PBS NewsHour; Friday, July 15, 2022, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

♪ WILLIAM: GOOD EVENING. I'M WILLIAM BRANGHAM. JUDY WOODRUFF IS AWAY. ON "THE NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT... A MAJOR BLOW -- WEST VIRGINIA SENATOR JOE MANCHIN IMPERILS THE WHITE HOUSE AGENDA BY REFUSING TO SUPPORT ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE. THEN... BIDEN ABROAD -- THE PRESIDENT TRAVELS TO SAUDI ARABIA AND HOLDS A CONTROVERSIAL MEETING WITH CROWN PRINCE MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN. AND IT'S FRIDAY... DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART WEIGH IN ON SENATOR MANCHIN'S DECISION, THE JANUARY SIXTH HEARINGS, AND THE WIDENING DIVIDE ON ABORTION RIGHTS IN AMERICA. ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S "PBS NEWSHOUR." ♪ >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR "THE S NEWSHOUR" HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY >> PEDIATRIC SURGEON. VOLUNTEER.

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TONIGHT FOR ANY SUBSTANTIVE ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE IN AN ECONOMIC PACKAGE. IN A STATEMENT, HE SAYS CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS SHOULD ACCEPT A SLIMMED DOWN BILL CUTTING DRUG PRICES AND EXTENDING HEALTHNSURANCE SUBSIDIES. THAT'S AFTER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR JOE MANCHIN EFFECTIVELY BLOCKED A LARGER BILL THAT INCLUDED MAJOR CLIMATE PROVISIONS. MANCHIN SAID HE'D ONLY SUPPORT THE DRUG AND HEALTH CARE SECTIONS. WE'LL TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AFTER THE NEWS SUMMARY. DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES APPROVED 2 BILLS TODAY TO RESTORE ABORTION RIGHTS NATIONWIDE, BUT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO STALL IN THE SENATE. ONE BILL EXPANDS ON PROTECTIONS PROVIDED BY ROE V. WADE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED IT. THE SECOND BILL PROTECTS THE RIGHT TO TRAVEL ACRO STATE LINES FOR ABORTION SERVICES. SUPPORT FOR THE MEASURES FELL ALMOST ENTIRELY ALONG PARTY LINES. >> AS A MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER I CAN TELL YOU THAT PREBORN BABIES ARE UNQUESTIONABLY HUMAN LIVES

AND THEY ARE LIVES WORTH DEFENDING. >> RIGHT NOW AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE LESS FREEDOM THAN THEIR MOTHERS. BY PASSING THIS LEGISLATION, THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE IS STANDING ON THE SIDE OF FREEDOM FOR WOMEN AND FOR EVERY AMERICAN. WILLIAM: NEITHER BILL HAS MUCH CHANCE IN THE SENATE, WHERE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE VOTES TO BLOCK THE MEASURES. THE PRESIDENTIAL MISSION TO THE MIDDLE EAST HAS MOVED ON TO SAUDI ARABIA, AFTER MEETINGS WITH ISRAELI AND PALESTINIAN LEADERS. PRESIDENT BIDEN ARRIVED IN JEDDAH TODAY AND MET WITH CROWN PRINCE MOHAMMED BIN SALMAN, WHO GREETED HIM WITH A FIST BUMP. THE PRESIDENT HAD SHARPLY CRITICIZED THE PRINCE OVER THE MURDER OF JAMAL KHASHOGGI, A JOURNALIST BASED IN THE U.S. WE'LL GET A DETAILED REPORT ON THE DAY'S DEVELOPMENTS, LATER IN THE PROGRAM. IN IRAQ, THOUSANDS OF SHIITES DESCENDED ON A BAGHDAD SUBURB TODAY FOR MASS PRAYERS IN A SHOW OF PROTEST AGAINST A POLITICAL STALEMATE IN IRAQ. WORSHIPPERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY ANSWERED THE CALL OF MOQTADA AL-SADR. THE INFLUENTIAL SHIITE CLERIC'S FACTION WON LAST OCTOBER'S

ELECTIONS, BUT RESIGNED AFTER FAILING TO FORM A GOVERNMENT. RESIDENTS OF A CITY IN CENTRAL UKRAINE SPENT THIS DAY GRIEVING FOR 23 PEOPLE KILLED IN A RUSSIAN MISSILE STRIKE. DOZENS MORE WERE WOUNDED IN THURSDAY'S ATTACK. TODAY, POLICE TOOK DNA SAMPLES FROM THE RUBBLE TO IDENTIFY VICTIMS. SURVIVORS STRUGGLED TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE TARGETED, INCLUDING A WOMAN WHOSE FOUR-YEAR-OLD NIECE WAS KILLED. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SUCH HATRED TOWARD US. WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO ANYONE. WE NEVER ATTACKED. WE LIVED PEACEFULLY AND WORKED. WE, UKRAINIANS, ARE HARDWORKING PEOPLE. WE LOVE TO WORK. WE NEVER THREATENED ANYONE. WHY SO, WHY DID RUSSIA DO THIS TO US? I SIMPLY CANNOT EXPLAIN IT. WILLIAM: THE ATTACK WAS THE LATEST IN A SERIES OF DEADLY RUSSIAN ATTACKS ON CIVILIANS IN UKRAINE. HEALTH OFFICIALS ACROSS SOUTHERN EUROPE SOUNDED THE ALARM TODAY OVER FIERCE HEAT WAVES. SPAIN ALONE REPORTED AT LEAST 84

SUSPECTED HEAT DEATHS IN THE LAST 3 DAYS, WHERE TEMPERATURES HAVE TOPPED 100 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT. WILDFIRES IN SPAIN AND OTHER COUNTRIES ARE ALSO FEEDING OFF THE HOT, DRY, AND WINDY CONDITIONS. HUNDREDS MORE PEOPLE HAD TO EVACUATE THEIR HOMES TODAY. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, AN AUTOPSY REPORT RELEASED TODAY SHOWS POLICE IN AKRON, OHIO SHOT A BLACK MAN -- JAYLAND WALKER -- 46 TIMES DURING A CONFRONTATION LAST MONTH. OFFICERS HAVE SAID THEY TRIED TO STOP WALKER'S CAR FOR ALLEGED EQUIPMENT VIOLATIONS. THEY SAY HE FIRED A GUN, THEN JUMPED OUT OF HIS CAR AND RAN BEFORE HE WAS KILLED BY THE BARRAGE OF POLICE GUNFIRE. THE NAACP IS ASKING FOR A FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION INTO THE KILLING. NEARLY 1500 MONKEYPOX CASES HAVE NOW BEEN CONFIRMED IN THE U.S., AS FEDERAL HEALTH LEADERS SCRAMBLE TO DELIVER MORE VACCINES. THE CDC TODAY PROJECTED A CONTINUED RISE IN CASES, NOW THAT TESTING HAS RAMPED UP.

THE VIRUS SPREADS THROUGH CLOSE CONTACT AND IS NOW IN MORE THAN 60 COUNTRIES WHERE IT WAS NOT ALREADY ENDEMIC. ON WALL STREET, MAJOR STOCK AVERAGES ROSE NEARLY 2 PERCENT OR MORE ON ENCOURAGING DATA ABOUT CONSUMER EXPECTATIONS. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED 658 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 31,288. THE NASDAQ ROSE 201 POINTS. THE S&P 500 ADDED 72. AND, SPORTS LEGEND JIM THORPE WAS FORMALLY REINSTATED TODAY AS WINNER OF THE DECATHLON AND PENTATHLON IN THE 1912 OLYMPICS. HE WON HIS GOLD MEDALS AT THE STOCKHOLM GAMES, BUT WAS STRIPPED OF THEM LATER BECAUSE HE HAD PLAYED MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL FOR PAY, WHICH WAS A VIOLATION OF OLYMPIC RULES AT THE TIME. THORPE WAS THE FIRST NATIVE AMERICAN TO WIN AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDAL FOR THE UNITED STATES. HE DIED IN 1953. STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR"... WHAT SENATOR JOE MANCHIN'S OPPOSITION MEANS FOR THE FIGHT AGAINST CLIMATE CHANGE.

