take a glance beneath these things and try to detect origins for the many persistent errors. All these feel we feel that basic to all is a certain lack of Rup puir with human values in Latin America. I think but very fundamental to this is a new over estimation. All of the American way of life the

reason all of it is to an almost absolute international event. Now there are many things that the United States has to offer Latin America and that Latin America is eager to receive. Technology sanitation and many aspects of American political institutions. But few Latin Americans would say thrilled at the prospect of having a reproduction of a culture of Oshkosh or Omaha in Latin America. I believe that we are on this northern continent. We have much in common with our American cousins must reach the point of realizing that the good Lord in His wisdom created national cultures with very important differences. And that these differences should be savored and respected. And instead of trying to mobilize Latin America for the defense

of the American way of life we must offer to them greater possibilities for the development of their several Latin American ways of life and we hope this evening in part to try to nail down and clarify just what the differences some of the differences between our cultures in the north and the cultures of the lands to the south might be. Our first speaker Dr. Louis sun Chiz was fortunately already known to me. Our paths crossed before in the gleaming white city of Lima in Peru some 13 years ago. In Lima they haven't buried the Compete his mummy was in state in the cathedral and the spirits of the old brigand still lives very much alive in certain

sectors of the ruling. All Again it's the oldest university. All of a hemisphere San Marcos where Dr. Sanchez has long been active that the resistance that the challenge to this spirit of peace saddo has developed. It was there 30 years ago 40 years ago that a priest a movement of 30 some yes developed and raised the ideal of freedom of social justice and America not Latin American alone but American Unity before the entire hemisphere. When I knew Dr. Sanchez the curtains were about to fall again on the brief period of political liberties that Peru had enjoyed. But now we're glad to see the doctor Sanchez has returned from his infix and is back at San Marcos. That is certainly one of the most promising harbinger

of the future of democracy in Peru. Dr. senses. Ladies and gentlemen the first thing I have to ask you to forgive me because of my very poor English as a matter of fact I am the creator of a language my own language English. So you have to translate it to us. English is not a hard task I thought but it's a task. I have a week in. My speech of today but afterwards this morning I realized that I am unable to read it. I can read it even in Spanish my own text hoarseness English. So I had to make a mix of a mixture of reading and speech English speaking and I don't know which would be the result. I hope it would be

best. If you don't put in people who are upset or live in Latin America and compare it with the customs and habits in Europe and in America where they're Canada or the United States immediately finds conspicuous differences in many of these are more apparent than real. No one can deny that they exist. The first scene which is noted in the different attitude towards everyday life seems to me that I have to add a paragraph to this speech. Somebody suggest me that I have to tell you something about geography. As a matter of fact geographically Latin America is a split by the mountains the enviornment these means a sort of territorial unity for Latin America but at the same time from the NDA we have two

faces the Atlantic faces that is always looking to Europe and the Pacific face always looking to Asia or to America itself seems to me it is very important to make a difference between the Atlantic Latin America and the Pacific Latin America. So it is the first difference because in Latin America the second thing the second problem is this second point. Everybody used to speak about liking America as a whole. I don't think so. Seems to me that letting America as a whole or Europe but you have in Europe made a difference and a very important point. In Europe there are many nations who used to speak different language in spite of which Europe exist in Latin America. We used to speak the same language in spite of which Latin America maybe does not exist.

So the main point is this is the languish area link it constitutes the beginning the basis of a real unity. Or maybe to speak in the same language is the beginning of a difference of a split of a fight. Let in America we have a big population of Indian population is very useful to say that we speak about the Indian and so far as I know Latin America and some places in Africa and Asia and Europe. I think that there are Indians and Indians like you. There are Africans and Africans and Asians and Asians dainty and selecting America bro born from very different origins. They have cared and they have in fact very different

standards of living and very different standards of civilization and culture. So it's too easy to say to speak about the American Indians as a whole as it is so easy to speak about be let be the whites in the world. There are whites and whites Indians Aeneas and needless English. So we pretty sins seemed to beginning many problems and maybe the most important problem is each to think in terms of our very happy instead of our unity unity maybe yes indeed in the ultimate goal in defining what we are looking for that it is necessary to avoid the preference if it is today to get to the additions. I kept us some time of my life and universities of the United States so you can ask why you speak so by the English.

