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Good evening and welcome to say brother. I'm your host to Sarah and Shaw filling in for Jim Sproule who will return next week. If you haven't heard the radio announcement or seen any flyer I suppose Jim is in production with two plays in New England winter and alcohol are being presented by the new African theatre company and the Theater Company of Boston at the school final Elm Hill Avenue Roxbury Friday January 9 until Sunday Jan. 11 and at the College of Art along with Brookline Avenue January 13 to January in New England winter a new play by Ed Boland is a searing drama about a black man social and psychological conflicts. The second leak is the life story of Malcolm X one time a minister who later became the martyred leader of the organization of Afro-American Unity. So take an evening to see these magnificent performances. We it's a brother recommend them highly. This week so I brought the reporters and cameras were at the Timothy school in Roxbury where representatives Holgate
former representative Haynes and Councilman Al can sponsor Meet the Candidates night. They felt the program was greatly needed to help inform the community further about the special election to fill the seat in the General Court vacated by Representative Haynes. The legislators decided to acquaint the residents of wards 8 9 and 12 with the candidate and make the candidates available for questions from the community. Oh Lord. Unfortunately the turnout of residents is quite small and although the candidates needed 150 signatures to qualify for the primary they did not produce one half that number of people for than Monday night meeting the meeting received little publicity and we regret that in our one hour format. We can only present highlights of the speeches and the question and answer period. They can a date spoke to the traditional issues of housing wealth insurance rates and education. After introducing the candidate
city councillor Tom Atkins introduced they'd representative Franklin Holgate who outlined the issues facing a state representative. He resigned from the Cigna legislature proceed tonight to hear from each of the candidates and turn and in alphabetical order pointlike to introduce the incumbent. And now only representatives from the seventh Suffolk district Representative Frank went home again. If you were representing Hogan. You're usually doing your job as moderator here. I'm very delighted to be here this evening I'm a little disappointed at the turnout but I know it was on short notice. But I do think that it's important for us
to recognize the fact of what is happening here in our community. My former colleague the Reverend Michael Haynes he's not here but I expect him and I spect to be here because he does hold the same interests that I do in what happens on the 13th of January. Now the fact is is that we face with many many major decisions this year in the legislature. And I think that the community should recognize the fact that we have a very very capable candidate. As I thought that I was years ago when you sent me to represent this district. And I think these candidates should bear in mind that when they come to the legislature that it's not all glamour and glory that they think that it might be and I'm not saying that they do but it's very hard work.
The seventh Suffolk district is the largest district in the state and it consists of the most problems and we have to deal with these problems on a day to day basis. And many people have said to me over the years when the legislature gets out early like we might move in September and they say well you're on vacation that's when the work really starts so we can move around the community and get to the people that we neglect to see while we are in session and we can come back in the next session with meaningful legislation that will affect us to make things better for the district. And I think that they should be aware that the legislature is a body of men that to me that I have found to be very dedicated people. Each of us have different beliefs. We have different ideas we have different aims and goals of what we want to achieve because our districts have a made up of different types of people.
I think the seven Suffolk is a district that is made up of middle class welfare recipients. Civil service employees people that we have to deal with on a day to day basis. And I think that the candidate has to recognize the fact that when he comes to the legislature he has to come in the early stages of his career they had to listen and learn and it's up to the candidate to adapt himself to the ways of the legislature so that he can be effective in what he wants to do for the district. It's been a very very rewarding experience here and I welcome the fact and the challenge of a new man so I can help him on his political career for however long my might last. And so I think that the people here tonight should take back to the workers and the
people in the district. Listen carefully to what the candidates say what they believe in how they feel about civil service reform how they feel about the welfare budget which is the largest most of them in any state in the United States. We're faced with a particularly deep problem of cutting the size of the House of Representatives. You should recognize and hear his views on how he feels about this and how he would vote when the vote comes up to cut the house because if the house is cut we lose more representation here in the district. He should get his views of how he feels on the reorganization of the Senate how he feels about the creation of a district that would encompass most of the black community so for the first time in history the Senate will have a black member. These are important issues automobile insurance an important vote this year. Also whether we need new taxes these are the questions I think you should ask. These are the issues that you should be very very much aware of and be interested in and I didn't really come to make a speech down and I don't want to take your time but I think these are the important things
that you should address yourself to so that the people of the district can understand what you intend to do when you come to work with me and I welcome. Thank you very much. Thank you very much Representative Holgate for we wish to protect the right woman and to royal dolomite. I thought path record in the General Court. BOLLING stated that who could protect the rights of the little man and appealed for more conscientious voting by blacks to develop political muscle and show those two hundred and thirty nine members. He would be the two hundred and forty that his district meet certain things. This is one subject which I feel not only important to community community Bino Jr.
