The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer : WETA : September 24, 2009 7:00pm-8:00pm EDT; The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer

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>> Lehr: GOOD EVENING, I'M JIM LEHRER. ON THE NEWSHOUTHIS THURSDAY, THE LEASTORY, PRESIDENT OBAMA PRESIDEOVER THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL MEETING, MARGARET WARNER COVED IT IN NEW YOR

>> Warne GLOBAL LEADERS AGREE WORK TOWARD A WORLD FREE NUCLEAR WRPLS AND TO STOP T SPREAD OF WEAPONECHNOLOGY IN THE MEANTIME > Lehrer: THEN, COME THE OTH NEWS OF THE DAY: SOM PERSPECTIVE OIRAN'S NUCLEAR AMBITIONS, AS VIEWED AFTE VARIOUS SPEECHES A STATEMENTS AT THE U.N; E LATEST ON A BREAKTHROUGH IN THE PREVENTI OF HIV AS WITH AN EXPERIMENTAL VACCI; A PAUL SOLMAN REPORT FROTHE SITE OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC SUMMIT, WHERE MA WORLD LEADERS ADED AFTER THE U. MEETINGS.

>> Repoer: HERE IN PITTSBURGH, I INTERVIEWED THE LEAD OF A DEVELOPINGATION, BRAZILIAN ESIDENT LULA. AND I TALKED TO DISSENTERS OUTSIDE THE G20 BRICADES BEFORE TAY'S CLASHES.

>> Lehrer: AND A JEFFREY BWN DECODING OF T ENORMOUS SUCCESS OF DAN BROWN'S NEW NOVEL. MAJORUNDING FOR THE NEWSHOUR WITH JIM LEHRER IS PROVIDEDY:

>> WHAT T WORLD NEEDS NOW IS ENERGY. THE ERGY TO GET THE ENOMY HUMMING AGAI THE ENERGY TO TACKLE ALLENGES LIKE CLITE CHANGE. HAT IS THAT ENERGY CAME FROMN ENERGY COMPAN EVERYDA CHEVRON INVESTS $62 MILLION IN PELE, IN IDEAS-- SEEKING, TEACHING, BUILNG. FUELING GROWTH AROUNTHE WORLD TO MO US ALL AHEAD. THIIS THE POWER OF HUMAN ENERGY CHEVRON.

>> THIS ITHE ENGINE THAT NNECTS ABUNDANT GRAIN FROM E AMERICAN HEARAND TO HARAN'S BEST SELLING WAT, WHILE KEEPIN60 BILLION POUNDS OF CARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHE EVERY YEAR. BNSF, THE ENGINE THAT NNECTS US. INTEL. EDUCATION FOR TOMORROW'CE INNOVATORS.

>> AND BY WLLS FARGO ADVISORS. TOGETHER, WE'LL GO FAR AND THE WILLIAM AND ORA HEWLETT FOUATION, WORKING TO SOLVE SOCIAL AND ENVIRONMENT PROBLEMS AT HOMEND AROUND THE WOD. AND WITH THENGOING SUPPORT OF THESE INSTITUTIONS AND FOUNDATIONS. AND... HIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIB BY THE CORPORATI FOR PUBLICROADCASTING. AND BY CTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STAON FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU.

>> Lehrer: THE U.NSECURITY COUNCIL LD A RARE "SUMMIT" TODAY TO WORK TOWARD ELIMINANG NUCLEAR WEAPON THERE WERE ALSO NEW CAL TO CONFRONT IR AND NORTH KOREA OVER THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM MARGARET WARNER HAS R LEAD STORY REPO.

>> WarnerPRESIDENT OBAMA AIRED TODAY'S MEETING OF THE 15-MEMBER SECURITCOUNCIL SUMMIT ON CLEAR WEAPONS, A RST FOR AN AMERICAN PRESIDEN AND 14 OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS RE REPRESENTED BY HEADS OF GOVERNMENT, A RARE OURRENCE. THE SOLE IT ON THE AGENDA: PASSAGE OF A RESOLUTI AFFIRMING THE GOALS OF UCLEAR DISARMAMENT AND NONPROLIFERATION,ND COMMITTING TO WORK MORE GRESSIVELY TO ACEVE THEM.

>> E DRAFT RESOLUTION HAS BEEN ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLAS RESOLUTION 188OF 2009.

>> Waer: THE PRESIDENT LAID OUT THE STAKES IN SRK TERMS: JUST ONE NUCLEAR WEAPON EXPLODED IN A CITY, BIT NEW YORK OROSCOW, TOKYO OR BEIJING, LONDON OR PIS, COULD KILL HUNDREDS OF THOANDS OF PEOPLE, AND IWOULD BADLY DESTABILIZE OUR SECUTY, OUR ECONOMIES D OUR VERY WAY OF LIFE. OE MORE THE UNITED NATIONHAS A PIVOTAL RE TO PLAY IN PREVTING THIS CRISIS. THE HISORIC RESOLUTION WE JUST ADOPTED ENSHRINES OUR ARED COMMITMENT TO THEOAL OF A WORLD WIOUT NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

>> WarnerIN TURN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT DMITRY MEDVEDEVLSO WARNED OF THRISK OF NUCLEAR ERROR. AND HE POINTED TTHE ONGOING NEGIATIONS BETWEEN RUSSIA AND U.S. HOLDERS OF THTWO WORLD LARGEST NUCLEAR OCKPILES. ( translated ): 'VE REPEATEDLY ATED AND REITERATED OUR READINESS TO MOVE FORWD TO REDUCE THE NBER OF DELIVERY VEHICLES OF STRATEG DEFENSIVE ARMS ME THAN THREE FOLD. OUR PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN TABL IN THE NEGOTIATIS WE'VE BEEN HOLDG WITH THE US.

>> Waer: CHINESE PRESIDENT HU JINTAO REAFFIRMED CHI'S POLICY OF NOIRST USE OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. BUT HE SAID THE COUNTRIES WH THE LARGT ARSENALS SHOULD TAKE THE LEAD. THE RESOLUTION ADOPTED TOY DID NOT MENTI IRAN AND NORTH KOREA BY NAME. EVEN SO, THOSE TWO NATIO WERE CENTRAL TTHE DISCUSSION. FRENCH PRESIDENT NICOLAS SARZY SAID IRAN D NORTH KOREA HAVE ADE A MOCKERY OF INTERNATION EFORTS TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF NUCLEAR NATIONS.

>> ( translated ): AT THIS VERY MENT, IRAN, SINCE 2005 HAS FLOUTED FIVE SECURI COUNCIL RESOLUTIS. I SUORT THE EXTENDED HAND OF THE AMERICANS, PRESIDE OBAMA. WEUST BRING THESE DIALOGUE PROPOSALS. BUTHAT HAS IT BROUGHT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY? NOTHING AALL. JUST MORE ENRICHED URIUM, MORE CENTRIGAL MACHINES. AND THEN HAVE NORTH KOREA AND HERE IT'S EVEN BETTER. NORTH KOA HAS BEEN ACTING IN DEFNCE OF ALL SECURITY COUNCIL DECISIONS SINCE 13. THEY PAY NOTTENTION WHATSOEVER TO WHAT E INTERNATIONAL MMUNITY HAS TO SAY.

>> WarnerSARKOZY AND BRITISH PRIME MINIST GORDON BROWN BOTH SD THE TIME IS FAST APPROHING WHEN HARSHER NCTIONS SHOULD BE IMPOSED AGAINST IRAN. N RESPONSE, IRAN ISSUED A STATEMENT THAT SAID WOULD TAKE PART "SERIOUS AND COSTRUCTIVE NEGOTIATIONS". BUT IT SAI"FUTILE AND ILLEGAL DEMANDS OF THE PAST YEARSHAT HAVE PROVEN BE OF NO AVAIL OULD BE ABANDONED" IN AN IERVIEW IN TODAY'S "WASHINGTON POST" IRANIAN PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHDINEJAD SAID HIS NATION WOULDLLOW ITS NUCLEAR EXPERTS TMEET WITH U.S. AND OTHER OFFICIS AS A CONFIDENCEUILDING MEASURE. THE U.S., RUSSIA, CHINA BRITAIN, FRANCE AND GERMY ARE DUE TO MEET IRANIAN NEGIATORS FOR TALKS ABOUT IRAN'NUCLEAR PROGRAMN OCTOBER 1. AS FOR WHAT THE FUTURE HOLD PRESI DIFFICULTIES OF RIDDING TH WORLD OF NUCLEAWEAPONS.

>> WORDS ALONE WILL N GET JOB DONE.

>> Warner: HEND MANY OF THE LEERS AROUND THE TABLE LEFT OR THE GROUP OF 20 ECONOMIC SUMMIT IN PITTSBUH THIS AFTERNOON. >>ehrer: JUDY WOODRUFF TALKED WITH MARGARET ATHE U.N. EARLIERHIS AFTERNOON.

>> Woodruff: MAARET, HELLO. THIS WAS A HISTORIC ETING OF THE U.N.ECURITY COUNCIL. WHAT ELSE CAN YOU TELL UABOUT THE SCENE,BOUT WHAT TOOK PLE?

