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Where the problems are with. Her or her little girl. You are a jerk. Well I think. He said here say what you mean mistake. Prayers are sounding me right to specifics and operate. But. I would certainly suggest it would be a healthy thing for. The. Operators to take more interest in the audience in terms of people. I think they often sit in the ivory towers of the cities. And. Speak in. Very unlike. Her. And you can lay the thing. I think with a whole set yesterday about programming. The. Majority minority is a good thing to remember. I think it's a healthy thing in a respect for. The stations to be subsidized by their universities. They don't have to worry

about. Healthy thing because they know. It. Is a healthy thing. While. I think it keeps people. Created and alive. And industrious. And I would like to see some of the radio people get out. And talk to the. Man on screen and the people. There for a living you know hard. And. Get some of the feedback. The community. And it will help them in their programming. And I think it would be a healthy thing for the mutiny. Today we feel more. Hard headed. I think it's unfortunate that a lot of JM. Educational right yesterday are not. A listening minded a lot of them are. Allowed to know realize the need of telling other people about what they're doing their programming. They're very nice little. Warm studios. And that they really program for

themselves. More than. For. People. And I think somebody has them like it's Earth Day. Get out in the morning community and. Do some documentaries. Do something that they could. There are people making any talking and. It be a healthy thing. But. It isn't always money you know. It is also why. Industriousness and I heard that in connection with television. And now. It's. Creativity that's it's a term that's overheated and. It's acting cases but to take a fresh look there. At the audiences both that you're serving in the ones that conceivably might be scary. And do this not eventually but do this invasively. Because these are the times for change Magi really are a maybe realistically.

I dismiss it. As an outsider to me that the theme of this conference has been never smart education really to discover what is their role in the world especially in terms of programming. And at this time the serious media technology of radio. Is way better than the program we're talking here about the possibility of the swearing in. Family Radio said. That one of them we have met at this conference. Dana I just got off. Well it's like. Device that you five channels. Or. One FM station. Who would wish for that kind of educational opportunities. Out the way I gather from the discussion. There are four kinds of programming now going on a station the radio. Is the third program cultural thing. Experimental radio like the big growing

up little girl here yesterday. Community service a special time of the interview between the girl from the south her file. And. Instruct. Either classroom instruction or continuing instruction for the public at large. You know. My question is that the only fully developed. Program materials are enough for children. Right. Now we've got a lot of those a lot of you know. We have a lot of culture programs available and not much. Care to broadcast hours in the way. Community service in a Russian experimental radio. Shows she said. That Here is a place recreation rated catch up with the technology to be. There and and work on finding its relevance in terms of these underdeveloped program areas. Already And it came up short our session yesterday was that of a kind of a predication

among a radio station. Which I think would be good if it could work. The FCC is a sort of substitute for that now that is licensing part. Of the problem is that when a student myson role in a college or university is important to him that that be an accredited institution because he wants the president to greet the listener doesn't necessarily have it in the hands of a real pressure. On the station because I really. Think that here while I don't know I think it is a good idea that you have practical right now. Like Somebody else he has shot out is. In the third program or we already have programs in the instructional area seems to me a production center be useful. But first Colonel radio and Community Service radio these are almost necessarily seen to be isolated local operations which which could then. Maybe have wires or rebroadcast. And I don't know. I don't know how either

instruction or. Community service can go on without a rather highly developed cooperation with other agencies other educational agencies school systems and so on for instruction. And need as far as university itself again to destruction. But with the people with the people in that unity in the service. I think ultimately. The reason is no pressure on Congress to help. Radio station Radio. Is everything that isn't helping ease it is that it would be hard as other callers suggested last night. It's a very small minority of over service people already who are getting the benefit of all that their programs. And educational radio and they have the means to get it somewhere else. Their drive. So that if educational area was to survive in a relevant way it seems to me that it ought to be in the early reaches members of the community not now served in any

way and this will be at the other spectrum the other end of the spectrum. Of the community and I mean the poor. Let's face raising this question the work of the universities. Might react in attempting to. Identify underprivileged judges to treat the police it's lovely if they were helped in this project upward by the other in a Specter and Leahy operation to start the youngsters again out there for the background. Do you see anything out of the special delivery system the personal opening of the listing that as he's already a living to help in these areas. I think radio has an tremendous tremendous advantages here. For one thing. The radio teacher teaches these kids cannot possibly in any way reveal a prejudice against any particular kid. Every kid hears it the same way and I think I have very good teachers in our schools very often the disadvantaged child has a

hard time. With teachers who. Who just don't reach it. Also there are some sort of feedback from these kids in the way that the talk shows are doing commercial radio people call them. This will provide a variable by the certain anonymity to the card which will be a great advantage for these years. So you'd probably provide because it. Shows us who they are. So in this area I think yes is a possibility for a fish a real being of a lever. To the numbers of people out of the. Carriage. That the stream is far enough. Nothing about the money situation itself but the habits of thought and fear that accompany poverty or the recession really made a great breakthrough there. He was. Just like. Oh I have this I like.