Well I was engaged to speak Spanish. So it was impossible to make my practice. They made better practice and I don't know why I didn't. This is I have I have notice that in the United States in these university it's very very frequently that you speak about some trends of our life for instance about our tradition. And they said that we are the whole world because we have a very strong Spanish tradition and a very strong Catholic tradition. I have written a book about some of these problems. I am not making publicity from my book. Fortunately for us it's just in Spanish not translated to English. But the thing is this. In fact

the Spanish tradition in Latin America these are like the English tradition for many Canadians and for the English tradition for many Americans. This is a source of pride in some ways and of resistance and a negative attitude towards it. What is it. Because the independence is too near to us too close to us and we've got to do what we had been thinking in Spain in terms of the imperialist power. So it is necessary to distinguish into the Spanish tradition. Many trends if you were to Mexico for instance the Spanish tradition is just the popular Spanish tradition in Mexico. They refuse to recognize the influence the influence of Eremenko to case the Spanish conquerors. And until now

the name of it told the Princess who was the mistress of course apace ECE the symbol of the worst way of living. They say Madeline she's moma Lynch isn't to the threesome in political and social ways. But it was the Republicans who went to Mexico after the war the civil war of 1938. They're yet to receive it. They will receive it like natives like Mexicans and they have been pulled to the Mexican life as Mexicans in Peru is the opposite way. The Spanish tradition which is the religion of the radical Iraqi and we we we like to be bullfights the dance the flamenco dances all would be to risk a sponge that Ed.. In Chile a Spanish tradition means the hardware could be Basque

without any any proud of bullfights and so forth. So even the Spanish tradition has at least two phrases. The oligarchy faced the monarchy monarchical face and the popular face at least two faces and it is necessary to discover which is the face. If one look at it in some other countries give it to me the Catholic Church. I have been reading months ago a book by Miss Euphrasia CA. He was engineer France from France and he was at the service of one of the capitals the capitals the kings of France. He went to South America and he wrote a book this book is titled Why Yashin America suit in this

book. He said that he found the Catholic habits and customs in Lima to see light. He said that women in Lima prefer to be in the church or in processions but not to make a fast. They say he said that they wait in Lima at that time in the eighteenth century more divorces done in Paris at that time. I don't know if these are reported to Mr. Frisbie is very accurate but it is reported. So reference it's necessary to take it in account. Otherwise you have for instance in Chile that a clear regime is a very liberal one. He is the cattle call of the fallen. He's one of the more progressive political

movements in Chile is a Catholic movement. You have in Colombia the opposite way. The Catholic movement the clergy is one of the more conservatives in Latin America. You have in Venezuela in Cuba in order why they there are no influence of the Catholic Church. Seems to me mainly in would weigh in with why they have a bullish even the names of the Catholic or the Catholic feast us. They said for instance that the holy The Holy Week. They say the work of Judaism and you have many trends many aspects of these Catholic employers. So it seems to me that in spite that certainly we have a very strong Catholic tradition. It is necessary to distinguish among this Catholic tradition

some trains some nuances some aspects and if we don't don't don't do that. We are absolutely mistaken about a generalization. Baty dangerous generalization about not in America culture. Frequently when people of other countries used to speak about our political organisation I have heard some comments about the facility with which we change our constitutions. Some countries have a more constitutions and years of independent life. Maybe I am not ashamed of that. If so I remind always a book by a great sociologist French was eulogized misuse shallots in your book who said

that the Latin American revolutions is that to be a symptom of the Seas is a symptom of health of youth. We are looking for our just among. So we are really. I don't think if you agree with that I am afraid no of course I agree it is not history to agree but of us. But the thing is this. We can't import all our our our lows. And in Utah for instance low is the result of a long practice of a long custom of long experience in Latin America law was the result of any horse on it. We import the lows as we import refrigerators we import cars as we import hearts and habits and and foods. So it is necessary to adapt

these imported logos to true realities in our countries. And this process of adaptation of modern but for in Los too may be ancient by real and true habits of living this is the process of revolution. So we are looking for stability but Librium and so these are lows and these constitutions are too frequently numbing reality. When we used to say in the colonial period on consecrated First it means Loz that were respected but not applied. Eastern euphemism for Latin America to respect the law. I've not put in reality you know to not apply it well. But this but this said so recently sophistication came from the biter royalty when the king of Spain saying the

law impracticable to Latin America to America. The Viceroy put it on his head bowed low and said the law of the law is respected but it's not carried out and we have many of these have AIDS as a result of an historical development quite different to developing in the United States and in Canada. For instance let me in the 13 colonies in the United States have establish local government. We don't have it. So it is very very hard to have a real democratic real Democratic Party without a long practice in local government and we haven't. So there are many other differences. I think that should be able to talk and talk about it because it is one of the ways of my own living and thinking. But I