>> Warner: WELL, IT WAS ITE A SCENE, JUD. BEFORE THE WORLD ADERS ACTUALLY ARRIVE IT WAS LIKE A GIGANTIC NETWORKING SCRUOF DIPLOMATS AND RMER DIPLOMATS, CELEBRITI WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN AN-NUCLEAR WEAPONS WORK, TED RNER, QUEEN NOOR. AND MOST EECIALLY, FOUR FORMER CABINET SECRETARIES AND SENATORS. NRY KISSINGER, BILL PERRY, S NUNN A GEORGE SHULTZ, WHO FAMOUSLY, TWOAND A HALF YEARS AGO, WROTE A PIECE ITHE "WALL STREET JOURNAL" CALD "TOWARDS A NUCAR WEAPONS FREE WORLD," ANTHEY HAVE ACTUALLY MET WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA ON THIS SUBJT. BUT THEN ONCE PREDENT OBAMA CAME IN AND MADE A QUICK UR OF THE ROOM, SHOOK A LOOF HANDS, AND THEN JUST, I WOULD SAY OUT A MINUTE AND A HALFR TWO BEFORE HE WASCHEDULED TO START, PSIDENT SARKOZY FINALLY MADE HIS GRAND ERANCE, GOT HALFWATHROUGH THE ROOM AND HAD TO SIT DOWN. BUT ONCE THEY STARTED, IT W VERY BUSINESS-LIE. PRESIDENT OMA GAVE A QUICK OPENING STATEMENT, HE CALLEDOR A VOTE ON THE RESOLION, AND IT WAS DONE, CLEARLY P-COOKED, IN, I THK IT WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE MINUTES. BU THEN AFTER THAT, AS THE LEADERS EACH HAD THEIROUR OR FIVE MITES EACH TO TALK, THAT'S WHEN YU SAW THAT, DESPITE COMM THEMES, THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES.

>> Woodruff: LL, ELABORATE ON OSE DIFFERENCES. WHAT DO YOU MN?

>> Warner: WELL, T MOST -- THEY HAVE DIFFENT VIEWS ON HOW TO EVEWORK TOWARDS A NUCLEAR FREE WLD, AND WHO SHOULD TAKE WHAT STEPS FIRST. BUT THE MOST SNIFICANT AND IMMEATE ONE WAS, OF COURSE, OVER AN, AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN SOME OF THE CLIPSHAT WE RAN IN MYTAPE PIECE THERE. I MEAN, BRAIN AND FRANCE ARE VERY EAGER-- APPARTLY IN PRIVATE AS MUCH ATHEY ARE IN PUBLIC-- TO MOVE TOHLY AGAINST IRAN IIT DOESN'T RESPOND SOON THE OFFER THAT'S ON THE TABLE. CHINAND RUSSIA ARE STILL RELUCTANT,ND SO TELLINGLY, OUGH THE AMERICANS HAD HOPED IN THIS RESOLUTION, WHICHS VERY, VERBROAD, IT WOULD REFERENCE IRANND NORTH KOREA, HAT IN FACT, IN THE END, IT DOES NOT.

>> Woouff: WELL SINCE THEY ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY MENTIED -- IRAN AND RTH KOREA -- WHAT EXACTLY, MARGARET, IS THE.S. TRYING TO AOMPLISH WITH THIS?

>> rner: WELL, JUDY, IT'S A VERY BAD GOAL. I MEAN, ONE, PRESIDENTBAMA SAID HE'D ULMATELY LIKE TO GET TO A CLEAR-FREE WORLD, BUT IN THE ANTIME, THEY REALLY WANT AS YOU AND TALKED ABOUT LAST NIT A LITTLE BIT, THAT THEY NT TO STRENGTHEN THE INTERNAONAL COMMUNITY'S ILITY TO PREVENT THE SPREAD NUCLEAR WEAPONS D TECHNOLOGY ARMSMATERIAL. AND SERAL OF THE LEADERS, YOU HEARD THEM SAY TODAY, REALLY ARE AT AURNING POINT. DDENLY THIS NUCLEAR CLUB IS ABOUT TO BALON AND MUSHROOM OUT OF CONTROL,ERHAPS EVEN TO NON-STATE ACRS, AS GORDON BWN SAID. SO IT'S A COMPLICATED SOLUTION, AND IT'S MANY PART IT IS MOSTLY SEING UP THE FRAMERK FOR A NUMBER OF ARMS NEGOTIATIONS AND MEETGS THAT ARE COMIG UP NEXT YEAR ON ALL THESE TOPICS. I'D SAY THE MOST IORTANT ONE IS THAT THEY SEEM TO REE THAT BOTH THE NUCLEAR NONPROLIFETION TREATY AND THE INTERNATIONAL ATOMIENERGY AGENCY OR I.A.E., NEED TO BE STRETHENED. AND THEY ARE GNG TO RE-OPEN TH SO-CALLED N.P.T. NEXT YER.

>> Woodruff: SO, THERE MAYE MORE MEAT ON E BONES THAN APPES?

>> Warne OH YES, OH YES. I MEAN, THIS WAS NOT AYOU KNOW, A DECISN MAKING, OR ACTI TAKING MEETING. BUT WAS GETTING ALL OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL AT A COMMON POINT ABOUT THE REAT THAT'S OUT THERE ANBROADLY WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. AS YOU CAN SE, THERE'S REALLY THREE LEGS OF THE STOOL:F NUCLEAR WEAPO STATES AGREE TO ART CUTTING THEIR ARSENALS MORE AGGRESSIVELY. EVERYONE AGREES ERE SHOULD BE NNEW NUCLEAR STATE. ANFINALLY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HEARD A LOT FROM THE PSIDENT OF UGANDA AND OTHENON- PERMANENT MEMBE, THEY SAID YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPING WOR NEEDS NUCLEAR ENERGY TECHNOGY. ANTHE NUCLEAR POWERS AGREE THAT SOMETNG HAS TO BE DONE TO SHARE THAT THNOLOGY, THAT CIVILIAN ENERGY USE MUCH MO BRDLY WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD, WITH INTERNATIAL SAFEGUARDS.

>> Woodruff: MARGARET, SO LOOKING BACK AT THISHOLE WEEK, WHAT --WHATOULD YOU SAY THAT THE UNITED STATES HAS ACHIED, HAS ACCOMPLISH HERE?

>> WarnerI'D SAY IN TWO AREAS. ONE WAS GETTING THISESOLUTION TODAY AND THE OTHER S YESTERDAY, GETTINPRESIDENT MEDVEDEV OF RSIA TO SAY PUBLICLY THAT HE WOULD CONSIDER SANIONS AGAINST IRA THE U.S. CE INTO THIS WEEK WANTING COME UP WITH A UNITED FRONT, AS IT AND RUSSIA AN INA AND GERMAN AND FRANCE AN BRITAINEAD INTO THIS CRUCIAL OCTOBER 1 MEETING WITH THE IRANIANS. AND SO, APPARENT, PRESIDENT MEDVEDEV INTO TO THE MEETI, SOMEONE THERE SAIHE CAME ESSENTILY, READY TO PLAY. HE S READY TO TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE IRAN ISSUE. AND HE DID EXPRES AS HE HAS FORE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA, THA HE SEES A THREAT OM BOTH THEIR WEAPONS DEVELOENT AND THEIR MSILE DEVELOPMENT. AND, THOUGHBAMA ADVISERS INSIST THERE'NO QUID PRO QUO SOUGHT FOR PRIDENT OBAMA'S DECISION LAST WEEK TO CHAE THE WHOLE MISLE DEFENSE SYSTEM IN EUROPE, PRESIDENT MEDVEDEV D SAY, AND REPORTERS HEANG, IT WAS CERTAIY A RATIONAL DECION. AND SO, AND THEN AARENTLY AT THE END, TERESTINGLY, AFTER TY HAD THIS MEETING AND BEFOR THEY CAME TO THE PRES MEDVEDEV ASKED FOR A PRIVATE ONE-OONE WITH PRESIDT OBAMA. ND LITERALLY EVERYONE LEFT T ROOM FOR FIVE MITES, AND JUST THEY TAED WITH THE INTPRETERS. I ASKED ONPERSON IF HE KNEW WHAWAS SAID, D HE SAID "YES, T I WON'T TELL YOU."

>> Woodruff: MARGARETARNER, WRAPPING UTHE WEEK FOR US AT THE UNITED NATIONS. THANK YOU, MARGARET.

>> Warner: THANKS, JUDY.

>> Lrer: IN OTHER NEWS TODAY, AN GHAN IMMIGRANT WAS INDICTED ON FEDERAL CHARGES OF PLTING TO SET OFF HEMADE BOMBS INSIDE THE U.S. NAJIBULH ZAZI HAS PUBLICLY DENIED THE CHARGES SINCEIS ARREST IN DENVR. BUT E INDICTMENT, IN NEW YORK CITY, SAID HE BOUGHLARGE AMOUNTS OCHEMICALS TO MIX PLOSIVES. IT ALSO SAID HWAS LOOKING FOR LP. FEDERAL AGENTS HAVE SAID THE MAYAVE BEEN PLANS TO BOMB COMMUTER TRAINS IN NEW YK. PAUL KIRK WAS NAM TODAY TO FILL T US SENATE SEAT LEFT VACANT BY SENATOR EDWARD KENNEDY'S DEATH. MASSACHUSTS GOVERNOR DEV PATRICK MADE THE APPOINTMENT. KIRK WAS A LONG-TIME FEND OF KENNEDY'S, AS WELL AS AORMER DEMOCRATIC PARTY CIRMAN. HE WILL HOLD E SEAT UNTIL A ECIAL ELECTION IN JANUARY. INOSTON, KIRK SAID HE'D KEEP THE LATE SENATOR KEEDY'S STAFF AS HIS OWN, AND KEEP WKING FOR HIS GOALS.

