PBS NewsHour; October 11, 2018 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

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>> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M DY WOODRUFF. ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, WIPED OUT: HURRICANE MICHAEL LEAVES A DEADLY PATH OF DESTRUCTION ALONG THE U.S. GULF COAST AND INLAND THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST. THEN, WITH LESS THAN A MONTH UNTIL VOTES ARE COUNTED IN THE MIDTERMS, WE TAKE A LOOK AT ELECTION SECURITY IN THE UNITED STATES. PLUS, THE PLASTIC PROBLEM--RE MAKING SENSE OCLING'S UNCERTAIN FUTURE.

>> IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM, WE NEED TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BUY OUR OWN RECYCLABLES AND USE OUR OWN RECYCLABLES IN AMERICAN MANUFACTURING, AND MAKE SURE THATE'RE NOT RELIANT ON EXPORTS.

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>> Woodruff: THE GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA CALLS IT "UNIMAGINABLE STRUCTION." IT'S THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE, 24 HOURS AFTER HURRICANE "MICHAEL"E SMASHORE. THE STORM LEFT AT LEAST SIX DEAD, HUNDREDS UNACCOUNTED FOR, D SOME ONE MILLION CUSTOMERS WITH NO POWER, ACROSS FOUR STATES. DLLLIAM BRANGHAM SPENT MUCH OF THIS DAY IN THE PAE, AND REPORTS FROM QUINCY, FLORIDA.

>> Brangham: AS HURRICANE MICHAEL CAME ASHORE, ROOFS WENT FLYING.

>> HE SAID, "MOVE, MOVE, MOVE" AND THE DOOR FLEW OPEN AND THE ROOF BLEW OF

>> Brangham: TREES TOPED OVER. THE FULL FORCE OF THE STORM, WITH ITS 155 MILE PER HOUR WINDS BORE DOWN ON THE COASTAL TOWNS OF PANAMA CITY AND MEXICO BEACH ALONG FLORIDA'S PANHANDLE. MANY OF MEXICO BEACH'S BUILDINGS APPEARED TO BE PULVERIZED BY THE STORM, BEARING THE BRUNT OF THE IMPACT. AS THE WINDS FINALLY RELENTED, AND DAY BROKE, AN ARMY UTILITY WORKERS MOBILIZED, FANNING OUT TO RESTORE ELECTRICITY FOR THE NEARLY ONE MILLION CUSTOMERS WITHOUT POWER ROSS THE SOUTHEAST. FLORIDA GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT.

>> WE'RE DEPLOYING A MASSIVE WAVE OF RESPONSE AND THOSE EFFORTS ARE ALREADY ON WAY. HELP IS COMING BY AIR, LAND AND SEA.

>> Brangham: SOME OF THE HARDEST HIT AREAS HERE IN THE PANHANDLE ARE STILL TOO DIFFICULT TO REACH, AND IT'S JUST MILES AND MILES THAT LOOK LIKE THIS-- TREES HAVE COME DOWN, TAKEN POWER LINES WITH THEM, LEAVING WHOLE COUNITIES STRANDED. LOCAL OFFICIALS SAID THE SCOPE OF THE DAMAGE WAD OVERWHELMING VASTATING.

>> WE HAVE A LOT OF DOWNED TREES, A LOT OF BLOCKED ROADS. POWER OUTAGES. ALMOST UBIQUITOUS AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE GETTING EVERYBODY UP ONLINE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. O IT'S N FIRST RODEO, WE'VE DONE IT THE LAST TWO YEARS, GETTING PRETTY GOOD AT IT, MAKING HEADWAY BY THE MINUTE.

>> Brangham: THE STORM SURGE CRASHED PAST TREES AND ONTO THE ROADS NEAR APALACHICOLA NATIONAL FOREST. MANYF THE PINE TREES THAT TH PANHANDLE IS FAMOUS FOR WERE DECIMATED. >>T SNAPPED TREES LIKE THE WERE TOOTHPICKS. THERE WAS NOTHING TO IT. SO, I'M GLAD I AM STILL HERE. I'M GLAD I SURVIVED, I'M GLAD THE CAR MADE IT.

>> I PRAYED A LOT. I WAS IN A BUNKER, ALMOST A BUNKER. AND JUST PRAYERS. AND HOW HALF OF THIS MISSED US, I HAVE NO GODLY IDEA.

>> Brangham: LAST NIGHT, SHEETS OF RAIN AND WIND BUFFETED THE COASTLINE FOR HOURS ON END. SCIENTISTS SAY THESE INCREASINGLY STRONG HURRICANES HAVE BEEN INTENSIFIED BY THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AS WARMER WATER PROVIDES MORE OF THE ENERGY AND MOISTE THAT FEEDS THE STORM. PRESIDENT TRUMP PRAISED THE RESPONSE.

>> EVERYBODY'S GOTTEN RAVE REVIEWS. I JUST SPOKE WITH GOVERNOR SCOTT. THEY'RE VERY HAPPY, FOOD IS BEING NOW, FOLLOWING THEIC HUE, BEING BROUGHT IN. WE HAVE UNBELIEVABLE LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER AND FOOD AND EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE CAN WANT

>> Brangham: TRNING, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE SAID THE GOVERNMENT WAS ACTIVELGED.

>> THE PRESIDENT AND I ARE CUSED ON RESPONSE EFFORT WE'VE TAKEN DECISIVE ACTION IN THIS COUNT IN COORDINATION AS WE SPEAK, FOCUSED ON LIFESAVING MISSION, SEARCH AND RESCUE TO ASSIST WITH LIFESAVING IMPACTS OF THIS HURRICANE.

>> BSngham: THE STORM MADE IT WAY UP THE SOUTHEAST COAST, AND DUMPED MORRAIN ON ALREADY SATURATED NORTH CAROLINA. GOVERNOR ROY COOPER SAID THE STATE WAS ON HIGH ALERT FOR MORE FLOODING.

>> THE RAIN OVER SIX INCHES IN PARTS OF NORTHNOAROLINA. H CAROLINA WAS SPARED THE VICIOUS BEATING MICHAEL BROUGHT TO FLORIDA AND PARTS OF GE THIS STORM WILL NOT GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT. IT IS STILL A REAT AND SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, PARTICULARLY WITH STORM SURGE, HIGH WINDS, FLOODING AND THE THREAT OF TORNADOES.

>> FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR IN THE PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA, I'M

>> Woodruff: I SPOKE WITH WILLIAM A SHORT TIME AGO FROM WILLIAM, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE ABOUT 70 MILES FROM THE COAST WHERE THE STORM CAME HORE. TELL US WHAT IT IS LIKE WHERE YOU ARE.

>> WELL, JUDY, INTR THEETCH WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR, IT IS A STORY OF TREE AFTER TREE AFTER TREE AFTER TREE BEING YKNOCKED OVER B HURRICANE MICHAEL. I MEAN, THIS STRETCH OF THE PANHANDLE IS KNOWNTSFOR I LUSH CANOPY, AND NOW THE HIGH WE OF THAT STORM HAVE TURNED ALL THOSE TREES INTO-- INTO THISHT COMMUNITY'S NRE. POWER LINES HAVE BEEN KNOCKED DOWN. IT'S PART OF WHY THERE ARE OVER ONE MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO POWER. THOSE HIGH WINDS THAT CAME IN LATE LAST NIGHT, ALSO HAVE KNOCKED DOWN ALL THE CELL PHONE TOWERS AROUND HERE SO COMMUNICATION IS VERY DIFFICULT. WE HEARD ON THE R TODAY ONE LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICIAL WHO WAS USING THE RADIO, A RADIO INTERVIEW, TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH ONE OF THEIR OWN EMERGENCY MANAGERS SOMEWHERE TAT THEY COULDN'T FIND THEM, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T PICK UP A PHONE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WOK. SO RESTORING POWER HAS BEEN THE HUGE ISSUE HERE. ME.MIGHT HEAR TRUCKS BEHIND THAT'S REALLY THE ARMADA OF UTILITY TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THIS ENTIRE AREA TRYING TO RESTORE POWER. BUT JUST FROM WHAT WE SAW, TE AMOUNT OF POWER LINES WE SAW DUN ON THE GROUND, IT WILL BE A LONG TIME FONIR THESE COMES TO GET THEIR POWER BACK.

>> Woodruff: SEEING THOSE EMAGES FROM THE COAST IN MEXICO BEACH AND PANAMA CITYTHE DESTRUCTION SEEMED SO SEVERE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, JUDY. THE DEVASTATION ALO THE COASTLINE IS JUST-- THERE REALLY ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW BAD THAT DAMAGE I AND I THINK THAT'S SIMPLY A FUNCTION OF IF YOU HAVE A CATEGORY 4 STORM-- IT WAS VERY NEARLY A CATEGORY 5-- COMING IN, 155-MILE-AN-HOUR WINDS, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO. IF YOU REMEMBER, HURRICANE ANDREW HIT FLORIDA IN 1992, AND BUILDING CODES ACROSS THE STATE WERE STRENGTHENED. BUT IN THE FACEAVE CATEGORY 4 WITH ALREADY HIGH TITS AND T WALL OF WATER AND THAT AMOUNT OF WIND, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN RE-ENGINEER AGAINST THAT CIECHED A FORCE. SO REALLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE ONGOING CHALLENGES HERE IS HOW DO THEY REBUILD KNOWING THIS STORM, THIS KIND OF A STORM COULD COME AGAIN NEXT WEEK, NEXT MONTH, NEXT YEAR?