realize that this is the time to end this. If you say Doc's speech I don't know these words to call it in some way and to be ready to ask some questions if I am able to understand the questions. I hope to do it not too well but in some way. And so yes euro excuse again because of this speech. And I thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much Dr. Sanjay. Our next speaker is a recent arrival from the shores of Cuba freedom with doctors

is not an abstraction. He has just arrived into exile on behalf of it. Dr. Patel was active in Havana as secretary of the North American Cuban Cultural Institute and therefore he is unusually placed to have observed the barriers and the difficulties in the way of a closer between the peoples of the United States and Cuba. Dr. A. I should like Mr. Chairman ladies and gentlemen to address my remarks to my colleagues in the field historian and friend of many years. Don't doubt Elise about the sanctuaries in connection with this

audition all subject which he chose for his lecture and which he omitted in reading the title of life in Latin America. That sure has something to do with. We've been into We've been mixin many different anything was putting them together trying to get of the Salton pattern that will be a different theme from all the ingredients combine into the we've been we've been it's a very auditioner Athena and I should like. Professor scientists who Sabet a prolific writer with many and very important books to his credit one day to light a book about these given all the time the search and the ability that he

has because anybody going into these to study is going to find the key to this problem all for luck in America. We should have been being this cause he seen yesterday which will take up what time for the rest of the coming week. One thing that would be very important to clarify the beginning is that we are all using that misleading term when we say Latin America. What is the Latin America lawsuit exists. Was he saying it was not a wisecrack it was a very important thesis to be put forward because Latin America doesn't exist there are a number of countries livin in Central and South America and in the Caribbean islands and

all of them are as the result of a generalization called Latin America. What are we going to think for instance of the day in which the British islands in the Caribbean will become another the minyan or a separate entity and shall we call them part of Latin America. What will happen with the islands belonging to the Netherlands. They are in their way to become a separate entity with the Dutch. They are not Latin and however they are down there. We Ganesh take a little They imagination and say that Haiti Martinique was a loop and the French Guiana is Latin

not Latin from long happen as they used to have in that all sun in the United States. But there are many different countries in Latin America and this term is severely misleading. We have many things in common. We have traditions in common. We have certain background in common. But even in the colonial period it was different from one as Spanish colony to the other. And of course from Brazil to all this Spanish American colonies and from French from the French colonies around the Caribbean to the colonies over Spain or Portugal. And that is something that ought to be glad we fly all the time to say that maybe was going to be better to say the Latin American republics

but Latin America as such does not exist as Professor of Sciences was a you know a while ago. That is something in this estimate that he has been trying to present to us with section of life in Latin America that is very important. The ratio of mixed emotions under the distribution of the races in the Latin American Republics nations all peoples Peru for instance has a large Indian population but alone the coast has an equal population to one of the better fuel countries in South America on the Pacific coast. To have negroes. But when you go down to Chile then it is a little different. And there are less Indians. I'm by far less negroes in Ecuador. The pattern is more or less the same in Peru

or done in Peru along the coast. There are Negroes and descendants of negroes and then a large Indian population. The White and the mixed years but I feel it's not a myth. A microcosm is a macro cosmologies a huge country with 65 million inhabitants and a tremendous mixture of races. Venezuela and Colombia have something like that but Euro Y and Argentina they have even forgotten that they had Negroes in their meats in the last century and they have some various small homelands of the Indian population. Bolivia ECE I'm part of the ECE 90 percent Indian no negroes. But then you go to Central America and the situation changes and one of the most

curious changes is from Panama to Costa Rica joining each other Costa Rica white Panama mixed lot. The islands have a different pattern. What you recall on Cuba are more white than the Dominican Republic and Haiti. And then do the actions of all of those peoples have to be condition according to the popular ingredients. All the populations are such and they have a modest stable government. They will have. Better Balance population and will be into the rest of Central America and Mexico as well. So there are so many differences there but iot is such

that we have the Latin American republics that Latin American nations all the Latin American peoples but we don't have luck in America as such. Even the manners of speech change in such a way with this Spanish language that we know who we get to gether that locked in Americans that you come from Argentina and you come from Cuba. You are a Mexican. And so on and we never make a mistake we are certain about it. I know that was a question that ought to be mentioned and it was thought rather briefly because he had he had to do it that way. Professor science uses the police's problem. That is not the regular pattern for all the Latin American Republics nations or peoples. In one case in Cuba I was born in this town 50000 people

and I remember very well that in Ducktown heart in us in Cuba there are two Baptist churches. One person material one methodis one Episcopalian two synagogues and crafts of the churches. And we cannot on the stand when Willets what is happening in Colombia now that there are live bullets against the Protestants and they are going after them and they've closed their churches and they persecute them for a damn preachers. That is something that for us in Cuba dosing have any explanation because with all the bad things we have against this question of the leaders pressure this is alien to us. Those things ought to be mentioned when talking about a lot in American politics. Thank you very much Dr. parted. Our next speaker deserves a very special mention. He is