SRI LANKA'S FUTURE REMAINS TENUOUS AS THE PRESIDENT RESIGNS AMID WIDESPREAD PROTESTS. DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART WEIGH IN ON THE WEEK'S NEWS. PLUS MUCH MORE. >> THIS IS "THE PBS NEWSHOUR" FROM WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON, AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. WILLIAM: AS WE REPORTED, DEMOCRATIC SENATOR JOE MANCHIN HAS RULED OUT BACKING KEY FUNDING PROPOSALS FOR HIS PARTY'S ACTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE. OUR CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT LISA DESJARDINS IS HERE FOR MORE ON THIS BLOW TO THE PRESIDENT'S DOMESTIC AGENDA. JOE MANCHIN SAYS HE WILL NOT DO IT. WHAT IS THE LATEST? LISA: PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS JUST ASKED ABOUT THIS IN SAUDI ARABIA AND HE SIDESTEPPED THE QUESTION AND SAID HE WILL TRY TO DO WHAT HE CAN AS PRESIDENT. LET'S REMIND EVERYONE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST 24 HOURS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILD

ACT BETTER IDEA THAT WAS A HUGE IDEA LAST FALL, IT KEPT GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER BECAUSE OF SENATOR JOE MANCHIN LARGELY. LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ADDING HEALTH CARE AND PRIVATE -- AND CLIMATE PROVISIONS. LET'S LOOK AT WHAT IS IN IT, BASED ON SENATOR JOE MANCHIN. STILL IN THE PACKAGE IS MEDICARE NEGOTIATION OF DRUG PRICES, ALSO JOE MANCHIN STILL SUPPORTS THE SUBSIDIES THAT WILL RUN OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR. HE WILL EXTEND THOSE. BUT IN THE LAST DAY HE SAID HE WILL NOT SUPPORT CLIMATE CHANGE PROVISIONS AND INCREASING TAXES ON THE WEALTHY. NOTICE THAT SAYS FOR NOW. HE SAYS HE WANTS TO REVIEW WHERE THE ECONOMY IS IN AUGUST MORE OR LESS, AND PERHAPS THEN HE WOULD THINK ABOUT THIS AGAIN. WILLIAM: ON THOSE CLIMATE CHANGE PROVISIONS SPECIFICALLY, AS YOU MENTION, THIS IS NOT MASSIVE BUILD BACK BETTER, BUT THE THINGS HE SAID NO TO WERE

SUBSTANTIVE, SOME OF THE MOST MAJOR STEPS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MIGHT HAVE TAKEN ON CLIMATE CHANGE. WHAT GOT DROPPED OUT? LISA: IN THE FALL, WE LOST THE PORTION, THE DEMOCRATS LOST THE PORTION OF HAVING A RENEWABLE STANDARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WHAT HAS BEEN DROPPED MORE RECENTLY IS JUST AS LARGE. LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT WAS ON THE TABLE TO DAYS AGO NO LONGER IS. CLIMATE CHANGE PROVISIONS, TAX INCENTIVES, $300 BILLION, THE LARGEST IN U.S. HISTORY FOR THIS ISSUE. IT INCLUDES INCENTIVES FOR THINGS LIKE MANUFACTURING, HOW THEY PUMP OUT EMISSIONS FROM PLANTS, HOMES AND TRAVEL, ALMOST ALL PARTS OF AMERICAN LIFE COULD HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. ONE ESTIMATE SAID THIS COULD HAVE CUT POWER EMISSIONS BY 74%. THIS IS NOT JUST WHAT IS IN THE AIR BUT ALSO BUSINESS. THE BUILDING OF SOLAR INDUSTRY CAPACITY IN THIS COUNTRY, THE BUILDING OF WIND, THOSE IDEAS. ALSO JOBS INVOLVED AS WELL. WILLIAM: THE TIMING FOR THIS COULD NOT BE WORSE.

WE JUST EXPERIENCED THE HOTTEST JUNE IN RECORDED HISTORY. THE U.N. RECENTLY SAID THE WORLD'S NATIONS HAVE UTTERLY FAILED TO LIVE UP TO THE COMMITMENTS THEY MADE TO CUT EMISSIONS. AND NOW THIS. LISA: WE TALKED TO AN EXPERT ABOUT THIS TODAY, WHERE ARE WE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR WHERE THE WORLD AND U.S. IS. WE TALKED WITH LEAH STOKES WHO HAS BEEN STUDYING THIS, AND SHE HAD A STRONG REACTION. LEAH: THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS ALREADY HAVING DEVASTATING IMPACTS ON OUR COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES. THERE IS A DROUGHT IN THE WESTERN UNITED STATES THAT IS THE WORST IN A MILLENNIUM. WE'RE TALKING 1200 YEARS. THAT'S HOW TERRIBLE THE DROUGHT IS RIGHT NOW. WE ARE SEEING HEAT WAVES, SMASH RECORDS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY YEAR AFTER YEAR. AND THOSE HEAT WAVES ARE KILLING PEOPLE. WE ARE SEEING HURRICANES, FLOODING, YOU NAME IT. CLIMATE CHANGE IS ON OUR DOORSTEP AND THE IMPACTS FOR AMERICANS IS JUST DEVASTATING. LISA: REMEMBER, PRESIDENT BIDEN'S ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO CUT

AMERICA'S CARBON EMISSIONS IN HALF BY 2050 AND THAT IS A BIG GOAL AND SOMETHING THAT MAY BUDDY -- THAT MIGHT NOT BE ENOUGH. BUT NOW THIS IS ALSO TABLE. WILLIAM: WHAT DID SENATOR MANCHIN SAY WAS THE REASON HE BACKED AWAY FROM THIS? LISA: ONE MAN WHO CAN STOP THIS BECAUSE OF THE 50-50 SENATE, HE SAID BECAUSE OF INFLATION. HE SPOKE ON WEST VIRGINIA RADIO TODAY AND THIS IS WHAT HE SAID. >> INFLATION IS ABSOLUTELY KILLING MANY PEOPLE. THEY CANNOT BUY GAS, THEY HAVE A HARD TIME BUYING GROCERIES. EVERYTHING THEY CONSUME IN THEIR DAILY LIVES IS A HARDSHIP. CAN'T WE WAIT TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION BASICALLY ON TAXES OF ANY KIND AND ALSO ON ENERGY AND CLIMATE BECAUSE IT TAKES THE TAXES TO PAY FOR THE INVESTMENT IN THE CLEAN TECHNOLOGY THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF. LISA: WE HAVE BEEN REPORTING HISTORIC INFLATION FIGURES THIS WEEK.