who was born and educated in Boston spoke on what he believed to be the 10 most immediate needs of war you and I and in 12 which could be these immediate needs were in the areas of community participation communication all day long consistent school improvement consumer prices housing recreation auto insurance lore and order and drugs so that the one number one complaint that I found people just weren't concerned it would calumnies made reference to the complacency shown by the community and the government and plans to generate community interest in government by improving education and addressing himself to communities such as public safety. Nobody cares so why bother. Answer the question and con and simultaneously stand by and watch and Cafferty
contacts it's not George Daniels feels he can initiate positive change in the community and deliver some of the facilities which have been much promise for so long he stated that with the prahu operation he can help the black community develop remember the viable political right government as a sponsor of this type of effort. George Johnson and the great tax reform to provide the needed additional revenue to improve the community and exchange to touche and. He referred specifically to improvements in the civil servant systems screen he will push for and vocational education programs. Certainly the fringe benefits of free hot lunches. I'm going on Black Saturday. So I marched on as many of these people now
because I have a sincere interest in this community. Robert Melo addressed him. So you know like you from Apple you know he would try to and you really missed the memo on current work with the family Roxbury on the news about how you protect national association and nonsectarian are going to say Sean serving the whole of Roxbury and having the best baseball program in the country since campaigning. I have been I asked my Some of the Y.M.C.A. board member proud will do think that you collected the plans to deal with your fire insurance rent control housing for the elderly. You know well there are high school auto insurance no public safety and community is going to see lower rates for family dwellings and Roxbury self and fire and theft insurance with tenants living in apartments over three tons of dwellings. Number two parent control. I'd like to see a state
law. Thank you accounts Lakin It's robbery quite addressed himself to the conditions of the community both economically and physically. He felt that people do not react to government because government is too far removed from you and proposed to better deal with the problems the community faces by having a people's night once a month. Why do you challenge so battle if I can even make it. First of all. I'd like to. There was one other there is one other candidate like the ones who are here tonight. I received the invitation to appear here and for his own reasons chose not to for my own reasons I'll choose not to mention his name. I would like to at this point call former state representative Reverend Michael Haynes to come and make a few
remarks before we go immediately into the questioning. Period. And as I pointed out earlier at that doing turn to the microphone to answer for a specific period of time such questions as you may wish to put to him I would caution urge you to make your questions relevant not frivolous. Kasich or not they will probably rule them out of order and insult you as well. Robert Michael right. Honorable councillor I can send my honorable colleague Franklin Holgate. My honorable colleague. Royal Bolen and two candidates are present tonight. I'm glad for this opportunity to share in this community forum. For those who are running for the
seat to try to wrest the mantle that my vacancy has created. Plus I have a personal concern and I have a real community concern in the House of Representative and who succeeds me. There are some two hundred and two hundred and seventy four senators and representatives who are watching our community carefully in the days ahead. Very concerned with what wisdom we choose and we exercise in sending a new representative to the most problematic district in the entire commonwealth of Massachusetts. There is a relevancy here tonight and is also an irrelevancy here tonight the irrelevancy is the fact that many of you who are here are already committed to candidates who are here present by far and large and you know precisely what you you are going to do on the upcoming primary election. Relevancy on the other hand is the fact that WGBH TV the Bay State Band and undoubtedly the leader and the other news media of the black
community are going to are going to print and publish publicize what's said here tonight by the candidates. And to them I would address myself to the news media in particular you could assist greatly in bringing about an effective election on January 13th like the old song of the 1940s wake the town and tell the people the town is half asleep. Very serious time the senators the representatives of the entire government officials downtown a ver concerned with who is going to come as the voice for the people from the problematic community who's going to speak for the for the white people of the community who's going to speak particularly particularly not only but particularly for the black people of the community in these times. So it's very important what we do on January 13th. And something else that needs to be said before January 13th in this way to tell the people that all of the folk that make so much noise in our community about so many things are making too much noise about this issue and it's vitally important. So tell the heads of the agencies in your