Mister said to injure American representative of the mystery has run what might be called a milk route up and down Latin America for a good good many years. No matter how the state department of the United States might have wavered defending the democracies one day and courting strong in the fight against communism the next Mr. Moore and the organizations whom he represented remained effective supporter of every every progressive labor movement in Latin America. Now that meant a lot not only for Latin America but for the United States of America. There were times when American prestige would have hung very low indeed if it were not for the American labor movement represented by Mr unloved. Mr. Modi.

Thank you Mr. Chairman ladies and gentleman. Let me see said I consider it a privilege and the distinct honor to be called upon to command on the highly informative and stimulating indeed of my distinguished friend but a first release of my eminent teacher of human values to a whole generations of Americans. Let me first expand on professional scientists statement concerning the tradition of the Catholic Church and the influence of this tradition in the social development of Latin America. It seems to me that so nobly hiim this role of the Catholic Church and we have a whole session to be devoted to him. Time has your permission to put my two cents what. From do you have sort of authority over the labor

movement from which I have you with the Latin American scene in the past 20 years. I must say that the church generally allied itself in the past. We did it and apart from this act as Casler sentiment among the great mass of exploited workers in person and particularly among the middle classes and the intellectuals. However I wish to emphasize the fact that in the last 20 years the concern about the active duty with the church has begun to be modified and not only in Chile. And even its well as was mentioned in my professional sanctions but you know what I want to come to Christians in custody the Catholic Church under this duration and leadership of the late Archbishop Sanabria in Doctor many years ago in a vast ocean education and how you view an

organization it was instrumental in the Catholic Church of Costa Rica in 1946 in launching the counter that it surely wanted own Novato which broke the back of the common is controllable moment and was why no discipline or pillar of the Democratic anti-communist revolution which brought but I see the NFI get us to power in 1948. In Colombia and here perhaps I disagree somewhat from the main speaker professor of scientists in go longer the Catholic Church. Also in 1946 sponsor of the organization nobody used to see you when you're not going to be in work which has become the dominant label going to sion of the country and it is an example in my opinion of the modern constructive type of trade unionism based on the principle of competition between capital and labor. Astle pokes with a Marxist concept of the class. Incidentally what do you do you see Colombia and that I don't know about a macaw study

together with the actual value and the CIO the unions of the West think its own the Canadian labor movement went on longer to fund those old international competition of free trade unions and ot an obvious and got American branch called the Audi. They're not their deity is you want that American are primarily going to organisation in which a Canadian has already played an important and much needed. Remember the trial is another country as indicated by our distinguished because Professor Sanchez where the cup of joe just definitely joined a force of social progress into political and trade union fees. Young Catholic workers organized into church sponsored Jock sureness garlic are emerging these days with promising prospects in Cuba but I why Haiti and other countries I have no doubt that eventually there will be a strong factor in outgoing restore

democracy in those fortune countries. I would like now to call you an attention to detail or Mendel's difference existing between the I your and lower classes economic. This difference is money fast so I was not only in the in the aspect of material well-being but also Indian relationship towards at least one aspect over this difference in my opinion is the content with which manual labor is that he got one can safely state that he lived in America manually is still considered a sort of disgrace. It can as we did as social stigma the middle class is too influenced by display Jews for instance and Irish is the student who finances his way through college by doing manual work or who want to lose my commission for instance as a waiter or busboy.