WILLIAM: CRITICS OF SENATOR MANCHIN SAY HE HAS NEVER WANTED TO DO ANYTHING THAT COULD HURT THE COAL INDUSTRY BELOVED IN HIS STATE. THAT HE HIMSELF DERIVES A LOT OF HIS OWN PERSONAL FORTUNE FROM THE COAL INDUSTRY. THEY ALSO POINT OUT HE GETS I THINK ONE OF THE LARGEST AMOUNTS OF DONATIONS FROM THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY. AND THUS ALL OF THESE THINGS MAKE IT THAT HE HAS AN INTENSE CONFLICT OF INTEREST. TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF THIS LEGISLATION, WHAT DOES HE SAY TO THAT? LISA: HE HAS ADMITTED HE HAS SIGNIFICANT INCOME FROM HIS FAMILY BUSINESS INVESTED IN COAL. HOWEVER, HE HAS SAID ANY BUSINESS IN WEST VIRGINIA HAS JUST AS MUCH ACCESS TO HIM AS THE COAL COMPANIES AND HE HAS SAID HIS CONCERN OVERALL IS FISCAL SPENDING AND INFLATION AND THE ECONOMY WRIT LARGE. WILLIAM: IT IS OFF THE TABLE FOR NOW. THERE IS STILL COME AGAIN, AS WE HEAR FROM HIM, A HAND IT MIGHT COME BACK AGAIN. WHAT IS NEXT? LISA: SOME STILL HOPE HE WILL GET ON BOARD IN SEPTEMBER BUT THERE IS A CALENDAR ISSUE. I WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT

BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT. HERE IS THE SENATE TIGHT CALENDAR. THREE WEEKS UNTIL THEY ARE PLANNING TO LEAVE FOR AUGUST RECESS. IN AUGUST, THAT IS THE SAME MONTH BY WHICH INSURANCE COMPANIES REALLY NEED TO KNOW, WILL THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT SUBSIDY PROGRAM THE EXPANDED OR NOT? THAT'S WHEN THEY ARE DETERMINING RATES NEXT YEAR. THAT IS A BIG DEADLINE FOR DEMOCRATS, THEY WANT TO FIGURE IT OUT BY THEN. THESE THINGS ARE TIED TOGETHER BECAUSE DEMOCRATS GET ONE SHOT AT A RECONCILIATION BILL AND LOOK AT THAT. THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 30. WHETHER THERE IS A BILL THAT IS ONLY THESE HEALTH CARE PROVISIONS OR IF SOME HAIR -- SOMEHOW THERE IS CLIMATE IN IT, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY SEPTEMBER 30, AND THE CATS ALSO HAVE THIS AUGUST DEADLINE. ALL OF THIS IS DIFFICULT. ENVIRONMENTALISTS ARE CONCERNED, SOME THINK THERE IS HOPE, BUT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS DO NOT TRUST JOE MANCHIN ANYMORE. THEY SAY HE IS NOT SAYING THE WORDS KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HE IS TELLING US

KNOW. -- NO. WILLIAM: LISA DESJARDINS, THANK YOU FOR GETTING US THROUGH THIS. PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS LANDED IN SAUDI ARABIA AND MET WITH KING SALMAN AND CROWN PRINCE MUHAMMAD BIN SALMAN. IT'S DELICATE DIPLOMACY FOR AN ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS PLEDGED TO PUT HUMAN RIGHTS FIRST, BUT IS ALSO DEALING WITH THE REALITIES OF SAUDI INFLUENCE IN HE REGION, AND OVER OIL. NICK SCHIFRIN BEGINS OUR COVERAGE. NICK: THE OLDEST AMERICAN PRESIDENT AND THE MIDDLE EAST'S YOUNGEST LEADER AGAIN WITH A FIST BUNK. SAUDI ARABIA'S DE FACTO LEADER ACROSS FROM PRESIDENT BUDDY AND HIS ADVISORS. IT ENDED WITH A REMINDER OF THE TWO COUNTRY'S TENSION. >> JAMAAL KHASHOGGI, WILL YOU APOLOGIZE? NICK: THERE WERE A SERIES OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. OPENING SAUDI AIRSPACE TO

CIVILIAN AIRCRAFT TO AND FROM ISRAEL, REMOVING PEACEKEEPERS FROM AN ISLAND, WHICH COULD HELP NORMALIZATION. AND A SAUDI COMMITMENT TO EXTEND THE TRUCE IN HUMAN -- YEMEN. PRISON BIDEN SAID THE MEETING WENT WELL BUT HE ALSO BROUGHT UP THE MURDER OF JAMAAL KHASHOGGI. >> HE SAID HE IS NOT PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR AND I INDICATED HE PROBABLY WAS. NICK: HE WAS GREETED BY A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, A FAR CRY FROM THE OVER-THE-TOP GREETING FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 2015. TRUMP'S LEGACY ALSO PLAYED OUT THIS MORNING WHEN PRESIDENT BIDEN VISITED THE PALESTINIAN PRESIDENT, THERE WAS A FORMAL RED CARPET WELCOME BUT THE PRESIDENT CRITICIZED PRESIDENT BIDEN FOR NOT REVERSING TRUMP'S POLICIES. >> REOPENING THE U.S. CONSULATE JERUSALEM, REMOVING US FROM THE TERRORIST LIST, AND REOPENING THE OFFICE IN WASHINGTON.

NICK: PRESIDENT BIDEN PLEDGED $100 MILLION FOR PALESTINIAN HOSPITALS IN EAST JERUSALEM AND $200 MILLION FOR THE YOU IN AGENCY THAT SUPPORTS PALESTINIAN REFUGEES HE TRIED TO SUE -- SHOW IT WITH THE BECAME UP EMPTY ON PEACE. >> EVEN IF THE GROUND IS NOT RIGHT TO RESTART NEGOTIATIONS, MY ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT GIVE UP ON TRYING TO BRING THE PALESTINIANS AND ISRAELIS AND BOTH SIDES CLOSER TOGETHER. NICK: TODAY'S FOCUS WAS ON SAUDI ARABIA AND THE MAN WHO WILL BE KING. SAUDI WOMEN HAVE MORE RIGHTS, THERE IS MORE ENTERTAINMENT AND THEY ARE CURBING EXTREMIS. THE U.S. ALSO BELIEVE HE IS THE SOURCE OF A CRACKDOWN ON CRITICS AND BELIEVE HE APPROVED THE MURDER OF JAMAAL KHASHOGGI. >> YOU BELIEVE SAUDI ARABIA CAN BE A PARTNER TO THE U.S.? >> IS NOT POSSIBLE TO HAVE SUCH

A PARTNER. NICK: I SPOKE TO THIS ACTIVIST LAST WEEK. >> I SEE HIM NOT AS A REFORMER BUT A DEFORMEDE -- DEFORMER WHO KILLED JAMAAL KHASHOGGI. NICK: HIS FATHER IS A PROMINENT MUSLIM SCHOLAR WHO CALLED FOR CHANGE IN THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT. HE HAS BEEN HELD IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT AND FACES THE DEATH PENALTY. >> MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE MAIN AND PROMINENT NAMES THAT ACTUALLY THEORIZED ABOUT DEMOCRACY IN ISLAM. THIS IS THE KIND OF ISLAM MBS DOES NOT WANT ALTHOUGH HE CLAIMS HE IS MODERNIZING. NICK: ANOTHER SAUDI DETAINED, A PREACHER WHO CRITICIZED KING SALMAN FOR GIVING HIS SON TOO MUCH POWER. HE HAS BEEN DETAINED SINCE 2016. HIS SON SPENT YEARS CAMPAIGNING FOR HIS RELEASE AND WAS JAILED TWO WEEKS AGO. HE RECORDED THIS VIDEO BEFORE

HIS ARREST. >> DISAPPEARANCE IS NOT A SOLUTION AND IT IS NOT JUST TO DISAPPEAR PERSON FROM HIS FAMILY FOR MORE THAN FIVE YEARS. >> DEMOCRACY BASICALLY. THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED. NOTHING STRANGE OR WEIRD, NOTHING RADICAL. IT IS SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE SAUDI PEOPLE DESERVE LIKE ANY OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET. DEMOCRACY, BASIC LIBERTIES, A MULTIPARTY SYSTEM, SEPARATION OF POWER, AND INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THIS. WILLIAM: NICK SCHIFRIN JOINS ME NOW FROM SAUDI ARABIA. WE JUST HEARD HOW PRESIDENT BIDEN CHARACTERIZED HIS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CROWN PRINCE ABOUT THE MURDER OF JAMAAL KHASHOGGI. WHAT HAVE OFFICIALS BEEN TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS? NICK: A FEW MINUTES AGO I INTERVIEWED THE MINISTER OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS, EFFECTIVELY THE DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER AND A LONGTIME LEADER

