PBS NewsHour; Tuesday, December 13, 2022, 6:00pm-7:00pm PST

♪ JUDY: GOOD EVENING. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ON "THE NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, A BREAKTHROUGH. SCIENTISTS HIT A MAJOR MILESTONE IN NUCLEAR FUSION TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD DRAMATICALLY ALTER THE ENERGY LANDSCAPE. THEN, THE BELEAGUERED CEO OF THE CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE FTX IS INDICTED ON MULTIPLE CRIMINAL CHARGES AFTER BEING ARRESTED IN THE BAHAMAS. AND BOTH SIDES OF THE LAW -- A NEW INITIATIVE ALLOWS INMATES TO WORK TOWARD A LAW DEGREE WHILE BEHIND BARS. >> IF YOU TOLD ME 10 YEARS AGO I WOULD BE GOING TO LAW SCHOOL, I WOULD SAY THAT'S A LIE, SO THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT CAN HAPPEN. JUDY: ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S "PBS NEWSHOUR." ♪

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MORE AT KF.ORG. ♪ >> THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND BY CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. STEPHANIE: WE WILL RETURN TO THE FULL PROGRAM AFTER THE LATEST HEADLINES. THE U.S. ECONOMY IS SHOWING SIGNS THAT THE WORST OF INFLATION MAY HAVE PASSED. THE U.S. LABOR DEPARTMENT REPORTS CONSUMER PRICES CLIMBED 7.1% IN NOVEMBER FROM A YEAR

AGO. THAT WAS DOWN FROM A YEAR-OVER-YEAR INCREASE OF 7.7% IN OCTOBER AND FROM THE PEAK OF 9.1% IN JUNE. FEDERAL PROSECUTORS UNVEILED A BATTERY OF CHARGES TODAY AGAINST SAM BANKMAN-FRIED, FOUNDER OF THE BANKRUPT CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE FTX. THEY INCLUDE WIRE FRAUD, MONEY LAUNDERING, AND LYING TO INVESTORS. BANKMAN-FRIED WAS ARRESTED MONDAY IN THE BAHAMAS AND REMAINS IN CUSTODY AFTER BEING DENIED BAIL TODAY. WE WILL RETURN TO THIS LATER IN THE PROGRAM. THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT HAS OUSTED ONE OF ITS VICE PRESIDENTS IN A BUDDING BRIBERY SCANDAL. HE'S ONE OF FOUR EU LAWMAKERS ARRESTED OVER THE WEEKEND AND ACCUSED OF TAKING MONEY AND GIFTS FROM QATAR. THE EU PARLIAMENT'S PRESIDENT ABOUT A NO HOLDS BARRED INVESTIGATION. >> THERE WILL BE NO IMPUNITY. THERE WILL BE NO SWEEPING UNDER THE CARPET. OUR INTERNAL INVESTIGATION WILL LOOK AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND HOW OUR SYSTEMS CAN BE MADE MORE WATERTIGHT.

>> OFFICIALS FROM QATAR HAVE DENIED BRIBERY CLAIMS. A FRENCH COURT TODAY CONVICTED EIGHT DEFENDANTS IN A TRUCK ATTACK IN 2016. 86 PEOPLE WERE KILLED AFTER AN ISLAMIC STATE SYMPATHIZER DROVE INTO A CROWD CELEBRATING BASTILLE DAY. HE WAS KILLED BY POLICE. THOSE CONVICTED TODAY WERE ACCUSED OF HELPING ORCHESTRATE THE ATTACK. THE UNITED STATES MAY BE CLOSE TO SENDING A PATRIOT MISSILE BATTERY TO HELP UKRAINE REPEL RUSSIAN ATTACKS. THAT WAS WIDELY REPORTED TODAY. THE PATRIOT WOULD BE THE MOST ADVANCED SURFACE TO AIR SYSTEM THAT KYIV HAS RECEIVED. MEWHILE IN PARIS, DONOR COUNTRIES PLEDGE MORE THAN $1 BILLION TO HELP UKRAINIANS THROUGH THE WINTER. >> TODAY, THE MAIN GOAL OF THE RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE AFTER RECENT MILITARY DEFEATS IS TO DROWN THE UKRAINIANS IN DESPAIR. IT IS ABOUT ATTACKS ON CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE TO CUT WATER AND ELECTRICITY AND PLUNGE UKRAINIANS INTO DARKNESS AND COLD. WE ARE ACTING TODAY TO HELP THEM RESIST.

>> PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY TODAY SAID SOME 12 MILLION UKRAINIANS ARE LIVING WITHOUT POWER. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, A SPRAWLING WINTE STORM BROUGHT EVERYTHING FROM TORNADOES TO BLIZZARDS TODAY. TWISTERS STRUCK NEAR FORT WORTH, TEXAS, AND NEAR OKLAHOMA ALONG WITH HEAVY RAIN AND HAIL. TO THE NORTH, ICE, SLEET, AND HEAVY SNOW HIT THE DAKAS AND OTHER STATES. SAME-SEX AND INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES ARE NOW PROTECTED UNDER A FEDERAL LAW THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED TODAY. THE WHITE HOUSE INVITED HUNDREDS OF GUESTS FOR A CELEBRATION THAT INJURED SINGER CYNDI LAUPER ON THE SOUTH LAWN. THE PRESIDENT SAID THE NEW LAW STRIKES A BLOW AGAINST HATE IN ALL ITS FORMS. ALABAMA AND UTAH HAVE JOINED A GROWING LIST OF STATE GOVERNMENTS BARRI SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS TIKTOK UNOFFICIAL DEVICES AND COMPUTER NETWORKS. THEY ACTED MONDAY, CITING SECURITY CONCERNS WITH THE CHINESE-OWNED APP. THE FBI HAS WORN CHINESE AUTHORITIES COULD GET ACCESS TO USER DATA. AUTOMAKER STILL LENT HIS IS

RECALLING 1.4 MILLION RAM PICKUP TRUCKS MOSTLY IN NORTH AMERICA. THE COMPANY SAYS TAILGATES MAY OPEN SUDDENLY, CAUSING CARGO TO SPILL OUT. OREGON GOVERNOR BROWN ANNOUNCED TODAY SHE WILL COMMUTE ALL OF OREGON'S DEATH ROW SENTENCES. THE 17 INDIVIDUALS CURRENTLY ON DEATH ROW WILL IADTENSEIEC R OREGON HAS NOT EXECUTED AN INMATE SINCE 1997. AND SCIENTISTS ANNOUNCED TODAY THAT TWO VOLCANOES ON HAWAII'S BIG ISLAND HAVE STOPPED CORRUPTING, INCLUDING THE WORLD'S LARGEST VOLCANO, MAUNA L OA, WHICH STARTED SPEWING LAVA IN LATE NOVEMBER. U.S. IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS FACE A SURGE OF ASYLUM-SEEKERS NEAR EL PASO. BRITTNEY GRINER'S AGENT DISCUSSES THE BASKETBALL STAR'S ROAD TO RECOVERY. A NEW DOCUMENTARY FOLWS THE

FIRST PERSON EVER DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM, AND MUCH MORE. >> THIS IS THE "PBS NEWSHOUR," FROM WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND ON'S THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. JUDY: FOR THE FIRST TIME, SCIENTISTS HAVE PRODUCED A NUCLEAR FUSION REACTION THAT CREATED MORE ENERGY THAN WAS EXPENDED, A BREAKTHROUGH TO TAP INTO THE SAME KIND OF ENERGY THAT POWERS THE SUN AND THE STARS. RESEARCHERS AT THE LAWRENCE LIVERMORE NATIONAL LABORATORY IN CALIFORNIA ANNOUNCED THE DETAILS TODAY, AND IT COULD HAVE HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR POTENTIALLY CREATING CLEAN AND LIMITLESS ENERGY SOMEDAY. BUT THAT DAY IS MANY YEARS AWAY. TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS ACHIEVED AND WHAT STILL NEEDS TO HAPPEN, I'M JOINED BY OUR SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT, MILES O'BRIEN. REMIND US, WHAT IS FUSION, WHAT IS NUCLEAR FUSION? >> NUCLEAR FUSION IS WHAT POWERS