>> Woodruff: AND I UNDERSTAND SOME MEDICAL FACILITIES WERE DAMAGED, AND OFFICIALS HAVE HAD TO EVACUATE PATIENTS?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, JUDY. IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT AT LET TWO HOSPITALS IN PANAMA CITY, FLORIDA, RIGHT ALONG COAST, HAD TO EVACUATE THEIR PATIENTS. THEY'VE LOST POWER. THEY HE NO FRESH WATER MING IN THERE. WE BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 300 PATIENTS THAT HAD TO BE EVACUATED. BAY MEDICAL, APPARENTLY, WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER HOSPITALS THERE. THEY HAD INTENSE DAMAGE TO THEIR INTENSIVE CARE UNIT. THERE WERE WINDOWS KNOCKED OUT. APPARENTLY THERE WAS FLOODING E BUILDING. SO IF A HOSPITAL CAN'T KEEP THE POWER ON REGULARLY, CAN'T GET FRESH WATER TO RUN THE TOITOLETS AN SIMPLY HAVE DRINKING WATER, IT'S SIMPLY SAF SO THEY ARE MOVING PATIENTS OUT HOSPITALS TOEARBY HOSPITAL THE EAST AND THE WEST THAT MIGHT HAVE SOME POWER SO WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT CLOSELY.WI

>> Woodruff:LIAM, THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, JUDY.

>> Woodruff: NOW WE EXPLORE THE STORS DAMAGE FURTHER WITH FLORIDA'S U.S. SENATOR BILL NELSONS HE JOINS FRNAMA CITY BEACH. SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR TALKING WITH US. I KNOW YOU'VE SEENURRICANES BEFORE. HOW DOES THIS ONE COMPARE?

>> THIS IS THE LARGEST ONE, THE MOST DIFFICULT ONE, AND CERTAINLY IN MY LIFETIME, TO HIT THE PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA. I THINK YOU'D HAE TO COMPARE THE DESTRUCTIVE FORCE TO THAT OF HURRICANE ANDREWT HIT SOUTH MIAMI-DADE COUNTY BACK IN '92. BUT THIS O, FORTUNATELY, DID NOT HIT A POPULATED PART OF ITS MOST-DESTRUCTIVE FORCES, WHICH WERE EAST OF PANAMA CITY. AND I THINK THE LITTLE TOWN OF MEXICO BEACH, WHEN WE N GET I THERE-- AND IT'S ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY HELICOPTER NOW-- WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE DIRECT RESULT OF THE WATER AND CATEGORY-4 WINDS COMING DIRECTLY OFF OF THE GULF WITHT A BARRIER ISLAND OI THERE TO BREAK IT UP.

>> Woodruff: WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT SEE? AND, SENATOR, WHAT ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING PEOPLE NEED RIGHT

>> WELL, NOW'S THE TIME FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO COME TO EVERYBODY'S ASSISTANCE. THE HURRICANE HAS PASSED. YOU CAN THE WEATHER IS GREAT, BECAUSE THE HURRICANE IS JUNKG SO FAST, ALL OF THE AROUND IT IS LONG GONE. BUT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED A LOT OF HELP AROUND HERE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. AND YOU SAID WHAT DO I EXPECT IN MEXI BEACH? I FEAR THE WORST. IF PEOPLE HUNKERED DOWN, I HOPE WE FIND THEM ALIVE.

>> Woodruff: WELL, WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT'S-- WE HOPE AS MANY RVIVED AS POSSIBLE. SENATOR, SO WHEN YOU SAY THE NEED IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR SOME TIME TO COME, WHAT DO U MEAN? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POWER? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUTENSUS >>INGS, FOOD, HOUSING, WHAT ELSE? N THE WAY HERE, I CAME THROUGH PINE FORESTS THAT WERE JUST STICKS, AND, OTHERWISE, THEY WERE ALL APPED IN TWO. WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF DESTRUCTIVE FORCE AND YOU APPLY IT TO BUILDINGS-- LIKE THIS ONE BEHIND ME, AND WEARE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STORM, SO THIS WASN'T WHERE THE WORST WINDS WERE. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED HOUSING, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED FOOD. IT'S GOING TO TE SOME TIME TO GET ELECTRICITY UP, BECAUSE ELECTRICITY, ALL THE LINES ARE DOWN. THIS PLACE WILL BE COMPLETELY DARK ONCE THE SUN GOES DOWN. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING. WHAT TYPICALLY YOU WOULD FIND A HURRICANE AFTER THE HURRICANE HAS PASD. Woodruff: SO ARE YOU CONFIDENT, SENATOR, THAT FEMA, THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY ANAGEMENT AGENCY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE AB TO DO WHAT'S NECESSARY?

>> WELL, IT HAS TO. CERTAINLY, HOPE IT DOESN'T DO FOR THE PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA WHAT IT DID IN PUERTO RICO, BECAUSE THEY WERE TREATED AS SECOND-CLASS CITINS BUT FEMA, IF IT'S ON THE BALL, IT WON'T THE SECOND-CLASS JOB, AND THEY'VE GOT OPLE PLIESSITIONED HERE, SUP PREPOSITIONED. SO THEY SHOULD BE IN A GOOD SHAPE TO GET FOLKS WHAT THNEEY . BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A SLOW REBUILDING PROCESS.

>> Woodruff: AND, SENATOR, WHAT ABOUT INLAND IN FLORIDA? WE KNOW THE STORM MOVED QUICKLY UP THROUGH THE PANHANDLE ANDN INTO GEORGIA. ARE YOU HEARING-- WHAT ARE YOU UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THT OF THE STATE?

>> WOMAN, I CAN TELL YOU, SIN THE INTERSTATE WAS SHUT DOWN, I HAD DIVERTED TO GO INTO GEORGIA AND GO AROUND THE DESTRUCTION. AND EVEN UP INTO GEORGIA AS FAR AS BAINBRIDGE, THE TREES WERE ALL OVER THE ROAD THAT FINALLY WE HAD TO GIVE UP AND TURN AROUND AND COME BACK TO THE INTERSTATE, AND FINAL LIE THED INTERSTATE OPEUP AND I WAS ABLE TO GET INTO PANAMA CITY.

>> Woodruff: WELL, SENATOR, OF COURSE, ALL OF US ARE HOPING FOR THE VERY BEST. YOUR OPPONENT IN THE SENATE RACE, GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT, SAYS HE'S GOING TO BE SUSPENDING HIS CAMPAIGNING FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. ARE YOU DOING THE SAME THING?

>> YES, MA'AM. WE'VE SUSPENDED OUR COMMERCIALS THIS AREA. BY THE WAY, IN OTHER PATS OF FLORIDA, HE HAS NOT. BUT NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT POLITICS. NOW IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE MADE WHOLE AGAIN AND GETTING THEM WHERE THEY CAN LIVE THEIR NORMAL LIVES. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.

>> Woodruff: SENATOR BILL NELSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WISHING EVERYBODY THERE THE VERY BEST WITH THIS RECOVERY.

>> THANKS, JUDY. IN THE DAY'S OTHER NEWS, A STOCK SELL-OFF RIPPLED AROUND THE GLOBE, AND WALL STREET TOOK HEAVY LOSSES AGAIN. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE PLUMMETED 546 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 25,052. IT'S DOWN MORE THAN 1,000 POINTS IN THE LAST TWO DAYS, ENE BIGGEST PEGE DROP SINCE PBRUARY. THE NASDAQ FELL NTS, AND THE S&P 500 LOST 57. RISING INTEREST RATES AREIV HELPING THE SELL-OFF. TODAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP CHARGED AGAIN THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS RAISING RATES TOO QUICKLY.