IN SAUDI CIRCLES. HE SAID THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. THAT IS NOT WHAT HE SAW AT OR HEAR HE SAID PRESIDENT BIDEN DID BRING UP JAMAAL KHASHOGGI BUT IT WAS NOT IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. IT WAS CERTAINLY NOT AS CONFRONTATIONAL AS PRESIDENT BIDEN CLAIMED. THE TWO SIDES CLEARLY ARE STILL DISAGREEING OVER HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE BOTTOM LINE FROM THE SAUDI PERSPECTIVE IS YES, PRESIDENT BIDEN DID PUSH MBS ON THIS AND MBS SAID IT WAS NOT ME AND WE'VE TAKEN STEPS TO TACKLE THE PEOPLE WHO MBS CLAIMS ACTED IN A ROGUE FASHION. THE U.S. BELIEVES THAT MBS APPROVED THE MURDER. WILLIAM: ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IN SAUDI ARABIA IS TO PRESSURE THE KINGDOM TO RAMP UP OIL PRODUCTION, A SENSIBLY TO BRING DOWN GAS PRICES ELSEWHERE AND IN THE U.S. HAVE SAUDI OFFICIALS SAID WHETHER THEY WILL FOLLOW THROUGH

ON THAT? NICK: I THINK U.S. OFFICIALS WOULD NOT USE THE WORD PRESSURE, THEY WOULD USE THE WORD DISCUSSION ABOUT ENERGY SECURITY. BUT PART OF THAT, LET'S BE HONEST, IS HOPING THAT SAUDI ARABIA OPENS THE SPIGOTS SO GAS PRICES IN THE STATES CAN COME DOWN. PRESIDENT BIDEN TONIGHT SAID HE BELIEVED SAUDI OFFICIALS WERE ON THE SAME PAGE AS HIM MOM BUT AGAIN, I ASKED -- PAGE AS HIM, BUT AGAIN, I ASKED IF SAUDI ARABIA INTENDED TO INCREASE PRODUCTION IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AND HE WOULD NOT SAY THEY PLAN TO DO THAT. HE SAID SAUDI ARABIA AND OPEC HAVE INCREASED PRODUCTION THE LAST FEW MONTHS ALREADY. AN INDEPENDENT ANALYST NOTED THAT EVEN IF THERE WERE SOME INCREASE, IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY LEAD TO EASING OF PRICES INSIDE THE UNITED STATES. AGAIN, PRESIDENT BIDEN QUITE CONFIDENT ABOUT WHAT SAUDI OFFICIALS ARE SAYING, BUT SAUDI OFFICIALS ARE NOT SO SURE. WILLIAM: THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A LOT OF TALK AS YOU'VE BEEN REPORTING ON THIS TRIP, ABOUT

THE RELATIONS REGIONALLY WITH ISRAEL. ARE THE SAUDIS ON BOARD WITH THAT MOVE? NICK: IT IS SUCH AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE WE SEE EGYPT, JORDAN, BAHRAIN, UAE, THE COUNTRIES THAT HAVE NORMALIZED RELATIONSHIPS POLITICALLY WITH ISRAEL BEGINNING TO SHARE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE. WHAT THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO IS TO TALK ABOUT A KIND OF REGIONAL AIR DEFENSE ARCHITECTURE AGAINST IRAN, IRANIAN MISSILES AND DRONES. SAUDI OFFICIALS ARE NOT QUITE THERE YET. I ASKED ABOUT THAT, HE SAID WE NEED TO SEE PROGRESS IN ISRAEL AND SEE PEACE BETWEEN THE ISRAELIS AND PALESTINIANS BEFORE SAUDI ARABIA CAN TRULY NORMALIZE WITH ISRAEL. THAT INCLUDES BEHIND-THE-SCENES MILITARY INTELLIGENCE COOPERATION THAT U.S. OFFICIALS TELL ME IS SIMPLY NOT HAPPENING, IN PART BECAUSE IT, THEY SAY, KING SALMAN IS STILL ALIVE AND MBS IS NOT QUITE IN CHARGE YET. AS LONG AS KING SOMEONE IS

ALIVE, THE PEOPLE I SPEAK TO INSIDE THE U. GOVERNMENT BELIEVE THERE WILL BE NO NORMALIZATION AND NO REAL EFFORT TO SHARE MILITARY OR INTELLIGENCE BETWEEN SAUDI ARABIA AND ISRAEL AS THE ISRAELIS WOULD LIKE. WILLIAM: NICK SCHIFRIN FROM SAUDI ARABIA, THANK YOU. NICK: THANKS. WILLIAM: FOR MORE ON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S TRIP TO SAUDI ARABIA WE TURN TO RANDA SLIM. SHE'S WITH THE MIDDLE EAST INSTITUTE, A WASHINGTON, D.C.-BASED THINK TANK. GREAT TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE NEWSHOUR. YOU WELL REMEMBER CANDIDATE JOE BIDEN WAS VERY CRITICAL OF THE CROWN PRINCE, CALLING THE KINGDOM A PARIAH STATE FOR THEIR CRACKDOWN ON DISSENT AND THE MURDER OF JAMAAL KHASHOGGI. NOW WE SEE PRESIDENT BIDEN AS PRESIDENT FIST BUMPING MBS. WHAT YOU MAKE OF THAT DICHOTOMY? RANDA: I THINK IT IS PRESIDENT BIDEN MEETING THE REALITY. IT WAS WORDS WERE MAYBE EASY TO

MAKE DURING AN ELECTION CAMPAIGN, BUT DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN UKRAINE, AND WHAT IT LED IN TERMS OF INCREASE IN ENERGY PRICES, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS FACING REALITY AT HOME FIVE MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION OF HIGH INFLATION, HIGH GAS PRICES, AND HE IS HOPING OR BETTING ON THE SAUDIS AND IRAQIS -- EMIRAT ES TO BRING DOWN GAS PRICES. I THINK THAT IS SOMEHOW, IT IS A BET OR HOPE THAT IS NOT TOTALLY TRUE, PARTLY BECAUSE ENERGY PRICES ARE DETERMINED NOT ONLY BY A PRESIDENT ASKING THE SAUDIS TO PUMP MORE OIL BUT ALSO BY SAUDIS, BY RUSSIANS, BY EMIRATES

MAKING DECISIONS BY TAPPING THEIR SUPPLIES BASED ON WHAT WORKS FOR THEM AND THEIR ECONOMIC AND STRATEGIC INTERESTS. IT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY HAVE THE SPARE CAPACITY TO INFLUENCE THE PRICE OF OIL ON THE MARKET, AS NICK SAID. BUT ALSO I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THE SAUDIS AND EMIRIATIS WILL BE WILLING TO GO WITH THE ASK OF THE PRESIDENT IF IT IS COUNTER TO THEIR OWN ECONOMIC AND STRATEGIC INTERESTS. WILLIAM: DO YOU THINK THE CRITICISM THE PRESIDENT RECEIVED IN ADVANCE OF THIS TRIP IS A LOT OF HOT AIR? DO YOU THINK THERE IS A SUBSTANTIVE CRITIQUE TO BE MADE THAT THE PRESIDENT MAYBE OUGHT NOT TO HAVE DONE A FORMAL PRESIDENTIAL VISIT TO THE KINGDOM?