community to do something about it is something to do some community organizing on it. The leaders of the churches all of these people who have positions of leadership. To make some noise about it and see if the people in our community can't be turned out to vote on January 13th and again on February 10th in spite of the fact that it's winter I tried my best to hurry up the thing so that this election could fall in September but there were forces beyond mine that held it over until this time of year because I knew that the winter would pose some real problems upon the interest of our people to go out and vote in the ability of our people to be able to get out to vote safely and comfortably on the 13th of January. Very very important. Election. And although some of the things that have been said might have gained us some some laughs It's a very different kind of ballgame when you get down town and you need a representative for the for the 15000 plus voters of wards 8 9 and 12 and they and the seventy thousand plus citizens of what 8 9 and 12 very very important issue. And I do have a
candidate to endorse I have two candidates to endorse tonight. I'm going to list them here and now I'm going to do us the best man running for the Republicans and the best man running for the Democrats and I hope they win. Thank you Reverend. At this time we'd like to open the meeting up to questions and answers to the candidates. I would just like remarks before they do start that. I was very pleased to hear some of the remarks that were made. I'm very happy that we have the aggressiveness and the where with all of the candidates feel the way they do about the problems that exist so you can see that through the fact that all these things have been done there needs help. So I would like you to bear that in mind. And the first one to answer questions I think well
you'll have five minutes in the audience can ask you questions of what they desire. Relative to the remarks of a Robert White would you please come and stop what you can't match your disposal. You can ask me any questions that will now try to answer them to the best of my knowledge. Well I guess that's it I can't see any hand. In. The CIA. Leak. The single most important thing. Thank you thank you for the community. If you were elected representative question was What is the most single or thing that you can do for the community if you are elected representatives. I think one of the most anal and important things that I could do for the community is to be with them.
This is one of the things that I feel and this is why I said in my statement that. I would once a month I meet with the members of the community. You know why our school auditorium so we can get together. Yes. Present problems in our community as it is in most black communities this police community relations. How do you feel as though you've addressed yourself to that problem. The question was How do you propose to address yourself to police community relations as it relates to our community. Well one of the things that I would like to see I would like to see more black police officers in our community but unfortunately the Boston Police Department system does not. Evidently have enough to offer a black man to to join the force.
So I would like to set up some type of a a community body. Which will involve the students and some of our senior citizens to sit down with the members of the Boston Police Department. And let's try and get some type of a better understanding and work out I was away put our problems through debating rather than through the violence that we have been so. Commonly known for in the in the past few years. Thank you very much. Thank you. At this time we like to call you. Mr. Fred Walden. Republican candidate for his five minutes us what. Are the many questions for Mr. Walsh. Michael buy already QUESTION Mr. Wald.
The question again is just one more how do you stand out what is your feeling on the reduction in the size of the house. As you know this is a crucial vote that comes up in the house early part of January. Another reader Robert Healy on this I favor a reduction in the size of the house. The governor favors it. The League of Women Voters favor and I think you need something like 80 votes down there to get this. And I do believe he has the 80 votes to pass this legislation and I also feel this. I have this reduction in the house that's come about. It's not going to really affect the black community that much because you're going to have your representation no matter what. And this is what the car was physical responsibility in government. I say go ahead let's cut the size of the house and cut these members out of here and let the states save some money. I don't think so Harry for the simple fact is when you get down
in there you know what I mean when they get down in the committee then they start chopping that up there they're going to say well you got to represent it. Maybe they'll let us keep it if we have one we'll have one there's nothing you can do. Government has got to change this in the 70s now. Any other questions. Yes yes. Boston school system a resident of Roxbury I'm quite sure you realize state schools are one of the proposed one of the areas to be hit heaviest by forced cutbacks is going to be campus down in I believe it is for the night. What steps would you take. Combat gave me a serious question I thought that you can go back to as you know that was only in the planning stages of that. They said I think they believe they said something like 50 million dollars aside for this project here. That was only in the planning stages. So therefore I feel that
what the Nixon administration cutting this funds out they probably saw the light of this. There's nothing really you can do about it you just got to stand fast and hope that one day that the money will come back because when they take it they take it in the snow and it's gone. That's had sort of a devastating effect on the whole Madison Park a lot of people relocated. Also it will be some sort of you know repression as far as jobs and jobs to mean some sort of derision for that. Well like I say again that was only in the planning stages again I have to refer back to this for the simple reason that a lot of people didn't even know that this plant existed until the B I really came out and said they are cutting 50 million dollars out of the Madison Park Project and I didn't even know about it and I bet half the audience didn't even know about it. That's my answer. Yes there are. Places.