>> I THINK THE FED IS OUT OF CONTROL. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS ONG. I THINK THE FED IS FAR TOO STRINGT AND THEY'RE MAKING A MISTAKE AND IT'S NOT RIGHT, AND DESPITE THAT WE'RE DOING VERY WE. BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY IN MY OPINION, AND I THINK I KNOW ABOUT IT BETTER THAN THEY DO. E, Woodruff: AT THE SAME T MR. TRUMP SAID HE DOES NOT INTEND TO FIRE JEROME POWELL, THE FED CHAIRMAN. IN INDONESIA, THE SEARCH FOR EARTHQUAKE AND TSUNAMI VICTIMS HAS NOW BEEN EXTENDED THROUGH TOMORROW. RESCUE CREWS ON SULAWESI ARELO STING FOR BODIES, WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MISSING. THE CONFIRMED DEATH TOLL HAS TEACHED TO 2,073. THE NATIONAL DISAGENCY SAID TODAY IT COULD TAKE TWO YEARS FOR THE AREA TO RECOVER. A U.S. ASTRONAUT AND A RUSSIAN COSMONAUT ARE SAFE AFTER THEIR BOOSTER ROCKET FAILED DURING A LAUNCH TODAY. THEY BLASTED OFF FROM KAZAKHSTAN, BOUND FOR THE INTERNATIONASPACE STATION, BUT MINUTES LATER, THEY WRENCHED FREE OF THE MALFUNCTIONING ROCKET. ALS WITH NASA SAID THE RUSSIAN SPACECRAFT HELPED THE MEN SURVIVE THE HARROWING FALL.

>> THE SOYUZ IS A ROBUST, REDUNDANT RELIABLE MACHINE THAT HAS LOT OF FLIGHTS UNDER ITS BELT. AND IN THIS CASE, IT HAD AN ASSET ANOMALY. IT HAS A GREAT ABORT SYSTEM THAT BROUGHT OUR CREW BACK TO EARTH

>> Woodruff: IN RESPONSE, THE RUSSIANS SUSPENDED ALL MANNED FLIGHTS WHILE AN INVESTIGATION PROCEEDS. SINCE THE U.S. RETIRED THE SPACE SHUTTLES, RUSSIAN ROCKETS ARE THE ONLY WAY HUMANS CAN REACH THE SPACE STION. AN AMERICAN GRADUATE STUDENT DETAINED IN ISRAEL APPEARED IN COURT TODAY. LARA ALQASEM HAS BEEN HELD SINCE ARRIVING AT BEN GURION AIRPORT LAST WEEK. SHE FACES DEPORTATION FOR ALLEGEDLY BACKING A BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL. THE ISRAELIS SAYS SHE IS FREE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY. THERE'S NO INDICATION OF WHEN THE COURT WILL RULE ON HER APPEAL. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE WASHINGTON STATE SUPREME COURT UNANIMOUSLY STRUCK DOWN THE STATE DEATH PENALTY LAW. THE COURT RULED THE LAW HAS BEEN USED ARBITRARILY AND IN A WAY THAT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST MINORITIES. WAMINGTON HAS HAD A MORATOR ON EXECUTIONS SINCE 2014. IT IS NOW THE 20th STATE TO ELIMINATE THE DEATH PENALTY. ORK TODAYRS IN NEW DROPPED PART OF THE SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE AGAINST FORMER PRMOVIUCER HARVEY WEINSTEIN. LUCIA EVANS WAS ONE OF THETOIRST CCUSE WEINSTEIN, A YEAR AGO.OS BUT PRUTORS SAY A POLICE ESDETECTIVE MAY HAVE SUPPRD INFORMATION THAT UNDERCUT HER CLAIM. WEINSTEIN HEARD THE ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY IN A MANHATTAN COURT. AFTERWARD, LAWYERS HAD DECIDEDLY DIFFERENT TAKES.

>> WE ARE PLEASED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE CASE IS NOT REER, BUT I THINK IT IS PERMANENTLY AND RABLY DAMAGED. WE WILL SEEK TO SMISS THE INDICTMENT, ALL OF THE COUNTS.

>> THE PROSECUTIONS DECISION TO ABANDON MY CLIENTS CLAIMS DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE TRUTH OF HER CLAIMS. THE CASE AGAINST HARVEY F WEINSTEIN IS FM OVER AND WE EXPECT THE D.A. TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> Woodruff: WEINSTEIN STILL MECES CRIMINAL CHARGES INVOLVING TWO NEARLY 70 OTHERS HAVE COME FORWARD TO MAKE SIMILAR ACCUSATIONS. THE CASE HELPED SPARK ETOO MOVEMENT. SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFICIARIES WILL SEE A BOOST IN THEIR ANNUAL COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, OR "COLA," NEXT YEAR. THE PROGRAM TODAY ANNOUNCED AN INCREASE OF 2.8% TO KEEP PACE WITH INFLATION. THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT $39 ATH MONTH FOAVERAGE RETIRED WORKER. AND, PRESIDENT TRUMP WELCOMED RAPPER KANYE WEST AND FORMER PRO FOOTBALL GREAT JIM BROWN TO THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY TO DISCUSS EVERYTHING FROM PRISON REFORM TO WELFARE. IN AN OVAL OFFICE SESSION, WEST HEAPED PRAISE ON THE PRECHDENT, AND LA INTO FREE-FORM COMMENTARY.EX

>> PEOPLCT THAT IF YOU'RE BLACK YOU HAVE TO BE DEMOCRAT. I HAVE A-- I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT BASICALLY SAID THAT WELFARE IS THE REASON WHY A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE END UP BEING DEMOCRAT. THEY SAY, YOU KNOW FIRST OF ALL IT'S A LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF JOBS. SO THEATHERS LOSE THE JOBS. AND THEY SAY WE'LL GIVE YOU MORE MONEY FOHAVING MORE KIDS IN YOUR H IT WAS SOMETHING ABO WHEN I PUT THIS HAT ON AND MADE ME FEEL LIKE SUPERMAN. YOU MADE A SUPERMAN.RI THAT'S MY FA SUPERHERO. AND YOU MADE A SUPERMAN CAPE FOR ME. WE CAN EMPOWER OUR FACTORIES. WE CAN BRING NOT ONLY ADIDAS C SHORE LD BRING FOXCONN TO SET UP A FACTORY. I THINK MINNESOTA MAYBE 3,000.

>> WISCONSIN, WISCONSIN.

>> YEAH WISCONSIN, THEY HAVE 4,000 JOBS PEOPLE MAKING $53,000 A YEAR. BUT WHEN WE MAKE EVERYTHING IN CHINA AND AMERICA THEN WE'RE CHEATING ON OUR COUNTRY AND WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN POSITIONS THAT HAVE TO DO ILLEGAL THINGS TO END UP IN A EAPEST FACTORY EVER: THE PRISON SYSTEM.

>> I TELL YOU WHAT, THAT WAS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. THAT WAS QUITE SOMETHING.

>> IT WAS FROM THE SOUL. I JUST CHANNELED IT.

>> Woodruff: FOR MORE ON THIS, OUR WHITE HOUSE CORRENT YAMICHE ALCINDOR JOINS ME NOW. SO, YAMICHE, YOU WERE TELLING ME AFTER KANYE WEST'S COMMENST, THERE WAS ONG REACTION, MOST OF IT GATIVE. WHAT'S BEHIND THAT?

>> WELL, IT WAS REALLY TRULY A BIZARRE MOMENT AT THE WHITE HOY E AND MAI SHOWED REALLY THE EXTREME CHANGE IN KANYE WEST'S POLITICS. KANYE WEST WAPEA RAPKNOWN FOR HIS SOCIAL ACTIVISM. HE WAS A RAPPER ALSO KNOWN FOR CALLING OUT PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE FAMOUSLY SAID THAT PRESIDENT BUSH DIARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE SO HE WAS CALLING OUT PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH IN THAT INSTANCE AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT KATRINA AND FACT THERE WERE AFRICAN AMERICANS WHO DIDN'T FEEL AS THOUGH THE GOVERN AFTER THE RESPONSE TO THE HURRICANE. ONSTEAD, YOU HAVE KANYE WEST SAYING HE'S NOLY AN OUTSPOKEN SUPPORTER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP. IT'S THE FCT THAT HE SAID STUFF LIKE SLAVERY IS A CHOICE. HE'S ALSO T WODAY, INHAT WAS A 10-MINUTE MONOLOGUE, HE TALKED ABOUT STEREOTYPES USED AGAINST AFRICAN AMERICANS THROUGHOUT HISTORY. HE SAID AT SOME POINT, AFRICAN AMERICANS LIKE WELFARE, AND THE FACT THATT THERE ARE NOATHERS IN THE HOMES OF AFRICAN AMERICANS. THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, AGAIN, STEREOTYPES. THEY'RE NOT TRUE. SO A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY ARE SAYINGRSHO IS THIS PEON? THE RAPPER WE KNOW IS SOMEONE WHO WAS UPLIFTING THE AFRICANM AMERICAN NITY. SO NOW PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY QUESTIONING KIND OF WHERE WE GO FROM WERE. odruff: WE MENTIONED THIS WAS A MEETING WITH JIM BROWN. WHY WAS KANYE WEST THERE?

>> KANYE WEST WAS THERE TOTE ADVOOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. HIM ALONG WITH WITH HIS WIFE, KIM KARDASHIANWEST, HAVE TAKEN UP CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. HIS WIFE, KIMKARDASHIAN, APPEALED TO THE PRESIDENT AND GOT A PRISO THAT APPEAL.HROUGH HE WAS TALKING ABOUT LARRY HOOVER, AND THE FACTAT TH LARRY HOOVER WHO IS REALLY A FOUNDER OR COFOUND OF THE GANGSTERS DISCIPLEDISCIPLES IN, A STREET N CHICAGO, SHOULD BE RELEASED, SOMEONE FACING MORE THAN 100S YE PRISON BECAUSE OF MURDER. S BASICALLY SUPPOSED T BE TALKING ABOUT THAT AND WENT ANF ON A TIRADE ABOUT HIS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OTHER THINGS.