>> DURING YO YEARS TOGETHER, I WAS PEONALLY PRIVILEGEED TO HAVE HASENATOR KENNE'S FRIENDSHIP, HIS TRUST, ANDIS CONFINCE. HE OFTEN SAI THAT REPRESENNG T PEOPLE OF THE COMMONWEAL OF MASSACHUSTS IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES W THE HIGHE HNOR TH HE COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE AND IS CERTAILY NOTHING I IMAGINED, BUT IWOULD BE M HIGHEST HONOR AS WELL.

>> LehrerKIRK IS SCHEDULED TO BE SWORN INTO OFFICE TOMORW. THE U.S. HOUSEOTED TODAY TO BLOCK INCREASES IN MECARE PREMIUMS FOR SERAL MILLION ERICANS NEXT YEAR. LAWMAKERS REJECTED A SEDULED HIKE UNDER MEDICARE PART B WHCH COVERS DOCTORS VISITS. THEYAID IT WOULD HAVE COME AT A TIME WHENENIOR CITIZENS ARE LELY TO MISS A COST OF LIVING RAISE IN SOCIAL SECITY BENEFITS. THE SENATE PLANS TO TAKE UPHE BILL SOON. ON WALL STREETODAY, STOCKS FELL ONEWS THAT SALES OF EXTING HOMES WERE DOWN IN AUGUST. THE DOW JONES INDURIAL AVERAGE LOS41 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 9,707. T NASDAQ FELL MORE THAN 23 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 107. AND THE PRI OF OIL TUMBLED HARPLY FOR A SECOND DAY, IN NEW YORK TRADING. IT WAS OFF MORE THAN 4% TO SETTLE BELOW $66 AARREL. E LOW POINT WAS $33 LAST DECEMBER. A FEDERAL JURYAS REJECTED CLAI THAT HURRICANE VICTI WE EXPOSED TO HAZARDOUS FUMES INOVERNMENT TRAILERS. THE RDICT CAME LATETODAY IN W ORLEANS. IT WASHE FIRST TRIAL INVOLVING ALLEGED HEALTH DANGERS IN THE TRAILERS AFTER HURCANE KATRINA. A NEW ORLEANS WOAN CLAIMED FUM FROM FORMALDEHYDE I THE TRAILER AGGRAVATED HER SON'S ASTHMA. > Lehrer: AND STILL TO COME THE NEWSHOUTONIGHT, THE PITTURGH SUMMIT; AND THE SUCCESS OF THE LOST SYMBOL AT FOLLOWS ANALYSIS OF THE CONTINUING CONFRONTION OVER IRAN'S NLEAR PROGRAM. LAST NIGHTPRESIDENT OBAMA'S CHIEOF STAFF RAHM EMANUEL DISCUSSED WITH CHARLIE ROSEN P THE OPTIONS IRAN FACES.

>> IRAN HAS A CHOICE TO ME WHETHER THEY ANT TO BE A RESPONSIBLE MEMB OF THE INTERNATIAL COMMUNITY AND WHAT ARE THE ENTICEMES TO BE PART OF THATAVE OR ONE THAT'S MORE OF A PARIAH. > DOES THAT CHOICE HAVE T BE MADE AND HOW WILL IT BE EXPRESSED BEFORE THERES SERIOU ENGAGEMENT BETWEENTHE U.S. AND IRAN?

>> YOU WK ON BOTH LEVELS MULTANEOUSLY. TH KNOW THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO BEG A MEMBER OF THE INTERNAONAL COMMUNITY, AND THERE CONSEQUENCES TO ACTING AS A STATE THAT DOEST KE THE RESPONSIBILITIES AS A MEMBER OF THE INTERNATION COMMUNITY.

>> Rose: WHAT IS OUR SSAGE TO THE ISRLIS IF THEY DECIDE THE WANT TO TAKE MITARY ACTION AT SO POINT?

>> THAT I WOULDN'DO IT, EVEN THOHT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.

>> >> WHAT WOULD YOU KE TO DO?

>> , WAY. I'NOT GOING TO COMNT ON THAT HERE.

>> Rose: AY, BUT THE MESSAGE TO IRAN: IF, IN FACT, YOU OW, WHICH IS A CDITION, IF, IN FA, YOU SHOW THAT YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THEOMMUNITY OF NATIONS,ERE PREPARED TO ENGAGE YOU ON ALL BILATER RELATIONSHIPS TH EXIST, WHETER IT HAS TO DO WITH YOU STOPPING ENRICHING NUCAR FUEL.

>> A NUCLEAZED IRAN IS A THEAT TO THE REGION AND EVER -

>> Rose:VERYBODY KNOWS THAT. EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT.

>> BUT, AS THE PRESIDENT S QUITE CLEAR INOTH BILATERAL MEETINGS AS WELL AS 'S BEEN IN HI COMMUNICATION TO THE IRANIA GOVERNMENT,HEY HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE. THEY KNOW THE OPPORTUNITIES THOSE CHOICES ANTHE CONSEQUENCEOF THOSE CHOICES. AND THEY WILL, BUT WHATILL NOT HAPPEN I AS THE PRESIDENT SAID, MERELY TALKING FOR THE SAKE OF TALKING. THEY KNOW, AS YOGI BERRA CE SAD, WHEN YOU GET TO A FORK IN THE ROAD, TAKE IT. THEY'RE COMING UPON THATLACE WHERE THEY VE TO TAKE -- CHOOSE WT TYPE OF COUNTRY THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

>> Rose: OKAY, NOW, HOWO THEY MAKE THAT OICE? THEY JUST NT TO

>> WELL, YEAH --

>> Rose: THIS IS THE CICE THEY HAVE TO KE.

>> WELL, CHLIE, MAYBE YOU NE TO GET THEM HERE TO TALK. THAT'S MY RESPOIBILITY TO PRESENT THE IRANIAN PEOPLE BECAUSE...

>> Rose: YEAH, BUT ITS TO COMMUNICATEHAT YOU THINK THE CHOICE THAT THE GOVERNMENT H TO MAKE IN ORDER TO BE ENGAD BY THE UNITEDTATES.

>> RIGHT. WELLITS NOT JUST -- ITS NOT ENGAGEMENT FOR THE SA OF ENGAGEMENT.

>> Rose: RHT.

>> I-- THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS IT LATES TO A NUCLEAR IRAN, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUCES OF THAT CHOIC NOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HE TO DO; THEY KNOWHAT THE P5 PLUS 1 IS EXPECTING.

>> RoseTHEY KNOW BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM? >>TS BEEN...

>> RoseCOMMUNICATED TO THEM?

>> THEARE AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE AT PLAY, BUTTS NOT JUST A ISSE. THRE'S A SERIES OF ISSUES THAT RELATE TO WHAT, THOPPORTUNITY OF WHAT ENGAGEMENT MNS AND THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING ACOUNTRY THAT IS NOT EAGED AND IS ACTI >>ose: AND IT ALSO HAS TO DO WITH ISRAELI/PALESTIAN ISSUES?

>> A WLE HOST OF ISSUES THAT, AND THERE'S A WHOLEOST OF ISSUES. THEY UNDERSTAND THEM. EY, AS YOU KNOW, COMMUNICED ONCE A WILLINGNESS WITH E UNITED STAT TO DISCUSS THE RANGE OF ISSUES, BOTH THE REGION AND ROUGHOUT AND THEIR ROLE IN THAT.

>> Rose: DO YOU INK THEY COULD BE HEFUL ON AFGHANISTAN, THE IRANIANS?

>> WELL, THERE'S NO-- Y, THEY CAN. THEY COULD BE HELPFUL. AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S, SECRARY HOLBROOKE PTICIPATED IN AN INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE EAIER IN THE YEAR WHICH THEY ATTDED.

>> Rose: AND COD THEY HAVE --

>> AND THEY HAVE INTERTS THERE AS WELL,N A STABLE AFGHANTAN.

>> Rose: OH, TY'RE VERY INTERTED IN THAT, AND THEY ARE NOT A FRIEND OF E TALIBAN.

>> YOU KNOW THEISTORY AS WELL AS DO.

>> Lehrer: YOU CANEE ALL OF CHARLIS INTERVIEW WITH EMANUEL BY GOING TO A LINK TOIS WEB SITE FROM RS NEWSHOUR.PBS.ORG. NOW FOMORE ON CONFRONTING AND ENGAGING IRAN, WE GOO: RAY TEYE, HE ADVISED THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ON AN POLICY EARLI THIS YEAR. HE'S A SIOR FELLOW AT THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATION HIS LATEST BOOK "THE GUARDIANS OF THE REVOTION: AN'S APPROACH TO THE WORLD" D DAVID KAY, HE WAS THE U.N. CHIEF NUCLEAR WEONS INSPECTOR INRAQ IN THE 1990S. HE LED THE SEARCH F WEAPONS OF MASSESTRUCTION AFTER THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN 2003 FOTHE BUSH ADMINIRATION. HE'S NOW A SENR FELLOW AT THE TOMAC INSTITUTE FOR POLICY STUDIES. DAV KAY, SO, YOU TAKE THO WORDS FROMAHM EMANUEL ANDLL THE OER WORDS THATERE SPOKE AT E U.N. AND AROUND THE U. IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, WHAT'S CHANGED, IF ANYTHING.