To all this. What do you hope to be able to do as representatives about the underemployment in the Roxbury Community as well. And also what do you feel would be the single most important thing you would be able to contribute to the community if you're elected. Well the answer to your last question is assume like when I went to bed last night the Lord came down on me and he says Fred you know what. So you know I've been to the Promised Land and he's promised land is there now you've got to go out there and help each and every voter out there. As my job as your representative I can sit in laugh and crack jokes and whatnot but this is a serious job. This is more serious than anything else. I want to try to bring this community together both black white yellow green you have you got. I want to see this community working together like it was maybe 25 years ago we could walk down the street hand-in-hand with neighbors and everything. That's what I want to see in a community as far as unemployment is
concerned. This goes back and under a plan which I would like the state in the federal government working together here at the school dropouts or you know Parson as well. One of the highest per capita in the city here. And what I'd like to see is some plan here revive state legislation this past year where these children could go to school and learn some sort of tree after school like auto mechanics electronics engineering things of this nature here this is what I like to see the kids get into today because this is what they need. Yes. How do you think the present civil service system has an adverse or adverse effect on the black community or beneficial effect in the field that it should be changed in any way. Well well I think the question was Does Mr. Johnson think that the present civil service system is adequate as it relates to the black community
or does he think that it should be reformed in any way. I certainly think it needs to be reformed. I think that the thing that bothers me about civil service is exactly Daish and I get sick and tired of these stuffy qualifications. I think that we have a whole barricade a whole bramble bush upon which the naive applicant has to go through some of it this far as I'm concerned. It is it is prejudicial to the interest of the job seeker. And I think service civil service has a has there to be overhauled. We have to make it workable. We have to to to get the kind of civil service to allow the bulk of the American people to obtain jobs and I'm talking about now I'm talking about the jobs of hypothecation but the numerous hundreds and thousands of jobs in simple governments that every ordinary person ought to have and they just cannot run to this bramble bush.
Yes elected representatives what would be the most thing the single most important thing you feel as though you could do for the community. Of course course if elected representatives what is most singular important thing that you think you can do for the community. Well one of the things that I didn't have time to really tackle the one I want to attack is one that goes right straight into your pocket and I am enraged and I'm disgusted with the kind of philosophy that's by the MBT that says that I have to pay more and more for public transportation in this city. I think that we have all experienced what the high rate means. We have a we have a system that's becoming exclusive. PTA should not be an exclusive ride. It's a kind of system that I can I can compete with my private vehicle. And this is a comfort station. I can take my comfort station in town with my family of six
and I can I can park it in the most expensive parking lot. I will write off the tax on the car and everything and I will come out and I can beat the end bta. Now the citizens of Boston. Certainly seems to me I have a right. To ask and so are the other state residents of Massachusetts. Asked that we take another hard look at this mass transportation and then we reversed his philosophy and then we don't take $200 away from Mr. John Brown. But what we do is we give him the kind of rage where he can say I have saved one hundred fifty dollars this year and I have another thing I'd like to say here. You said some people say well Mr. Johnson what about the tax rate. It means our larger debt deficit doesn't mean that we don't have to pay more taxes. If we lower the rate. I'm not so sure. I just know this is an awful big system. And I know this system operates awfully nice when it has a lot of writers. And I mean we have proof of that during our inclement weather or our snow storms and
when I want I want their system so competitive that the private vehicle can't come into Boston. I want to so competitive that we can begin to reduce our parking lot rate. I want to show comparative pretty so the taxi fare becomes a sensible favor. Now this is the kind of tack that I want and this is the thing that I think that someone must bring to this by just some voice in the legislature must ring out in the legislature to tell these people that the poor people in Roxbury and all over this state are sick and tired of this exclusive ride this preferential ride and they want to get down to the kind of mass transportation that becomes a service to our city. We have too many things to see in a city where big buildings wonderful parks and zoos and the poor people and the really poor people but many other people can't even take advantage of these things because they can't even get there. And I haven't said anything about the poor guy looking for a job.