>> Woodruff: THE PRESIDENT WAS WELCOMING THIS IN PART BECAE IT WAS AN OUTREACH TO AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS TO SUPPORT HIM. WHAT AFFECT DO WE THINK THS COULD HAVE ON THE PRESIDENT'S SUPPORT?

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLLING YET, OF COURSE, BUT ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS LIKELY NOT GOING TO HEL PRESIDENT TRUMP OR KANYE WEST, REALLY, APPEAL TO AFRICAN AMERICAN DEMOCRATS OR AICAN AMERICAN REPUBLICANS. ON THE ONE HAND, AFRICAN AMERICAN REPUBLICANS WANT TO HAVE AN AUDIENCE WITH THE PRESIDENT. THEY WANT TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY, ABOUT WAGES, MAYBE ABOUT SMALL-BUSINESS LOANS FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. BUT THEY'RE NOT TTING THE AUDIENCE THAT KANYE WEST IS GETTING. SO THAT'SANGING BLACK REPUBLICANS. FOR BLACK DEMOCRATS, THEY SEE SOMEBODY WHO IS REALLY LASHING OUT AND USING STEREOTYPES AND THAT, ALSO, ISN'T GOING TO APPEAL TO AFRICAN AMERICAN VORERS. THIS WASLY I THINK A WEIRD MOMENT OF THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. AND IT WAS REALLY ABOUT T CELEBRITY REALITY TV STARS CHATTING IT UP FOR 10 MIN BUT NOT MUCH SUBSTANCE CAME OUT OF THE DISCUSSION.

>> Woodruff: IT WAS CERTAINLY ONE AT GOTTEN'S ATTENTION TODAY. UNUSUALT VERY LEAST.

>> YEAH.

>> Woodruff: YAMICHE ALCINDOR, THK YOU.

>> Woodruff: STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: THE STATE OF OUR ELECTION SETYRI AHEAD OF THE COMING MIDTERMS. SAUDI ARABIA COMES UNDER INCREASED SCRUTINY IN THE DISAPPEARAE OF A DISSIDENT WRITER. POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS FOR THE UNCERTAIN FUTURE OF RECYCLING IN THE UNITED STATES. AND A BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR TAKE ON WRITING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. TH

>> Woodruff: WIT2018 MIDTERM ELECTIONS LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY, AND EARLY VOTING ALREADY UNDERWAY IN SOME STATES, OFFICIALS IN THE TRUMP G ADMINISTRATION ARE SOUNDE ALARM ABOUT CHINA'S ATTEMPTS TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF NEXT MONTH'S VOTE. I SPOKE A SHORT TIME AGO WITH CHRISTOPHER KREBS, UNDERSECRETARY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY'S NATIONAL TOTECTION AND PROGRAMS DIRECTORATE, ABOSE CONCERNS AND I STARTED BY ASKING HIM HOW HE SEES THE THREAT.

>> GIVEN O AND WHAT WE SAW THE RUSSIANS ATTEMPT TO DO ACROSS THE NATION'S ELECTION EQUIPMENT, ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE, WE CERTAINLY HAVE A DEGRF CONCERN OF WHAT THEIR CAPABILITY AND THEIR CAPABILITYAN ID THEIR PRIOR INTENT HAS DEMONSTRATED. SO THAT'S ND OF BEENHE PLANNING FACTOR THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING AGAINST, THE FACT WHETHER THEY COME BACK OR NOT--

>> Woodruff: "THEY" BEING?Y"

>> "T BEING THE RUSSIANS, FOR SURE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN DEMONSTRAT RUSSIAN ACTIVITY IN A REPEAT OF 2016. BUT I MENTIONED THE PLANNING ASPECT, HOW WE'RE PLANNING. WE'RE READY. WE'RE PLANNING FOR TO COME BACK. AND I THINK IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE FOR '16, I TINED THIS BEFORE, BUT I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE MOST SECURE ELECTION IN THEER MOD ERA BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK WE'VE DONE WITH STATE AND LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIO ARE, BY THE CONSTITUTION, BY LAW, RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING ELECTIONS, FEDERAL ELECTIONS. PR Woodruff: WELL, AS YOU KNOW, THSIDENT, THE VICE PRESIDENT HAVING OUT OF THEIR WAY IN THE LAST FEW DAYS TO TALK ABOUT CHINA, TO SAY THAT CHINA HAS BEEN TRYING TO MEDDLE OUR ELECTIONS. THE VICE PRESIDENT WENT SO FAR AS TO SAY WHAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE DONE PALES IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THE CHINESE ARE D CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS, SPELL IT OUT FOR US?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, GIVEN THE WAY WE'RE EONNECTED AND THE GIVEN THE WAY WE CONSUME AND AND SHARE INFORMATION, THERE'S A BROAD RANGE OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR ANY NATION STATE, WHETHER IT'S RUSSIANAR CHTO TRY TO INFLUENCE THE WAY AMERICANS THINK AND THEY ACT. SO THE RUSSIANS, I THINK, HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY-- OR AT LEAST MOST CENTLY-- MUCH NOISIER, MUCH MORE OUT IN FRONT. THEY'VE ATTEMPTED TO GET IN ELECTION EQUIPMENT AND MANIPULATE THERE. THEY'VE ALSO USED SOCIA LDIA TO SOW DIORD AND DIVISIVENESS. THE CHINESE ARE MUCH MORE STRATEGIC, MUCH MORE UNDER THE RADAR, PERHAPS, WITH A LONGER, MORE STRATEGIC GAME IN PLAY. AND THEIR ATTEMPTS HERE ARE TO INFLUEE THE WAY THE AMICANS THINK ABOUT POLICY ISSUES. AND DOWN THE ROAD, WHETHER IT'S THE 18-- BUT ALSO MORE FOR THE'M MIDTERMS--ORRY, THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL-- TRYING TO INFLUENCE HOW VOTER WHEN THEY GO TO THE POLLS, YOU KNOW, WHAT BUBBLE THEY'RE GOING TO FILL IN OR WHAT BUTTON THEY'RE GO TO PUSH.

>> Woodruff: IT'S INTERESTING YOU SHOULD MENTION THAT. WE'VE SEEN, I GUESS, NEWSPAPER INSERTS, ONE IN PARTICULAR IN IOWA, THE PRESIDENT TWEETED ABOUT THAT. BUT SAW THAT THE EDITOR OF THE "DES MOINES REGISTER" THE NEWSPAPER WHERE THIS INSERT WAS, SHE WAS QUOTED AS SAYING, "THIS KIND OF INSERT MEE OUR STANDARD CRITERIA FOR VERTISING," UNLIKE THE KIND OF HIDDEN THING, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, THE RUSSIANS WERE DOG. SO IS IT RLLY THAT UNDERHANDED, I GUESS, IS MY QUESTION? >>ELL, IT'S NOT THAT 'S UNDERHANDED IT'S IN FACT A FOREIGN INFLUENCE OPERATION. WE THINBACK TO 2016, AND WHAT THE RUSSIANS ATTEMPTED TO DO.E THEY D THEIR STATE-SPONSORED MEDIA OUTLETS OF SPUTNIK ANDRT TO AMPLIFY MESSAGE AND DRIVE FALSE NARRATIVES. CHA'S DOING THE SAME HING WITH "CHINA DAILY" AND, INSTRUMENTS OF STATE MEDIA. LFU KNOW, THEY'RE CARRYING A MESSAGE ON BEHF BEIJING IN THIS CASE. SO WHILE IT MAY MEET SOME JOURNALIREIC STANDARD, THE STILL TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AN OUTCOME AND ACHIEVE THEIR OWN POLICY OBJECTIVES THROUGH THESE EFFORTS.

>> Woodruff: IS IT-- IS IT-- BUT WE THINK OF THE RUSSIANS AS JUST SPREADING DISINFORMATION. THE CHINESE ARE BASICALLY GIVING FHEIR POINT OF VIEW. IS THERE A FERENCE THERE?

>> WELL, ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK, AGAIN, WHEN YOU KIND OF LAY IT ALL OUT ON THE TABLE OF WHAT THE INDEPENDENT-- THE VARIOUS OBJECTIVES OF THE NATION MAY B THE RUSSIANS ARE MUCH MORE TACTICAL AND OPERATIONAAND HERE AND TODAY, YOU KNOW. FOR THEM, A STRONG U.S. DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT THEMN THE LONG RUN. THE CHINESE, HOWEVER, WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP, AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY-- WHILE THEY INK STRIEJICALLY, AND SO FOR THEM, THEY WANT OUR OUTCOMES, OUR POLICY OBJECTIVES TO ALN WITH THEIR LONGER TERM GOALS.

