Hodge Podge Lodge; Cooking without Pots & Pans

Oh. Yeah. One way. Well maybe not. Hi. Have you ever gone on a camping trip and forgot to take your frying pan or your kettle to boil water in the world today. I invited my friend Maurice Sullivan to come and build a fire and show us lots of ways that you can cook without pots and pans. Welcome to hodgepodge. Rod Solly. I was there that I think that if you're going to do a lot more than show us how to cook without pots and pans I see you have have all kinds of interesting foods from the wilds. Like I'll try full of knots myself and berries around here. What are you getting ready to do now.

Well I'm going to cut this squash into small pieces and put it on here along with some meat. Call that these are my friends Pam and Ricky. I am glad to meet you. Review nice to see you. Have you ever had a fish kabob cooked on a stick. Well now there is one way to cope without power and use a stick. And you can just use any old stick and use only. No it's better to at least stay away from cheery cheery gives quited. He used the maples are always good and it's easy to tell Maple. Because it's one of the three kinds of trees. It has a Twiggs opposite like yours on your head you know the children and we want to have three kinds of trees around your like at the maples in the dogwoods and neither one of them will give a taste to the opposite that you say like the ears on your head. That's a good way to remember your ears are opposite and so are the branches on a maple. We're going to cut those off and from the first take on all that's good to know. Opposite. And. Yes I think Loki is worried about the

steak. Yeah I didn't get ashes on it but the ashes are like salt I mean that's a mineral matter left in water hurt your face and know several brush off. I am too worried about that. I can see that they have never and I never cooked theirs and I didn't like it. It isn't the best way to do steak to be a little brown in some places might affect I got to turn and I think right now I'd better turn it on one more thing about the stick in the sides being a good stick that doesn't have a bad flavor it also has to be a green stick right right. If you try to cook a marshmallow hotdog with a dead stick and the stick just burns right into and there goes your food into the fire so that doesn't look so bad does it. Minerals I mean you pay extra money you brought down the drugstore to get your extra minerals. When we look at your tongs and cut it they're a little bit been there on one side. I like that song that you didn't have to buy nice green tongs as that maple to that's maple to yet and you may

wonder where you cut this I go along under these power lines so where they cut every once in a long anyhow. So you want some farmer's bracer. But some places are going to cut back on the telephone line or a power line or go where they're making a shopping center a house and they cut down thing bulldoze them up you always find things that only good you can get hot corn out of a kettle. Yeah but you have to change every now now you wouldn't couldn't use us for a lifetime. Oh no no not a fact this is simply sort of way in history with a point where we better turn in a little bit. Oh no that's not burning that's just getting good marks right. Yes I have a nice popcorn taste. Now tell us about the National Fire I like that I just write right here you know so no flames their children feel like you have to flame as to cause you need good hard dry wood like our beech hickory is the best you can get. Maple is good. Let them put out the fire get a lot more smoke than heat too

and it affect me more than anything else. You agree with her more. Taste good but you and your use will cause a smoke from Will it make your eyes already burned. But beach is a beater and was a smooth gray bark on it like this chopping block there you see I have this great bark and how long and how long before you need the fire and you need to start all depends on the size you would see a couple would split it about the same size about two to three inches across. So all morning down Nasdaq up like this like a log cabin and almost burned down the same time in the center of the little pyramid just started and I find my bark mightily and first pick and so forth and I build this log in all more or less burns down at the same time. But you need to have all your wood about the same size too. And about half an hour not more than that depends on when the breeze of a breezy were no more faster than an otherwise you see. And how much would you have on there how big a fire you want there are things like that now when you call in like that. You're also through a corn right in like that and

the outside will kind of burn and there are there are large look in and say Yes yes and you don't need the outside anyway. Yes throw that away. And here's something that a lot of people use for their corn. And when I looked up and they went in they put it. Now this does a good job but can you think of some things you ride and when you throw your corn hoss away what happens to them. They they turn turn back into the soil don't they they have their bio degradable you know that were they put the corn and just wrap it up they put their blood right. Right. Of an aluminum foil is nice but there are a few things you have to worry about about. What do you do with it after you're through cooking. What do you play. Well I'm sure somebody has some ideas about that. What do you need to pray for that you just take in your own hands and

need it. I suspect my take is getting about done here. So those Remember if you take a trip bring it home where you put it in your trash can only get out in the woods to get scattered around in a record environment. Of course if you are really worried about a page you just take a piece of bark. Well there you are Pam. Nice work Mark played. It out there on that warm rock to keep warm there. Then I saw you put some rocks in that fire. Yes yes. Oh no not to keep them they help hold the fire that's right but also something else. But what you know what that water is you know that. Yeah. Yeah I've heard of you better you better get away let me know what you think that is there. Look at that one I think that I listen.

