American Experience; The Murder of Emmett Till; Interview with Mortician Harry Caise

iran ow again let me and just tell me in your stories when did you first hear of emmett till summer after serving an appeals milo roams and i first heard of the materials murder about to two days before received the remains of the day we were notified that the buyer will be a shift a way it sounds the mail we received about it at any cost twelfth street station at the time was known as the icy station at that time also the remaining receive a way in a bubble box we call a wooden

box was shared by a railroad so at that we do see the body robot by two of the film which is that forty one forty one car's grille when will the top fund the wooden box and took the remains out of the wooden box and placed on my truck's textbooks of that time there was work to cost so many lives many many people out there to see this remains the clothes had been broadcast and in the papers the combined it saw war and i want to see how this kid was beaten up and thrown in a water so i had to wield the body up people all around us china sea remains what condition was and so we opened the remains before we contact the family

we told the family that they remained was in trouble state police same so should we asked her mother if she wanted us to do a little cosmetic to make the remains of a man so she told us you know she won the whole world to see what they had done to her son and mississippi so we'll later and we didn't do a thing so peele again we notify the people that they can see the remains dodd told martin and he was coming here to do i did it and this is tell call you did that mississippi called allergan hear that well we heard from the mother and that we can't actually mortician and mississippi are going to start over again says skid row is that it is vague he

knows yet to give give me a complete sensory have to say we heard that image of you know okay so then he has to get in unless you know bibi be hear no so tell me again how you heard that in that killed by lee was coming here we heard that unity of biting was coming here from the mother when the mother called us we notified podcast called at mississippi undertaker mortician and he told us that the bible isn't a horrible possession and it looked terrible so we notify the mother and the mother already knew the condition about it was a and so we asked her if we wanted to if she wanted us to goose up until their remains to make it more accurate self

the mullet told us no don't do with it she want the whole world to see the state now by a boy was mistreated in mississippi i want you to do something for me you know what it is to work and i think that you know if you think about it having just first see the body know and think about what i look like to you and tell me i've seen pictures that loss and bridges but how did how did you did you open the casket you know how did you know and a case on june first when the money arrived we took an early wooden box below my church trials will weaken about the body and now it was hard to see that either could make a massive was about it because the body had been in water and one buys in the water it

becomes so well this faded you could have a tale or the person has sold the mother she told us that her i'll go and mississippi was sure that was her son because he had been a fad a rain that emit war how did it affect you in the universities or with your mom first they went to my man but trouble paying one person could do to another person to make this person a hollow ed lu

is just sit still is a picture that will excel will lose a lot of those say ah so now open up a casket that kind of frightened me because also a mangled body i was really shocked to see how it and by preventing human being like it was being treated in schip to us here in chicago what exactly did you say i saw it the body was swelled up what i'm writing the right eye was missing there's less than his he had had been beaten and

his nose his face his face was disfigured period in their long black himself and intellect a human being that was all around it's b his mother made the decision was his mother's mother so i wanted to imagine what was a win win win you offers a lullaby yes comedian what was told to him his mother and what did you what was your television and we tell him as mama quaye but it was a marvel condition in the reader really would like to do some work on it before it was show to the public that she told

us no the only thing she won the whole world to see what it was because she imagined the other more cheeses you could see how one person could be beat up so they had specially of fourteen obama this a poll set whistled at a white woman in mississippi what did you think of what did you think of the decision as well i didn't go along with what she was saying in the coach i demolish alibi and that condition at that time as well you're the boss when you tell us will know yesterday he said that she was a strong one you know at the writers use your eye out with and it was really just seen

as as you stronger tell me then again when i asked people safe emit smells a strong woman because if you take your child my child and said away and receive him he was a marble person when he left their fourteen your mama look and boy and when you saw him in his casket he was completely different looking person so i couldn't see how soundbite of dallas to let her know oh they had a lot of you know the body at the funeral home us attorney but that they didn't like you could fall there was lives of people lives of people line up on the sidewalk came by to see the view in its body as a matter of fact they indicate the people were pushing pushing pushing trying to see how i am and i am a note

and they broke we had to bless my lives in the field how they broke while the wendell scott foolish to say push it to see it with me meanwhile a single thousand cabinet though it was all ages they want to push the impression of persian and abroad the one the last one that followed the film sob i'm a mascot tenn in alligators a recurrence of a sound you so slowly escalating as i was in the story after the collapse of that area didn't tell me of the total latitude and this you know is self if you say so if you say to me you know aren't you know in it to look how will you know that's one thing you say to me and it's terrible that's another thing you know the emotion that you have an advantage that you have is then

transferred to the camera to thermal rockets allegedly to have their subtly but if you look at aig and what you know at the un give you about when a lot of people here yes was a lot of people there as a matter fact a lot of us i walk the same tales by they want to see them by this sorbet that they broke my arm i do home windowless permission trying to see them by we wanted people to come and sing vowels so the computer body and go right back out on the street and will sell they were lined up they came when people came into ten o'clock at night that will fall want to see him at one because in her that ain't the boy had been abuse keel girl a liberal and they couldn't understand

why a boy fourteen years old days because he whispered whistled at a white woman why this could happen but is about facts the boy didn't risk that the lady had all the blast and when he talked it was told when you study like this before used that talk and whistle sullivan ballgame a tale that's when ed it heated up as the bubble gum in a store and one of his cousins ask him what a good match so he wrestled things that target he was on the way out the door when a white woman said he what letter is listed as to if

you know what you're wondering you know what you know what's a separation but the most of it was true veterans that day at the funeral i seen footage of the vote the view of the violent know an end people look men to turn you know where they were at very angry they were their anger because they love you when they couldn't even imagine how white person would build forty year old kid like this focus on the bible you may there may have they were angry they were maimed