>> Woodruff: SO HOW ARE YOU COUNTERING THAT IN YR JOB, YOU KNOW, WORRYING ABOUT SECURITY OF THE ELECTION?

>> SO I THINK ABOUT THIN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE IS DEFENDINGODAY, AND THAT'S WORKING WITH STATE AND LOCAL ELECTION OFFICIALS TO ENSURE FOR THE MIDTERM018 ELECTIONS THAT THEY HAVE AS MUCH INFORMATION TO SECURE THEIR OWN SYSTEMS, THAT THEY HE TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED TO DEFEND THEIR SYSTEMS AND PROTECT THE VOTE. BUT, ALSO, WE'RE SECURING THE UTURE, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THERE'S STIUIPMENT THAT IS OLD, THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. SO WHEN THEY GO THROUGH PROCUREMENT PROCESS, DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO MAKE SECURE DECISIONS FOR TOMORROW'S DEPLOYMENTS?

>> Woodruff:IMENT TO-- I WANTTE TO QSOMETHING THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE SAID. I GUESS IT WAS IN JUNE, DAN COTES, SAID, "IT'S 2018 AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE RUSSIAN TARGETING OF AMERICAN SOCIETYYSN THAT COULD AFFECT OUR MIDTERM ELECTIONS." WE HAVE HEARD OTHER OFFICIALS SAY THERE IS NO WAY TOCO LETELY PROTECT AGAINST THIS IN 2018. WHAT SHOULD VOTERS STILL BE WORRIED ABOUT?

>> SO I THINK VOTERS NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT A FEW THINGS, BUT FIRSTKE AND FOREMOST, URE YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO ON ELECTION DAY. VERIFY YOUR REGISTRATION. ENSURE YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO, WHAT PRECINCT YOU'RE REGISTERED AT, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND YOUR RIGHTS AS A VOTER IF YOU GET THERE AND SOMETHING GOES WRONG-- LET'S BE CLEAR, SOMETHING GOES ONG, WHETHER IT'S A CYBER ATTACK OR SOMETHING ON ELECTION DAY, EVERY SINGLEME IT'S-- TECHNICAL GLITCHES. KNOW YOUR RIGHT AS A VOTER. PROVISIONAL BALLOTS ARE, ASK FO PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.

>> Woodruff: I THINK IT WAS SECRETARY NEILSEN AND OTHERS HAVE TESTIFIED OR SAID RECENTLY SO FAR YOU DON'T SEE ANY SUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS TO INTERFERE WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR ELECTIONS. IS THAT STILL THE CASE?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. I TEND TO BREAK THINGS UP INTO TWO BUCKETS. ONE IS THE PREPARATION BUCKET AND THEN THE SECOND IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEIN WE'RE-- AGAIN, WE'RE PLANNING AS IF THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING BACK, JUST LIKE THEY DI IN '16. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO THINK THROUGH WHAT MORE COULD THEY DO? BECAUSE IF WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE RUSSIAN, THEY GET BETTER, THEY LEARN. WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY'RE AIC LITTLE BIT ER THAN THEY WERE THE TIME BEFORE. WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF ENHANCED CAPABILITY? AGAIN, IN TERMS OF ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING WH WE SAW IN '16.

>> Woodruff: IN TERMS OF IN ASTRUCTURE. ES.

>> Woodruff: BUT IN TERMS OF INFLUENCE--

>> IN TERMS OF INFLUENCE, THEY'VE NEVER GONE WAY WA1bA. THEY'VE CONTINUED TO FIND THOSE MEATY SOCIAL ISSUES THAT DRIVE AMERICANS APART AND THEY REALLY GET ON BOTH SIDES AND THEY AMPLIFY THE MESSAGE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE-- THAT WE REMIND FOLKS THAT, LOOK, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THINK ABOUT WHAT YU'RE SEEING, WHO MIGHT BE PRESENTING IT TO YOU. TRY TO FIND A VALIDARITY, A THIRD-PARTY NEWS SOURCE THAT VALIDATES THAT BEFORE RETWEETING OR LIKING. BUT, ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT THERE ARE STATE-SPONSORED MEDIA OUTLETS, LIKE SPUTNIK, LIKE ARE, T, THAT ARE PUSHING A MESSAGE ON BEHALF OF THE KREMLIN.uf

>> Woo A WARNING, JUST, WHAT, IS IT LESS THAN FOUR WEEKS AMFORE ELECTION DAY.

>> YES, MA'

>> UNDER SECRETARY CHRIS DPHER KREBS, TS OF HOMELAND SECURITY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Woodruff: WE RERN TO A STORY THAT HAS BEEN IN THE HEADLINES ALL WEEK: THE DISAPPEARANCE OF A SAUDI ARABIAS JOURNALIST INBUL, TURKEY. ACCORDING TO REPORTS, IT IS SUSPECTED THAT HE WAS KIED, CHOPPED TO PIECES AND SMUGGLED OUT OF TURKEY BY SAUDI SECURITYS FO NICK SCHIFRIN HAS THE STORY.

>> Reporter: NINE DAYS AFTER JAMAL KHASHOGGI WALKED INTO THE SAUDI CONSULATE IN ISTANBUL U.S. AND TURKISH FORS ARE INCREASING PRESSURON SAUDI ARABIA. CCTV IMAGES ON STATE-OWNED MDIA SHOWS HOW TURKEY IS PIECING TOGEER STEPS TAKEN BY WHAT THEY ARE CALL A SAUDI... THEN FEWER THAN TWO HOURS AFTERI KHASHORRIVED, THAT SAME BLACK CAR AND A BLACK VAN LEAVE THE CONSULATE FOR THE CONSUL GENERAS HOUSE. INVESTIGATORS ARE ASKING WHETHER HE WAS IN THAT VAN AND WHETHER HE WAS ALIVE. SAUDI OFFICIALS PROMISE TO OPEN THEIR CONSULATE TO INGAVESTIGATS AND HAVE AGREED TO A JOINT INVESTIGATION WITH TURKEY IN THE WHIUSE TODAY, PRESIDENT TRUMP CALLED THE SAUDIS OUT.

>> A THING LIKE THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. IT WAS A REPORTER WITH "THE WASHINGTON POST," AND SOM ETHING LIKE THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

>> Reporter: MR. TRUMP MADE HIS FIRST FOREIGN VISIT TO SAUDI ARABIA TO ANNOUNCE A MASSIVE ARMS DEAL. HE STRONGLY SUPPORTED SAUDI POLICY AND PU SAUDI ARABIA AT THE CENTER OF HIS MIDDLE EAST POLICY. BUT DESPITTODAY'S CRTICISM, HE REJECTED CALLS TO BLOCK THE ARMS DEAL.

>> WE DON'T LIKE IT, AND WE DON'T LIKE IT EVEN A LITTLE BIT. BUT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD STOP $110 BILLION FROM BEING SPENT IN THIS COUNTRY, KNOWING THEY HAVE FOR OR FIVE ALTERNATIVES-- TWO VERY GOOD ALTERNATIVES -- THAT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO ME.

>> Reporter: BUT ON CAPITOL HILL, SENATORS ARE SKEPTICAL. TODAY, SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS CHAIRMAN BOB CORKER URGED PRESIDENT TRUMP TO GET MORE AGGRESSIVE.

>> AS TIME GOES O ANDWE'RE REAL CLEAR AS TO WHAT' HAPPENED, HOPEFULLY THAT TYPE OF TONE AND TENOR WILL CH RANGE. orter: ACCORDING TO THE "WASHINGTON POST," THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DOES KNOW WHATD HAPPED BELIEVES SAUDI CROWNED PRINCE, MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, WANTED TO LURE KHASHOGGI TAIN TO SAUDI ARABIA TO HIM AND THE OPERATION MIGHT HAVE BEEN A RENDITION GONE WRONG. N'EITHER WAY, KHASHOGGI DI WANT TO GO BACK. THE BBC RELEASED AUDIO OF KHASHOGGI SAYING TWO WEEKS AGO IT WOULDN'T BE SAFE OR HIM RETURN TO A COUNTRY THAT TOLERATED NO DISSENT.

>> Reporter: THAT INDEPENDENT MIGHT BE SHARED BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. SLICK PROMOTIONAL DEOS ADVERTISE A SAUDI CONFERENCE SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK. IT'S SUPPOSED TO FEATURE TREASU SECRETARY VE MNUCHIN AND A LONG LIST OF BUSESS LEADERS, BUT "THE NEW YORK TIMES" REMOVED ITS SPONSORSHIP, AND OTHERS RIE CONSI THE SAME. FORMER U.S. ENERGY SECRETARY SUSPENDED HIWORK AS A CONSULTANT TO THE KINGDOM,EE CITINGCONCERNS OVER KHASHOGGI NINE DAYS AFTER HE WAS LAST SEEN. WE TAKE A DEEPER LOOK NOW AT THE MANY ISSUES THIS RAISES FOR U.S. AND SAUDI RETIONS WITH ROBERT JORDAN. HE SERVED AS U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISTRATION. HE'S NOW DIPLOMAT-IN-RESIDENCE AT SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY. AMBASSADOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR CLOSE U.S.-SAUDI RELATIONS IN THE PAST, AS IS THIS ADMINISTRATION AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS BN IN THE PAST WELL. BUT DO YOU THINK THIS MOMENT IS DIFFERENT? ARE YOU SUPPORTING CALLS FOR WITHDRAWAL FROM THS SUMT THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS HOSTING NEXT WEEK? AND SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PULLING OUT OF SAUDI TODAY.