This I think this is. OK but you know I see. Someone out there by their greatest ways out of his way to how can you talk you know and their face being in the confrontation with another personalities. Get. In the. Ring. This. Year. Maybe in the beginning it might help them learn a thing. I have known other hack a headband I'm sorry because he said he's coming back. In that life no more and more about when but. When he said in that remarkable presentation this morning you know when it mentions anything about how the drug. Itself. And I do think that I feel that I know as I have

I have. This. Education Television that first there is no job media drama. And since the. End it doesn't. Last. Forever. Doesn't mean. That. In many cases it. Is. And why the problems of the Internet yesterday in the U.S.. As it was not with them. And I think that I believe I have. Written that. I'm not afraid. Of my colleagues So all of these. Many of these problems long as I get along the sums of money for. Doing say certain things they very often will do in life. Do. You know programs in the US. I don't think you have too much difficulty if the material is there. That is the. Main is no. It's not it's not till it was his right.

Hand. And. The sense of love partnership possible here if you were dead. Well I think so yes I do things in my hell that we normally don't think of as Except that I was an excellent He's amazing. That's true because reasons you find so many so many so many people do work. I mean they're doing their thing when you know the civil rights movement. They say they go on a plane ride here. And. There. And more they want to go. On. And on. And it goes on. I mean no one knows anything but I know that my brand does narrations you live a long time. Telling. Me. That. You think their efforts could be candid with you CAN WE.

Get beyond the ending if the material was there on the tape. I mean it isn't it isn't anything that you can that you can you know that you hear it you can say. I know that I was it and you know what I found here was something that I'm. Not. Worthwhile. Cause. Is just that and I think I think by now. Are you really as he is in his first year I mean he's just taken a backseat to mold. It's. I don't think that. That's all there is no one should also I think that that that radio. Is behind a man like that radio Island telling me I was breaking up. Because it's more exciting is the harvest in many ways. Also it's a movie and you can move it around a woman and women. Are reachable

because they say they can take it from one room to another and move with it you know have to sit and watch. Still you can't be fired. Some do and they do manage to. Get. Get something. And. I think I've never had. A friend says that. And I know a lot about. Some. Things. You know the whole business of. Programming for a living as people instead of women and women. Every race are yours in a feed and to begin to. The children are out of the home and there's a little time. To be able to engage in conversation by means of radio. Which seem to me that. The second life the moment passed in the life she wants to do some other things that she has not been able at the time. There are all sorts of names and all I'm

doing that can take place. With a connection with the school I just suggested. About appreciation. For sure. Down. To education radio. I wonder if it might be useful to think about the possibility of separating. Educational radio as a public service. Idea from student radio. Leave the excerpt from the Orestes Weaver was apparently a student production. And I think it's important to students be able to do that and they have an audience for it. But is it that if the channel through which they must do that is educational radio. Then educational radio gets a kind of a black eye because like countless forms are like. Oh they're there too soon. Maybe maybe there ought to be a fairly clear division in educational

radio operations between these two kinds of things. That one is not necessarily. Different operating stations. But. Clearly define different programs. For different purposes. That shows that in the public mind it would all be lumped together as I think it is now. Well there might be we don't yes we hear it and a half hour studio actually counts that live in RTI right now. I suspect it's an excerpt from this record it's downstairs. On display by the fireplace the University of Michigan. When the above is the girl ready. To go with the guy that doesn't know whether. He loves firings it was not known and oh we'll guess what. Oh and madge played very well but you reacted to it because the

part where there was so much pain it was a lie and I was doing radio years ago you were never supposed. Not in the humor for those he was all there with Oh yeah he could dance like. The trend. And while we're on the subject I don't. Have. Your Precious Love. Conference. Suddenly town. Every time I hear persons you think. Well. We can only listen to him or. Her for half an hour. I've had this impression. For some. Currently educational radio. And I know. It's not and. Told me they were talking resource. But they. Are you know not where.

Resource. Potential. Times of our. Culture although. You know the richness and also for Community Action. Not clear just. The techniques of community actions for the radio life. Are rather right I guess I should get a general idea how or how they would work out specifically I'm not sure. And. Therefore. If we have here a tremendous. Potential tool. And yes I'm aware. And you have at the same time scattered. Scattering people with this tool. Where. Each one of us operating on our own little here. May not be aware. Of some of the. Great developments taking place

somewhere else and therefore greatly in need of interchange. Julie I. Have three recommendations that is that every European needs a Wingspread conference. Very well said the country. And. Community. Are you ready to do that. You know country where you are really you count out your new. Power Structure leadership but leadership. There is something that happens in the conference that you have reached. It takes awhile to shake down. You get the catalyst to work. And. So that would be one way. You know there is that. But I think we desperately need an intercessor. We're calling the protection center but it's more of the research center say

Exchange Center. And. Our. Creative mind of work are going to. Develop far beyond anything we're thinking about. Right now. Justin and I and I you know. I'm. Quite against the suggestion for thought it might. Have been a home receiver. I'm not sure I don't know what we call a background the. UHF. Law was but. I suspect part of it was the fact that here were a lot of channels. And it was a potential that it couldn't possibly be developed unless you're such. That we don't have access if you wish. I mean Mr. Novak said there is no problem here. In fact if you just watch the radio industry is going to do everything I can to promote Af-Am sass now because of the fact that.