THE STARS, WHAT POWERS OUR SUN. ESSENTIALLY, WHAT HAPPENS IS A COUPLE OF HYDROGEN ATOMS COME TOGETHER, AND THEY FUSE, AND WHEN THEY FUSE, THEY CREATE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY. THIS HAPPENS ON THE SUN UNDER TREMENDOUSLY RIGOROUS CONDITIONS WITH A LOT OF GRAVITY AND FORCE. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO REPLICATE THAT HERE ON EARTH. JUDY: WHAT EXACTLY IS THE BREAKTHROUGH THAT THESE SCIENTISTS ACHIEVED? >> AS YOU SAID, IT HAPPENED AT THE LAWRENCE LIVERMORE NATIONAL LABORATORY, THE NATIONAL EMISSIONS FACILITY, THE MOST POWERFUL LASER IN THE WORLD. 192 LASERS POINTED AT SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIZE OF A PEPPERCORN INSIDE A CYLINDER. THE ENERGY, WHICH WAS DELIVERED TO THAT CYLINDER, WAS ON THE ORDER OF TWO MEGAJOULES. FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, ONE KILOWATT HOUR EQUATES TO 3.6 MEGAJOULES.

IN ANY CASE, TWO MEGAJOULES CAME IN. IT IGNITED THOSE HYDROGEN ATOMS. THEY FUSE AND CREATED MORE ENERGY. ESSENTIALLY, ONE MEGAJOULE MORE. THAT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT HAS EVER HAPPENED IN A LABORATORY EXPERIMENT. OBVIOUSLY, IT IS NOT TOCALE. THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE, BUT IT IS A MOMENT TO REMEMBER. JUDY: YOU SAID A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. HOW FAR ARE WE FROM TAKING THIS BREAKTHROUGH AND TURNING IT INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SCALED AND USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES? >> JUST TO GIVE YOU A POINT OF REFERENCE, THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THIS ONCE A DAY. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS 10 TIMES AS SECOND IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO BE PRACTICAL AND SCALABLE AND SOMETHING YOU WANT TO PLUG INTO THE GRID. YOU GET AN IDEA THAT IS ITS MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE AWAY FROM THAT. ERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BDONE. WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THESE LASERS, AMONG OTHER

THINGS, BUT THAT SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF FOCUS ON FUSION RIGHT NOW, PARTICULARLY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE CLIMATE EMERGENCY. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS MADE AN EFFORT TO ACCELERATE EFFORTS IN THIS REALM. LET'S LISTEN TO THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY, JENNIFER GRANHOLM. >> IF WE CAN ADVANCE FUSION ENERGY, WE CAN USE IT TO PRODUCE CLEAN ELECTRICITY, TRANSPORTATION FUELS, POWER IN THE INDUSTRY, SO MUCH MORE. IT WOULD BE LIKE ADDING A POWER DRILL TO OUR TOOLBOX. >> IT IS A NICE DRILL, BUT WE ARE STILL A LITTLE BIT AWAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TEMPER THE EXCITEMENT A LITTLE BIT. JUDY: THANK YOU FOR THAT. GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT. YOU WERE TELLING US THAT ORIGINALLY, THIS WAS ALL ABOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS. >> YES, THE NATIONAL COMMISSION FACILITY IS ALL ABOUT KIND OF CREATING THE CIRCUMSTANCES INSIDE A HYDROGEN BOMB.

THIS WAS CREATED AFTER THE U.S. AGREED TO STOP UNDERGROUND TESTING OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THE 1990'S. IN ORDER TO MAKE THE STOCKPILE STAY SAFE AND TO ENSURE THEY CAN DEVELOP WEAPONS IN THE FUTURE, THEY HAD TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO TEST, SO THAT IS WHAT THIS WAS BILLED FOR. IT WAS NEVER BUILT WITH THE IDEA OF CREATING COMMERCIALIZED ENERGY, BUT ALONG THE WAY, THEY DISCOVERED IT CAN BE DONE, ALTHOUGH IT IS A VERY COMPLEX WAY TO DO IT. >> YOU WERE TELLING US, REMINDING US THAT THERE ARE OTHER EXPERIMENTS OUT THERE INVOLVING NUCLEAR FUSION. EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN WHAT THAT HAS BEEN, WHAT THAT IS AND THIS. >> THIS ONE, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO HELP LAWMAKER TO THEIR JOB AND WE GOT SOME ENERGY OUT OF IT. THE OTHER IDEA, WHICH WAS THOUGHT OF INITIALLY AS A WAY TO PRODUCE CIVILIAN ELECTRICITY, IS A GIANT RACETRACK WITH MAGNETS. HUGE FACILITIES WHICH CREATE THE

CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU CAN FUSE THESE ATOMS IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY, AND THERE'S HAVE A DOZEN OR SO OF THESE PROJECTS ALL AROUND THE WORLD, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, AND THEY ARE MAKING STEADY PROGRESS, BUT THIS IS TOUGH. DESPITE ALL THE TALK TODAY ABOUT THE U.S. BEING LEADERS IN ALL OF THIS, THERE ARE OTHER NATIONS WHICH ARE KIND OF DRIVING THE BUS ON THIS. I SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF FUSION POWER ASSOCIATES WHO HAS BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS FOR 60 YEARS. HE HAS SORT OF SEEN THEM COME AND SEEN THEM GO. LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. >> MOST OF THE MONEY AND MOST OF THE EFFORT IS NOT HERE. WE THINK OF OURSELVES AS BEING THE LEADER IN EVERYTHING. THE CHINESE ARE WAY AHEAD OF US. THE U.K. IS WAY AHEAD OF US, AND JAPAN IS RIGHT IN THE MIX. IF ALL YOU HEAR ABOUT IN THE U.S. IS U.S., U.S., U.S., BUT THE MOMENTUM FOR FUSION RIGHT NOW IS OVERSEAS.

>> THAT SAID, THERE ARE MORE THAN 30 PRIVATE FUSION COMPANIES IN THE WORLD, AND MOST ARE IN THE U.S. MEANWHILE, THE GOVERNMENT IS SPENDING ABOUT $1 BILLION A YEAR TO ADVANCE HIS TECHNOLOGY. BUT I SHOULD REMIND YOU, THE OLD JOKE AMONG PHYSICISTS IS FUSION IS 20 YEARS OFF, AND IT ALWAYS WILL BE. IT IS HARD TO SAY HOW MUCH WE ARE CLOSER TODAY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A MILESTONE TO REMEMBER. JUDY: I REMEMBER A PHYSICS TEACHER IN HIGH SCHOOL MENTIONING NUCLEAR FUSION, AND THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. YOU ARE SAYING THERE IS STILL A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE. MILES O'BRIEN, THANK YOU >> YOU ARE WELCOME, JUDY. JUDY: THE INVESTIGATION INTO THE COLLAPSE OF THE CRYPTO FIRM FTX MOVED INTO A NEW PHASE TODAY. FOUNDER SAM WAS FORMALLY CHARGED

. JOHN YANG HAS THE STORY AND LOOKS AT SOME KEY QUESTIONS THE CASE HAS BROUGHT TO LIGHT. >> DOES APPEAR THAT THEY ARE FILING CHAPTER 11. >> THE HUGE FAILURE OF CRYPTOCURRENCY FIRM FTX HAS LED TO A BARRAGE OF CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CHARGES AGAINST ITS DISGRACED FOUNDER AND FORME CEO, SAM BANKMAN-FRIED, WHO APPEARED TODAY ON THE COURT IN THE BAHAMAS WHERE HE WAS ARRESTED YESTERDAY. BAHAMIAN AUTHORITIES SAID THEY WOULD GRANT A U.S. REQUEST TO EXTRADITE HIM. A NEW YORK GRAND JURY INDICTED HIM ON EIGHT COUNTS, INCLUDING WIRE FRAUD, MONEY LAUNDERING, AND ILLEGAL CAMPAIG CONTRIBUTIONS. >> THIS INVESTIGATION IS COMPLEX AND SPRAWLING. I THINK IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT BY ANYONE'S DEFINITION, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST FINANCIAL FRAUDS IN AMERICAN HISTORY. >> IT IS THE FIRST MOVE BY REGULATORS TO HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COLLAPSE.

FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY AFTER IT RAN OUT OF MONEY AND BANKMAN-FRIED RESIGNED FROM HIS LEADERSHIP POST. IN ADDITION, THE COMMODITY FUTURES TRADING COMMISSION AND THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION BROUGHT CIVIL SUITS. THE SEC'S COURT FILING DESCRIBED A MASSIVE, YEARS-LONG AUD. THE FCC CHAIRMAN SAID BANKMAN-FRIED BUILT A HOUSE OF CARDS ON A FOUNDATION OF DECEPTION. THE SEC ALLEGES THAT BANKMAN-FRIED DIVERTED CUSTOMERS' MONEY TO HIS PRIVATE HEDGE FUND, ALAMEDA RESEARCH. THAT MONEY WAS THEN USE TO MAKE VENTURE INVESTMENTS FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT, BUYING LAVISH REAL ESTATE AND GIVING LARGE POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS, AND WHEN INVESTORS BECAME NERVOUS ABOUT IF FTX HAD SUFFICIENT FUNDS, THEY PULLED THEIR MONEY OUT, TRIGGERING THE COLLAPSE. AT A "NEW YORK TIMES" EVENT EARLIER THIS MONTH, BANKMAN-FRIED DENIED KNOWINGLY DEFRAUDING INVESTORS AND INSTEAD BLAMED THE IMPLOSION ON SLOPPY ACCOUNTING AND A FAILURE TO APPRECIATE THE RISKS.

>> LOOK, I SCREWED UP. I'M A CEO -- I WAS A CEO, AN I MEAN, I SAY THIS AGAIN AND AIN THAT THAT MEANS I HAD A RESPONSIBILITY. THAT MEANS I WAS RESPONSIBLE ORIGINALLY. WE MESSED U BIG. >> THE 30-YEAR-OLD COULD SPEND THE REST OF HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS. BANKMAN-FRIED HABEEN SET TO TESTIFY TODAY BEFORE THE HOUSE SERVICES COMMITTEE REMOTELY FROM THE BAHAMAS. >> THE SCOPE OF OUR INVESTIGATION IS TRULY ENORMOUS. >> THE COMPANY'S CURRENT COT-APPOINTED CEO DID APPEAR. HE LED ENRON THROUGH ITS BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDINGS YEARS AGO. HE DESCRIBED THE FINANCIAL DISARRAY HEATED -- HE EN >>COUNATRED . FTX ABSOLUTELY NOL CONTROLS WHATSOEVER. THIS IS REALLY OLD-FASHIONED EMBEZZLEMENT. THIS IS JUST TAKING MONEY FROM

CUSTERS AND USING IT FOR YOUR OWN PURPOSE. NOT SOPHISTICATED AT ALL. >> MEANWHILE, THE SEC AND JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TODAY SAID OTHERS COULD BE CHARGED IN THE CASE. THE CHARGES AGAINST BANKMAN-FRIED ADD TO THE GROWING SKEPTICISM AROUND CRYPTOCURRENCIES. IN A STATEMENT TODAY, THE FCC CHAIRMAN SAID IT SHOULD BE A WAKE-UP CALL TO ALL CRYPTO PLATFORMS. THE HOST OF PUBLIC RADIO'S "FULL DISCLOSURE." BANKMAN-FRIED SAID THIS IS NOT ANYTHING INTENTIONAL, THAT THIS WAS DUE TO HIS LACK OF OVERSIGHT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHARGES THAT WERE BROUGHT TODAY, IS THE GIST OF THESE CHARS THAT THIS WAS A FRAUD FROM THE GET GO? >> YEAH, IT IS SO HARD TO SQUARE WITH HIS PERSONA THAT THERE IS A SHADOW PERSONA BIFURCATION HERE. WE IN THE INDUSTRY CALL IT THE KIND OF CHARISMATIC MEGAFAUNA OF SAM BANKMAN-FRIED. THIS IS A PERSON WHO WOULD RETURN YOUR DIRECT MESSAGES ON TWITTER. THIS IS A PERSON WHO IN THE

INTENSE FIRE OF THE COMPANY FALLING APART DOES INTERVIEWS AND MAKES HIMSELF ACCESSIBLE AND VULNERABLE. YOU KNOW, HE'S DRESSED IN SHORTS AND PULLS OF HIS TUBE SOCKS AND EVERYTHING. YOU CANNOT REALLY SQUARE IT AWAY WITH THIS IDEA OF A TWIRLING MUSTACHE VILLAIN WHO SECRETIVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM INVESTORS -- SECRETED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM INVESTORS AND HAD AN EX-GIRLFRIEND RUNNING THE HEDGE FUND AND CHARMED LIFE IN THE BAHAMAS. >> WHAT DID THE SEC CHAIRMAN MEAN -- AS WE HEARD ON PART OF THE TAPE, HE CALLED THIS A HOUSE OF CARDS. WHAT DID HE MEAN? QUICK THAT YOU ARE EFFECTIVELY USING THIS BIG EXCHANGE WHICH TRAFFIC IN THIS IDEA OF SAFETY. IT HAD SUPER BOWL ADS, SPONSORED ARENAS, THAT YOU COULD SAFELY AND TRANSPARENTLY INTERACT. EVEN THOUGH THIS LARGELY UNREGULATED, YOU WOULD THINK YOUR ASSETS ARE BEING PROTECTED, BUT HE IS PULLING ASSETS OUT WILLY-NILLY, USING THEM AS THIS UNRESTRICTED CREDIT WINDOW TO

FUND POLITICAL DONATIONS, MEDIA INVESTMENTS. THIS HEDGE FUND HE CONTROLLED, ALAMEDA, YOU CANNOUSE IT AS A PERSONAL PIGGY BANK. WE SEE THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN ASSET PRICES FALL APART. IT HAPPENED DURING THE MAID OFF DEBACLE -- THE MAID OFF -- THE MADOFF DEBACLE. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO HAVE GREAT INTERNAL CONTROLS BECAUSE THE ASSETS WERE JUST GOING UP AND ACCOUNTS WERE OPENING LEFT AND RIGHT. AT WORST WHAT WE ARE ALLEGING HERE IS DOWNRIGHT FRAUD. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT HIS PERSONA, CHARISMA, ACCESSIBILITY TO REPORTERS. IS THAT, USING, ONE REASON WHY IT WAS SO EASY FOR HIM TO DO THIS? >> I WONDER IF IT WAS. LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY -- CRYPTO BRO FROM MIAMI, THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU JUST CANNOT POSSIBLY GET IT, YOU MERE MORTALS. HE WAS THE OPPOSITE.

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS PLAN OF TARGETED ALTRUISM, OF ENGAGING THE PRESS, CERTAIN LIBERAL CAUSES, ENGAGING WITH CONGRESS, PEOPLE BEING OUT THERE. PEOPLE BEING THE KINDER, GENTLER FACE OF CRYPTO. HE HIT ALL THE RIGHT BUTTONS. IT REMINDS ME OF THE ELIZABETH HOLMES CHARM OFFENSIVE AT THERA NOS. EVERYBODY WANTED TO BELIEVE IT. SHE WAS MAGAZINE COVER MATERIAL. KIND OF SINGING AT WORST, MAYBE THIS PERSON WAS JUST SELF-DELUDED A BIT, BUT YOU COULD NOT IMAGINE THE EXTENT OF FRAUD BEING ALLEGED HERE. THE FACT THAT YOU HAD THIS WINDOW, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF CUSTOMER ASSETS, IT IS CERTAINLY ONE OF THE LARGEST FRAUDS IN WALL STREET HISTORY. >> WAS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THE FACT THAT THIS WAS CRYPTO THAT MADE THIS EVEN EASIER TO DO OR SOMETHING INTRINSIC ABOUT CRYPTO, OR COULD THIS HAVE BEEN ANY HOT COMMODITY? >> THEREIN LIES THE PARADOX BECAUSE CRYPTO IS UNREGULATED.