>> YES, AM. I'VE ADVOCATED A NUMBER OF TIMES TODAY ON OTHER MEDIATHAT I THINK AMERICANS ESPECIALLY WHO PLAN TO GO TO THIS FUTURE INVESTMENT INITIATIVE SHOULD PUT THAT ON HOLD. THIS IS THE WRONGTIME TO BE GLORIFYING SAUDI ARABIA. IT'S THE WRONG TIME TO BE GIVG THEM THE BENEFIT OF THIS KIND OF PUBLICITY. I THINK WE HA TO TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE SEEN A SUFFICIENTLY SERIOUS RESPONSE FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION YET, EITHER.

>> DO YOU THINK SECRETARY MNUCHIN SHOULD CANCEL HIS TRIP AND HIS SPEECHSH

>> HLD CANCEL HIS TRIP. THERE ARE RUMORS THAT DEENA POWELL WAS COSIDERING GOING. I THINK IT WOULD BE THE EXACT WRONG OPTIC FOR HER TO SHOW UP AT THIS EVENT, IFHE'S BEING CONSIDERED FOR UNITED NATIONS AMBASSADOR. CERTAINLY, A NUMBER OF MEDIA FIGURES HAVE CANCELED. ARIANNEY HUFFINGTON AND OTHERS. I THINK THE SPNSORS NEED TO GIVE SERIOUS THOUGHT AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT TO PUT THEXTIR NAME TO THIS EVENT, AND SOME OF THESE SPEAKERS LIK DAVID PETRAEUS, STEPHEN SCHWARTZ WAN, JAMI DIMON AND OTHERS NEED TO SET AN EXAMPLE, NOT JUST FOR THEIR COMPANIES BUT ALSO R COUNTRY.

>> YOU SAID THIS ADMINISTRATION IS NOT BEING STRONG ENOUGH. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID TODAY HE WOULD DECLINE OR AT LEAST STOP EFFORTS TO CANCEL ARMS LES TO SAUDI ARABIA. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE?

>> I THINK IT END THE WRONG MESSAGE. I THINK, CERTAINLY, THE SALE-- IFT REALLY EXISTS-- AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S SOME QUESTION AS TO HOW REAL THAT SALE IS. BUT IF IT TRULY DOES EXIST, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PUT ON HOLD UNTIL WE GET MORE ANSWERS, BETTER INFORMATION, AND MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM THE SAUDIS.

>> THERE ARE ALOT OF OFFICIALS WHO WOULD PUSH BACK ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ESPECIALLY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENS THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. THOSE PEOPLE SAY, "LOOK, WE HAVE PRIORITIES, THE U.S. HAS PRIORITIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST-- COUNTERING IRAN, COUNTERINGT VIOLTREMISM, TRYING TO FIGURT OUT A PEACE DEAL BETWEEN ISRAEL ANDTHE PALESTINIANS, AND ALL THOSE PRIORITIES NEED SAUDI ASSISTANCE. DOESN'T THE U.S. NEED SAUDI ARABIA'S ASSISTANCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST TODAY?

>> WE DO. WE HAVE A NATIONAL INTEREST IN HAVING THEIR ASSISTANCE. I FACED SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR WHENIA ARRIVED IN SAUDI ARA MONTH AFTER 9/11. I NEEDED TO DEAL WITMIH EXT IN SAUDI ARABIA, BUT WE ALSO NEEDED THE SAUDIS' ASSISTANCE IN DEALING WITH TERRORISM AND DEALING WITH AL QAEDA. YOU FIND A WAY TO DO BOTH. YOU MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE RED LINES THAT CANNOT BE CROSSE AND THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES, BUT THERE'S ALSO A RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS TO BE PRESERVED THE BEST IT CAN, AND IN SOME CASES, IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE RELATIONSHIP, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO BOTH. YOU CANNOT TAKE THIS SITTING DOWN. YOU CANNOT TURN ANOTHER-- TURN A BLIND EYE TO THIS. YOU HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE CONSEQUENCES REAL FOR THIS KIND UE BEHAVIO

>> SO I ASKED U.S. OFFICIALS TODAY HOW TO MAKE THOSE CONSEQUENCESEAL, AND SHOROF STOPPING ARMS DEALS, SOME OF THEM CITED KICKING DIPLOMATS OUT, CLOSING DIPLOMATIC POSTS,AP PECHANGING MILITARY COOPERATION IN YEMEN, IMPOSING SANCTIONS. WOULD ANY OF THOSE SEND A STRONG ENOUGH SIGNAL?

>> WELL, I THINK SOME OF THE THEM WOULD, AS A PACKAGE, BE G EFUL. CERTAINLY, BACKF FROM OUR SUMMIT OF THIS COSTLY AND DESTATING WAR IN YEMEN IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ALL ALOAYNG ANYW I THINK WE CERTAINLY HAVE A LIST OF 15 OF THIS HITSQUAD THAT APPARENTLY CAME TO ISTANBUL. THOSE PEOPLE OUGHT TO IMMEDIATELY SANCTIONED, AS WE HAVE DONE WITH IRANIAN AND RUSSIAN INDIVIDUALS IN THE PAST. I THINK OTHER ECONOMIC SANCTIONS MIGHT FOLOW. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO SUSPEND ALL LATIONS OR PULL OUR DIPLOMATS. WE NEED TO CONTINUE DIPLOMACY. THIS I A TIMEFOR DIPLOMACY. BUT IT'S ALSO A TIME TO IMPOSE CONSEQUENCES.

>> LET'S ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE MAN AT THE CENT OF THIS, AT LEAST SAUDI ARABIA, MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, THE CROWN PRINCE, WIDELY KNOWN ADD M.B.S. HAS HIS CRITICS, AND YOU SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE YEMEN WAR. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, A LOT OF CRITICISM OF SAUDI ARABIA IN HOW IT HAS CODUCTED THAT WAR. THIS INCIDENT, AS WELL, HE'S BEEN REALLY CENT AT THAT CRITICISM. DOUBLE THAT THIS CRITICIEV-- DO YOU BETHIS CRITICISM OF HIM COULD REDUCE HIS CHANCES OF BECOMING KING?

>> I THINK THERE'S NCE OF THAT. LET'S BEAR IN MIND, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, HE INCARCERATE A NUMBER OF THE SENIOR ROALS IN THE RITZ-CARLTON, ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF SAUDI OLIGARCHS. SO I THINK THERE IS AN ENTIRE CADRE OF FAMILY THAT VIEWING HIM WITH GREAT SKEPTICISM, IF NOT OUTRERIGHENTMENT. HE OWNS MANY OF THE POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN PURSUEDOVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND MOST OF THEM HAVE BEEN COLOSSAL FAILURES-- THE WAR IN YEMEN,E ABDUCTION OF THE LEBANESE PRIME MINISTER, THE BOYCOTT OF YOU CAN TAR YOU GO DOWN THE LIST AND YOU DON'T SEE MANY SUCCESSES. THE FAILURE OF ARAMCO I.P.O., THE FAILURE OF THEIR SOLAR PROJECTS. I THINK AT SP EINT RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE IN SAUDI ARABIA ARE GOING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE ASKING KING SAAN WHETHER HE REALLY DOES STAND BEHIND THIS CROWN PRINCE AT A TIE WHEN HE APPEARS TO BE THUGGISH AND RECKLESS.

>> QUICKLY, YOU KNEW JAMAL KHASHOGGI.

>> RIGHT.

>> HE WORKED FOR THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT. HE WANOT IN ANY WAY A DISSIDENT-- AT LEAST HE DIDN'T IDENTIFY HIMSELF AS SUCH. HE CRITICIZED THE METHODS THAT MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN IS USING. WHAT DOES IT SAY THAT HE, OFALL PEOPLE, HE COULD HAVE BEEN TARGETED?