Thank you very much Larry. The last candidate in my section I'd like to call up to the microphone Mr. Robert Miller. Democratic candidate. For. One of the questions one of the issues in the community which none of the candidates addressed themselves to but which is had a lot of currency is the question of the inner belt and whether the inner belt ought to go ought to be allowed to be built through the middle of the city. How do you feel on that issue of the value of the controversy for the last 10 years and me because I'm a candidate for representative and all of a sudden having this question spurred on me I have no answer for you. No hassle whatsoever because this is a controversial issue. It's been going on for 10 years. And of nobody's come up with the answer so far. I'm
sure I'm not going to be able to think of one too many. Problems one of the reasons that the unit built as opposed is that people are concerned that houses are being taken and homes are being destroyed for the sake of creating a highway for commuters to get into the city. Now how do you read the competition of interests between the need for. Housing in this community that's going to be low income housing as against the need of. We do need roads to the inner city. We need to always to the in the city and every time even our expressway once it was built it was already archaic it was already obsolete five years and it was just opened up an already obsolete. We need some kind of highway into our city. We need some kind of progression into the idea of building a better type city. We need a better idea into housing. Now why. I hear people talk about
taxes I hear people talking of many things where money is involved but yet the very basic thing we're all forgetting is that we have to first unite ourselves and once we unite our showers and wash we put pride back in our neighborhood. Then maybe we can start getting people to come back to the city and start making that tax base a little larger and making the tax rate a little lower and maybe we'll all get the services we want you know won't cost as much. This is one of the basic things I need. I think we're all forgetting. I'd like to inject one thing I think what Mr. Fear is trying to bring out here is what is your feeling as far as a community is concerned relative to housing versus the unibrow. Well I think the people living in the community should have the last stand on what should be there in the community. If they fail in the ballot it's going to be a detriment to their community and I think they should have their say on it. Well I think in turn he's trying to draw out of you how do you think what the average long work and well if I was a representative and actually I'd have to go with the people if it was detrimental to their being then I would have to vote against it if it was
advantageous to their being then I would vote with it. But as a representative I think you have to go to the people and find out and get the pulse of the people and see what they feel because as a representative I'm only representing you the people. I feel like I belong because time's running out we want to get an opportunity on the other candidates. If you would pose you a question for them through me then I'll rephrase the question briefly and then then they can respond to the question. First of all on the Georgia DANIELS The question is who George Daniels presented now now from the questions Russ right here. Later will there. OK. Stand Up Speak up. My wife's school system so steam is so much like this it is lower than the suburban areas. Joyce no idea why the Boston school system standards are so so much lower and furrier to the suburban school standards.
I think the problem comes in about two or three parts. I think when you really consider what education really is. We talk about what goes on in the home. What kind of relationships a family bring back to the home. We talk about what's taught in school and we talk about motivating child. It becomes part of a vicious cycle. You have kept the family the parents in the family in menial roles where their educational spheres have not been broadened. So we introduce into the system kids who are held back and without some kind of compensatory type program to bring those kids into the mainstream of education and to keep them there. What we end up with is about a third fourth grade these kids are beginning to fall behind the state levels. I think we should bring programs like the one we're on Brando's upward bound into the system and begin to deal with kids from grade 1 R and I think we'll have to concentrate from grade 1 really to do the job we're going to have to do in his community. On another question Mr. Daniels right here has to be how do you feel on the
question of the inability. Question is how do you feel in the end about your editors. I am definitely opposed to the unnecessary taking of a man and property to bring these mammoth highways into the city and I think I said this in the Boston Democratic city meeting and I reiterated here again I think the whole idea of bringing highways and taking land and property in the city needs to be rethought because if we don't we'll find ourselves in a position that we find ourselves in now will be torn down everything to build something with no money to put something in its place. Russ Tillman here with me. The state's role should be in the development of low cost housing which is the road to the state lay low paying low cost housing. I'll go you one better. I think the state's role in the building of low cost housing should be one that says to a group of people. Being disenfranchised.