>> I'M NOT SURE VE MUCH HAS CHANGED. MEAN, WHAT U... THE MOST IMEDIATE CHANGE HAS BEEN A NE IRANIAN DIPLOMATIC INITIATIVE OF TRYING...FFERING UP THEIR SCIENTISTS WHICH HAS BEEN A DEMANDAN THE I.A.E.A. FOR YRS TO TALK TO THERAS... THE IRANIAN SCIENTIST DIRECTLY, AND THEY HAVE REFUSED.

>> Lehrer: THAT CAME IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE ASHINGTON POST." AHMADINEJAD SAIDHAT.

>> THAT'S CORCT. AND THE SEND IS HEAID HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE US. SUPPLY HIM URANIUMOR A REACTOR RUN AT THE UNIVERSITYOF TEHRAN. TT IS REACTOR, INCIDENLLY, THATHE UNITED STATES SUPPLIES IN THE MID-19s AND THEN IT W FUELED WITH HIGH ENRIED URIUM. THESE ARE, IN MVIEW, STRAT GEMS OF ENGAGEMENT THAT WI, IN FACT, OVER TIME MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO WE... IT' GOING TO BE HARD NOTTO PICK UP THE OFFER TO TLK TO ANIAN SCIENTISTS. AFTERLL, AT THE DEPTHS OF THE COLD WAR, THIS WAS ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THE SIET UNION AND OVER TIME IT BORE FRUIT. BUT TO DUE DOTHAT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU GO AHEAD WITH N SANCTIONS I THIN IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD. THAT'S E GAME THE IRANIANS PLAY. TH UNDERSTAND SAMS.

>> Couric: SEAMS?

>> SEAMS IN OUR DIPLOMACY. YOU S IT THE SAME WAY MR. TAKEYH (

>> I ULD AGREE THAT. I THINK SCIECE MEETING IS A LTLE LESS THAN MEETSHE EYE BECAU SCIENTISTS ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE ENRICHED URANIUM A HAVE A TRACK TWIS O DISCUSSN AMONG THE SCIENTISTS AS OPPOSED TO ANSWERING ABOUT...

>> Lehrer: AND IT SOULDN'T BE ACCUSED WITH AN INSPEION.

>> NOT THE I.A.E.A. SCIENTISTS BUT DIFFENT CATEGORY OF SCIENTISTS. I THI THE IRIAN STRATE IS BECOMING APPARENT AS DAVID SGESTED. NAMELY TO OFFER TACTICAL ACCOMMODATIONS SUCH AS THE MEETING OF SCIENTISTS AND OFFER ENGAGEMENTS WHCH ISROAD BED AND RATHER INCONCLUSI WIOUT MAKING SUCCESSIONS THE BA OF THE NUCLEARPROGRAM, ITS SI, I SCOPE AND I PAST ACTIVITIES AND THIS COULD UCCEED IN THE SESE THERE'S NO POSSIBLEAY THE UNITED STAS IS NOT GOING TO ENGAGE. WE HAVE SAID WE'RE GOING TO MEET ON OCTOBER 1.

>> Lehrer: THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED.

>> AT'S ALREADYSCHEDULED AND THE QUESTION I CAN IRAANS DRAG OUT THAT PROCESSN A RATHER INCONCLUSIVE WAY B MAKING SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS.

>> Lehrer: SO I'M GOINGO ASK YOU THE IMPOSSIBLE QUESTION. WHAT E IN THE WORLD ARE THEY UP TO? I KNOW YOU DON KNOW WHAT THEY'RE UP TO, NOBODY DOES, BUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE UP TO? JUSTHEYING THINGS?

>> YEH, I THINK IT'S A TACT TO ADVANCE THE PROGM AND SORT OF CREAT FACTS ONHE GROUND. ONCYOU CREATE CTS ON THE GROUND SUGGEST THE FACTSARE IRREVERSIBLE. SO IF THEY CONTUE TO AANCE THE PROGRAM WHILE NTINUING TO HAVE THESE INCONCLUVE TALKS, THEN OU HAVE CERTAIN SITUATIONS COMEGENT WHICH TH WILL SUGGE WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HVE ALREADY BUT WE'LL TALK AUT FUTURE ARRANGEMENTS. MEANTIME, THE POGRAM EXPANDS IN SIZE AND SOPHISTICATI.

>> Lehrer: AND MEANTIME THE PROGRAM CONTINUES. AND WHERE DO YOU THK IT IS RIGHNOW, DAVID KAY? THE QUESTION EVERYBODY WTS TO KNOW WHERE ARE THEY?:ú HOW LONG WILL I TAKEHEM.

>> Lehrer: HOW LONGILL IT TAKE FOR THEM TO HAVE A BB.

>> WELL, ONE DVICE THAT WOULD EXPLE SOMEWHERE IN A DESERT, EY'RE PROBABLY TWO YEARS AWA FROM BEING ABL TO DO IT. BU ONE DEVICE IS NOT SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS O RLLY ANHING IN TERMS OF A PROGRAM. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A WARHEAD THAT WILL WORK ON A MISSLE, THAT IS SHAWL ENOUGHTO WORK ON A MISSILE AND TH IS PENDABLE. AS I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES, YOU CAN'T PHOTO SHOP OUT A MISSILE THAT DSN'T GO OFF THAT H A NUCLAR WARHEAD HEADED FOR ANY PLACE IN THE MIDDL EAST. I THINK THERE TEN YEARS AWAY FROM HAVING THAT RT OF MILITARY PROGRAM. SO I THINK WE HAVE TIME. BUT I'M CONVIED THAT THEY'RE ADED... THAT'S THE DIRECTN THEY'RE GOING ON. THEY WA TO GAIN TIME.

>> Lehrer: IS THE ANY QUESTI YOUR MIND THAT TAT'S WHERE YOU HEADED?

>> THE NLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAM? NO. THINK THE I.E.A. HAS SUGGESED SOME OF THE EERIMENTSHAT HAVE CONDUCTED, SOE OF THE MISSILE TECHNOLOGIES THEY HAVE DEVELOPED, THE MYSTERIOUS COMPUER LAB WITH DATA REGARDI NUCLEAR WEAPONS DESIGNS AND THE FACTHE COUNTRY THAT I RICH IN OIL AND NARAL GA IS SPENDING AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OFONEY ONUCLEAR PROGRAMS WHILE IT DOE'T ACTUALLY HAVE AN INDIGENOUS URANIUM CAPACITY. >>Lehrer: YOU SAY "THEY,"F COURSE, THE IRANIANS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Lehr: FIT AHMADINEJAD INTO THIS. WHAT KIND OF POWER DOES HE EXERCISE AFTER ALL OF THE STUFF STILL GOING ON, THE PROTESTS OVR HIS ELECTION.

>> I THINK HE'S ACTUALLY SONG INTERIMLY IN TER OF THE FACT THAT THECATEGORY OF INDIVUALS WHO ARE EMPORING HAS NARROWED. THEEGIME HAS GONE THROH SOME DEGREEOFIDEOLOGICAL PURGES SO MORE MODERATE ELEMENTSHAN REFORMIST ELEMES HAVE BEEN EXCISED FROM POW. HE'S ACTUALLY IN A MORE COANDING SITUATION. HE'S PROBABLY, MY OPINION, THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN IRAN, DESPE THE FACT THAT HE CAME TO POWER WI ELECTOR IRREGULARITIES AND EFFIENCIES. HIS POSION IS... IN TERMS OF INSTITUTIO OF IRAN RATHER STRON Lehrer: SECOND ONLY TO HOMINY.

>> THE SUPREME LEADER, YE

>> Lehrer: DO YOUAGREE WHEN MADINEJAD SPEAKS HE SPEAKSFOR IRAN.

>> I THINK THE EVIDEN WE HAVE AVAILABLE...E OUGHT TO BE FRANK. THERE'S A LOT ABT IRAN WE DOT KNOW. THERS NO FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER, NOEMBER OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITY SERVING DAY WHO HAS EVER SERVED IN IRAN. IT'S ORDER OF MAGNITUDE DFERENT, FOR EXAMPLE, TH THE VIET UNION WHERE WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF AMERINS WHO HAD SERVEDHERE. WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT A VY OPAUE POLITICAL PROCESS. BUT ON T BASIS OF THE EVINCE WE HE, I THINK, YES HE'S I A STRONG POTION.