THERE IS THIS ELEMENT OF WILD WEST FRONTIER INVESTING TO IT AND THE FACT THAT YOU DID IT OFFSHORE IN THE BAHAMAS, BUT GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT SUPER BOWL AD WITH LARRY DAVID. THIS IS A SAFE TRANSPARENT WAY TO TRANSACT IN CRYPTO. YOU WOULD THINK AS AN INVESTOR THAT YOUR ASSETS ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED AND SEGREGATED, BUT THIS IS NOT LIKE BEING INVESTED IN A BROKERAGE ACCOUNT IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE IF THE COMPANY GOES UNDER OR IF THERE IS A RUN ON THE BANK, YOU HAVE FDIC INSURANCE ON THE ASSETS. THIS WAS LARGELY UNREGULATED. IT WAS TREATED AS SEVERAL DIFFERENT REGULATORY ARMS ARE ALLEGING AS AN OPEN PIGGY BANK, AN OPEN LINE OF CREDIT WITH NO INTERNAL CONTROLS. WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE CLEANUP GUY'S TESTIMONY COMING IN AND SAYING IT WAS REALLY RUN LIKE A WILD WEST. YOU HAVE PROTECTIONS AND CONTROLS, BUT WHEN YOU WANT TO BE PART OF AN ASSET THAT IS NEW

AND DISTRIBUTED BLOCKCHAIN AND IT IS EXOTIC AND TAKE THE TRADE OF GOING WITH THE BAHAMAS-BASED EXCHANGE, THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD REAP ON THE OTHER END OF IT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MY PLEASURE. JUDY: AN EXTRAORDINARY NUMBER OF MIGRANTS CROSSED THE U.S.-MEXICO BORDER INTO EL PASO, TEXAS, OVER THE WEEKEND. THIS AS GOVERNMENT AND NONGOVERNMENT AGENCIES PREPARE FOR THE END OF TITLE 42. THE PANDEMIC-RELATED BORDER THE GOVERNMENT HAS USE TO TURN AWAY MORE THAN ONE MILLION MIGRANTS. >> NEARLY 1000 PEOPLE, MANY FROM NICARAGUA, CROSSED THE RIO GRANDE FROM MEXICO INTO EL PASO ON SUNDAY NIGHT ALONE, STRETCHING AND ALREADY TAXED BORDER SYSTEM TO NEW LIMITS. ALONG THE ENTIRE SOUTHERN BORDER, FEDERAL AGENTS HAVE REPORTED A RECORD NUMBER OF

ENCOUNTERS, NEARLY 2.4 MILLION IN A YEAR-LONG PERIOD. FOR MORE ON THE IMPACT OF THESE ARRIVALS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE FROM WASHINGTON, I'M JOINED BY CONGRESSWOMAN VERONICA ESCOBAR, A DEMOCRAT REPRESENT IN TEXAS' 16TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT WHICH INCLUDES EL PASO AND WISH SHE JOINS US FROM NOW. AS YOU KNOW, THE LAST FEW DAYS HAVEEEN SOME OF THE LARGEST MASS CROSSINGS IN DECADES. YOU HAVE SAID YOUR COMMUNITY HAS SEEN AN UNPRECEDENTED STRAIN. YOU ARE THERE NOW. DESCRIBE FOR US THE IMPACT ON EL PASO. >> FIRST, I WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE COMMUNITY. WE CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO AN ENORMOUS CHALLENGE WHILE RETAINING OUR VALUES AND NOT SURRENDERING TO POLITICS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH SOLUTIONS, SO I WANT TO APPLAUD EVERYONE HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. IT IS THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION

EVER THAT HAS SOUGHT TO FULLY REIMBURSE EXPENSES THAT ARE RELATED TO SUPPORTING MIGRANTS IS A VERY DEEPLY -- THIS IS A PROFOUND CHALLENGE. I DON'T WANT TO NOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH. OUR RESOURCES HAVE BEEN STRETCHED AS FAR AS THEY CAN. OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PERFORM FUNCTIONS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THEIR JURISDICTION NECESSARILY. OUR HOMELESS SHELTERS ARE BEYOND CAPACITY, AND OUR BORDER PATROL AGENTS AND OVERTHROW OFFICERS -- AND OFO OFFICERS ARE WORKING OVERTIME. THEY ARE STRESSED. THERE FAMILIES ARE STRESSED. I HAVE BEEN WARNING FOR SOME TIME, REALLY GOING BACK YEARS, THAT IF CONGRESS FAILED TO ACT ON LEGISLATING THIS ISSUE AND IF CONGRESS CONTINUED TO TREAT IMMIGRATION AS A BORDER-ONLY ISSUE, THINGS WOULD ONLY GET

WORSE. THEY HAVE, AND IF CONGRESS DOES NOT ACT, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GET WORSE. JUDY: WHAT ABOUT IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE? WE SAW THE HOMELAND SURITY SECRETARY WHO WAS THERE IN EL PASO TODAY. WHAT DO YOUEED RIGHT NOW FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND ARE YOU GOING TO GET IT? >> I FEEL GOOD ABOUT FEMA REIMBURSEMENTS. FEMA HAS PRIORITIZED OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHER BORDER COMMUNITIES, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE EITHER REIMBURSING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OR PROVIDING UPFRONT FUNDING IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THIS FROM THE LOCAL LEVEL. WHERE WE NEED A LOT MORE HELP IS REALLY IN A NUMBER OF OTHER WAYS, AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION LATE LAST NIGHT WITH THE APPROPRIATIONS CHAIRWOMAN. WE NEED A BROADER, WHOLE OF GOVERNMENT APPROACH. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN THIS OMNIBUS -- AND WE NEED THIS

OMNIBUS TO BE PASSED BEFORE CHRISTMAS EVE -- THIS OMNIBUS MUST CONTAIN ROBUST FEMA FUNDING FOR HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT AND RELIEF GOING FORWARD. THE OTHER THING I'M EXPECTING IS FEDERALLY RUN EMERGENCY SHORT-TERM SHELTER. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SEE MIGRANTS LIVING ON THE STREETS. THE FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY IS STEPPING UP, AND THEY WILL TRY TO HELP PROVIDE SHELTER, AND THE COUNTY OF EL PASO IS HELPING COLLABORATE WITH THEM, SUPPORT THEM, AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE ABLE TO STAND THOSE UP, BUT WE ALSO NEED A FEDERALLY RUN SHELTER. THIS IS THE SHORT-TERM, RIGHT? THE IMMEDIATE. BUT IN THE LONG TERM -- >> WELL, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT SHORT-TERM BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER REAL CHALLENGE AHEAD, WHICH IS THAT NEXT WEEK, TITLE 42 IS SLATED TO END. THAT'S THE PANDEMIC-ERA POLICY ALLOWING OFFICIALS TO QUICKLY

EXPEL ANYONE ARRIVING AT THE SOUTHERN BORDER. EVERYONE AGREES NUMBERS WILL GO UP WHEN THAT HAPPENS. IS GETTING RID OF TITLE 42 RIGHT NOW A MISTAKE? >> TITLE 42 IS NOT A SOLUTION. FOR TOO LONG, PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED TO IT AS A SOLUTION. YOU HAVE BEEN HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE ARRIVING ATUR NATION'S FRONT DOOR FROM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, AND REALLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE COUNTRIES WHERE TITLE 42 CANNOT BE USED. FOR TITLE 42 TO BE SEEN AS A SOLUTION AND DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ALIKE HAVE BEEN TOUTING IT AS A SOLUTION -- IT IS NOT THE SOLUTION. WHAT WE ARE SEEING HAPPENING IS 80% OF MIGRANTS WHO ARE BEING EXPELLED, BUT PROBABLY ABOUT 20% OF THEM BECAUSE TITLE 42 IS NOT APPLICABLE, CANNOT BE PAROLED INTO THE COUNTRY, BUT MY HOPE IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION

UNDERSTANDS AND COMES TO UNDERSTAND THAT DETERRENCE HAS NOT SOLVED THIS. I THINK THEY KNOW THAT. CONGRESS NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS WELL. TITLE 42 IS, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS MAKES THINGS FAR WOE. IT HELPS PROVIDE MORE VICTIMS TO HUMAN TRAFFICKERS BECAUSE PEOPLE MAKE MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS TO GET IN . I THINK IT FURTHER STRAINS BORDER PATROL, BUT WE'VE GOT TO GET REAL SOLIONS, TANGIBLE SOLUTIONS, AND ONLY CONGRESS CAN DO THAT. >> ON THAT FRONT, YOU ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A DIVIDED CONGRESS IN THE NEW YEAR. REPUBLICANS WILL HOLD T HOUSE MAJORITY. WHERE IS THERE ANY HOPE OF BIPARTISAN IMMIGRATION REFORM IN THE FORM OF LEGISLATION? WHAT REPUBLICANS DO YOU KNOW WHO WILL WORK ON THAT? >> HERE IS THE BIG CHALLENGE -- I DON'T KNOW IF KEVIN MCCARTHY WILL BE THE NEXT SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS THE VOTES TO GET TO 218, BUT HE HAS ANNOUNCED THAT IF HE IS SPEAKER

OF THE HOUSE, THERE WILL BE NO IMMIGRATION-RELATED LEGISLATION THAT GETS TO THE HOUSE FLOOR, SO EVEN IF WE CAN COBBLE TOGETHER SOME SOLUTIONS WITH MODERATE REPUBLICANS, AND THERE ARE STILL SOME MODERATE REPUBLICANS WHO I BELIEVE WANT TO SOLVE THIS, UNFORTUNATELY, KEVIN MCCARTHY IS GIVING IN TO THE MORE EXTREME VOICES IN HIS PARTY, HIS CONFERENCE. WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK AROUND THAT, FOR HIS MODERATE MEMBERS TO ALLOW SOME OF THAT LEGISLATION TO COME TO THE FLOOR. IF WE DON'T GET THAT, WE WILL HAVE TWO YEARS NOT JUST OF THE SAME, BUT REALLY, A SITUATION THAT WILL GET SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE OVER TIME. >> THAT IS CONGRESSWOMAN VERONICA ESCOBAR, DEMOCRAT FROM TEXAS, JOINING US FROM EL PASO TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ♪ JUDY: TWO-TIME OLYMPIC GOLD

MEDALIST BRITTNEY GRINER IS FINALLY BACK IN THE U.S., BUT AFTER 294 DAYS OF BEING DETAINED IN RUSSIA, HER REINTEGRATION TO AMERICAN LIFE IS FAR FROM OVER. STEPHANIE HAS MORE ON HOW THE BASKETBALL STAR IS ADJUSTING TO HER RETURN. STEPHANIE: GOOD EVENING, JUDY. IT TOOK MONTHS OF TIRELESS EFFORTS BEHIND THE SCENES, NOT JUST FROM THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, BUT FROM FRIENDS, FAMY, AND SUPPORTERS, TO SECURE GRINER'S RELEASE. ONE PERSON WHO WORKED AROUND THE CLOCK TO BRING HER HOME, WAS HER AGENT AND FRIEND, WHO JOINS ME NOW. IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON THE PROGRAM. I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. I'M SURE ITS A RELIEF TO HAVE HER BACK. IT HAS BEEN LESS THAN A WEEK. WE ALL WANT TO KNOW HOW SHE IS DOING. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

SHE IS DOING REALLY, REALLY WELL. FOR THOSE WHO KNOW HER, MAYBE THEY ARE NOT THAT SURPRISED. SHE IS INCREDIBLY RESILIENT, AND REALLY KIND, AND SO, SO THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BACK, ESPECIALLY IN TIME FOR THE HOLIDAYS. I KNOW SHE'S GOING TO EMBRACE HER OPPORTUNITY NOW TO ADVOCATE FOR OTHERS GETTING HOME AND SHE IS JUST FULL OF GRATITUDE AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE TIME TO SAMPLE THE FINEST CUISINE OF SAN ANTONIO. SHE HAS HAD MEXICAN. SHE'S HAD PIZZA, AND SHE IS SAMPLING ALL THE BARBECUE, SO SHE IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE REINTEGRATION PROGRAM AND SHE WILL TAKE HER TIME TO MAKE SURE SHE UTILIZES THOSE RESOURCES. >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BARBECUE IN THE PENAL COLONY IN MORTAL VIA, RUSSIA. I WONDER IF THERE WAS ANY TIME IN WHICH YOU DID NOT SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL,

WHERE YOU THOUGHT B.G. MIGHT BE SPENDING THE WINTER AND NINE YEARS IN A RUSSIAN WORK CAMP. >> I DID NOT. I NEVER LOST HOPE. THAT SAID, I SIGNED UP FOR WHATEVER WAS NECESSARY. MY FIRST CONVERSATIONS WITH CHARELLE FOLLOWING HER DETAINMENT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET BRITTNEY HOME. WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO THAT AND DID WHATEVER IT TOOK TO GET HER THERE AND WE DID IT. ON THAT, HER ATTORNEY DID ACTUALLY LEARN HOW TO MAKE BARBECUE AND BROUGHT HER BARBECUE A FEW TIMES WHEN SHE WAS IN PRETRIAL. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALEX AND MARIA, WHO WERE HER RUSSIAN REPRESENTATIVES. BUT WE STAY FOCUSED. WE STAYED DISCIPLINED, AND WE KNEW THAT WE WOULD GET HER HOME. THERE WAS SO MUCH POWER IN THE COALITION THAT SHOWED UP TO ADVOCATE FOR HER AND WE STAY REALLY POSITIVE. >> I KNOW THAT SHE IS RESILIENT. SHE IS AN ELITE ATHLETE, AND SHE

HAS ALSO OVERCOME A LOT OF OBSTACLES THROUGHOUT HER LIFE, BUT ARE THERE TOUGH ISSUES SHE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH AS SHE REINTEGRATE'S? I AM CURIOUS IF SHE IS AWARE OF WHAT A TARGET SHE HAS BECOME POLITICS UPON HER RELEASE. >> SHE IS, AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS REALLY NOTHING NEW TO HER. SHE WAKES UP EVERY MORNING AND HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO ESSENTIALLY BE POLITICAL, JUST BY NATURE OF BEING WHO SHE IS, BUT BEING WHO SHE IS IS WHAT MAKES HER POWERFUL. IT IS WHAT HELPED US GET HER HOME. THE COALITIOTHAT CAME TOGETHER TO GET HER HOME IS REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT IDENTITY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAW AS A LIABILITY. WE DID NOT. AT ELECTED THISE COALITIONY. ADMINISTRATION, AND WE WORK HARD TO BRING THAT COALITION TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS SAYING THE SAME THING AND THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE GOAL WAS, AND THAT WAS ULTIMATELY, GETTING HER HOME. YES, LIFE HAS CHANGED FOR

BRITTNEY. THIS IS NOT A FAME THAT SHE WAS ASKING FOR. SHE HAS NEVER BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT BEING FAMOUS. I THINK SHE WANTED TO BE HAPPY. SHE WANTED TO BE FREE. SHE WANTS TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE BE HAPPY, AND SHE'S GOING TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT OPPOUNITY ALWAYS COMES SACRIFICE AND ALWAYS COMES CHALLENGE, BUT SHE'S GOT A BIG, PASSIONATE, AND EXPERIENCED TEAM TO HELP SUPRT HER IN THAT TRANSITION, AND WE PLAN TO BE THERE NOW JUST LIKE WE WERE WHEN SHE WAS IN DETAINMENT. >> BESIDES JUST BEING HAPPY AND BEING BACK WITH HER WIFE AND FAMILY, WHAT DOES SHE WANT NOW? I KNOW A TON OF PHOENIX MERCURY FANS -- THAT'S WHERE I'M BASED -- THAT WOULD LOVE T SEE HER BACK IN THE WNBA. IS SHE THINKING ABOUT THAT? IS SHE TRAINING? IS SHE PRACTICING? >> I THINKVERYBODY SAW THAT ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS SHE DID ONCE SHE WAS CLEARED TO DO SO WAS FIND A COURT, STRAP ON THOSE