>> WELL, I THINK IT'S REALLY OUTLANDISH. HE WAS A TRUE SAUDI PATRIOT WHO ME DIFFERING VIEWS. HE WAS ALSO A COMPLIMENTARY OCCASIONALLY OF THE M AGENDA OF THE CROWN PRINCE. SO HE CALLED IT AS HE SAW IT, WHICH IS THE SAME JAMAL CKASHOGGI I KNEW 15, 18 YEARS AGO. N THOSE DAYS, HE WAS FIRED A COUPLE OF TIMES FROM SAUDI NEWSPAPERS, AND THEN REHIRED BY PRI,CE TUTHE SAUDI AMBASSADOR TO THE U.K., WORKING FOR HIM. SO HE'S ACTALLY HAD SOME REAL ADMIRERS WITHIN THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMID I SUSPECT THAT CONTINUES AND THEY ARE DEVASTATED BY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

>> ROBU.T JORDAN, FORMES. AMBASSADOR TO SAUDI ARABIA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Woodruff: NOW TO OUR SERIES OF REPORTS ON THE PLASTIC PROBLEM. LAST WEEECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN LOOKED AT THE RECYCLI CRUNCH AMERICA NOW FACES AS CHINA HAS STOPPED ACCEPTING MUCH OF OUR WASTE. THIS WEEK HE TRIES TO ANSWSO THE QUESTIONHAT DO WE DO NOW? THE STORY IS PART OF OUR WEEKLY SERIES, MAKING SEN$E, WHICH RUNS HERE EVERY THURSDAY.

>> WE CAN'T RET THESE IN OUR CLING, CHIPS BAGS, COOKIE WRAPPERS.

>> Reporter: YOU CAN'T?

>> WE CAN'T PUT IT IN THE REGULAR RECYCLING. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ORGANIZATION. THEY RECYCLE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

>> Reporter: AH, YOU MIGHT THINK, IF ONLY EACH OF US DID AS CAMBRIDGE MASSACHUSETTS RECYCLING FANATIC MEERA SINGH DOES.

>> WHEN I GO TO HEAVEN, WHICH IS WHAT I CALL OUR RECYCLING CENTER.

>> Reporter: YOU CALL WHAT?

>> I CALL IT HEAVEN. EVERYONE SHOULD GO TO HEAVEN.

>> Reporter: TO MEERA SINGH," HEAVEN." TO MOST THE RADAR.OT EVEN ON SO, YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. THIS IS HEAVEN?

>> TO SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS, THIS IS HEAVEN.

>> Reporter: MICHAEL ORR RUNS RECYCLING FOR CAMBRIDGE, WHEREA MORE THAW HIGHLY MOTIVATED CYCLERS LIKE SINGH RESID CLASSY BOOK EXCHANGE; CLASSY SOMEWHAT BIGGER TICKET ITEMS. H AS THE CHAIR I'M SITTI ON RIGHT NOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A RESINT DROPPED OFF AND SAID, "I NO LONGER NEED," AND LATER TODAY, SOMEONE WILL BE TAKING THIS CHAor HOME.

>> Repr: WITH CHINA ANDHE OTCOUNTRIES SUDDENLY REJECTING OUR RECYCLABLES AND TRASH PRICES RISING AS LANDFILLS CLOSE DOWN, ONE RESPIGHT BE TO EMULATE CAMBRIDGE'S RECYCLING CADRE. WHILE DISCIPLINING THE REST OF US. BUBBLE WRAP? IT WOULD BE NI TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TO PUT IN THE BINS. THIS SHOULDN'T GO IN RECYCLING, HUH?

>> BUBBLWRAP AND PLASTIC BAGS, PLASTIC FILM IN GENERAL, SHOULD NOT BE GOING IN THE RECYCLING.

>> Reporter: BECAUSE?

>> BECAUSE IT JAMS UP THE MACHINERY. IT'S THE NUMBER ONE CONTAMINANT AND THE NUMBER ONE MOST DAMAGING CONTAMINANT IN THE RECYCLING FACILITIES.

>> Reporter: CAN'T RECYCLE THIS?

>> PAPER PLATES ARE TRICKY ONE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE CLEAN PAPER PRODUCTS. OFTEN, PAPER PLATES HAVE FOOD PRODUCT ON IT, OR IT'S COATED IN WAX.

>> Reporter: AND PIZZA BOXES?

>> AS LONG AS THERE'S NO FOOD IN IT, THE GREASE IS OKAY AND THEY REN RECYCLE IT.

>> Reporter: THEE IS OKAY?

>> YEAH. WE CAN RECYCLE PIZZA BOXES.

>> Reporter: YOU'RE MAKING ME FEEL BETTER. BUT SO MUCH THAT'S PUT IN THE BINS IS NOT OKAY. SO CAMBRIDGE TRIES TO TEACH PEOPLE, WITH A LITTLE TOUGH LOVE.

>> OUR DRIVER WILL GO PUT A REJECTION STICKER ON IT, N WE TO THT THEY DID WRONG, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO CALL US AND CLEAN IT UP, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK A DAY.WHIT UP THE NEXT EVERY ONCE IN E, WE HAVE TO KIND OF NUDGE PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND CLEAN UP THEIR RECYCLING.

>> Reporter: I'D SAY THAT'S MORE LIKE A SHOVE THAN A NUDGE. THE CITY ALSO HAS AN INSTRUCTIONAL SORTING GAME IN THEIR "CAMBRIDGE RECYCLES" APP, AND VIDEOS POSTED ON THEIR WEBSITE, INCLUDING ONE FOR KIDS.

>> TRASH, OR COMPOST.

>> YEAH.

>> Reporter: AS DOES THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS, WITH NEARLY IN0 COMMUNITIES TAKING PAR AN EFFORT TO EDUCATE CONSUMERS. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH SINGLE STREAM RECYCLING, WHERE YOU DON'T SORT OUT PLASTICS, PAPER OR METAL, IT MEANS LOTS OF WORK AT THE PLANT. THERE IS, HOWEVER, A MAJOR GARBAGE STREAM THAT CAN BE ISOLATED FOR RECYCLING: FOOD WASTE, WHICH MAKES UP A QUARTER OF ALL TRASH. MOST OF IT ENDS UP ROTTING IN LANDFILLS, WHERE IT GENERATES METHANE, A GREENHOUSE GAS WAY MORE POTENT THAN CARBON DIOXIDE. SO, WHY NOT COMPOST ORGANIC MATTER? THOUGHT MIKE ORR'S PREDECESSOR, RANDI MAIL, BACK IN 2002.

>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE NOT REALLY HAVE TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN JUST DROP THEIR BANANA PEELS IN A DIFFERENT CONTAINER.

>> PERHAPS IT'S EXPIRED.

>> Reporter: AND 16 YEARS AFTER SHE HAD THE IDEA, CAMBRIDGE IS TURNING FOOD WASTE INTO CLEAN ENERGY, WITH PICKUP CITYWIDE AT A NEPLANT IN NEARBY CHARLESTOWN.

>> SOME OF THIS, I BELIEVE, CAME FROM A GROCERY STORE PERHAPS IT'S EXPIRED PRODUCT.

>> Reporter: ERIK MYERS RUNS THE FOOD WASTE OPERATION.

>> AND THAT MATERIAL THEY WANT TO RECYCLE IT.

>> Reporter: BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT EASIER TO JUST DUMP OUTDATEDAN JUICE AND YESTERDAY'S WIENERS, DEAD HEADS OF LETTUCE AND BUMMER HUMMUS. EVEN NO-GOOD NECCO WAFERS, NAMED FOR E RECENTLY SHUTTERED NEW ENGLAND CANDY COMPANY JUST A FEW OWLES AWAY. INSTEAD, THEY'RELL CHURNED INTO WHAT'S CALLED AN" ENGINEERED BIOSLURRY."

>> WE HAVE A BLENDING PROCESS TO MAKE WHAT WE LIKE TO THI OF KIND OF AS AN ENERGY SUPER SHAKE THAT HAS AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF ENERGY. WE JUST THINK OF IT AS FOOD WASTE BUT IT'S REALLY FATS AND SUGARS AND CARBOHYDRATES AND PROTEINS.

>> Reporter: SO EVERY DAY, SOME 10,0000 GALLONS OF SUPER SHAKE IS PIPED INTO TANKERS AND TRUCKED 30 MILES NORTH, WHE IT'S TRANSFORMED INTO FUEL, THE SAME WAY WASTEWATER RECOVERY FACILITIES TREAT DIRTY WATER. RIGHT NOW, AT THIS PLANT, THE ENERGY IS BEING USED TO POWER THE WASTEWATER PLANT. BUT IN THE FUTURE?

>> FOR EVERY TON WE RECEIVE HERE, WE CAN GENERATE ENOUGH POWER TO POWER ABOUT NINE HOMES.

>> Reporter: MEANING THAT WHEN THIS PLANT HITS IT'S HANDLING CAPACITY OF 250 TONS A DAY, IT CAN POWER 2400 HOMES. THE U.S. GENERATES SOMETHING LIKE 100,000 TONS OF FOOD WASTE A DAY.BU BARELY 5% OF IT IS BEING RECYCLED. A USE , AND WE'D BE ABLE TO POWER MORE THAN A MILLION HOMES A DAY.OT AND THAT'SLL.