>> Lehrer: FINALLY,WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SATIONS AND INCREASING SANCTIONS ANDMAYBE THE RUSANS MIGHT GO ALONG AND MAYBE THEY WON'T BUT PRESINT OBAMA ISDETERMINED TO INCREA THE SANCTIONS. WHAT KIND OF SANIONS WOULD ACTUALLY HU IRAN? WELL, THE KIND OF SANCTIONS THAT WOULD HURT IN ARE THE KIND OFSANCTIONS THAT WOULD HUT THE POPULATION OF IRAN, ICH HAS ITS OWN DIFFICULTIES IN TER OF RESTRICTG THE AMOUNT OF PETROLEUM AT THE COUNTRY IMPORTS. I MEAN, WH YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CUTTING PEOPLE'S HEATING OILN WINTER. AND OTHER SU IMPOSIONS ON THIS BANKING SYST.

>> Lehr: AND THAT COULD BE DONE BY A MULTINATIAL... I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING BECAUSES A MATTER OF FACT THE FRENCHOREIGN MINISTER DISPARED THAT PARTICULAR SANCTION, PERHA UNBEKNOWNST TO HISWN PRESIDENT. ALSO, THERE' THE SANCTION ISSUE IS RATHER IRRELEVA BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR ANIAN REGI DOESN'T PUT PREMIUMN ECONOMIC GROWTH, TY PUT PREMUM ON STRATEGIC GAIN. SO EVEN IF Y MANAGE TO SUCCESSFULLY IOSE A SANCTIS REGIME ON TM, THAT I CORCEIVE AND PAIUL. IT IS UNLIKELY TO CHANGE THEIR FUNMENTAL NUCLEAR OBJECTIVES.

>> Lehrer: DO Y AGREE WITH THAT, DAVID?

>> THINK THAT'S RIGHT. ONE DIFFICULTY THE FUEL OIL OR GALINE SANCTION ON THEM AT VERY FEW PEOPLE THINKF, WHAT HAPPENSS WHENHE IRIANS URN TO THEIR NEXT DR NEIGHBOR, THE SHI'A GOVERNMENT IN IRAQ AND SAY "WE'D LIKE TO HAVE SOMEASOLINE FROM YOU"? YOU KNOW, PERFECTLY POSSIBLE MOVE BECAUSE WHAT WOULD EMBARRASS AND HURT THEOST IS THE.S.ELATIONSHIP WITH THE IRAQIS. SO I THINK THERE E A LOT OF YS OUT. I THINK THAT'S AON-STARTER. I ACTUALLY THINK IF YOU LOOK AT AHMADINEJAD'S STAMENTS AT THE U.N.,HAT HE HAS REALLY DONE IS MADE IT VERY DIICULT FOR THE U.S. TO T A COALITIO THAT INCLUDES THE CNESE AND THE USSIANSND EVEN THE GERMANS WHO HAVE AERY DIFFERENT POLICY THAN THE FRENCH TO GO ALONG WITH UGH SANCTIS THAT ON THEAME TI WE HAVE A TABLE OFFER TO ENGAGE OUR SCIENSTS. HAVE AN OUR TO COME IN AND HELP WITH US A MICAL REACTOR, ISOTOPE REACTOR. THESE ARE GOING TO BE SEEN BY THINGS THAT DON'T WANT TO ENDORSE TOUGH SANCTIONS AS AN OPENING. LET'S ENGAGE THE POCESS.

>> Lehrer: AREOU SEEING THEM WINNING THIGAME?

>> IRANIANS HAVE BE WINNING THIS GAME SINCE 2005. THEY HAVE MANAGED TO SADANCE THEIR PROGRAM WITH IMPUNIT EVERYBODY SINCE2005, EVERY NATION, HAS CHANGED ITS RED LINESINCLUDING THE UNITED STATES. THE ONE COUNTRYED THAT THAT HAS NOT HAS BEEN THE ISLIC REPUBLIC OF IRA

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED LINES THAT HE BEENCROSSED SINCE 2005,YOU'D HAVE A PINK DESERT LINE BETWEEN US A THE ANIANS. WE HAVEDRAWN SO MANY RED LNES THAT HAVE BEEN OBLITERATEBY A RLLY SMART, SPAKTALL SMART IRAAN FOREIGN LICY.

>> Lehrr: SO WE COINUE TO DRAW LINES THEY'RE GOIN TO CONTIN TO TURN PINKER?

>> I THINK THAS WHERE WE ARE.

>> Lhrer: OKAY. GENTLEME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Lehr: NEXT TONIGHT, NEW HOPE FOR AN AIDS VACCINE RE THAN TWO DEDES AFTER THE DIEASE WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED. TOM CLARKE OF INDEPENNT TELEVISION NEWHAS OUR REPORT.

>> THIS IS THANAT YHA, A PUBLIC HEAH VOLUNTEER IN THLAND'S RAYONG PROVINCE. THIS AREAAS SOME OF HIGHEST RATES OF HIV IN THE COTRY, MAKING IT AN IDEAL PLACTO STUDY THE VIRU W AFTER SIX YEARS OF WORK HE, LARGEST EVER TRIAL OF AIDS VACCINES IS COMPLE. IT SUESTS WHAT SOME SCIENTISTS HAD BEGUN TO THINK IOSSIBLE: THEUMAN IMMUNE SYSTEM CAN BE ARMED AGAINST HIV

>> THIS IS A BREAK TOUGH. THIS IS THFIRST TIME WE CAN PROVE THE VACCINE CANBE DEVELOPED TO PREVENT INFECON WHICH IS AIRST STEPPING STONE FOR FURTHER VACCINE DEVELOPMENT. Reporter: IN THE LAST 26 ARS, SO MANY AIDS VACCINE TRIALSHAVE FAILED. MANY SCIENTISTS ARGUED IT WAS UNETHIC TO ATTEMPT THIS ONE. BUT THE AI MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND THE US ARMY, WHICH NDED THE RESEARCHPUSHED AHEAD. SMLER STUDIES SUGGESTED TWO VACCINES, WHICH HAD EVIOUSLY FAILED, GHT JUST WORK IN MBINATION. HIV INFECTS IMMU CELLS, THAT'S WH IT'S BEEN SUCH A CHALLENGE FOR VACCINE RESEAHERS. THE VIRUHIDES WITHIN THE VERY IMMUNE SYSTEM CCINES ARE DESIGN TO STIMULATE. THIS TRIAL USED TWO EXISTG VACCINES EACH DE FROM A DIFFERT COMPONENT OF HIV. THE FIR CALLED ALVAC CONTAINS THREE HIV GENES WRAPPED IN A DISABLED RUS THAT'S HARMLESS TO HUMANS. THE SECOND, CALLED AIVAX IS MADE FROM PROTEINS CALLED P120 THAT COVERS THE SURFACEF THE VIRUS. OV 16,000 PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN THE TRIAL. OF THE 8,197 GIVEN THE VACCNE COMBO 51 BECA INFECTED WITH HIV, OF THE ME NUMBER WHO GOT DUMMY SHOTS 74 BECAME INFTED. A DEST EFFECT, BUT STISTICALLY EQUATES TO A GREATER THAN 30% REDUCON IN RISK OF NFECTION. THERE'S STILA LOT TO EXPLAIN. LIKE Y TWO THIDS OF THE VOLUNTEERS WHO WENT ON CONTRACT HIV DESPITEAVING RECEIVED JABS T AS SICK AS THOSWHO GOT NO VACCINE. IF VACCINES DON'T PREVT INFECTION THEYHOULD MAKE IT LDER. THEY ALSOEED TO SEE IF THE VACCINES WORK AGAINST OTHER RAINS OF HIV, AND IN PEOPE WITH DIFFERENGENETIC BACKGRODS.

>> IT'S THE FIRST TIME THE HISTORY OF.I.V. VACCINE RESEARCH THAT W'VE HAD A RSULT THAT GIVES US A POSITIVEFFECT. BUT THE AFFECT I RELATIVELY MODE, SO IT'S NOT AS THE JOB IS DONE BUT IT GIVES US SOMETHING REALLY WORK ON AND A AY FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY DEVELOPING A TRULY PREVENTATIVE VACCINE.

>> Repoer: EVERY DAY 7,000 PEOPLE BECOME INFECTED WITHIV, MOST NEW CAS ARE STILL SUB- AHARAN AFRICA, THOUGH THE DISEASE IS EXPANDININ EASTERN EUROPE HILE HOPES FOR A VACCINE MAY HAVE BEEN RE-KINDL TODAY -- IT'S LONG WAY OFF AT BEST. EVEN PROPONTS WARN THE EMPSIS SHOULD REMAIN ON OTHER FORMS OF PROTECTIO CORRECT AND CONSISTENT U OF MALE AND FEMALE CONDOMS, INJECTING BEHAVIS, MALE CIRCUMCISION,E HAVE A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE FLOW EFFECTIVE ANDE'VE GOT TO SLE THOSE UP NOWHILE WE'RE WORKING ON A VACCINE.

>> Reporte: THANAT YOHMA KNOWS HE MIGHT NOT SEE A VACCE IN HIS LIFETE.

>> I DIDN'T EXPECTNYTHING. I DID TS OTHERS AND AS FOR ME, CONSIDERINHOW OLD I AM, WHAT WE L DO NOWS FOR THE NEXT GENERATIONS.

>> Rorter: AT LEAST NOW HIS SUCCESSORS KNOW AN HIVACCINE ISN'T T MUCH TO HOPE FOR.

>> Lehrer: YOU C LEARN MORE ABO THE PROMISE AND THE LIMITS F THE NEW HIV VACCINE ON OUR WEBSITE WSHOUR.PBS.ORG.