LACK TAILORS, AND HER FIRST MOVE WAS A DUNK -- STRAP ON THOSE BLACK CHUCK TAILORS, AND HER FIRST MOVE WAS A DUNK. HER ATTORNEYS ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED ONE OF THEM TO BRING A BALL, AND SHE SAID NO, AND THAT MADE US ALL DEAL SAD. I WILL LET HER TELL THE STORY OF WHY THAT'S WHAT SHE ANSWERED, BUT I DO THINK IT IS TELLING ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF HER SPIRIT THAT THAT IS WHAT SHE CHOSE TO DO HERE COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND I'M GOING TO LET HER TAKE HER TIME IN MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO NEXT, BUT THANKFULLY, SHE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER SHE WANTS. IF THAT INCLUDES BASKETBALL, I WILL MAKE SURE SHE HAS A CHANCE TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE MOVEMENT #WEARBG THAT HELPED MS. GRINER GET OUT OF THAT SITUATION, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO GAIN THE RELEASE OF

OTHER AMERICANS WHO HAVE BEEN WRONGLY DETAINED, INCLUDING PAUL WHELAN, THE MARINE VET THE RUSSIANS REFUSED TO SWAP. HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT TO BRITTNEY GRINER NOW THAT SHE IS OUT? >> SO IMPORTANT. I TALKED TO HER LAST NIGHT. SHE GOT TO SEE MY KIDS' NEW CHRISTMAS PJS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF WHAT MIGHT BE NEXT, AND SHE RAISED THE IDEA AND SAID THAT SHE HAD BEEN THINKING FOR THE LAST 10 MONTHS ABOUT HOW SHE WAS GOING TO USE HER PLATFORM TO HELP BRING PEOPLE HOME, AND SHE NAMED PAUL SPECIFICALLY. SHE WANTED TO TALK TO HIS FAMILY AS SOON AS SHE GOT BACK HOME-HOME, AND SHE IS TOTALLY COMMITTED TO FIGURING OUT ALL THE WAYS THAT SHE CAN USE THIS PLATFORM NOW TO HELP REUNITE MORE FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THOSE INTERESTING DETAILS AND FOR BEING ON "THE NEWSHOUR." REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. ♪ JUDY: THE UNITED STATES HAS THE

HIGHEST RATES OF INCARCERATION BASED ON POPULATION. ONE INITIATIVE IS TRYING TO BRING MORE LEGAL RESOURCES TO THOSE INCARCERATED OR FACING TRIAL. IT IS PART OF THE "AGENTS FOR CHANGE" SERIES AND OUR ONGOING SERIES, "SEARCHING FOR JUSTICE." >> IT IS NOT UNUSUAL POST-COVID TO SEE HYBRID CLASSROOMS. STUDENTS IN PERSON, STUDENTS ONLINE. WHAT IS UNUSUAL IS WHO THE TWO DISTANT LEARNERS ARE IN THIS FIRST YEAR LAW SCHOOL CLASS. >> I RECEIVED YOUR FEEDBACK. >> MARINE AND JEFF ARE EACH SERVING LIFE SENTENCES IN MINNESOTA PRISONS FOR AIDING AND

ABETTING MURDER IN SEPARATE CASES. THE FIRST STUDENTS EVER ALLOWED TO PURSUE A JURIS DOCTORATE FROM BEHIND BARS. >> LAW SCHOOL IS JUST TOUGH. LEARNING HOW TO READ CASE LAW TAKES A LITTLE WHILE. MY SPEED IS A LITTLE BIT SLOWER, AND THAT GETS FRUSTRATING. ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IS NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH CLASSMATES OUTSIDE OF CLASS. >> I'M JUST HAPPY THAT I'M ABLE TO CONTINUE AND GET GOOD GRADES. I'M GETTING A'S AND B'S. I GOT A C, BUT I'M DOING IT. >> THE PANDEMIC CRACKED OPEN THE DOOR TO FULL-TIME ONLI LAW SCHOOL, WHICH WAS NOT ALLOWED FOR ANYONE UNTIL 2020. THE INITIATI IS CALLED THE LEGAL REVOLUTION, WHICHICKED OFF WITH A GALA CELEBRATION LAST SUMMER. >> WE ARE BUILDING ON MOMENTUM. >> THE PROGRAM GOT WAIVERS FROM THE AMERICAN BAR AOCIATION TO ADMIT TWO INCARCERATED STUDENTS

PER YEAR INTO LAW SCHOOL. THEY GOT FUNDING FROM LAW SCHOOLS AND FOUNDATIONS AND THE GREEN LIGHT FROM MINNESOTA'S CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT. >> I AM SO PROUD AND SO ON ARE -- SO HONORED TO BE PART OF THIS. >> WOULD FOX SAID STUDYING LAW WHILE IN LOUISIANA'S PENITENTIARY HELP HIM EVENTUALLY WIN RELEASE AFTER A WRONGFUL MURDER CONVICTION. >> I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT Y'ALL BASICALLY MY WHOLE LIFE. >> THERE WAS A SHARED AND RARE EXPERIENCE. >> I HEARD THE JUDGE SAY, I SENTENCE YOU TO SPEND THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL LIGHT IN THE CARE OF THE REGION OF CORRECTIONS. I KNOW THE GRAVITY OF THOSE WORDS. >> HE HEARD THOSE WORDS AT AGE 15, ENDING, AMONG OTHER THINGS, ANY DREAMS OF PLAYING FOOTBALL.

>> I WAS ARRESTED FOR A REALLY SERIOUS OENSE. I TOOK PART IN A LARGE FIGHT IN WHICH SOMEONE LOST HIS LIFE, AND I PLAYED PART OF THAT. IF YOU ARE CERTIFIED AS AN ADULT TO FACE THESE TYPES OF OFFENSES, IT DOES NOT MATTER IF YOU ARE 15, YOU ARE PUT IN IMMEDIATELY WITH THE OTHER ADULTS IN THE ADULT PRISON. >> HE SAYS IN HIS CASE, SOME OF THOSE ADULTS BECAME MENTORS, PUSHING HIM TO GET HIS GED -- GED, TO STUDY LAW BOOKS, ADVOCATING FAR MORE THAN HIS PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEYS. >> THEY WOULD GIVE ME BOOKS AND SAY READ THIS BOOK AND COME BACK AND TALK TO ME ABOUT IT. >> HE READ EXHAUSTIVELY, BUT WHAT HE COULD NOT DO WAS CONVINCE HIS COURT-APPOINTED ATTORNEYS THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH A KEY WITNESS' CREDIBILITY. >> I WAS LAUGHED AT. I ALSO SAID IT TO MY PUBLIC DEFENDER ON APPEAL. "I THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE," AND I WAS DISAGREED WITH. THERE WAS CONSISTENT PRESSURE TO TAKE PLEA BARGAINS.

>> FINALLY, HE SAYS A NEW ATTORNEY DID TAKE HIS LEGAL REASONING SERIOUSLY AND BROUGHT IT SUCCESSFULLY BEFORE MINNESOTA 'S SUPREME COURT, WHICH REVERSED HIS LIFE SENTENCE. HE SERVED 17 YEARS. >> IF I WOULD NOT HAVE PUT FORTH MY OWN REASONING, I PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE SITTING IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE TODAY. >> SOME OF THE BEST LEGAL TALENT IN THE WORLD IS SITTING BEHIND BARS RIGHT NOW, AND OUR DISCIPLINE DEEPLY NEEDS THEM AND THEIR VOICES. >> NO WERE MORE THAN IN PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICES SAYS AN ATTORNEY AND FOUNDER OF THE LEGAL REVOLUTION PROJECT. >> I DON'T KNOW ANY PUBLIC DEFENDER THAT WILL NOT OWN UP TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE MORE ON THEIR PLATES THAN ANY HUMAN BEING CAN HANDLE. >> FOR THE INCARCERATED STUDENTS, GRADUATING WITH A LAW DEGREE IS NO GUARANTEE THEY WILL GET A LICENSE TO ACTUALLY PRACCE LAW. A FEW STATES HAVE OUTRIGHT HANDS THAT PROHIBIT ANYONE CONVICTED OF A FELONY FROM BEING ADMITTED TO THE BAR. IN MINNESOTA, THEY MUST GO