You know someone who sought in order to save money for this or I have to issue an Ah that explains simply is not so sure would be permissible for a university student with some exception to work with these acts. Many middle and young men and women a working class or lower middle class. Those prevent us from pursuing that intellectual calling. This Gone time for manually worries of course extend to the household. The inability to employ at least one full time domestic servant is considered the social disgrace. As are all the wife of my mind I don't accept Well on average government functionary or even a high school teacher. Just to cite some examples. What are considered a grievous loss of social status to be seen doing or market shopping or he going to be seen kooky. These goes also for the wife of a diffuse skilled workers in the higher paid Backus and apps not in Argentina but I observed Aunt door in

Guatemala and other countries. The occasional mention by a visiting North American at any social getting that a home it gladly house is why for doing the dishes in that you really evokes exclamation of incredulity from is the Latin American audience. By that mass and to see however that a shift in the appraisal of the social value of manual work is taking place in letting America and an increasing temple industrialization is bringing about as more man and woman not to need it to operate the new factories and to man the service establishment that is out of a pool of cheap labor willing to do housework for a mere subsistence is decreasing the monist of the society out of their hole are changing accordingly. Some pollen one of scientists caught a villain made a young monk that I am cut aka

i don't no longer to keep it go see it do so with a gracious lady next to way over leaving of yesterday. The impact of industrialization is forcing upon them a way of life which is bound to decrease the difference between the IAEA and the lower class label who will be getting good a probably warms and therefore Labor would be getting a high rate of police and a corresponding value in the social Iraq. As a corollary to this civilization organized labor for the Stones is no longer regarded it was the case 15 or 20 years ago. In all unlike an American country is no longer to God as a sort of a man to society led by socially untouchable United Ginty note that all colonial Mexico believes in and he even in some Central American countries are going to use the label is now socially accepted. For instance when President I'd bet it was you not come out of local on

this issue in the United States and asked it better. He came of it on official Endora which included we'd better and call them best included we've got a mess you know. The two top labor leaders obviously can't let me go to ladies and gentlemen by voicing my belief that we can i would a genuine sort of vanity of the Americas. It will be impossible for the Western world to whose culture we belong to face and overcome the Greyman totalitarian menace of the day. We need the people of the Americas North Central and South to me and I think an Anglo-Saxon used to classify as belonging to two conflicting civilizations one quality the other one. Time and put on notice every bird that Linus of the medication assuming that they have a cyst the two

civilizations are no longer divergent. They have in fact become entirely locked into the penned they out of two pillars of strength and importance support of the same Christian culture on their strength and out of money. Depends therefore in my opinion the sanitation of the Western world. Thank you Mr Ahmadi. Unfortunately we've not only had quantity in our discussion but we labor under very severe limitations of quantity and we have now reached the period reserved for questions. The procedure is very simple. Nothing to feel scary about there are two gentlemen one another. Either I will direct one to the first outstretched hand that reaches my attention

at the back of the hall please. Mr. Chairman I think Dr. Sanders is too distinguished a visitor to leave on molested and those wondering if you would tell us the role that men of letters like himself has played in the development of so-called Latin American life. And secondly whether he would explain why the concept of the rule of law still seems so foreign in so called Latin American countries when in this hemisphere other transplanted societies like the United States Canada

and the British West Indies seem to have this concept firmly grasped and seem to want to practice it very much. Dr. Satcher very simple and you know this. Well very frankly seems to me that the most of our intellectuals are now and the impact of the coming is propaganda. We have a great deal of intellectuals mostly at universities that are in some ways fellow travelers. It is hard to say but it's true. So which would be the war against the response. If they do these execute

maybe we need a long a clinician. Back to some words. Seems to me that from the Eastern world intellectuals Aris even some that intellectuals like very much some stimulants and most of all some prices. As the Eastern world seems to be in this intellectual way of thinking the world of the future Dave I don't know if my pride for pride of fear they are thinking in terms too. Don't be back in this way. As a matter of fact seems to me that fortunately there is a number

of intellectuals. Unfortunately no the youngest maybe the mature people who have been sitting in the political fights and will have a great time longer and deeper Springs and how disputing is about social and political fights and they are fighting against these new trends of the younger intellectuals. But it's a fact that our universities are now much more day by day populated by fellow travellers. It's a fact. A second question lease where America is correct.

Oh I was asking why it seems that the concept of the rule of law is foreign in Latin America. As other people have set up new societies in this hemisphere like to have it seem to me that now the recent increase in the rule of law in Latin America. Five years ago 40 years ago. Most of our countries. The only rule we had was the will of a man or the will of the group. And now scenes in 19 at 55 there are a number of countries in which law means there will of the majority or at least the will of law. Good or bad. Seems to me that the beginning

maturity of a new democratic train in our life. Carol has a question for Mr. Amaldi. Do you consider sir that the growth of the power of Argentinian labor movement is fascist in essence for the support of their own and not democratic. There is no question in my mind of that from 1948 to nineteen fifty five and one that's even from 1946 to 1955 the labor unions in Argentina where it completely dominated by poor own and where use is as an instrument for destroying the freedom of the country. I haven't timed it but all want to have a law passed that would

