PBS NewsHour; Tuesday, July 5, 2022, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

JUDY: GOOD EVENING. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ON THE "NEWSHOUR" TONIGHT, THE AFTERMATH. POLICE SEARCH FOR A MOTIVE BEHIND THE JULY 4 PARADE SHOOTING THAT HAS SHAKEN THE COMMUNITY OF HIGHLAND PARK, ILLINOIS. THEN, THE CLIMATE QUESTION. THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION OPPOSING THE AUTHORITY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY RAISES QUESTIONS ABO WHETHER THE U.S. CAN EFFECTIVELY FIGHT CLIMATE CHANGE. AND, THE COST OF WAR. UKRAINIAN REFUGEES ACROSS EUROPE STRUGGLE WITH THE PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA CAUSED BY THE RUSSIAN INVASION. >> I'VE NEVER FELT THIS WAY BEFORE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, LIKE IN A MONTH, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE, WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO. JUDY: ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S "PBS NEWSHOUR." ♪ >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE PBS

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PUBLIC BROADCASTING AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. JUDY: A SEVENTH PERSON HAS DIED FROM THE MASS SHOOTING IN HIGHLAND PARK, ILLINOIS. POLICE ARE CHARGING THE GUNMEN WITH MULTIPLE COUNTS THIS EVENING. POLICE SAID TODAY THAT THE 22-YEAR-OLD PRE-PLANNED THE JULY 4 ATTACK FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. NEARLY 40 OTHER PEOPLE WERE INJURED AFTER THE SPECT FIRED OVER 70 ROUNDS DURING A HOLIDAY PARADE. WHILE THE COMMUNITY GRIEVES, LAW ENFORCEMENT IS STILL TRYING TO DETERMINE A MOTIVE. LISA DESJARDINS BEGINS OUR COVERAGE WITH THIS REPORT. LISA: THE SCENE OF CHAOS YESTERDAY ALLEGEDLY CAME FROM A CALCULATED PLAN WEEKS IN THE MAKING. POLICE IN ILLINOIS RELEASED MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ROBERT CRIMO, THE 21-YEAR-OLD ACCUSED OF CARRYING OUT YESTERDAY'S DEADLY

MASS SHOOTING. OFFICIALS SAY HE USED IN AR-15 STYLE RIFLE, WITH A SECOND ONE FOUND WITH HIM WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED, PLUS OTHER HANDGUNS AT HIS RESIDENCE. ALL BUT LEGALLY AND LOCALLY, BUT AUTHORITIES PROVIDED NO DETAILS ON HOW. THE DEPUTY CHIEF SAYS THE GUNMEN CLIMBED ONTO A ROOF VIA A FIRE ESCAPE BEFORE SHOOTING DOWN ON THE CROWD. >> DURING THE ATTACK, CRIMO WAS DRESSED IN WOMEN'S CLOTHING AND INVESTIGATORS BELIEVE HE DID THIS TO CONCEAL HIS FACIAL TATTOOS AND HIS IDENTITY AND HELP HIM DURING THE ESCAPE WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE FLEEING THE CHAOS. LISA: AUTHORITIES SAID CONCERN ABOUT THE SUSPECT WAS RAISED TWICE IN 2019. A SUICIDE ATTEMPT AND SEPARATELY, A THREAT TO HIS FAMILY. >> A FAMILY REMEMBER REPORTED THAT CRIMO SAID HE WAS GOING TO KILL EVERYONE AND HE HAD A COLLECTION OF KNIVES. THE POLICE RESPONDED TO HIS RESIDENCE. THEY REMOVED 16 KNIVES, A DAGGER AND A SWORD FROM HIS HOME. AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS NO

PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST. LISA: THE PARADE ROUTE WAS BEHIND POLICE LINES, SCATTERED WITH THE A BENDING BELONGINGS OF THOSE WHO FLED. THE SCENE JOINT A BLOODY COLLAGE. A CHURCH, SCHOOL, AND GROCERY STORE, RECENT SITES OF MASS MURDER. THIS TIME, IT WAS THE HEAVILY JEWISH CHICAGO SUBURB OF HIGHLAND PARK THAT WAS TERRORIZED. THE SHOOTER'S MOTIVE IS STILL UNCLEAR. >> WE HAVE NO INFORMATION TO SUGGEST AT THIS POINT IT WAS RACIALLY MOTIVATED, MOTIVATED BY RELIGION, OR ANY OTHER PROTECTED STATUS. LISA: WITNESSES DESCRIBED A COMMUNITY SHATTERED. >> EVERYONE IS PRETTY SHAKEN. WE ARE USED TO HEARING ABOUT THIS STUFF ELSEWHERE BUT IT HITS HARDER WHEN IT IS NOT ONLY YOUR HOMETOWN, BUT IT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. LISA: THE AGES OF THOSE KILLED OR WOUNDED SPAN FROM EIGHT TO 85. AMONG THE FIVE, A 78-YEAR-OLD GRANDFATHER WITH A CHILDREN. HE WAS VISITING HIS FAMILY WHO