BEFORE A STATE BOARD OF LAW EXAMINERS AND MAKE THE CASE THEY HAVE THE APPROPRIATE CHARACTER AND FITNESS TO PRACTICE LAW. MARINE'S FOR IMMEDIATE TASK IS TO MAKE THE CASE AT A PAROLE HEARING NEXT SUMMER. SHE SPENT EIGHT YEARS IN PRISON SO FAR FOR HER ROLE IN A MURDER CONVICT -- MURDER COMMITTED BY HER BOYFRIEND. THE TWO JOE TOGETHER TO THE VICTIM'S HOME, BUT SHE INSISTS SHE HAD NO IDEA OF HER BOYFRIEND'S ATTEMPT. >> I WAS DATING A MAN, I FELL IN LOVE, AND A TERRIBLE CRIME HAPPENED. THE LAW SEES ME AS THE PRINCIPAL. I HAVE NEVER BEEN CHARD WITH ANY VIOLENT CRIME, NEVER HAD A FELONY BEFORE. >> HER APPEALS HAVE BEEN REJECTED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE COURTS. SHE SAYS FOR NOW, SHE IS FOCUSED ON LESSER AWARDS LIKE PASSING THE LAW SCHOOL ENTRANCE EXAM AND THE ACADEMIC RIGOR OF THE YEARS AHEAD. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL BE ABLEO PRACTICE AS A LAWYER, BUT IF YOU TOLD ME 10 YEARS AGO I WOULD BE GOING TO LAW SCHOOL, I WOULD SAY THAT'S UNLIKELY.

THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT CAN HAPPEN YEARS FROM NOW. >> FOR HIS PART, THE LAW SCHOOL DEAN SAYS THE INCARCERATED STUDENTS WERE VETTED LIKE ALL OTHERS FOR THEIR ACADEMIC QUALIFICATIONS. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BRINGING IN PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO USE THE LAW DEGREE IN A WAY THAT IS PRODUCTIVE, BOTH WITH THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT ALSO FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SOCIETY OVERALL. >> WERE YOU GIVEN THE CHANCE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE VICTIM'S FAMILY, WHAT WOD YOUR MESSAGE BE? >> IT WOULD JUST BE THAT I'M SORRY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO TO TAKE BACK THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT DAY. IT IS JUST REALLY HARD BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT I AM, AND I'M JUST SORRY. >> YES, CRIMINALITY IS A REAL THING, AND, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND ALL THAT PLACE IN -- >> BUT EMILY HUNT TURNER SAYS IT IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE PROGRAM'S GOALS.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, EDUCATION AND GAINING COMMUNITY, BEING IN RELATIONSHIPS ARE PROVEN TO BE THE BEST MODE OF TRANSFORMATION. SO IF WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, THE INVESTMENT OF THOSE WHO HAVE ENDED UP BEHIND BARS IS ONE OF THE MOST PROMISING WAYS TO REALLY TALK ABOUT TRANSFORMATION AND SAFETY. >> FOR HER GROUP, THE NEXT STEP IS OPENING A LAW FIRM, WHICH WOULD EMPLOY, AMONG OTHERS, GRADUATES OF ITS PRISON LEGAL EDUCATION PROGRAM. IT COULD BE A DESTINATION FOR JEFF AND MAUREEN AFTER LAW SCHOOL AND, THEY CAN ONLY HOPE, AFTER SUCCESSFUL APPEALS FOR COMMUTED SENTENCES. JUDY: FRED'S REPORTING IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE UNDER TOLD STORIES PROJECT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ST. THOMAS IN MINNESOTA. ♪ THE PREVALENCE OF AUTISM IN THE UNITED STATES HAS INCREASED

DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES, AND THAT HAS COINCIDED WITH A NEW UNDERSTANDING OF JUST HOW BROAD THE AUTISM SPECTRUM IS. THAT IS EXPLORED AND A NEW DOCUMENTARY AIRING TONIGHT ON PBS. >> AN ESTIMATED ONE IN 44 CHILDREN ARE DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER IN THE U.S., MAKINGT ONE OF THE MOST COMMON DEVELOPMENT OF DISABILITIES. IN A NEW FILM AIRING TONIGHT ON PBS CALLED "IN A DIFFERENT KEY," THE FILMMAKERS TACKLE THE HISTORY OF AUTISM. IT INCLUDES A PORTRAIT OF THE FIRST PERSON EVER DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM IN THE U.S., A MAN NAMED DON TRIPLETT, WHO STILL LIVES IN THE SMALL TOWN IN MISSISSIPPI WHERE HE WAS RAISED. >> ONCE YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND IT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO NOT WANT TO PULL FOR HIM AND ROOT FOR HIM. IN A COMMUNITY LIKE FOREST, ONE REACTION HE EVOKED FROM THE TOWNSPEOPLE WAS HE'S GOT SOME ODD BEHAVIORS AND

ECCENTRICITIES, BUT HE IS OUR GOD. >> AUTISM ALSO HAS VERY DEEP AND PERSONAL CONNECTIONS TO BOTH FILMKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. THEY JOINED ME NOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN. IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU BOTH. THE FILM TELLS THE STORIES OF MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH AUTISM, DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, DIFFERENT AGES, SOME WITH PROFOUND AUTISM, SOME LEADING INDEPENDENT LIVES, BUT IT IS THROUGH THE STORY OF MR. TRIPLETT, WHO IS NOW 89 YEARS OLD, THAT WE SEE THE EVOLUTION OF THE WAYS IN WHICH AUTISM HAS BEEN VIEWED AND TREATED. >> DONALD TRIPLETT IS CASE NUMBER ONE. WITHOUT HIM, WE WOULD NOT BE CALLING IT AUTISM. WE WERE FORTUNATE WITH SOME SLEUTHING TO TRACK HIM DOWN BACK IN 2007. ONCE WE KNEW WHERE HE LIVED AND THAT WAS HIS HOME, WE DECIDED THAT WE REALLY SHOULD NOT JUST SHOW UP ON HIS DOORSTEP BECAUSE HE LIVED IN PRIVACY. HE DID NOT EVEN KNOW HE HAD AUTISM UNTIL WE CAME INTO HIS LIFE. WE REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE WE KNEW WHO KNEW HIM AND ASKED FOR

INTRODUCTIONS. PEOPLE WERE GENERALLY WILLING, BUT IT CAME WITH A WARNING. >> THEY SAID, WE WILL INTRODUCE YOU TO HIM, BUT IF YOU MESS WITH HIM IN ANYWAY, WE WILL TRACK YOU DOWN AND WE WILL GET YOU. THAT WAS THE THING IS THAT WE KNEW AT THAT MOMENT EVEN BEFORE WE ARRIVED THAT THIS WAS A COMMUNITY THAT WAS EMBRACING THIS MAN AND PROTECTING HIM FOR HIS WHOLE LIFE BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY IN HIS 80'S. >> YOU EXPLORE IN THE FILM HOW DECADES AGO, PEOPLE WITH AUTISM WERE PUT AWAY IN INSTITUTIONS. YOSAY THEY WERE DUMPING GROUNDS FOR THE UNWANTED -- THAT'S HOW YOU DESCRIBE IT IN THE FILM. WHAT STRUCK ME AS THAT WAS WHAT WAS EXPECTED. THERE WAS SO MUCH SHAME AND REALLY CONFUSION TIED TO AUTISM THAT CHILDREN WERE BEING WAREHOUSED, AND THAT STARTED EVEN EARLIER WITH PRETTY MUCH ANY KIND OF DISABILITIES. >> THESE PLACES, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY -- THEY WERE CALLED SCHOOLS,