What we're going to do is to build a building or rebuilding a division within this community in which you have vested interests. I think we've disenfranchised people with all of this urban renewal type stuff we end up with people 65 years old $14000 left to survive and end up being watching the welfare. Sure. Daniel do you feel that the existing state agencies adequately divest themselves to the problem of you and if not what kinds of changes would you. Question is does the state concern itself affectively with the problems of young people. And if not what does he propose. Well first of all I'd like to start at the grassroots level. I'm I'm aware of the youth programs that are going on in state government just don't see very many results. I think what we're talking about here is assisting our teenagers in efforts to develop themselves in the community. Again a voice in the community become contributing people in the
community in other words we are building leaders here and I think in that light we need to bring members of the community youth together into what we call the large central playground areas give them responsive positions in and out of school which will develop them within the state structure especially in the city of Boston where within the next 15 20 years we're going to govern. The real question is will this then us right here its protection is concerned how would you combat muggings and larceny and things like this. This is recommended we got to police action to to diminish our muggings and vandalism in our community. This comes on a three phase approach. First of all we begin to learn our neighbors in this in terms of policeman and the second thing is you do what I had to policeman in my living room with my wife protest and a 30 minute dress down they have to began to respect people and to build within
people the kind of respect that they desire from this community. Then you'll find that people will cooperate with police I think people see some of these things are going on. I think you have to know who's going to be a potential murderer before you can begin to control MARGAN rapes and etc. you have to be concerned. According to the you know the newspapers and Mr. Warner who made the statement the emphasis on urban renewal has shifted now to the core city. Do you believe that with the urban renewal is placing the emphasis in the proper place for urban renewal. It was a shift and urban renewal is concerned from the inner city to the surrounding core area and what is was the calories in you know. I definitely am opposed to some of the urban renewal that has been happening in the area for the last two years. We feel that in order to create better housing and some of the places that are
being torn down now and really instead of tandem down if we took the same money and really renovated these places we would definitely have more adequate living conditions and it would be better for the neighborhood. Are you saying then that the emphasis should be brought away from the court back to the inner city deference question. It sure does feel. Equal hiring. Practices that if particularly in projects that are funded with federal money which is all of our tax dollars for local state play and making certain that minority people get better shakes that more jobs and any kinds of projects that are subsidized by state federal money. Well first of all I think any project any program that is state funded it should be played on a line that it is a definitely equally quality thing. The people who are operating this should
be doubly real force that everything has to be administered according to the rules and regulations as we know them many agencies. Where is the click is going to. The thing is placed under the cover and look at it's coming from a minority group. You just don't get a piece of the action. You have a question without me. But. Yes a moment I mean for instance we know that there are rules and regulations but the majority of the unions do not adhere to the rules and regulations. How do you feel the state should relate to the union. We feel that if we elected we will and initiate new legislation that would force the unions and to abide by the state's rule. You have a question for Mr.. And I and they have indicated
that. There. Are. Things that are more serious. You know every now and one more or less I believe the question here is. What is your position on whether or not there should be increased penalties for for certain crimes in our community. How would you handle the increasing crime problem. This basically is. First of all the first part of the question. I definitely would not advocate more printed to the print of the penal system we have now. A statistic that stiffen and the sentence doesn't keep people from going to prison. We feel it.
The prison of its coming out of prison. It's a duty to our society. In fact we've been working with groups I don't know whether you are familiar with it but there is a place and a south and Crawford house if I'm correct this is a novelization to try to rehabilitate prisoners after they have after they have been released from prison. Statistics prove that 70 percent of convicts coming out of prison do return. This is simply because our society don't except they convict. My personal feeling is that this man has gone away. He's paid his debt to society. He should be excepted he should be rehabilitated and given another chance where is he could play an active role in the community. Candidate Victor final.