RANDA: I THINK HE OUGHT NOT HAVE MADE THE REMARKS HE MADE DURING THE ELECTION CAMPAIGN BY PROMISING TO PUT, TO MAKE SAUDI ARABIA A PARIAH STATE ON THE GLOBAL SCENE. BECAUSE HE MUST KNOW AS A CANDIDATE, AS A FORMER VP, THAT SAUDI ARABIA IS AN IMPORTANT COUNTRY IN THE REGION. THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WE NEED TO HAVE THEIR COOPERATION ON, WHETHER IT IS ENERGY OR REGIONAL SECURITY. LOOK, THE CRITICISM IS FAIR. PARTLY BECAUSE AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE MISMATCH BETWEEN WORDS AND ACTION. THAT IS A LONG-STANDING CRITICISM OF AMERICAN FOREIGN-POLICY, ESPECIALLY IN THE ARAB REGION BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD, THAT WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, INTERESTS ALWAYS TRUMP OUR VALUES. WILLIAM: PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS ALSO MADE A GOOD DEAL ABOUT TRYING TO NORMALIZE AND

HARMONIZE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT ARAB STATES AND ISRAEL. HOW DO YOU JUDGE IT THUS FAR THE SUCCESS ON THAT FRONT? RANDA: I WOULD SAY THAT WHETHER IT IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND W THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATI, I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO RIDE A BANDWAGON THAT WAS ALREADY IN MOTION. EVEN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WHICH --, I THINK THE COUNTRIES OF THE REGION, BE IT UAE, ISRAEL, MOROCCO, EVEN SAUDI ARABIA, HAVE THEIR OWN INTERESTS IN HAVING RELATIONS WITH ISRAEL THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY DICTATED BY THE UNITED STATES. IT IS PARTLY AGAINST IRAN BUT ALSO PARTLY ABOUT SURVIVAL OF THEIR REGIME. IT IS PARTLY ABOUT SECURING TECHNOLOGICAL COOPERATION AND KNOW-HOW, AND ECONOMIC KNOW-HOW FROM ISRAEL.

THESE INTERESTS FROM THESE COUNTRIES ARE THE ONES DICTATING THEIR MOVES FOR THESE ACCORDS, AND THAT WE HAVE CONTINUED TO CONTROL THE TEMPO OF THIS HARMONIZATION BETWEEN ISRAEL AND ARAB COUNTRIES. WILLIAM: JUST BRIEFLY, PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS ALSO PROMISED HE WILL NEVER ALLOW IRAN TO DEVELOP A NUCLEAR WEAPON. IS IT YOUR SENSE OF THE OTHER ARAB NATIONS SEE THE THREAT OF A NUCLEAR ARMED IRAN AS SEVERELY AS THE PRESIDENT AND AS ISRAEL DOES? RANDA: I DON'T THINK SO. GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2015 AND BEFORE, THERE WAS ALWAYS A DISAGREEMENT OR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES WHEN IT COMES TO IRAN. THE U.S. AND ISRAEL DENYING IRAN A NUCLEAR WEAPON WAS THE FIRST PRIORITY, WHERE AS FOR THE ARAB

COUNTRIES THE FIRST PRIORITY WAS THE BALLISTIC MISSILES PROGRAM OF IRAN, AND THE PROXY NETWORK IN THE ARAB REGION. THEY ALWAYS FELT AND THAT --BET THAT U.S. AND ISRAEL WILL ONE DAY TAKE CARE OF THE IRANIAN NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND THAT PARTLY EXPLAIN WHY IT WASN'T A PRIORITY. THEY FELT THEY WERE ABANDONED BY AMERICA, ESPECIALLY DURING THE NEGOTIATION IN 2015 WITH IRAN, BECAUSE IT DID NOT STRESS ENOUGH THEIR CONCERNS IN THE DEAL, THE BALLISTIC MISSILES PROGRAM OF IRAN AND IRAN'S PROXY NETWORK IN THE REGION. WILLIAM: RANDA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. ♪ THE NATION OF SRI LANKA HAS SLIPPED INTO CHAOS AFTER MONTHS PROTESTS REACHED A TIPPING POINT THIS WEEK WHEN PROTESTERS

TOOK OVER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS AND FORCED THE PRESIDENT TO RESIGN. THE SOUTH ASIAN ISLAND NATION OF 22 MILLION PEOPLE IS FACING ONE OF THE WORST ECONOMIC CRISES SINCE IT GAINED INDEPENDENCE IN 1948. THE PRIME MINISTER HAS BEEN SWORN IN AS THE ACTING PRESIDENT, AND A NEW INTERIM GOVERNMENT WILL BE ELECTED BY PARLIAMENT. BUT FOR ORDINARY SRI LANKANS, THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES. STEPHANIE SY REPORTS. STEPHANIE: IN THE ECONOMICALLY CRIPPLED ISLAND NATION OF SRI LANKA, A MOMENT OF CELEBRATION AFTER WEEKS OF DESPAIR. PROTESTERS CAMPED OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS FOR MORE THAN TWO MONTHS NOW RETREATING, THEIR MAIN DEMAND HAVING BEEN MET. THE PRESIDENT HAS RESIGNED. >> I FEEL LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST FEW DAYS HAS AN EFFECT. STEPHANIE: FOR MONTHS, SRI LANKANS HAVE BEEN WAITING IN MILES LONG LINES TO GET BASIC GOODS. AT LEAST 16 PEOPLE HAVE

REPORTEDLY DIED WHILE STANDING IN THOSE LINES. >> FORMULA, DIAPERS, EVERYTHING, PRICES HAVE SKYROCKETED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR NORMAL, BASIC HUMANS OF SRI LANKA TO GET THEIR BASIC NEEDS. STEPHANIE: PROTESTERS BLAME THOSE WHO HAVE WIELDED POWER IN SRI LANKA FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES FOR THE COUNTRY'S COLLAPSE, ACCUSING THEM OF CORRUPTION AND GROSS MISMANAGEMENT. LAST WEEK, THEY TOOK A DIP IN THE PRESIDENT'S LUXURIOUS POOL. WHILE 57-YEAR-OLD DAISY SAID SHE STRUGGLED FOR MONTHS TO FIND COOKING GAS. >> IT IS VY DIFFICULT. EVEN THOUGH I AM A HEART PATIENT, I AM WORKING WITH THE SMOKE. STEPHANIE: LIKE 70% OF SRI LANKANS, HER FAMILY HAS HAD TO CUT DOWN ON FOOD. >> WE ARE FED UP WITH THESE THINGS. WE GET UP EARLY IN THE MORNING AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT. SOMETIMES WE COOK USING THINGS PLANTED IN OUR HOME GARDEN. STEPHANIE: ON THE STREETS OF COLOMBO, A STRING OF VEHICLES

PARKED. GAS STATIONS DESERTED. THERE IS NO FUEL. A TRUCK DRIVER HAS BEEN WAITING TO GET GASOLINE FOR A WEEK. HE EATS AND SLEEPS HERE. >> WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE A BATH OR GO TO THE WASHROOM. THERE IS NO DATE OR DAY WHEN THE PETROL WILL COME. WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GO TO OUR JOBS, THERE IS NO WAY TO GET AN INCOME. STEPHANIE: SRI LANKA OWES OVER $51 BILLION TO FOREIGN CREDITORS AND HAS RUN OUT OF CASH RESERVES. >> WE DON'T HAVE MONEY TO IMPORT BASIC NECESSITIES FOR DAILY LIFE LIKE FOOD, LIKE GAS, LIKE MEDICINE, LIKE FOOD. STEPHANIE: THE FOUNDER OF THE CENTER FOR POLICY ALTERNATIVES SRI LANKA BLAMES THE GOVERNMENT FOR FAILING ITS PEOPLE. >> THIS HAS BROUGHT THE COUNTRY TO ITS KNEES, THE COMBINATION OF GROSS MISMANAGEMENT AND CALLOUS DISREGARD FOR PUBLIC SENTIMENTS. AND NOW, THERE IS NO YEARNING OR