And you're right if you think you could take that little hand that he's made out of a gourd and put it right on the fire what would happen if you put this on the fire. It would catch on fire because it's dry. So can you see the bubbling there boiling. Rocks in there still boiling. Oh listen to that. And want to see what does it sound like you know. It's our it's probably a lot like the volcano what's going on there is only coming out like. Hot Rocks and women stay here. That's good right. It's not amazing that it's hard enough to make the water boil but not hot enough to catch the gourd on fire.

Or crickets going swimming. What you see that. Gore doesn't get any hotter than the hot water. Would you turn 12 degrees and the girdle burned about 450 or 500 degrees. Oh yeah wouldn't happen. You know the school off. Well he would have several rocks would have put more on some of the water. Put the rocks in the water. There's still enough heat in those rocks the. Water I think where you will get cooler than you and you put more rocks you have quite a few in there you see. Now what would you what would you need hot water for. If you're out in the woods. But now we have all those nice hot water what can we do with it. Why should you take a bath. How about having a cuppa tea. Or soup or something like that. There is how you get what cooking squash in there. Why not. Are. Are some of these new potatoes even a small potato your potatoes are really great. That seriously red potatoes.

I thought you were crab that I know I got those women neighbors but they're so nice where I eat them skins and all you know. I've heard that down in South America where blue potatoes will probably happen. Yes but it isn't hot enough I don't know you are sure you can drop in there about that. That isn't quite body not only did we have to those rocks. Well I don't know how many have got in there you want another rock in there. We're going to take those out because they've lost their heat. And still quite hot. Putting anything on the fire. I could do that in this birch bark up you know to oh isn't that that's a real genuine Indian made the water in their water which is like a little drink out of a birch bark cop that can for a minute that you don't look at like that if it wasn't going to have a few ashes in it. No lead on the fire. I think a few blew over from the fire that's a good point in this. You put a

racket here. Well you don't have that many rocks I've been told this is what you want. Maybe I would like a drink out of birch bark and I do it. Do you want to rock in there. Yes you know I mean if you're going to want to a little dangerous. Yes right right there. That's a big draw. Now you're her hot water already to put in your order in this corner where you see that this was probably done and you've got a circular to turn that around your head like that. Turn the other side. And you put things like you might have to eat it raw is it. That's why it's good to start young with if you're used to eating with plates and knives and forks when you're learning.

If you're hungry enough it wouldn't bother you at all you have to learn to feel comfortable. Pretend you were in India you know and try to think back in the old days when they didn't have all the fancy stuff we have now they didn't like this place. Boy you know they like what they want to eat right they look around where they live and found the things that were good things that Sally has and those are good to eat exactly. I'm good on the cake I've had to. And so I brought all these different kinds of not so you could see the difference differences. Yeah but you have to be sure Jordan one is poisonous air. All right you know you see that I'm right and that you cook when you're drunk you crack up again not that I here's a Black want but just came off the tree and has a soft heart reach over and feel that. Softball and you have to hold the whole thing.

Much great and you have to check and make sure lattes have really good knots inside when the hole comes off when you get dry not like this when you cross need it. You need to wait for at least. Now that the lawn that is the good the wreck I'm glad you picked that up. We have a nice collection here you have to know which ones are good and they have what has that I only see it as a big spot on it there on one side another I don't have that. And do you know I just learned how you got the name of that but you probably have known that for year because it looks like a box of stuff in the mail dear. Right you know put it in your eye a bird camera it's a deer saw a box. So I didn't know that Bill just the other day someone far you see I need a little more fire down under I don't understand now because I had an mistake so I just take the green steak and work it down here and I turn that over. The nice thing about these not that you don't have to cook for them right.