Question is for right here. I think Mr. counties as a as a part of my question. But if I'm correct Mr. Blatter I mention the word present. What I'd like to know do you have some kind of program that you're going to set up for the brothers that have a limited amount of education that is coming out whether it's one two or three. It's coming out a day or a week or in a month. I think Bush is dismissed by I don't have any particular program in mind as if it becomes a legislator to assist the quote unquote brothers who are being released from prison. Correct. I think that we as a community should really help our fellow. Brothers who come out of prison. I quoted. In. Talking about my own Ana then our biggest problem is that we really don't have enough institutions for. Criminals getting into this aspect of it. I think that we would benefit by having a halfway house.
For people who are released from prison to teach a trade. I also believe that you know I don't think prison is exactly the right place for someone from as I feel maybe we should have found. Working in organizations for people who get in and difficult. Yes gentleman I think is the biggest problem in Iraq story and how would you combat that problem. Question is what does he think is the biggest problem in Roxbury and I've got to add the salt and rock spray of the solvent says the district includes cell phone. What's the biggest problem here in the District which is running as a candidate how does he propose rectifier. Well I think that the biggest problem actually right now. I think that we all know we have inadequate housing we don't have enough. And I feel the only way to combat this is actually to join together and have town assemblies and meetings and suggest to the state what we need and what we
want is to be shared. One of the recent There was a report from a legislative committee out of the state legislature recently which recommended in part that possession of marijuana up to two ounces be legalized. How do you feel on that question. What's his opinion on legalizing over my quality of life. While I do believe marijuana. Should be a misdemeanor especially being in the presence of marijuana because so many times so many people get hooked up. By just being around. Marijuana not knowing. They have been hooked up. And I think the law should really be changed to make it fairer and not. To make it a Mr. means to fill. Your question and your recommendation or your support of the notion of increasing the penalty for stealing cars. One of the big reasons the cars are stolen is that young kids want to go
joyriding and the law has a special category called on your authorized use of a vehicle which is a misdemeanor. Now are you recommending that that particular crime be abolished in the kids who go joyriding be prosecuted for committing a felony. I think that we have to start somewhere. Charlie I think that we have to. I think we have to make them. I mean this is an expense which we occur which we as a citizens and attacked me as we have automobiles have to pay. We have insurance rate to pay every year. I think that a person who pays $500 for insurance so that his kid can enjoy the car. You know. This is a problem. This is really a problem. Steal. Back. From Syria. You should love. As I said in what I propose to do I would like to see the stage set up actually a reagent examination by which every student in the state
would take the exam at the end of the year and. By this exam we would be able to investigate the areas which lack which election education and I think that it should be then investigated and then the state should be responsible for doing something about this. I really think so. OK then let that be that. And I needed that. Oh. Yes. The reiteration is that there are enough studies enough studies have been done concerning the educational
problems. Now what would you propose has new action. My first concern would be to take the school system on hands of the school committee because it makes it a political. Center. Which teaches. Because of political neck political connections. I think this is wrong. I think the State Board of Education should take over. Oh yeah I think that the state representatives of Representatives have the power to pass a bill to do away with the school committee. It has something something to do with the home home room which has been. Instituted rather recently have told our system to some degree back to our questions for the bio.
Thank you smile. Thank you. All I sure will be with our former representative royal Boeing. Any questions for representative vote. Sure. As a former state representative if you will return to the State House what are some of the major areas that you would be concentrating in that you feel would be of the most benefit to the community as a farmer or sort of if you were returned to the State House which issues would you consider most important that you would work out on behalf of the community. Well there are a variety of things you can look for in one thing. Some build to look innocuous. This has no relevancy to my theory. Fine you find
something that it does. You know that's a big issue coming up now is that. Region on. Government. Now a person ordinarily would say Gee regional government a good idea maybe get some of those taxes so that we can have unified police force and so on so for them it sounds pretty good. But really what's behind Regional Government is that the minorities are moving into the city not only the city but in every city in the state. And it's time that these people begin to take over the government where they're living now. So then the power structures the Satch talking about the regional government. So. There's a different side to a bill that seems to be unanimous support. Other bits of legislation you take like high school education for the police officers. Doesn't sound like a natural thing. Certainly a police officer should have a high school education but when you don't mention it when the black police officers start getting interested in getting
on the like your place for dinner started talking about high school education. I worked for over a year and a half the whole way Bill back for three years and said to let the black ones that are interested in getting the government now and then you start your high school education don't change rooms in the middle of the street. Which will probably be worth putting in your speech this evening. You mention the fact that you were one of the sponsors of the racial imbalance law they were the originator of the original village. It's I don't know if my statistics are altogether correct but I think that it's fair to say that since the laws been passed the number of schools which violate that law in the city of Boston increases every year. Do you still support your act. Yes I support the racial imbalance bill because until this bill was passed.