LIKING OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE HEROES OF YESTERDAY. STEPHANIE: THE FAMILY'S GRIP ON SRI LANKA BEGAN IN 2005, WHEN AN ELDER BROTHER WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT. SEVERAL YEARS LATER, THE TWO BROTHERS ORCHESTRATED A BRUTAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST OTHERS, ENDING A CIVIL WAR. THEY WERE ACCUSED OF WAR CRIMES BUT REMAINED IN POWER. WHILE CITIZENS MAY HAVE SUCCEEDED IN OUSTING THEM, THE LARGER PROBLEMS SRI LANKANS FACE HAVE NO EASY SOLUTIONS. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR I AM STEPHANIE SY. ♪ WILLIAM: THE COLLAPSE OF THE DEMOCRATIC CLIMATE AGENDA, THE CONNECTION BETWEEN TRUMP AND RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM AND THE DEBATE OVER ABORTION AFTER THE FALL OF ROE. IT ALL CONTRIBUTED TO ANOTHER BUSY WEEK IN WASHINGTON.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE ANALYSIS OF BROOKS AND CAPEHART. THAT'S "NEW YORK TIMES" COLUMNIST DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART, ASSOCIATE EDITOR FOR "THE WASHINGTON POST." GENTLEMEN, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. JONATHAN, JOE MANCHIN TODAY SAID I AM DONE WITH ALL OF THIS BACK-AND-FORTH AND OFFER YOU A TICKET TO THE DANCE AND THEY NEVER SHOW UP. THE CLIMATE AGENDA THE PRESIDENT HAD HOPED WOULD IN SOME WAY GET ACROSS THE FINISH LINE HAS FALLEN APART. IS IT YOUR SENSE U.S. IS JUST NOT GOING TO ACT ON -- YOUR SENSE THAT THE U.S. IS JUST NOT GOING TO ACT ON CLIMATE CHANGE FOR A FEW YEARS? JONATHAN: THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES. AS LONG AS THERE IS A 50-50 SPLIT IN THE SENATE AND JOE MANCHIN IS THE DECIDING VOTE FOR EVERYTHING, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES. THERE IS LATEBREAKING NEWS THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID, HAS TAKEN THE DEAL, SAID WE WILL DO THE NARROW THING, GET IT TO MY DESK BEFORE AUGUST RECESS, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CANNOT WAIT.

CLIMATE WILL HAVE TO WAIT. IN THE LONG RUN, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYTHING ON CLIMATE, ANYTHING ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM OR VOTING RIGHTS, ANYTHING TO CODIFY ROE, ANY OF THE OTHER THINGS, AND ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN, GUN SAFETY, THINGS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT, THE ONLY WAY THOSE WILL HAPPEN IS IF DEMOCRATS GET TWO MORE SEATS IN THE SENATE. THAT'S WHY THE PRESIDENT KEEPS HAMMERING AWAY, GIVE ME TWO MORE SEATS. IT IS NOT JUST A CODIFY ROE, IT IS TO GET HIS AGENDA THROUGH. WILLIAM: DAVID, AS JONATHAN IS SAYING, A 50-50 SENATE, AND JOE MANCHIN SAYS INFLATION IS REALLY TERRIBLE AND I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THERE WERE EVEN SOME PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS THIS WEEK THING INFLATION REALLY IS TERRIBLE. IN A WAY, MAKING JOE MANCHIN'S CASE FOR HIM. BUT STILL TO THIS POINT, IT DOES MEAN THAT THE U.S. ONE OF THE MAJOR ACTORS ON THE CLIMATE FRONT, IS STEPPING BACK. DAVID: I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE IN A

MAJOR AMERICAN TV STUDIO AND PRAISE JOE MANCHIN. [LAUGHTER] I LOOKED AT STORIES FROM A YEAR AGO AND JOE MANCHIN WAS WARNING ABOUT INFLATION BACK THEN AND THERE WERE ALL OF THESE STORIES WILLIAM: ALONE N THE WILDERNESS. DAVID: HE TURNED OUT TO BE 100% RIGHT, AND A LOT OF US TURNED OUT TO BE WRONG. YOU COULD ARGUE THAT JOE MANCHIN IS STOPPING THE BIG BUILD BACK BETTER BILL, TRILLIONSF DOLLARS, IF WE HAD PORT THAT ADDITIONAL TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO THE ECONOMY, INFLATION WILL BE TRULY TERRIBLE. YOU COULD ARGUE JOE MANCHIN SAVED THE COUNTRY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY A VERY BAD DISASTER. I THINK THERE IS SOME CREDIT FOR BEING RIGHT ABOUT THAT AND BEING SUPERINTENDED TO INFLATION FEARS, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. THE ONE PART I DISAGREE WITH HIM IS JUST BECAUSE THERE IS INFLATION DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN HAVE GOVERNMENT POLICY. IF YOU TAKE SOME MONEY OUT OF THE ECONOMY THROUGH TAXES AND THEN PAY FOR CLIMATE CHANGE

LEGISLATION, IS NOT NECESSARILY INFLATIONARY. BUT FOR SOME OF THE PEOPLE NOW BASHING HIM, THEY SHOULD BE THANKING HIM FOR SOME OF THE THINGS HE DID EARLIER TO WARN ABOUT THIS. WILLIAM: ONLY ON THE NEWSHOUR COULD WE GET THAT. [LAUGHTER] JONATHAN, THE JANUARY 6 HEARING THIS WEEK AGAIN MADE A FAIRLY COMPELLING CASE TRYING TO TIE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S RHETORIC TOWARD THOSE PEOPLE WHO STORMED THE CAPITAL AND ENGAGED IN THAT HER INTO HIS HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT WITH POLICE OFFICERS, DO YOU THINK THEY HAVE MADE A GOOD CASE THAT TRUMPS LANGUAGE, HIS RHETORIC STIRRED THAT HORRIBLE DAY? JONATHAN: YES, THEY DID. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE JANUARY 6 SELECT COMMITTEE IS A COURT, BUT IT IS PLAYING TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. BETWEEN THE DOCUMENTS AND THE TWEETS AND EVERYTHING THEY SHOWED TO MAKE THEIR CASE, PLUS THE TWO WITNESSES, ONE WHO SAID WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID BROUGHT

ME TO WASHINGTON, AND A FORMER SPOKESPERSON OF EITHER THE OATH KEEPERS OR PROBABLY WHO SAID YEAH, WE WERE THERE -- WILLIAM: WE HEARD THE CALL. JONATHAN: WE HEARD THE CALL AND WERE PART OF OPERATIONALIZING THAT. I DON'T THINK IT IS A MISTRY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. -- A MYSTERY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE ISSUE IS WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL LIABILITY. WILL THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT MAKE THAT LEAP? WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COURT OF LAW, THE LEVEL OF PROOF YOU HAVE TO HAVE IS INCREDIBLY HIGH, NECESSARILY. THAT IS GETTING WAY DOWN THE ROAD, BUT I THINK AFTER 7, 8 HEARINGS THE SELECT COMMITTEE HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF SHOWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT WAS DONE ON GENERATE SIX, -- JANUARY 6, HOW HORRIBLE IT WAS,

AND BETWEEN THE HEARING TUESDAY AND NEXT THURSDAY, WE WILL SEE WITH FRIGHTENING CLARITY HOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN. WILLIAM: WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? DID THEY MAKE THAT CASE? DAVID: IT HAS BEEN UNEXPECTED FOR ME. WILLIAM: WHY? DAVID: I DID NOT THINK THEY HAD ORGANIZED IT, I DID NOT THINK TRUMP HAD ORGANIZED JANUARY 6, I THOUGHT HE WAS BEING HIS SHAMBOLIC SELF. THERE WAS A LOT MORE PLANNING. WE HEARD FROM THE OVERSTOCK CEO THEY HAD ARRANGED HWAS SPONTANEOUSLY GOING TO CALL FOR THEM -- BUT IT WAS PREARRANGED. AND AS JONATHAN SAID, A LOT OF THE GUYS WERE SO CAREFULLY PAYING ATTENTION TO TRUMP. CAREFULLY SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT HE TELLS US TO DO AND FULLY EXPECTED HE WOULD MEET THEM AT THE CAPITOL. THAT IS A PROGRESSION AND WHAT WE HEARD TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT HIM WANTING TO TAKE UP THE MAGNETOMETERS SO THEY COULD HAVE