Well that's that's a filbert in there. No I'm not a student of a builder that's with ACORN and the Indians a lot. And these are broader not they're another kind of called white on the robot or not. We've got like yeah they're like the Buckeyes but they're getting more and I'm not. Well that's a special ACORN were you going to rock. Look at that. Oh good ass only that when I go get a room. Well that's that's an acorn oak tree as a special time as a big cup no don't take it out that would mean that where you see it all together. That's all part of the part of the cost. Now you have to do something to acorns before you can eat them don't you. They're very bitter because you can take acid and what people do that they pound them up. And cook them and then threw the water away a couple of times and that dissolves a tiny gas it out and then they have about the same food cornmeal and the Indians use them a lot and I made a flower out of

a mush you see here. Just don't go around cracking acorns and those are not very good for you to show them how that and how the hickory nuts were hard then got to the hickory nut Oh I'm sorry Harrison actually not that has had the hospital. And here's here's the one that wasn't showing the house that's right that's how Africa. Is so it's easier to get off the wall and if you if you want your food to take to taste good you put these on the fire there and get some smoke from a you know you go to the grocery store you see hickory smoked ham in hickory smoke they can buy little bags of wood too and this is now lots of kinds of them. And I do live down south in Georgia in Alabama Mississippi and I was like that. You probably find a lot of this kind of not razor hands which is a kind of mystery nut right related to the wicker nuts and that is a hickory nut. And the hall comes off. But we. Know that isn't it. That's a hickory nut and here's the big can you can see how they look at you can see they're all because they're just different kinds

of the same. Yeah. But the cans along with them got open those because they only want to sell you're right he has a lot of them but they're there and it was very rare in here to the base not quite know whether or not. What else do you gather to eat out of the wild off in your life and that all these. Let's see if I've got ready and Janet and I have never tasted our wild cranberry fresh from the rod and reel or purple right. We'll take one. It'll be a little sour but not bad. But just think how good it is for you. Although not now raw you could have one. So if you could make a face like ham. So he doesn't get so bad. I probably had something just like that down brew. So when you make your cranberry sauce at home about a foot lots of sugar in

probably much better for us if we can get used to eating in this way. It's just like Ricky says it's all in getting used to things that do get a voice. I did guess course you know and cut it up and dried in the sun are all the more you would take a piece of that taste pretty good is going to see me. Sure you can soak it up and cook good honest games all the time because one's own not right. Yeah that came out of this boy. Looks like the out of Iraq. It is you know in the old days before people had refrigerators and freezers and things like that they had to dry a lot of things like that them. Too fast and so can your mouth go back to Morse and. Say isn't much better for you than having a. Much more healthy. That's better turning these things your here in America. I'd like not. Look at that nice piece of meat there you know I get looks better.

That's the first time I ever had dried squash. Now you've got a whole meal there. Got your potatoes for starch in your meat for protein and corn is yellow so it has some vitamins in it. I got some potato potato in there you see I could have put more on there. We just overdo it take more sticks you see with them in different angles. Right and what's what's in that jar there that looks interesting and dry those are dried mushrooms nowadays mushrooms you found out in the woods you know not under this door when they have a spacer on they get a little brown down there and I cut them into and put them in the oven or out in the sun and they dry then I make a soup out of them are are soaked in water. But the mistake here. You can put that yes you can put them right in there so yeah there. Are not as good of your you can get that when you're not litter moistening a bit like chewing gum.

Just like a little piece goes this isn't as good as a score that you can you can buy them already dried they're very some people string them on scratchings. Well it's all I reckon I can run just like you so you have to get used to some of these new foods if you don't have every day. And then you add some dried you get so many interesting things. I think. I don't. Now these wild berries or wild blueberries I picked in Maine. And put up on the roof. Very small Now if they're dry but you know they were blueberries. Aurora. That's right a little taste better. Now how did you drive selling them out on the roof or in the sun for plate where they have to bring in everything mean every night right. You can do apples to apples implement the song my dessert now. Oh

it's all right you know you want to have your art. It's like a drive. I think he's ready for another cranberry. Yeah. Oh you don't like the Larry doesn't know what's good. Those can be used to you know they're not making muffins out of them or put them on pancakes. Or you know what was good. Was really going to sample this take some gas I thank you both. Thanks so much. Well that's coming up. Example this corn right. And this is going to be straight no bought or Oh it's hot chocolate covered for three pieces. Well we give. Them a cut and you've got the right tools here. It's still hard oh I bet Aurora loves all this. They got this one and a half and I'll give a laurel mini's. He loves corn.