No action was taken. Nothing was done in Boston. About distributing these kids looking to see what type of education an all black school was getting not only in Boston we discovered all of a sudden Springfield New Bedford in Medford. All of a sudden these situations came up. And until that bill was paid. This situation was unfortunate faced up to by the local government. And this bill made him face up to the situation. That's why I say I'm not for the repeal of the racial imbalance bill on education in this state is on a level that we know have no need for this type of legislation. Charlie. It seems to me it's fair to say that since the number of schools violating violating the law increases every year the local school department is having considerable trouble really facing up to the issue now is there anything that you would do to put further pressure on them to face this issue.
I think they are going to face up to the issue of bussing. I think it's nothing ridiculous about we've got children being bused 15 miles in a day to go to school within the city. You can easily get a bus and program the bussing program with the writ hearing that was pulled across to you issue of the racial imbalance Bill I think. And this sort of counteract my other argument about regional. Government. Is that I think we're coming to a place where there will be Regional High School. So you say you have it in other parts of the state but it's set up for a different reason. You've got a lot of small towns together neither can for can for a good high school so they all join together and they put up a good high school they have good faculty. The same thing I think will come. With the city and the suburbs. I think that the bill
itself makes educators face up to these problems because once school becomes a 51 percent black They've got to make changes in the every year as you say the percentage of schools to become 51 percent percent black. Increase it. So in leads to increased activity increased thinking and this will generate very education for our kids. John right here. The most important political voice in the black community was not present at candidates night at the temple to school Monday evening that missing voice was your voice. Instead there were many in D.C.. Many South and in walks free residents ask why bother voting isn't worth the effort. They're not totally wrong. What impact can a state representative have in dealing with problems that basically are city hall problems. The answer to this and other questions is dependent upon you the voter. The democratic
process has not been responsive to the needs of people. The federal administration has given up on the cities. This is evident by Nixon's recent plan to build new cities and to improve and expand old town. There are obstacles in our way. Yet what immediate alternatives do we as a people have a state representative can and must speak to change. He must articulate our needs and not the needs of the white business community. The Black Panther slogan of all Paula to the people is a slogan that must go beyond rhetoric and be demonstrated at the ballot box and by active community participation during and after the election. On January 13 and February Jim do something for yourself. Vote for the candidate of your choice and then follow up that vote by having him be responsive to our needs. All community agencies social clubs churches neighborhood groups and individuals.
Should move strongly in the coming days and weeks to see that the black community is aware and voting in this special election.
Series
Say Brother
Episode Number
48
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WGBH (Boston, Massachusetts)
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Host Sarah Ann Shaw introduces the program that focuses on a recent "Meet the Candidates Night" at the Timilty School in Roxbury, MA (c. 12/1969). Moderated by Boston City Councilman Tom Atkins; appearing were outgoing State Representative Rev. Michael Haynes, whose departure was the reason for the special election being held on 1/13/1970. Also present was Representative Franklin Holgate and former State Representative Royal Bolling. Candidates speaking and responding to questions from the audience included: Nick Grabano jr.; Edward Callameese; George Daniels; George Johnson; Robert Mellow; Fred Walden; and Robert White. Topics of discussion and debate included: housing, welfare, insurance rates, education, and crime. Host Sarah Ann Shaw urges the Black community to participate in the election and hold elected officials accountable. Franklin Holgate served in the Massachusetts House of Representatives from 1965-1972.
Date
1970-01-08
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Program
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Race and Ethnicity
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African Americans Economic conditions; Insurance and society; African Americans Housing; Welfare and society; Crime and society; African Americans Education; Roxbury (Boston, Mass.)
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Chicago: “Say Brother; 48,” 1970-01-08, WGBH, American Archive of Public Broadcasting (GBH and the Library of Congress), Boston, MA and Washington, DC, accessed May 2, 2024, http://americanarchive.org/catalog/cpb-aacip-15-9zk55m2r.
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