curtail the freedom of the people who manage it to have as spontaneous in what is sure Mike a spontaneous demonstration. I don't do you any of the amending that to govern a pass of this law. That's happened when they wanted to close a la pensée. Incidentally in another country that is close to North America does things happen in the last two or three months. Today I would say that illegal to move into a lodge and Tina is still good all being in the dark looking for no way out. The influence it would have been nice to us is still strong. There is no question about if and I thought and we should be conducted to d atmosphere of complete freedom. I have a feeling that depend on the Starwood cat it is not much of what will carry the day if they should go to a period of the economic good we call that are you. So did the increased cost of living would stop and the people would regain some of the lost purchasing power. I have no doubt that the Argentine trade unions

will again be under the influence of a DMA Crikey constructively unis but still a long way to go. Gentleman in front row. Mr Lee addressed myself to you again. You mentioned earlier that Canadians had been active participants in your work in Latin America is particularly relating to labor. In your experience have you found that Canadians have acted with understanding of Latin American problems. Excuse me the term Latin American for one moment or have they behaved with the usual you might say the same behavior as many of our cousins south of the border here. Well I would say even the Canadian trade unionists still do not diverge very much from America but all of them are below the border as a matter of

fact. Some of them belong to the same International Union. I would see in all sincerity that the contribution of the Canadian labor movement. Since 1940 he fighting they joined in the cold the Tiahrt see join a convention that was held in Victoria British Columbia and 1948 which I had leverage on addressing a joint American confirmation really one which was finding the senior Lima Peru in January 1948. Then later on that I should be Canadian Congress really were jawing at the Audi engine away at it in 1951 but it disappeared actively. Why nobody delegates to this conference one of the people who is supposed to be a discomfited Mr. Jim goody. The Canadian director of education for the picking out what it was for two years stationed in Mexico City as assistant secretary general what did they our party going to be affected I would say in the last stint in Jamaica

in breeches Yanna and in many other parts as they receive a tremendous hymn protests from the Canadian brothers and. Influence is extending now gradually to like you know me and let me see this often when we have a quarrel between the Latinos and the people of the United States. So how Weatherly is Mr. Donald McDonald over there is Mr. Clodd job to Wayne or any other people they seem to be excellent mediator between the Latinos han the Yankees. So that's why I know him that is why we wanted to get needed to be with us and to remain more active than ever. Well that's very interesting indeed. Gentleman in the front row without the fact that even with the members the planet cannot be the star of the man. They have said so I think I should like to bring

in now that point of view in this matter because reality so must be some days on that concept which is not completed in abstract or vague. It is not the language it is not the Israelis. If it is not the events of the blood we must look for something else and I think. It will raise on debt. The concept of Latin America is the deep rooted feeling in all the people who are not in America. Come on. He studied the destiny we have the feeling that our destinies to come online in the history that comes from the time when we had a bar where we had a strong style of our liberty and we help each other and this is totally appropriate in our independence from that moment was

born the concept of a he started destiny and I think that it will be something for the existence of Latin America I think concept. Thank you. This is rather a simple question but I was interested in knowing if there is much movement between the peoples of the various Latin American countries or interest in learning about each other towards closer integration of monks and sales. Would you care to mention that diverted. There is no question that we don't intend to know when each other better. But Joe graffiti is not on our side. You look at the map you will find out what is living in Mexico and has to go to Chile or vice a versa

has to have a tremendous amount of movement among it to to take the trip. This same scene applies to the means of communication my way of books magazines and so on is better difficult to get a Mexican magazine in but no side is forcing me. And there we leave the discussion of the second session of this year's coaching conference on the Latin Americas. The speakers were Luis Alberto Sanchez professor of literature University son Marcos Lima Peru set off you know Rome wildy AFLCIO in her American representative Washington and had a menial Patel Villa professor and Secretary Instituto cultural coo Bonnell not Americano Havana Cuba. Chairman William crim Canadian writer and broadcaster. To

morrow evening you will hear had a menial Patel the law again as main speaker on the subject of revolution. Copies of a booklet containing the speeches may be obtained shortly. At one dollar and fifty cents per copy by writing to University of Toronto press Toronto Ontario. The conference is organized jointly by the Canadian Institute on public affairs and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. The program produced by Christina McDougal technical operations by John Skelton. This is Bob Wilson speaking from Lake Ontario. Listen with us again tomorrow evening. This is CBC Radio the Trans-Canada network.