>> Lehrer: NOW, THE GATHERINOF MAJOR ECONOMICOWERS AT THE G20 MEETING IN TTSBURGH, A YEAR TER THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. OUR ECONOMICS COESPONDENT, PAUL SMAN, IS THERE. AS WORLD LEADERS BEGAN ARRIVG TODAY AND PROSTS TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE PAUL OKE WITH BRAZIL'S PRESIDENT ABOUT ECOMIC MATTERS, AD THE POLITICAL ANDOFF IN HONDURAS. THALATEST DEVELOPMENT BEING THE OUSTED HONDURAPRESIDENT TAKING REFUGE IN THE BZILIAN EMBASSY. THAT'WHERE PAUL'S CONRSATION BEGINS.

>> Repter: PRESIDENT DA SILVA, THANK YOU VERY MH FOR JOINING US. HOW DID T DEPOSEED HONRAN ESIDENT, MANUEL ZELAYA WIND UP IN THE BZILIAN EMBASSY IN HONDURAAND DID YOU HAVE ANYTHI DO WITH IT?

>> ( translated): WELL, HE HAD TO STOPN SOME EMBASSY. I BELIEVE THAT OUR CONCERN IS NOT TO KNOW WHAT EMBASSY HE' IN OR HOW HE GOT TO E EMBAS BAUSE I RECEIVED INFORMATIO ALREADY IN NEW RK CITY. THAT'S WHEN I FUND OUT THE FA OF THE MATT IS THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE THA OVERTHREW THE PRESIDENIN POWER NOW, SOMEONE THRGH A COUP'ETAT. A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT WAS OVTHROWN AND IT'S FAIR THATHE ELECTED PRESIDENT WANTS TO GO BACK TO HIS POST. AND THOSE THAT PARTICITE IN THE COUP'ETAT, IF THEY WANT TO BE PRESIDENT THEY SHOUL RUN FOR THE NEXT ELECTN. AND WE CANNOT ACCEPT OR ALL ANY COUP D'ETAT EXPERIENCE IN LAT AMERICA.

>> Rerter: ARE YOU DOING ANYTHING GET HIM OUT?

>> WELL, WHAT WE WNT IS THAT HONDURAS SHOULD GO BACK TO A NORMAL SITUATION. THE BRALIAN GOVERNMENT EXPECTS THERE THAT THERE SULD BE NO VIOLATION AINST THE BRAZILIAN EMBAY, OF OUR TRRITORY. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIMEN THE WORLD'S HISTORY THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING PERSECUTEDAND WANT REFUGIN FOREIGN EMBASSIES, THEY AR REFUES. E NORMAL FACT IN HONDURAS IS TOE IN E PRESIDCY PEOPLE WOULD NOT... WRE NOTELECTED OR THE PRESIDENCY, TAT'S THE ABNORMAL FAC >>Reporter: DOES THE PRINENCE OF IS G-20 MEETING MEAN THAT EMERGING ECONOMIES LI BRAZIL'S ARE FINELY TTING THEIR DUE?

>> WELL, IELIEVE THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT IN THEORLD OF TODAY FOR YOU TO CONTINUE WITH G-8 ONLY WITHOUT TAKING T ACCOUNTING IMPORTAN OF BRAZIL, CHINA, INDIA MAINLY IN THE WORLD ECONY BECAUSE WE ARE GAT COUMERS, LARGE CONSUMERS, AND WE'RE ALSO BECOMING GAT PRODUCERS AND ALSO CAUSE WE WERE BETER PREPAR THAN THE CH COUNTES FOR THISRISIS. THIS IS THEIRST GLOBAL CRISIS THAT DOESN'T START I POOR COUNTRIES AND ITWAS CAUSED BY THE RICH COUNTRIS. AND THE INSTITUTIONSIKE I.F. WORLD BANK THAT NEW SUPPOSEDLY EVYTHING WHEN THE CRISIS HAPPENED INRAZIL IN COUNTRIES LIKE BRAZIL NOW THEY DON'T KOW NOTHING WHEN HE CRISIS HAPPENE INHE U.S. AND SO IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TIS CRISIS AND DO THINGSHE RIG W TO VE... THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMAS TOBE REGULATED HAVE TO END WITH TH TAX HAVE AND IT'S NECESSARYHAT THE CENTRAL BANKS IN T WORLD SHOULD CONTROL AITTLE BIT THE BANK FINANCING BECAUSE THEY CANNOT BYPASS A CERTAIN RANGE OF LEVERAGE AND SO I BELIEVE THA TODAY IF YOU WANT ME TO BE SINCERE, I BELIEVE THAT THE'S NO OTHER MORE... ANY REASON FOR A G-8 GROUP OR ANY OTHER"G." I BELIEVE THAT WE SOULD GUARANTEE THATHE G-20 SHOULD BE NOW AN IMPORTA FORUM TO DISCUSSTY T MAOR ECONOMIC SUES OF THE WORLD.

>> Reporter: BRAZIL HASN'T BEE BADLY HURT BYHE ECONOMIC CRISIS. IS THAT BECAUSE YOU SO HEILY REGULATED YOUR BANKINGSECTOR AFER YOUR LAST ECONOMIC CRIS OF THE 1990s? AND WOULD Y HAVE OTHER COUNTRIES DO WHAT YOU DID SHOULD THE U. DO WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS.

>> WELL, THAT'SWHY, TOO, IT'S TRUEWE HAVE A FINANCIAL SYEM TH IS HIGHLYREGULATED, THAT THE BRAZILIAN FINANCL SYSTEM CANNOT LEVERAGE MORE THAN TEN MES ITS NET WORTH. AND HERE IN THE U.S, THEY REACHED 35IMES THEIR LEVERAGE OF THE NET WORTH O THEANKS ERE. WHENHE CRISIS CAME BRAZIL WAS ALREADY IN A GOOD STA AND THE BANK OF BZIL, WHICH IS A STATE-OWNED BANK, BGHT SOME STAS AND BOUGHT SOME PRIVATE BANKS, TOOK OV PRIVATE BANKS SO THAT IT COULD HVE MORE MONEY TO FINANCE THE CARINDUSTRY SO PEOPLE CAN BUY USED CARS BECAUSE THEREDIT CRUNCH... CREDIT VANISHED AROUNTHE WORLD. THE WAS A CRUNCH IN BRAZIL AND THE REST OFHE WORLD. SINCWE HAVE SOUND AND SOLVENT STATE OED BANKS, WEAVE BANK OF BRAZIL, THE FERAL SAVINGS BANK WHICHINCENTIVES AND FINANCE LOW INCE HOUSING, WE HAVE THE NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT BANK THAT FINANCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT SO WE'RE MUC MOREN A COMFORTABLEITUATION. AND WN THE CRISIS CAME, WE STILLNNOUNCED A PROGRAM THAT WILL CONSTRUCT ONE MILLION USES FOR LOWNCOME BRACKTS OF THE POPULATION AND WE GAVE TAX BREAKS FOR ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES, CA,OMPUTERS, REFRIGERATORS A SO THE ECONOMY BECAUSE OF THE TAX BREAKS THAT HAD SUFFERED THRE OR FOUR MONTHS WITH E CRISIS I LAST MARCH STARTE TO RECOUP AND NOW IT'S GOING VERY WELL.

>> Reporter: YOU TOLDHE BBC CENTLY THEICH WERE RESPONSIBLE F THIS CRISIS, THE BLUE EYED BANKERS. YOU WEREN'T GOING TO ALLOW THE BLAME THE POOR OF THE WLD. WHAT DID YOU MEAN? DOESN'T EVERYBODY BME THE BANKERS NO MTER WHAT THE EYE COLOR?

>> ( translated ): TIT I'M MARRD WITH A WOMAN THAT HAS BLO HAIR AND BLU EYES. THE PROBLEM THAT WHEN I GAVE THIS INTERVIEW, I WAS WITH GOON BROWN, HE WAS IN BRAZIL AND THERE WAS A PERSETION GOING ON TO THE IMMIGRANTS, ESPECLLY IN EURO, THE ACKS IN EUROPE, THE LATINO AND I SID VERY CLEARLY THE CRISIS WAS CAUSED NOT BY BLKS OR BY LATINOS THE CRISIS WAS CAUSED BY THE BANK BANKE THAT HAVE BLUE EYES.

>> Reporter: SO YOU WANTEDO MAKE SURE THAT THERE SN'T A CON NATION OR MISKE THAT PEOPLE S "LET'S KEEP OUT THE IMMIGNTS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING ONOMIC TROUBLE" BECAUSET WASN'T THEIR FAUT. THAT WAS YOUROINT?

>> YES, THAT WAS MY POINT. BECAUSET'S AFALSE IDEA OR CONCEPT THATHEN THERE'S A CRISIS POP YOU PUT THE BLAME ON THE IMMIGRANTS AND YOU PIT THE IMMIGRANTS AGAINSTHAT PPLE OF THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY ARE.