ACCESS. THAT IS A STRONG EVIDENTIARY CHAIN. TO ME, THE ACCUMULATION IS POWERFUL. IT'S INTERESTING HOW IT IS AFFECTED TRUMP, THE WORD IS HE IS MOVING UP HOW -- WHEN HE WILL ANNOUNCE HIS CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT, TO MAKE THE INDICTMENT HARDER. WILLIAM: YOU THINK HE DEFINITELY IS GOING TO RUN? DAVID: HE SEEMS TO HAVE TOLD PEOPLE HE IS GOING TO RUN. WE WILL SEE WHEN HE WALKS DOWN THE ESCALATOR OR WHATEVER IT IS. I THINK HE'S GOING TO RUN AND ANNOUNCE PRETTY SOON IN PART TO MAKE THE INDICTMENT HARDER AND IN PART TO MAKE OTHER CHALLENGERS MORE HESITANT ABOUT GETTING IN. HE IS GOING TO FAIL AT THAT, THERE WAS A POLL THIS WEEK, ROUGHLY HALF OF REPUBLICANS WANT TO GO FOR ANOTHER GUY. THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER AND IT CANNOT BE UNRELATED TO THESE HEARINGS. WILLIAM: I WANT TO SWITCH TO THIS ISSUE OF THE CONTINUED FALLOUT OF THE SUPREME COURT OVERTURNING ROE V. WADE. DEMOCRATS SEEM TO BELIEVE THIS

COULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT GIVE THEM AT LEAST SOME TRACE OF A FIGHTING CHANCE IN THE MIDTERMS. WE SAW THIS WEEK THIS SORT OF HER IN THIS CASE OF A YOUNG 10-YEAR-OLD GIRL WHO HAD BEEN RAPED. SHE GOT PREGNANT, SHE THEN HAD TO LEAVE HER STATE AND GO TO ANOTHER STATE WHERE ABORTION WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED. GOP OFFICIALS TRIED TO MAKE HAY OF IT, THEY DOUBTED IT IT -- DOUBTED THE STORY EXISTED, THE LOCAL AG SAID I'M GOING TO GO AFTER THE DOCTOR. DO YOU THINK THAT ISSUE IN THE EXTREMITY AND HOW THIS IS HANDLED WILL AFFECT DEMOCRATS? JONATHAN: IT SHOULD. THE IDEA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VIOLENCE AGAINST A CHILD AND THEN BEING FORCED BY THE STATE TO GIVE BIRTH TO THIS CHILD -- GOING TO ANOTHER STATE SO SHE CAN TERMINATE THE PREGNANCY AND THEN BEING

PERSECUTED OR PROSECUTED BY THE STATE FOR DOING THAT? THIS IS, YOU KNOW, DURING THE TRUMP YEARS, I STARTED WATCHING "THE HANDMAID'S TALE," BECAUSE I THOUGHT I NEEDED MY MIND TO BE OPEN TO HOW BAD THINGS COULD GET INEFFECTUAL SETTING, AND I STARTED -- AND I STOPPED WATCHING WHEN REAL-LIFE STARTED TO MIRROR WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THAT SHOW AND I WAS A FEW SEASONS BEHIND. WE ARE IN "HANDMAID'S TALE" TERRITORY, TURNING INTO GILEAD. IF PEOPLE ARE UPSET BY THE SUPREME COURT DECISION AND WHAT REPUBLICAN LEGISLATORS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND STATES AND LOCALITIES ARE DOING TO FURTHER RESTRICTIONS AND BANS ON ABORTION -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD PUSH PEOPLE TO THE POLLS MORE THAN NOT JUST BEING STRICT ABOUT CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, BUT HAVING YOUR RIGHT TO

FREEDOM, RIGHT TO PRIVACY, RIGHT TO LIBERTY NOT JUST TAKEN AWAY, BUT LOCAL OFFICIALS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ENSURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AUTONOMY OVER YOUR OWN BODY. IF THAT DOESN'T GET PEOPLE TO THE POLLS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL. WILLIAM: DAVID, THIS WAS AN INCREDIBLY EXTREME CASE AND IN SOME WAYS CRYSTALLIZED THE SHARPNESS AND HORRIBLENESS OF THE DIVISION IN THE COUNTRY. DO YOU THINK IT WILL END UP TO THE MACHIAS BENEFIT? -- DEMOCRAT'S BENEFIT. DAVID: A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT MUCH. NOTHING I SAY SHOULD DISSUADE ANYBODY FROM PURSUING THE CAUSE, BUT THERE IS A GIANT GAP BETWEEN WHAT A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. IF YOU ASK PEOPLE ABOUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES, PROGRESSIVES WANT TO TALK ABOUT ABORTION AND GUNS, AND THE ENTIRE REST OF THE COUNTRY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE

ECONOMY. FOR THEM, THE ECONOMY IS WAY UP HERE. JOBS ARE NUMBER ONE IN INFLATION NUMBER TWO. WHY IS JOE BIDEN AT THREE -- 33% APPROVAL? THE ECONOMY. WHY IN THE SAME POLL DO HALF OF HISPANICS SUPPORT THE REPUBLICANS NOW? THE ECONOMY. WILLIAM: EARTHQUAKE TYPE NUMBERS. DAVID: I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY AN OUTLIER BUT WE'VE HAD A SERIES OF POLLS SHOWING A LOT OF HISPANIC MOVEMENT TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND TURNING INTO A MULTIRACIAL, WORKING-CLASS PARTY. PEOPLE SHOULD PURSUE THEIR PASSIONS AND THESE ISSUES, BUT IF DEMOCRATS, IF THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC POLICY EVERY DAY, THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE POLICY THAT IS CLEARLY RANKING NUMBER ONE WITH A VAST MAJORITY OF VOTERS. JONATHAN: AND YET, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GENERIC BALLOT IN THESE SAME POLLS, IT IS EVENLY SPLIT WHEN PEOPLE ARE >> AND YET, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GENERIC BALLOT, INFLATION IS BIG AND THE ECONOMY IS BIG.

YET, THE GENERIC BALLOT IS STILL EVENLY SPLIT SO PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THINK THAT THINGS ARE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION BUT THEY DON'T TRUST REPUBLICANS TO RUN THE COUNTRY. >> THAT IS WHY WE ARE SEEING THE PRESIDENT OF SAUDI ARABIA AND DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO GET THE PRICE OF GAS DOWN. THANK YOU,. IT WAS GOOD TO SEE BOTH OF YOU. ARTIST NAPOLEON JON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TE >>> ARTIST NAPOLEON JONES HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TEXTILES AND OTHER MEDIA FOR MANY YEARS. HIS ARTISTIC PROWESS IS ON DISPLAY AT THE INSTITUTE OF CONTEMPORARY ART IN BOSTON. WE RECENTLY MET HIM AT HIS HOME AS PART OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. >> I HAVE ABOUT SIX OR 7000

BOOKS. >> Reporter: IF EVER THERE WAS A HOME BUILT ON PASSION OF FUEL BY ART, THIS IS IT. NAPOLEON JONES HENDERSON HAS LIVED HERE FOR 47 YEARS. >> DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT WORKING SPACES? >> YES. EACH ROOM IS A DIFFERENT WORKING SPACE. I WOULD COLLEGE AESTHETIC AND AN INTELLECTUAL RESOURCE. THAT IS WHAT IT IS FOR ME. >> Reporter: THIS GREEK REVIVAL HOME ISKNOWN AS THE EDWARD EVERETT HALE HOUSE. HALE WAS AN EVOLUTIONIST WHO ADVOCATED FOR FREEING SLAVES PEOPLE. >> PEOPLE SUCH AS -- AND DOUG WAS, THEY HAVE ALL TIPTOED THROUGH THIS HOUSE SO IN A WAY OF SPEAKING I SEE IT AS A RESPONSIBILITY OF MINE TO WORK WITH THAT ENERGY. IT IS MY LIFE.

