American Experience; The Murder of Emmett Till; Interview with Rose Jourdain, journalist

rick rick so omniscient as you get tell me how you first about an interviewer i cant imagine in an anonymous painter she's been frozen she was there and it is ms madison avenue in and he was wrong and he will show this week and you know it was it was ebola and then i went out a few minutes later and everybody is talking on the way you're saying it was a very strange time we were americans i read mine warriors soon to be we'll try to see the legal team assembled by turning used in dc with yes there you go there on our show where he's wearing on his core absolutely you're wrong why and there is really an

hour and there is no list unanimously before they were around and hear it lasted eight right now and it already being out there in it you know was the trigger to the civil rights movement in the air you can grate some questions i think that that one hundred and three questions of the audience it was great it was great but as wonky and the kind of these interviews three different things so i'll wasn't and if you cannot name the names of hasty and was going to suspend much of

you know nineteen fifty four fifty five as an activist in times of the whole thing because in andover furled to back if you can ken can refer back to what you said before because we might not usually survive so every year and say we question has to be kind of a new new beginning some yesterday's was collectively before with those optimistic time to pass an unusual kind of titles and black america well at brown versus board decision to come down by the americans are leaving the game too a pistol or all of the equality are they really only hours on and they were not doing that these were gay

or you were is regime are right now he's out with a plane arrived in their collective sigh he now be right there is what was the reaction among them and it would mean years old so you feel so what was the reaction i hear your heart cry i mean they revolted and they were determined and i feel that that is the you know is it in the beginning of the civil rights movement were because it as a whole beach the works as a whole the whole nation we're on iris it was hilarious tell me about

how was the pictures were taken or david jackson and you can you know just telling a story don't have to if you can tell us without saying a lot of you know and then he told me on it and i wasn't there but just tell me as a star you know doesn't have you know i mean it doesn't have to be laundered percent what happened it's it's a story you're telling me what's the story that you've heard of the pictures he had taken this contrasts with the very rapid scene and it jackson who is the reporter recounts how are coming out of food barbour county he told me that i'm hanging around several years later when i was working and get a we were

the second phase of it goes to the photograph of dr janssen publishing company you stand in line with their qualms they were going for with his camera hidden in a satchel as lights a nice element in the ear popping walk out thinking actually a night now you knew where he was working it watching it was to try to take back program because the ice that it has written the words and this is progress in race relations in america great great great redheaded to get back in and many sleep at your arm in arm an

assembly line his opinion he came back door and this is raising sea ice are a kind of idiot to do that he had to ask me and it really i think red plastic guess it out in the classic sense of the year you know is an appetizer i think the army are broken oh really you snuck in the back door and it was interesting do it for a society has to this again but comes to have a famous and a dip for americans think

over at he came in he said online various people who were going in to pay respects and to use of laughter and he and his audience all of the nation get a plastic they say on how eu a nice scene room and he can because he knew as he sat there way americans do not want to see that photograph you at your funeral and can satisfy its yet lessons here is centered around passed it to get autographs and was no and he

became one of the insane or the job that contract with the one of the narrow aisle you're great choose who was bored and loses their life in life it had an enormous impact on when there are mass firings at that time were saying with me progress so far student waiting working at the ports so you're so steadily towards equality but this session then they are these things were not a lot of growth you should just do what people

are editing yourself as an occasionally wrong my question so you say you know those are your weekend we can surely one syllable word that you know those uniformed on what works you say that before we talk there that this along the first picture that was bought by a white magazine you just coming in first for x errors to the law is why is the latter part of corporate law publication and we're here in nineteen eighteen e a spine where gabby has that time why

americans were way a black or wrong for the quality surely reports oh ok americans were moving more slowly that and stir it is it is our family now we're here you know they they were before your time and is that and clearly right here is now he's been to pittsburgh do you remember

your reaction i was very adolescent not get a really a catalan i had that i was the only a nanny i heard i heard this you know everything's going to be ok so true and why schools are my eye and i heard every time there was a protest that you know then the black votes to mainland at that there was nothing really love the sense that any eu were clara i have a journalism school and i mean that's exactly it

and it was just i was there was it was there a civil rights movement it was reasonable for him something distant there were there was there were your protest square protester up america but there was that have galvanized for things that in terms of the legal system i'll let this be says the creators of this is that being any area americans view of the climate do you say that our destiny is only your ears is entirely unfit arm you grew up in madison but that's very close to chicago so called

arm was allegedly was it was anything into carlo prepare somewhat for mississippi and yeah i used a portion out it that chicago and la where it is caucus and that was not known as a city with a great training this as if it were black people black people lived they are raising their own and i think they all applicants were already hear our series and he could not be

and is in the same way as in represent fifty it'll be interesting to know about iran and its ceo he and the white press and how finally he was due to explain how this case finally made the white press pay attention to black people i think that i have it with me it at the repercussions of brown the bartender court cases were beginning to doubt and it was just too in a possible to ignore it uses an active players right here in the air here day care that and what they had their office in the sermon and believability

among even hear the journalists are supposed to be objective i'm looking at some of the footage some of the journalist's revenge asking leading questions for example oh you know thinking that emmett till with his screening and cry that was overheard was being beaten could've been the sounds of pays making always for your eyes get those kinds of the time like this is the end and stuff like that people don't want to leave a true and juana can torture and the irony of the whole situation is it tells an internet activity or by bacteria back again and do the various this is that they were trying to two that are packed away and also it's that this case maybe helps women make or begin the careers of some of the black leaders you know for me quite well that

some people maybe a part of them that maybe this gotten need more international press and i think they asked her self parody in the hearing is that this this atrocity and happened today it was not a reconstruction it was not an end in history it was a time in america and they listened more people speaking out and they were not regular army is it was just sit at attention with me and was it also a regional eritreans maybe if you will that whole you know here we are in the north and that's the south in in a blast digitally and so annoyed in gdansk against chicago new york were progressing in the end it wasn't some sort

of i'm embarrassingly he will only are trying to move away from those routes now and it still happens in it's time to galvanize and realize wow we can't on things are now we have not made it yet i made that any athlete a time for people have a shock yeah it is they you let that you're mine come here for any forces the un use the four colorado at a time it as you're in the workplace enabling it will lead to stay and now i live on

it in the last and horses i hear that now call your lawyer so we are more in the south and they were ruins that you were pretty much does our brutality is an outsider and they expose it away and as a reporter during the time did you see a change of what did you see along i was just going to school in schools that i was asked to go out i came into another kind of situation as well as

journalists the other day were talking which you talked about you can you know that it was a place in history as it relates to the future civil rights movement as the release of the montgomery boycott which which began a hundred days later south it was the way i get it right people's reaction was the bizarre area where they're actually at this is an idea that is probably more than anything else this fire everybody knew we were under attack and that hat with the allies and attack on a fourteen year old boy

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