>> Reporter: GEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE AMAZO AND TAKING THEARBON OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE, A YOU WILLING COMPROSE MORE ON GLAL WAMING? AS CHINA'S PRESIDENT HU NOW EEMS TO BE, INSTEAD OF JUST, AS ENOU THE PAST, LARGELY BLAMED THE DEVELONG... THE DEVOPED WORLD OR AT LEASTSAID WE HAVE TO TAKE AION FIRST

>> translated ): I'M N PUTTI THE BLAME ON ANYBO. WHAT WE WANT IS TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE WHAT IS AT STAKE ISOT MY LIFE ANYMORE FOR MY GENERATION BUT FOR MY GRANDSONND FOR THE LIFE OF MYONS AND DAUGHTS AND GRANDSONS. SO WH HAPPENS IS THE RICH COUNTRIES SHOULD HAVE SUCH GREAT AUND TO OFFSET THE POOR COURIES TO COMPENSATE THO COUNTRIES THAT STIL HAVE FORESTS TO CONSERVE. BUT EACH ONE OF US, WE HAVE TO ASSUME RESPOIBILITIES EITHER FOR THE AMOUNT OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIO, A FACT THAT WE ARE A RELIABLE,ND EACH COUNTRY HAS THEIR OWN RESPONSILITY, AND ALSO FOR CARBON SEQUESTRATION.

>> Reporter: WH YOU WERE ECTED-- AND THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION-- THE WORLD W AFRAID, AS I MENTIONED ELIER, THAT YOU WERE A LE WING DEMAGOGUE. WHATAPPENED? ( translated ): WELL, I BIEVETHAT THERE WAS A LOT OF BAD FAITH D A LOT OF PREJUDICE AGAIN MY FIGURE. THERE WAS CAST OF BRAZILIAN POLITICIANS TH IMAGINED A LATHE OPEROR COMING OUT FROM A PLANTOULD NOT HAVE THE XE TEPS TO GOVERN BRIL AND I HAD TO OVE AND EVERYDAY A EVERY MINUTE THAT I HAVE MOR COMTENCY THEN THEM TO RULE(X BRAZIL BECAUSE IAVE MUCH MORE COITMENT WITH THE COUNTRY, BECSE I KNOW BETTER MANY I COUNTRY, BECAUSE KNOW MORE OF THE PEOPLE. AND FOR ANOTHER RSON, TOO, BECAUSE ANY OTHER PRIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC IN BRAZIL, WH HE LEAVES E PRESIDENCY, WILL COME TO NEW YO CITY,E'LL GO TO PIS, TO LOND AND SAY TWO OR THREE YEARS STUDYING AND THEN AFTER FOUR YEARS HE GOES BCK AGN TO BRAZI IF IT GOES STRONG, THE SAME THING... HE'LL DO THE SAME THING. NLY IN MY CASE, WHEN MY PRESIDENCY ENDS, I WILL GO BACK TO MY HOME INDUSTRIAL 800 METERS FROM MY LCAL TRADE UNION THAT PROJEED ME MY POLITICAL LIFE. AND IF I FAIL, WHEN I GOACK TO MY HOMETOWN IT'S GOINGO TAKE ANOTHER CENRY FOR ANOTHER WORKER,NOTHER MEMBER OF THE WORKING CLA TO REACH THE PREDENCY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOI SEE THAT THE WORKE DO NOT HAVE THE XE TECITY TO RUNHE COUNTRY.

>> porter: PRESENT LULA DA SILVA, THAN YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. A.

>> Lehrer: HERE'S E REPORT AS COVERAGOF THE G-20 AS RT OF THE PROJECT "MAKINSENSE OF FINAIAL NEWS." HE COMPLETED THI STORY FOR PROTESTO AND POLICE CRASHED ON THE STREETS PITTSBURGH A F HUNDRED PEOPLE DEMONSTRAT. POICE FIRED TEAR GAS BUT THERE WERENO MAJOR INJURES OR ARRTS.

>> DR. JOSEPH STIEGLITZ.

>> Reporter: AT AN INN CITY PITTSBURGH CHCH, THE WORLD BANK'S FORM CHIEF ECOMISTS, NOW A HERO OF ECONOMIC SKEPTICS. JOE STIGLITZ WASERE TO BLST THE G20, ABOUT TO CONVENE AMIDST HEAV SECURITY JUST A FEW MILES AWAY.

>> WHAT GO ON BEHIND TSE CLOD DOORS WILL AFFECT THE LIVES OFLL OF US L OVER THE WORLD.

>> Rerter: AN ACTIST WITH NOB PRIZE STRET CREDIT IEGLITZ HAS A CRITIQUE CHAING THE.D.P.--TOTAL OUTPUT-- HAS BECOME AARGE LOUSY MEASURE OF EONOMIC WELL-BEING BYAILING TO ACCOUNT FOR GROWTH'S COSTS LET ME GIVE YOU ONE EXAME. 30YEARS AGO WE WEREN' TALKING ABOUT CLATE CHANGE, ENVONMENTAL DEGRATION WAS NOT AS IMPORTANT ASIT IS TOD.

>> Reporter: THE SEPTEMBERHEAT THE PITBUR PE ALMOST SEEMED TO KE THE CASE FOR HM. BUT STIGLITZ HAS ANHER PROBLEM WITH G.D.P. AS A MEASUR THAT GROWTH IN TOT OUTPUT MASKS GRING INEQUALITY WHICH, AS IT HAPPENS, WAS THE THE OF THE TENT CIT NEXT DOOR.

>> G.D.P. HAS BEEN GOING UP PER CAPI BUT MOST AMERICANS ARE ACTUALLY RSE OFF. SO MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS ACTLLY FALLING.

>> Rporter: MEANWHILE, HOWEVER, REVIVING WORLD GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT REINSTHE KEY JECTIVE OF THE G20. THE DELEGAES GATRINGOWNTOWN HAS VARIOUS PROPOSALS FOR THAT REVIVAL: TOUGHEREGULATION OF BANK CAPITAL REQUIREMENTS, EXECUTIVE PAY AND GLOBAL FINANCE IN GENERAL, REBALANCING THE WORL ECONOMY SO THE US., FOR AMPLE, IS NO LONGER THE CONSUMER OF LA RESORT R CHINA THE WORLS ONLY SAVER. BUTT ALL SEEMED PRETTY ABSTRACT TO THE PROTESTORS NEXT DOOR TTHE CHURCH. >>THIS IS AN EMPLOYMENT TENT CITY.

>> AT'S RIGHT, THIS IS BAI OUT TH PEOPLE MOVEMENT WHICH IS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVE THE COUNTRY W SAY THAT THE RECOVER CANNOT HAPPEN WITHOUT JOBS.

>> Reporter:OW, ADMITTEDLY, ESE PEOPLE DIDN'T LOOK LIKE UR USUAL ECONOMIC EXPERTS. BUT TH CERTAINLY WERE EARNEST ENOUGH WHEN ASKED WHYHEY WERE HERE.

>> I'M HERE TO PROTT GLOBAL CAPITALM, AND THE BANK BAILOUTS, AND WHAT THE G20 DOING AND THE DISIONS THEY'RE MANG.

>> THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN AGCY LIKE THE G20 DIDING THE FATE OFHE WORLD'S FUTURE WHEN THE UNITED STATES ITSELCAN'T TAKE CARE ITS OWN PEOPLE HERE. >REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A HORRIBLEHING THAT SO MANY DECISIONS ARE MADEITHOUT THE INPUT PEOPLE TH THEY AFFECT.

>> THEY'RE GOING TO CHOE WHO'S HUNGRY, WHO'S HOMELESS WO'S JOBLESS.

>> Reporter: BUT ISN'T IT AOOD IDEA TO HAVAN ORGANIZATION - INDIA, CHINA, UNITED STATES, EUROPE - ALL TOGEER TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COORDATE THINGS?

>> UH, I MEAN, IOULD THROW OUT A OT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BECOM LIKE CLICHEÉ STATEMENTS LIKE 'ENDING GLOBAL CAPITALISMAND ALL THAT, WHICH, ULTIMATELY, LIKE, I AM FOR, AND IF THEREAS BUTTON THAT CLD JUST LIKE WIPE THE WHOLE THING OU YEAH, BUT, MAN, I ALWAYS OW IT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA.

>> Reporter: BUONE OF SID'S FELW TRAVELERS DIDN'T THINK HE'D BLOWN IT AT ALL.

>> IF EVERYTNG WAS TO FALL APT AND WE STARTED OVER AGAIN, THINK WE COULD ACCOMPLISH A LOT MOREECAUSE WE'D HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS OALL THE PEOPLE RE.

>> Reporter: THE END, WILL HEARST BROUGHT IT ALL BACHOME TO PTSBURGH, HOST TO THE G20 THIS TIME AROUND.

>> ERE'S A HUGE GAP BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE,HE WORKING CLASS OFMERICA, WHO LIVEN THESE SLUMS, AND THE WEALTHY ELITE WHO ARE MBERS OF THE G20 O ARE DECIDING THE FUTURE OF THESE PEOPLE AND BILLIONS MORE IN THE THIRD WORLD.

>> Reporter: TH'S A VIEW DEEPLAT ODDS WITH THE SELF- IMAGE OF THE DELEGATES DNTOWN, OF COURSE. ESPECIALLY OSE WITH SLUMS APLENTY BACK HOME, WHO WOULSAY THE 0 IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AT LONG LAST, TO ADDRESS THE ECONOC PLIGHT OF THEIR PEOPLE TOO.