>> IN ADDITION TO EXTRACTING THERGY FROM THE FOOD WASTE ALSO TAKE THE SOLIDS THAT ARE LEFT OVER THEY PUT THEM THROUGH ANOTHER TESTING PROCESS. AND THEY CREATE A PELLET PRODUCT.

>> Reporter: SO THEY'RE JUST LIKE LITTLE GRAINS

>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S USED R FERTILIZATION OF FIELDS AND FARMS, TURF APPLICATIONS.

>> Reporter: IT'S ALSO ABOUT 30 TO 40% CHEAPER TO DISPOSE OF, PER TON, THAN TRASH. WHICH SAVES CAMBRIDGE MONEY, SAYS ME ORR.

>> SINCE THE LAUNCH OF CURBSIDE COMPOST, WE'VE SEEN A 10% DECREASE IN OUR TRASH.

>> Reporter: SO RANDI MAIL'SON EARLY VIS REALITY, AT LEAST FOR CAMBRIDGE.

>> IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM, WE NEED TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BUY OUR OWN RECYCLABLES AND USE OUR OWN RECYCLABLES IN AMERICAN MANUFACTURING, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT RELIANT ON EXPORTS.

>> Reporter: YOU MEAN STIMULATE RECYCLING INDUSTRY OR INDUSTRIES WHICH USE RECYCLED PRODUCTS HERE IN AMERICA?

>> YEAH, REOPEN PAPER MILLS THAT HAVE CLOSED. REQUIRE PAPER PRODUCTS TO BE MADE WITH HIGHER PERCENTAGES OF RECYCLED CONTENT, AND MAKE A COMMITMENT FROM AN INSTITUTION STANDPOINT TO BUY THESE MATERIALS. R orter: AND HERE'S WHERE OUR STORY TAKES A SURPRISINGLY, OR PERHAPS JUST WISHFULLY, POSITIVE TURN: THE STATE'S GREG COOPER THINKS THE CH CLAMPDOWN MIGHT ACTUALLY PROMPT SUCH CHANGES.BL

>> THESE RECYCMATERIALS ARE COMMODITIES, LIKE SOYBEANS, A ORANGES, OR COAL, OR ANYTHING ELSE, AND THEY HAVLUE. GD NEW INVESTMENTS ARE BE MADE DOMESTICALLY TO TRY AND MANAGE THAT MATERIAL. WHAT WE ALWAYS SEE IN THE MARKETS IS THE MARKETS ADJUST.

>> Reporter: TRE MARKET FOR CLED PLASTICS IN THE NORTHEAST IS ONE EXAMPLE. MANY RECYCLING FIRMS, INCLUDING THE ONE SERVICING CAMBRIDGE, FUNNEL THEIR PLASTICS TO CARPET MANUFACTURERS. THIS PLANT IN VIRGINIA TURIO ABOUT SIX BIPLASTIC BOTTLES INTO RUGS EVERY YEAR. AND CLOSER TO HOME, A NEW FIRM, PRESERVE, JUST OUTSIDE BOSTON, HAS BEGUN TO TURN LOCAL PLASTICS INTO KIDS' TOOTHBRUSHES AND" HEAVY DUTY CUTLERY," AMONG MANY OTHER ITEMS. IN THE END, THOUGH, THIS MIGHT NOT BE SO BAD FOR THE CHINESE ECONOMY EITHER. SOME CHINESE FIRMS HAVE NOW ANNOUNCED DEALS TO BUY AMERICAN PAPER MILLS. FOR THE PBS NEHOUR, THIS IS ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN REPORTING FROM IN AND AROUND CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS.

>> Woodruff: NEXT, WE TURN TO ANOTHER EPISODE OF OUR WEEKLY SERIES, BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR. R,NIGHT, WE HEAR FROM JOURNALIST, PROFESND AUTHOR WALTER ISAACSON. HIS BIOGRAPHIES OF INFLUENTIAL FIGURES RANGE FROM LEONARDO DA VINCI TO ADA LOVELACE. ISAACSON BELIEVES THAT THOSE WHO THRIVE AT THE INTERSECTION OF ONARTS AND SCIENCES ARE TH WHO WILL BECOME A PART OF HISTORY.

>> I HAD A MENTO SIN NEW ORLEANT OF A FAMILY FRIEND, GREAT NOVELIST, WALKER PERCY ANHE SAID THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF PEOPLE COME OUT OF LOUISIANA, PREACHERS AND STORYTELLERS. HE SAID, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, BE A STORYTELLER. THE WORLD HAS TOO MANY PREACHERS. I LIKE TO TAKE ON SUBJECTS FOR MY BIOGRAPHY THAT STAND IN THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN THE ARTS AND THE SCIENCES, BECAUSE WHETHER IT WAS BENJAMIN FRANKLIN OR STEVE JOBS OR LEONARDO DA VINCI, I THINK THAT'S WHAT GIVES CREATIVITY. STEVE JO, WHENEVER HE DID A PRODUCT LAUNCH WHICH SHOWS STREET SIGNS, SHOWING THAT INTERSECTION OF THE ARTS AND SCIENCES. THAT'S WHAT LEONARDO DA VINCI'S VITRUVIAMAN'S ALL ABOUT. AND WHEN EINSTEIN WAS LOOKING FOR THE THEORIES OF RELATIVITY, HE PULLED OUT HIS VIOLIN TO PL MOZART. FRANKLINURSE BENJAM FLYING A KITE IN THE RAIN, THOSE ELECTRICITY EXPERIMENTS HELPED HIM UNDERSTAND THE NOTION OF CHECKS, BALANCES, PLUSES, MINUSES THAT WE SEE IN OURCO TITUTION. WHEN I WAS WORKING ON LEONARDO DA VINCI, THE BIGGEST INSIGHTS I HAD WAS GOING PAGE BY PAGE THROUGH THE 7,200 PAGES OF NOTEBOOKS THAT HE HAD LEFT BEHIND AND I REALIZED SINCE I COULDN'T GET STEVE JOB'S NOTES IN THE 1990s, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL ON SOME COMPUTER WHERE THE OPERATING SYSTEM NO LONGERWO WORKED, HOERFUL OF A TECHNOLOGY FOR THE STORAGE OF INFORMATION PAPER IS. ITS BATTERNEVER RUNS DOWN. ITS OPERATING SYSTEM NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE AND 500EARS LATER, WE JUST SIT THERE AND MARVEL AT LEONARDO'S NOTEBOOKS. LEONARDO DA VINCI NEVER OUTGREW HIS WONDER YEARS. HE EVEN HAD A QUESTION THAT I LOVED WHICH IS DESCRIBE THE TONGUE OF A WOODPECKER. WHO WAKES UP ONE MORNING AND T?TS THAT ON THEIR TO DO L WHETHER I WAS AT THE ASPEN INSTITUTE OR "TIME" MAGAZINE OR CNN, I KNEW A LOT OF SMART PEOPLE. BUT IT SOON OCCURRED TO ME THAT SMART PEOPLE ARE A DIME A DOZEN AND THEY OFTEN DON'T AMOUNT TO MUCH. WHAT MATTERS IS BEING INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE, AND IMAGINATIVE. AND THAT REQUIRES THAT TYPE OF OUT OF THE BOX THINKING AND CURIOSITY YOU SEE IN EVERYBODY FROM LEONARDO DA VINCI TO STEVE JOBS. I LIKE BEING A STORYTELLER AND WHEN I WAS A YOUNG WRITER AT "TIME" AND I COULD DO COVER STORIES AND TALK ABOUT A PERSON WHO HAD CHANGED HISTORY, LIKE JEFF BEZOS IN THE 1990s. WE MADE HIM PERSON OF THE YEAR AND YOU THINK, WOW THAT'SRE INING. THAT'S SATISFYING TO SHOW HOW SOMEBODY'S CHANGING THE COURSE OF HISTORY AND SO TO BE A WRITER WHERE I CAN LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES AND REALIZE IT'S PART OF SOMETHING LARGER THAN MYSELF OR OURSELVES, BUT HELP PEOPLE BECOME A PART OF HISTORY. HII'M WALTER ISAACSON, ANDIS MY BRIEF AND PERHAPS SPECTACULAR TAKE ON WHAT'S IT'S LIKE TO WRITABOUT PEOPLE.

>> WoodrufIT WALTER HAS N SOME REMARKABLE BIOGRAPHIES. YOU CAN WATCH ADDITIONAL BRIEF BUT ECTACULAR EPISODES ON OU WEBSITE, pbs.org/newshour/brief. ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE RIGHT NOW, VACCINE EXEMPTION RATES AMONG INFANTS AND SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN HAVE BEEN QUIETLY RISING, ACCORDING TOEW DATA FROM THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION. WE EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE THREAT OF DISEASE OUTBREAKS AND MORE ON OUR WEB pbs.org/newshour. AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE MORROW EVENING WHEN MARK SHIELDS AND DAVID BROOKS DISSECT THE WEEK'S POLITICAL NEWS. FOR ALL OF US AT THE PBS NEWSHOUR, THANK YOU AND SEE YOU SOON.

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