oh why do you think that people came to see the see the buy it was a kind of morbid curiosity know them at bay mrs up to raspy because they didn't believe what did hurt anyone back to see the real thing what they found surprised them looking at the footage to was that people brought their kids you know i think they wanted it people why their kids to know i guess what racism was like a discussion of what it well a prop eight children with them because then it was forty years all he's a bay kiefer is a huge forty years old and they want a young or keys to see what had happened what happened to me and the same thing might happen to you if you go down south if you look at white prison always an ally well

as a matter fact back and those days if you saw a white woman walking down the street a black man and to be a teenager and outmanned they were supposed to get off the side looking at this white woman combat it was just a bed in the system and knows that some people were tickets to know just how bad it could get that because government there was a story about a boy here i'm so you see the picture of his mother's home how the body come from mississippi to you about a kid from mississippi the us and made wooden box the task was inside his wooden box so there's a way back and i'll say is that passed away by which it because if he shipped about about air

it was too much weight so they shifted barrow i'm a mess her most all of it was shipped one place to see that of it here and in the end a little smaller a broken down train station yes but to the casket hadn't been opened yet know we all know by all the casket from him saying they're disappointed simulcast the study we owe the casket when i cast in that fuel an enemy has historically and so you just give me that will be cast win against that with you on what you and what you saw on one hand will the casket when a casket at a funeral home will the casket and it was the turmoil that came from his remains recorded in a water maze indeed begins to

deteriorate and there's an order there were calls for hours because that is in the water and stays in there for while automatically come to the top of the water that's what it called for that means the philippines so yeah yeah i'm so tell me get so time they get cells so yes so the film stars over from only opened the gates when a cascade came to the funeral home then we'll the casket there was a term or that came from a body they close that by had been an alarm and again and each year it

when i was in a lot of oil x amount of hours it swells up because it accumulates water and that's what we call fraud is hard to get that all done away from the remains it remains in layers and layers of them the bodies been about him about celeb it was still smell of view absolutely we put a look to locals aren't time to cut some loaded down but you can still smell the water again if you tell me then again and start from martin vocalist so so say you know during the viewing know all people were viewing of it yesterday you know the barnes the snowstorm okay get up so we'll let people view of the violent about him still smell it because

since we could do it there she goes back to doing a bang we didn't do anything would be as critical look apple no no no at the bottom of the castle for the casket to chat to detain someone be older that was coming from a really economists use at his native of chemical and then i want you to think about it too in the fact that for me you explain something that i hadn't noticed him before but that's part of the reason why people were fighting you know that it's a talk to me they're ok but it didn't start over so at the viewing at the view in person you look at the recital because when they cast it came to the funeral we over the casket we only tested a hollow or came from the remains there was in the cast

because the cast that had made can all wars so that let mississippi and quite nice if the whole and build up what we all a casket building has ramifications so as we were told by the mother but i believe they do have the remains we said well we got to track to detainee manilow this whole are not doing anything to obey what she says we sprayed a chemical only by the feet of the body to try to detain summer's over their cargo we became a lower but other people coming back in this grains swell on this although a lot of people think that we pat mcquaid the result was we got used to love

but a lot of people could stand elevate his fellow gone wrong with it for a dip in please will you open the casket was a mother in the first round iran i think he was in the moment first time i think he was i don't know she was there i wish she was there because we use and let them i love the metro to see the remains before in my house he reassures she was there listening ok you can tell me again been so so she had she hasn't seen the body you open the casket of it as this horrible smile yeah

it looks like this year tell me then so and then and his mother's day what happens until we get to you know well mothers cry and you know i could get the mothers crying and she's heartbroken to see the chow like this highly recognizable from the way he left whole and the way he returned home she couldn't believe it as a matter fact a lot of people couldn't believe it but the canadian identify him by that's right known as franco because of that and this was a big theory i hope that that someone said to her you know i guess was ryan said sit you know don't look at the by the land and would see she said he had the look she had been the company told me that as a storage home so so you guys look at the body that when we look at the body and the moment that the biden so mrs reagan was cynical that is if i was

you would look at this biden's buyers at a hollow edition she said mr mailer i want to see nasa so we had no tidy but don't let them a look at the five what do still get sick he actually remember she faded us if i'm mad but she was sick or that the fake in a test of the present just look at some of the different groups the effects of leaving the casket built it on the story of emmett till you know that that was what made the story you remember that live there that there that his mother demanding that the cast contests won what effect only on going the world on an op ed ran against or with the process of the effectively effect illegally

cast at all the law which was her idea it had a great effect on the whole world because at that that we have no idea as many people had seen the picture of a son in such a horrible condition but see as if you've got woman shoes of drama there goes a lot of mothers they would say colored casket i don't see this is to oversee but she was a smile while when armstrong on a company in a casket all of the whole world knew about unity as a math at nyu law and so the first three was named after him to key in on experience from the late to cancel with his stated

two hundred west says the book says if all one sees it alone it's going to be a whole new element too priscilla castillo when and what affected people wanting to be treated so bad as well now to libya where the tree like this and if you can't afford deal blocked missiles suppose i am listen on a white version of white woman this is this is terrible you think given that had an effect on people pay they you know they saw how terrible it is that really what was that thing that affects that when it did they will say you know

well you know things of that change we get to eat you know what what you know so you see this is a less terrible within what these you know this semester will not affect to art and only cpr about that bad before unity of mitt romney ad and the third one and l by what saved this thing has got to change it will solve the problem by people so this is terrible this isn't it is that a change gonna be some changes made and they were bowled over but what gave his life but things changed after the disco