I got put on the program is very different from their AM program to look. Republicans before. They have almost as much of a subagent risk here it really bothers me just like. I think that. We lost Iowa man in a party he forces should follow here rather than we who. Are your role now sort of get a good group running to Congress and ask you as to legislate our conception of what we need. To do that is. Well if you had asked me to make this big yesterday morning when I came in here I can maybe. Say. In my writing the education process is going on here since I stepped. Through. I could bring the Doctor Spencer said. A large extent. But yes some other things. First

life in my mind I've been here in D.C.. I got the idea that the trainee centers for national martial radial. Are mostly in colleges and universities. And. He. Said. There. Seemed to me to little thought as being into the program which is emanate from these rockets sent me. We are taking the party any way shape or form. We're out of it for me. We should not be just trying to entertain people. This. Very house at least you bring up where you kinda educate. Very very back to what I said was case one. Wherein you are forced to a bit of information our thinking and our behavior has changed. So that we are now then sanctioned or treated nothing else. I fear

for the other man that we've got the right information with a change of thinking and if you hate people. Now it seems to me that. One of the problems in doing this is the word prestige border regions. College president because of pressure from one eye pressure groups are not willing to do to get a stand on certain controversial. And therefore try to improve the quality. Education. Can visit the city. Now. If. You have these strange senators and house break in order to tolerate cans just yet. The phrase the day may come when the government will step in. And require some kind of control. I'm not for a minute there clear enough for governmental control but I think in every instance where the government has stepped in to control whatever it is they have done done

it because there is an abuse or vacuum which has not been filled and we have not risen to the occasion ourselves there for the government. Yes they are listening. Rob. I believe there's occasional radio here in the powerful media in the pool educational and. If we do not do it on a free private basis then the government will eventually rise. Just as in a local school district there was a lot of talk about the wonderful educational program perhaps. And wanting to serve or education at the local level. In most cases your rationalization of what their mother really oppose do is only education cases. I can understand the tax rate or the fees for property is involved in trying to make a point. By this analysis. Now of the

federal government becoming convinced that. The educational process is not what it should be and they have entered the picture. Words will stop we don't know. I think and I have said this for many years. We don't clean up our educational program at local level. There. They're all gone I think the same thing. Want to find the situation to educational radio. It is as informed as we think it is and I think it is that I don't think we can. And I I really believe that if there's coordination. That. The education really only become a part of the periphery of the public school. During the school doing just as educational TV is to a certain extent because in certain areas of creativity holding the mind and not setting up limitations with the visual aspect because many

times a visual. That. This this. Point. So there will be certain instances where the creator of the radio be superior to the audio visualize the video. Also I can see where there were the rock or a log set up provided to the teachers that they would make homework assigned to this just to meet certain. Programmers. But this is assuming that it is of high quality. When your teacher suggested a child of anything when he turned out to be. Worth. Listening. To. So live the song. Try having the right change. Thank you. For. Hard. Work. But. At least or maybe you're thinking more of my career. You. Know that. In the Indian language in the language of

Congress. Tonight passed. In my view I'd like to come up with a country full of resident to have that become the official discussion and. Not some of this play out and passionately different. I've heard very marked made before but it should be clear that the station program but it was biased and by others. I don't know whether that would be wise psychological funny you. Provided this to her. Under the guidance of a professional. And I think it would be a very worthwhile to feel them integrated into a real professional radio work and this one there are a self-confidence I think much better that they are immediately feel a responsibility

and the need to live up to professional standards. Well this is an introductory remarks coming back to the subject of a production sense that has been there since before this send of it more than one for nothing. It would have been muffled. First of all as the production said it would already have multiple tasks that use drama producing documentaries introducing new was better. During the school doing just that education he is Mr. thing because in certain areas of creativity holding on mining not setting up on occasion. With the Vision Life has many times the visual aspect. Of this.

This morning. So there will be certain instances where the creator a regular piece of gear are. Truly out of the video. Also I can see where there were a rock or a log set up provided to the teachers. That they were leaving next Homer to sign with the union. Server. Programmers. This is assuming that it is of high quality. When your teacher suggests child anything when he turns out to be. Worth. Listening. To. A live new song Try having the right change. I think you. Work. Hard. But. At least three or maybe you're thinking more of my reaction. To. Know that. In the Indian language in the language of the Congress. And I passed. My view that

life is enough. With a country of. Residence to have that become the official discussion and not some of this play out and passionately here today for. I heard the remark made before that this should be a clear distinction between program or if you will by and by others first. I don't know whether that would be wise psychological funny you. Provided this to her. Under the guidance of a professional. And I think it would be a very worthwhile to feel them integrated into a real professional radio work. At this point there are so cocky I think much better that they are immediately feel a responsibility and the need to live up to the professional standards. Around as

an introductory remarks. Coming back to the subject of a darshan fence that has been said before this side of it more than one thing it would have full function. First of all as a production sense. It would already have multiple tasks that use drama producing documentaries to do sing.