CALLED HOSPITALS, BUT THEY BECAME PLACES THAT WERE UNDERSTAFFED AND OVER PACKED WITH PEOPLE WITH VERY POOR RESOURCES THAT NOBODY WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF SHAME, AND THERE WAS BLAME. THE LEADING THEORY WAS KIDS WITH AUTISM WERE BORN TO MOTHERS WHO RE COLD AND DID NOT KNOW HOW TO CONNECT WITH THEIR KIDS. IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES, IF MY SON HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED BACK THEN, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY FAULT. THAT'S WHAT PSYCHIATRISTS TOLD PARENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY BELIEVED, AND THEY COULD NOT HAVE BEEN MORE WRONG. SOCIETY BLAMES MOTHERS, SENT KIDS AWAY. DOCTORS TOLD YOU, FORGET ABOUT -- THAT YOU EVER HAD THEM, AND GO ON WITH YOUR LIFE. IT WAS A VERY BAD TIME. EUGENICS. THAT WHOLE PERIOD WAS A BAD TIME IN OUR HISTORY. WE HAVE COME REALLY FAR, BUT NOW WE HAVE NEW ISSUES WE DID NOT HAVE BEEN. PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENCE ARE OUT THERE NOW, AND SOCIETY NEEDS TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THEM, AND TO SOME EXTENT, THAT WAS THE BASIS OF CREATING A FILM LIKE THIS. >> AS I MENTIONED, THE ISSUE IN

THIS FILM IS PERSONAL FOR YOU BOTH. YOUR SON WAS DIAGNOSED AS A TODDLER, WHICH YOU EXPLORE IN THE FILM. >> ALL THE YEARS I HAVE KNOWN HIM, MITCH -- MICKEY HAS BEEN TEACHING ME MORE ABOUT AUTISM THAN ANYONE. >> YOU SAY IN THE FILM THAT IF NIKKI IS REALLY GOING TO MAKE IT OUT THERE, I NEED TO KNOW THAT EVERYONE EE IS GOING TO MAKE ROOM FOR HIM. WHAT DOES MAKING ROOM FOR HIM LOOK LIKE? >> WE BELIEVE, AND THAT'S WHY JOHN AND I DIRECTED THIS FILM TOGETHER, THAT IF PEOPLE UNDERSTAND AND HAVE INSIGHT INTO CLEARER UNDERSTANDING, REALLY, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT, THAT -- AND THEY SEE THAT IT IS NOT SO HARD TO HAVE THE BACK OF SOMEBODY WHO IS DIFFERENT, THAT THEY WILL. I'M NOT 1000% SURE. I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL MY HEART, BUT THAT'S THE BEST SHOT WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE DIFFERENT TO MAKE IT. >> I THINK ANOTHER PIECE OF THAT , AND CHOOSES -- IS TRUE FOR THE PARENT OF ANY CHILD THAT HAS A DISABILITY, THEY RIGHT NOW ARE

THE MAIN CAREGIVERS FOR THEIR CHILD, BUT TY KNOW THEY WILL NO ALWAYS BE THERE. IN THE CASE OF AUTISTIC PEOPLE WHO ARE NAVIGATING THROUGH SOCIETY NOW, AND SOME ARE STILL STRUGGLING, WHAT THEY NEED IS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO ACCEPT THEM IN THE MOMENTS OF INTERACTION AND THE REST OF US HAVE SO MUCH IMPACT ON IF SOMEBODY ON THE SPECTRUM GETS TO BELONG, IN THE WORKPLACE, CLASSROOM, AT A BALLPARK, MOVIE THEATER, RESTAURANT, BY HOW WE CAN RESPOND TO THEIR DIFFERENCE. ON THAT POINT OF LONGING, IN THE FILM, YOU INTRODUCE US TO A MOTHER NAMED STEPHANIE PARKS -- ON THAT POINT OF BELONGING. SHE TALKS ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE A RANGE OF DIFFERENT DIFFICULTIES. HER SON IS A YOUNG BLACK MAN. HE HAD A HARD TIME JUST GETTING DIAGNOSED. QUICKLY HAD A THREE-YEAR-OLD STILL IN DIAPERS, COMPLETELY NOT POTTY TRAINED, COMPLETELY NONVERBAL. HE WAS LINING UP TOYS IN GRIDS ACROSS OUR FLOOR. I MEAN, WE HAD EVERY RED FLAG

POSSIBLE, AND WE STILL COULD NOT MANAGE TO GET A DIAGNOSIS. WE WENT TO THE PEDIATRICIAN SEVERAL TIMES AND GOT THE SAME TYPE OF RESPONSE THAT MOST FAMILIES GET, ESPECIALLY BLACK FAMILIES, WHICH IS THE BOY IS A LITTLE SLOW, SLOWER THAN OTHER KIDS, MAYBE. YOU KNOW, HE'LL CATCH UP. >> WHAT KIND OF ADDED ISSUES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR FACE? >> THE CRITERIA THAT ARE USED TO DIAGNOSE AN AUTISTIC CHILD HAVE BEEN BASED ON THE BEHAVIOR AND LANGUAGE PRIMARILY OF WHITE, MALE CHILDREN. THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS. IT DOES NOT APPLY NECESSARILY TO GIRLS, AND IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY APPLY TO PEOPLE OF COLOR, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE RATE OF DIAGNOSIS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S LESS AUTISM AMONG CHILDREN OF COLOR, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. IT IS THAT THE DIAGNOSIS OF CHILDREN OF COLOR IS LOWER BECAUSE, AS SHE SAYS, THERE IS AN INHERENT BIAS IN THE CRITERIA ITSELF.

THE REASON THAT IS A PROBLEM IS THAT IT DELAYS THE TIME FOR A CHILD OF COLOR TO START GETTING HELP, ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLY PART OF THEIR LIVES. THAT IS A CRITICAL PERIOD, TWO TO FIVE. >> EARLY DIAGNOSIS IS ESSENTIAL. THERE IS AN INHERENT RACIAL BIAS , SO THESE KIDS START OUT AT A DISADVANTAGE. EVEN IF THEY ARE DIAGNOSED WITH SOMETHING, IF IT IS NOT AUTISM, YOU ARE TAKING THEM DOWN THE WRONG PATH. >> YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DOCUMENTARY FOR YEARS. AS YOU PRODUCED IT, WHAT SURPRISED YOU? >> FOR ME, IT IS IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OR SO HOW BROAD THE SPECTRUM HAS BECOME. WHEN MY SON WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED, YOU DID NOT HAVE TELEVISION SHOWS OF SPEAKING SAVANTS AND DOCTORS AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED INDEPENDENT LIVES, WHICH IS GREAT AR WTHEEE SWITHOP AG UTISM LEOUT THERE, T WE ARE NOT HEARING AT ALL ANYMORE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MORE PROFOUND AUTISM, WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, AND THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK FOR

THEM ARE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, AND WITHOUT THEIR VOICES, THEY DON'T GET HURT AT ALL -- THEY DON'T GET HEARD AT ALL. THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, AND THEY COME IN ALL DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES AND COLORS. >> THE DOCUMENTARY IS FANTASTIC. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FILM "IN A DIFFERENT KEY" ERRORS TONIGHT ON PBS. JUDY: WE ARE SO GRATEFUL THAT PBS IS AIRING THIS TONIGHT. ONLINE, WE TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WASHINGTON, D.C., IS EXPECTED TO BECOME THE LARGEST CITY IN THE U.S. TO OFFER FREE BUS SERVICES AFTER LEGISLATION WAS PUSHED FORWARD EARLIER THIS MONTH. THE MOVE COMES AMID AN EFFORT TO BRING FREE PUBLIC TRANSPORT TO CITIES ALL ACROSS THE U.S. IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE, PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR. AND THAT IS THE "NEWSHOUR" FOR TONIGHT.

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I have to stop and pinch myself. Pati: Wow! So stunning! Man: It's just a beautiful place. Pati, voice-over: Today, I'm exploring this enchanting landscape with world-class climbers who are putting Monterrey's outdoor scene on the international map. This looks so scary to me. Pati: But afterwards, we'll need to refuel at their favorite elote stand, the perfect post-climbing snack. In these same majestic mountains, I'm having dinner with 4 top chefs from Monterrey... Ooh, baby. to share in one of the most time-honored traditions of the North... Beautiful! the carne asada. I make the best arroz de boda in the country, lady. What do you think, you know?