>> Lehrer: WE HAVEORE ON THE G20 MTING ON OUR WEBSITE NEWSHOUR.PBS.ORG. YOU CAN FIND OUT IF THE SUMIT WILL ENDORSE GULATORY REFORMS NOT. AND LEARN H THE ECONOMIES O MEMBER NATIONS E DOING IN THE RESSION.

>> Lehrer: FINALLY TONIGHT,HE EXTRAORDINARY MING OUT OF DAN OWN'S LATEST BLOCKBUSTER NOVEL. JEFFREY BROWN HAS OUR SRY.

>> Reporter: T FORMAL NAME OF HIS WASHINGTON D.C. BUILDING IS A MOUTHFUL: "E TEMPLE OF THE PREME COUNCIL OF E 33RD AND LAST DEGREE OF TH ANCIENT AND ACCEED SCOTTISH RITEF FREEMASONRY FOR THE SOUTHERN JURISIDICTION F THE UNITED STATE" "THE HOUSE OF THE TEMPLE"OR SHORT.

>> Reporter: ACCORDG TO S. BRENT MOIS, OF THE 'NATIONAL SCTISH RITE JOURNAL, THEY'RE NOT US TO MANY VISITORS HERE, BUT THAT'S L ABOUT TO CHANGE, THKS TO DAN BROWN AND HIS NEW NOVEL, "THE LOSTYMBOL".

>> WHAT'S ARACTING THEM IS THE OPENING SCENE OF THE BOOKND THE CLIMAX OF E BOOK OCCUR IN IS BUILDING. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS ATTRACTED MYSTERY, THAT'S Y THEY GO SEE MICIANS, THEY WANT TO SEE SOMETHING MYSTERIOUHAPPEN THAT THEYAN'T EXPLAIN. A LOT OF PEOPLERE ATTRACTED TO THE MASONS BECAUSE THEY PCEIVE US AS THIMYSTERIOUS SECRETIVE ORGANIZATION.

>> Reporter:N OTHER WORDS, A PERFECT FOIL FOR BROWN, OSE "DA VINCI CE" SET AMID DARK SECRETS, SYMBOLS AND SECTS THE CATHOLIC CHURC HAS SOLD MORE THAN 80 MILON COPIES AND S MADE INTO A FILM STARRING TOM HANKS, PLAYINGROWN'S HERO, ROBE LANGDON. IN "THE LOST SYMB", LANGDON IS BK. THIS TIME, THTWEEDY HARVARD "SBOLOGIST" IT'S A MADE-UP TERM -- THERE'S NO SUCACADEMIC DISCIPLINE,ETS CAUGHT UP IN THE WOD OF THE MASONS A FRATERNY WHOSE ORIGINS ARE SAD TO GO BACK TO THE 1400S IN BRITAIN. LODES OPENED IN THE 1700S, SPREADING TO THE U. WHERE MBERS, ENCOURAGING FREE THOUGHT AND RELIGIOUS TOLANCE, ME TO INCLUDE A NUMBER OF TH COURY'S FOUNDING FATHERS, AND FUTURE PRESIDENTS. TODAY THE ARE SOME 4 TO 5 MILLION MASONS WORLDWIDE. BUT THE GROUP HASLSO BEEN THE SUBJECT ALL KINDS OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES, CLUDING AT IT SECRETLY CONTROLS THE GOVERNMENT, AND T NEW BOOK PLAYSO SUCH MYSTERIES. THE BOOK SETS SCENES AT TH TEMPLE: A PORAIT OF GEORGE WASHINGTN LAYING THE CORNER STONE OF THE CAPITOL IN HIS MASON GARB, THE TEMPLE OF ARCHITECTS HALL OHONOR, THE HALL OREGALIA. IN THE LIBRY, BROWN HAS ROBERT LANGDON DUNK SOME MYTHS ABOUT THE MONS, AND POINT OUT THAT HIS WAS THE FIRST LIBRARY IN SHINGTON, D.C. BROWN HIMSELF EXPLAINEWHAT ATTRACTED HIABOUT THE MASONS A 'TODAY SHOW' INTERVIEW.

>> THE MYSRY IS IN THEIR ORIGS AND IN THE FACT THAT THEY VE MANAGED TO REMAIN ETTY SECRET, THEIR RITUALS A ARCANE AND U SORT OF CATCH IPPETS OF WHAT THEIR RITUAL ARE LE AND YOU CAN REALLY SEE A LOT OF WHAT HAPPENSITHIN THE ORGANATION.

>> porter: FOR HIS PART, MORIS SAYS THAT BROWN GETS A T RIGHT, WITH THE OCCASIONAL FICTIONAL FLOURIS

>> A LOT OF THINTIATION CEREMIES, HE'S BASED UPON EXPOSES THAT HAVE BEEN PUBSHED FOR A CENTU, THE EXPOSES ARE AS MH WRONG AS THEY'RE RIGHT BUT IT'S GD FICTION YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND TT DAN BROWN S NOT AN HISTORIAN WRITING A ACCURATE HISTORY, IS A STORYTELLER TELLING A DARN RIPPING GOOTALE AND IF HE HAS TO HAVE A DBLE HEADED PHOENIX INSTE OF A DOUBLE HEADED EAGLE TO MAKTHE STORY GO BETTER, IT'S A DOUBLE HEADED PHOEN.

>> Reporter: E NEW BOOK WAS REEASED AMID GREAT SECRECY, D IN ITS FIRSTEEK HAS SOLD MORE THAN TWO MILLION COPIESTHE BIGGEST ONEEEK SALE IN PUBLISHERANDOM HOUSE'S HITORY. OUGH STILL DWARFED BY THE EV LARGER "HARRY POER" PHENOMENON. MARGARET SULTAN, A LITATURE PROFESSOR AT GEORGE WHINGTON UNIRSITY, SAYS THE OWN MARKETING MACHINE COMEST GOOD TIME FORILING PUBLISHING DUSTRY.

>> IT IS DEPENDENT ONHESE BLOCKBUSTERSO CARRY LOTS OF CONDARY TITLES. ND IT SO IT SEEMS TO ME WHEN YOU G SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE, SOMETHI OF THIS ENORMOUS IMPA ON THE CULTURE, YOU A OBVIOUSLY ENABLED TO GO ON AS A COMPANY.

>> Report: NOW IT'S NOT TYCALLY CITED AS GREAT LITERATURE, SO WHAT'S E APPEAL?

>> THEY APPEAL TO A LARG AUDIENCE THAT'S CAUSE THEY ARE FUN TO READY, ARECARY,, LURID, ALL THOSE KIND OF LOR EMOTIONS THEY AEAL TO. THE OTHER WAY OF GETTG AT IT IS HIS OKS SATISFY THAT RIOSITY. SERIOUS LITERATURTELLS YOU LIFE MYSTERIOUS BUT AT THE END OF THE NOVEL, IT'S ILL MYSTERIOUS. IT'S EVEN WORSE, OK. HERE, IT'S MYSTERIS AND THINGS GET LVED IN A VERY SATISFYING WAY.

>> Reporter: DAVID SHIMP WOD CERTAINLY AGR. A DAN BROWN FANATIC, SHIMP TRAVELED TO WASHINON TODAY FROM HIS HOME IN OKLAHOMA TY ON A "LOST SYML" PACKAGE OFFEREBY A LOCAL HOTEL.

>> THE WAYE ENDS EACH CHAPTER AND BEGINS THE NEXT. MANY STORYLINES GOING . YOU VE TO BEGIN READING NEXT, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. IT'S FANTASTIC. THAT ASPECT OLITERARY TOURISM, IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT AL, THEY AREO INCREDIBLY WELL RESEARCHED, FUN TOO TO THE STI HE TALKS ABOUT NAT SD AD PROMOTING WASHINGTON VIS VISOST SYMBOL/AIRING IN OTHER

>> Reporter: INDEED, WT "DA VINCI COD AND BROWN'S OTHER HIT, "ANGELS AND DEMONS" DIDOR LONDON, PARIS D ROME, LOCAL OFFICIS AND BUSINESSES ARE HOPI "THE LOST SYMBOL" WILL FOR WASHINGTON. AMONTHE SITES APPEARING IN THE BOOK: THE CAPITOL BLDING-- WHERE GEGE WASHINGTON LAID HAT CORNERSTONE, AND WHE MANY MORE MASIC SYMBOLS LURK SIDE. THE SMITHSONIAN INSTUTION'S FAMOUS STLE. AND THE FAR LESS-KNOWN YPTOS SCULPTURET THE CIA BUILDING ACROSS THE RIVER IN VIRGINIA AND A NORLLY IGNORED STATUE OF ONE ALBERT PIKE, SOVEREIGN RAND COMMANDER OF THE SCOTTI RITE OF MASONS. BARBARALANG, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE WASHINGTON,.C. AMBER OF COMMERCE, IF OF COURSE MORE THAN HAY TO HAVE HER CY IN THE SPOTLIGHT OF SUCH A BLOCKBUSTER.

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>> Repoer: IN THE MEANTIME, BACK AT "THE HOUSE OF THE TEPLE", THEY'RE PREPARING FO THE ONSLAUGHT. 5,000 VISITS MIGHT COME BY IN A TYPICAL YEAR. THIS YEAR, THERE EXPECTING AT AST TEN TIMES THAT NUMBER.

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