Well. I'll give a rule that he's. So hot. I think that's John has a taste. I did. And I used to. We used to drive on the farm when I was a girl. All we had big hands that you had steam underneath a pretty good in that one room. Well shall we. Say we got a piece of meat then you have to eat our dinner of course at a time going to use your room for me for a week here. OK that'll make Pam happy she's worried about plates right. I think you Ricky like another piece. Yes. I am. Oh.

That's good. Just enough that you can you know I can almost taste the hickory smoke. Now. You have piece of charcoal on there. You know put that back and. You break every bit of it comes off so you know why she's on there. That's. Really. Good. And I think it will make a good pioneer out of you yet ready. There's a buy for someone. Right. Don't cut yourself with a knife. That was so hot here and there another bite thinking that perfect longer than you would think inside you know pots and pans. Just keep thinking about is not amazing. I mean you know rethink and look at the way Sally has effects so he doesn't have to stand on things over the fire all the time she's got one long to prop things up just like a

blanket a little piece of ash on the other side just a piece of wood hurt you. Know. And these little arrangements here that hold up the stick. Those are labor saving devices. That means that your family like to go camping now would you like me to tell you another way you can do this. Utensils you dig a hole in the ground. I was a big as a bushel basket so big and so deep ly of rock like that inside. Build a fire in there NEVER burn for an hour or so. Those rocks all hot. And you take you far out as best you can take your corn husks and the inside of that are some leaves off of the tree like an ash tree or maple tree that would taste pretty good when you put your food you know enough top of that and cover with more leaves and corn husks

and the sorriest teams in there. Now do you have to do that overnight. I know but it takes longer take 3 hours to do it. Now beans they do that way of course I would I do that with the beans take a long time to cook corn and squash wouldn't you see. And then would you like me tell you another way you could do it. Sure. Well potatoes and squash you take clay. Looks like mud to me. Yes and you would have agreed on this in it. But it wrapped around potato and put it in the fire and the clay keeps the potato from burning when it gets hot. So you made a little open for it you see. Well I would take that would take some getting used to when you're going that way you wouldn't do your squats I'm done first that way yeah yeah you see going that way. One that's a pretty good uncooked I mean they don't have to be cooked lawyer on a show like yours

he does good at the corner now I guess and they're tired of their turn this over to see how that's doing. Why you think Pam and reckon you can remember some of these ideas to try the next time you can go out on a camping trip and you also have to remember where we have a fire to have a bucket of water to put it out. Somewhere over here is our brother was right. And also before you build it you rake the leaves and everything back and so the rocks around so much and look around where you are and see what you can use without wrecking the environment. Like remember Sally's trick for where he goes to get the sticks. Or does he go along under the power line where they're going to be cut down anyway so you won't be dragging sticks out of the park or national forest use something that's going to be mowed down anyway by the tree trimmers or something like that. Why don't you write it right down and take it along on a camping trip. Yeah right. And look around

for things that you can use that are right there like nuts cranberries blueberries blackberries and about me. Can't worry you. Well I bet you'll be surprised at all the things you found out from Sally today because he's been how many years have you been doing those. Or over 50 or 50 so he's picked up a lot of tricks of the trade and he's a good cook as an ear off for a really long her when you get a call. Yes that's a common name of Buffalo's big. Well. Now this of course. Better taste better be hard to take it on. Oh I think the thing I always do is hot we're going to let that cool off a minute the thing I like the best is cooking in these little birch bark utensils on the board with the hot rocks I think that's in the district. I'm glad you could come the hard way with Priam and record my friend from the National Park Service retired and learn how to

talk using hot rocks to get your water gourd or a birch bark using green sticks drawing from the pike along with and using just my thought coals to cook your steak. Delicious. Come back again. Were were. Were. Were. Way. Way. Way.

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