TRUCK IN 1968 JONES HENDERSON WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE CHICAGO ARTIST COLLECTIVE. OR, THE AFRICAN COMMUNE. AND NOW AT THE ICA, THE DECADES OF WORK AND TEXTILES HE PRODUCED ACCORDING TO THE AESTHETIC PRINCIPLES FILLS THIS RETROSPECTIVE. >> THAT MANIFESTO, THAT DROVE OUR WORK, IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE AND TO PROJECT POSITIVE IMAGES AND WORKS THAT REFLECT THE BEAUTY AND THE MAJESTY OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. >> THEY ASKED THEMSELVES THE QUESTION, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE VISUAL ARTIST AS PART OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. >> Reporter: JEFFREY IS THE CURATOR OF THE SHOW AND SAYS THAT THERE WERE BY JONES HENDERSON HAS BEEN IN DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMUNITY, REFLECTING THE CULTURE COUNSELING WHICH, AND MUSIC. >> THEY WOULD USE MUSIC IN A PARTICULAR WAY. LYRICS FROM BLACK MUSIC LIKE

STEVIE WONDER. AT OTHER TIMES, AN INDIVIDUAL WORK THAT IS DEDICATED TO A BODY OF WORK BY A MUSICIAN. SO, IT HAS VARIOUS ITERATIONS BUT THERE IS A SENSE OF RHYTHM AND MUSICALITY. >> Reporter: JONES HENDERSON STUDY DID TEXTILE WEAVING AT THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO. BEFORE THAT IT WAS FAMILY PRACTICE. >> IT STARTS OUT WITH MY GRANDPARENTS AND MY AUNTS AND ALL OF THE WOMEN IN MY FAMILY. IT WAS QUILTING AND PATCHING THE HOLES IN YOUR PANTS AFTER THEY WORE OUT. >> Reporter: OVER DECADES HE SCOOPED UP ROLE AFTER ROLE OF FABRIC FROM THE THRIVING TEXTILE MILLS OF TEXAS. IN 1974, HE CAME ACROSS --. >> A BECAME FULLY AVAILABLE. THE ASPECTS THAT ONE CAN FIND IN

MEDIEVAL TAPESTRIES AND SUCH, WHERE THEY HAVE THE GOLDEN THE SILVER THREADS, IT IS THE VERY SAME THING. >> IN THE LATE 60s AND 70s, IN CHICAGO IN PARTICULAR, WE SAW BROTHERS WERE WALKING AROUND WITH THESE KOOL-AID COLOR OUTFITS. LIME GREEN, PURPLE, STRAWBERRY RED. THAT STYLE IS WHAT WE SAW AS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT TO DEPICT IN OUR VISUAL WORK AND TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, KOOL-AID IS VERY CLOSE TO WATERCOLOR. >> Reporter: HIS MOST RECENT PIECES IN THE PROJECT HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IS A SERIES OF SCULPTURES TITLED REQUIEM FOR OUR ANCESTORS. THEY ARE SHRINES TO SPIRITS AND BEGAN WITH THE DESIRE TO HONOR THE FOUR GIRLS KILLED IN 1963 AT THE SOUTH STREET BAPTIST CHURCH.

>> LOOKING AT THOSE LITTLE GIRLS AND MANY OTHER AFRICAN- AMERICANS WHO HAVE DIED OR WERE KILLED OR MURDERED AND TERRORIZED, WHOSE PASSING, THEIR SPIRITS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HONORED AND HELD SACRED BY THE PEOPLE WHO THEY WERE A PART OF. >> Reporter: AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH SHRINE, IT IS MEANT TO CATCH THE WIND AS DERIVED FROM IN A JURY AND TRADITION. >> IT IS THE STEERING OF THE SPIRITS. THESE STRUCTURES ARE SPACES FOR SPIRITS THAT HAVE BEEN UNEASY OUT HERE SINCE 1619 AND COMING FORWARD. THEY HAVE A PLACE TO BE. >> Reporter: FROM A MUSEUM TO A HOME WHERE THE SPIRIT ALWAYS MOVES NAPOLEON JONES HENDERSON. FOR THE PBS NEWS HOUR I AM JARED BOWEN. WILLIAM: MARIA HINA PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING >>> MARIA IS A PULITZER PRIZE

MEXICAN-AMERICAN NET JOURNALIST AND THE LEADER OF FUTURO MEDIA GROUP. IT TONIGHT SHE SHARES HER TAKE ON BEING A POWERFUL LATINA IN THE MEDIA TODAY. >> PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, YOU ARE JUST SO OBSESSED WITH IMMIGRATION BECAUSE YOU ARE A MEXICAN IMMIGRANT BUT ACTUALLY, I AM OBSESSED WITH INHUMANITY IN THIS COUNTRY. THE THING ABOUT MY COMING TO AMERICA STORY IS THAT THERE WERE DIFFERENT VERSIONS. WE FLEW IN BY PLANE TO MEET MY FATHER BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED AT THE DALLAS AIRPORT WITH THE IMMIGRATION AGENT. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED UNTIL THE POLICY THAT WAS ENACTED IN THE UNITED STATES UNDER THE TRUMP

ADMINISTRATION. THEY STARTED TAKING CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS. MY MOM CALLED ME AND WAS VERY UPSET. I TRIED TO CALM HER DOWN AND SHE SAID, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO TELL YOU. THOSE MOTHERS, THEY WERE ME. THAT BABY, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN YOU. AND IT WAS LIKE THE STORY OF MY ARRIVAL HAPPEN. IMMIGRATION AGENTS TRY TO TAKE ME FROM MY MOTHER AT THE BORDER. WHEN I HEARD THE STORY OF HOW I WAS ALMOST TAKEN FROM MY MOM, IT MADE ME UNDERSTAND WHY I DO WHAT I DO. AND THAT MEANS, I AM NOT GOING TO STOP. I WAS THE FIRST LATINA HIRED AT NPR. úI WAS NOT LIKE ANYONE ELSE IN THE NEWSROOM. I UNDERSTOOD AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING HIRED AS THE FIRST LATINA BUT I HAVE RESPONSIBILITY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COULD

PITCH A STORY ABOUT ANYTHING FROM BASEBALL TO WALL STREET TO POLITICS. BUT, MY SECRET SAUCE, WHAT I KNOW BEST, AND WHAT I WILL BRING INTO THE NEWSROOM, IS THE LIFE THAT I LIVE. AND I CHALLENGE MY FOLLOWED JOURNALISTS TO MOVE WITH THEIR HEARTS MORE OFTEN. I DON'T THINK MOVING WITH YOUR HEART AS A JOURNALIST MAKES YOU LESS OF A JOURNALIST. I THINK IT MAKES YOU THE BEST JOURNALIST YOU CAN BE. IF YOU CAN HANDLE IT. MY NAME IS MARIA AND THIS IS MY BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR TAKE ON BEING A POWERFUL LATINA IN THE MEDIA. >>> I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH MARIA MANY YEARS AGO AND SHE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON AND A FIERCE REPORTER. YOU CAN WATCH WERE BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR VIDEOS AT PBS NEWSHOUR. DON'T FORGET TO TUNE INTO WASHINGTON WEEK. OUR OWN LISA WILL BE HOSTING. TOMORROW ON PBS NEWS WEEKEND, WE GET THE LATEST ON THE GROUND

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