DESCRIBED HIM AS THEIR GUARDIAN ANGEL. ANOTHER VICTIM, JACKIE, A TEACHER AND LIFELONG MEMBER OF A NEARBY SYNAGOGUE. THE CONGREGATION SAID HER WARMTH AND KINDNESS TOUCHED THEM ALL. ALSO KILLED, VICTIMS NAMED TODAY. IRENA AND KEVIN MCCARTHY, PARENTS TO A SURVIVING TWO-YEAR-OLD. CATHERINE GOLDSTEIN AND STEPHEN STRAUSS. THE ACCUSED GUNMAN WHO UNLEASHED THE CHAOS HAD A HISTORY OF GLORIFYING MASS MURDERS ON FAR RIGHT INTERNET FORUMS. THE U.S. TESTING AT LEAST 315 MASS SHOOTINGS THIS YEAR, DEFINED AS FOUR OR MORE PEOPLE INJURED OR SHOT. AT THE WHITE HOUSE, FLAGS FLEW AT HALF STAFF TO MOURN A TRAGIC AND NOW VERY FAMILIAR AMERICAN DAY. I'M LISA DESJARDINS. JUDY: LET'S GO TO HIGHLAND PARK TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HOW THAT COMMUNITY IS COPING AND THE QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THIS SHOOTING. NANCY ROTERING IS THE MAYOR AND SHE JOINS ME NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU DO HAVE OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES. WE KNOW THAT A SEVENTH PERSON HAS DIED. WELL OVER 30 PEOPLE WOUNDED. CAN YOU TELL US ANY MORE THOSE STILL IN THE HOSPITAL? MAYOR ROTERING: FOLKS WHO STILL IN THE HOSPITAL HAVE A BROAD RANGE OF INJURIES AND THEY ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT REGIONAL HOSPITALS. SO, WE ARE OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO RESPECT THE TERROR AND SADNESS THEIR FAMILIES ARE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO GIVE THEM THEIR SPACE. BUT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A WEAPON OF WAR MEANT TO DESTROY HUMAN LIFE. SO, PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH A BROAD RANGE OF INJURIES. JUDY: WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY? HOW ARE THEY DOING? MAYOR ROTERING: WE ARE IN DEEP MOURNING. YESTERDAY WAS MORE OF A MATTER OF SHOCK AND DISBELIEF THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY. TODAY, IT IS A DAY OF SHEER SADNESS.

WHEREVER I GO, WE ARE HUGGING, WE ARE CRYING. PEOPLE AREN'T IN SO MUCH PAIN RIGHT NOW. JUDY: WE HAVE JUST LEARNED THAT ONG THE VICTIMS WERE BOTH PARENTS OF A TWO-YEAR-OLD CHILD. WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IS BEING DONE FOR THAT FAMILY? MAYOR ROTERING: THAT TO ME WAS ONE OF THE MOST HEARTBREAKING STORIES OF YESTERDAY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE BABY WAS RETRIEVED FROM UNDERNEATH HIS FATHER AND WAS CA RRIED TO SAFETY. WE SPENT HOURS TRYING TO LOCATE THE PARENTS, AND WHEN IT BECAME CLEAR NO ONE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE CHILD, I SUSPECT THE WORST. HE IS SAFELY WITH HIS GRANDPARENTS. THERE ARE TWO EFFORTS TO ASSIST ALL OF THE VICTIMS OF THIS SITUATION. THEY'RE BOTH AVAILABLE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE'S FRONT PAGE. JUDY: WE CAN ONLY IMAGINE. YET ANOTHER INCIDENT LIKE THIS. WE WATCHED THE NEWS CONFERENCE

THAT YOU AND THE POLICE OFFICIALS HAD A SHORT TIME AGO. WE UNDERSTAND THERE WERE TWO ENCOUNTERS WITH THE SUSPECT IN 2019. ONE IN THE SPRING OF THAT YEAR AFTER HE ATTEMPTED SUICIDE. HIS FAMILY CONTACTED POLICE, NO CHARGES THEN. AGAIN LATER THAT YEAR, THERE WERE KNIVES, A SWORD AND SO FORTH. AGAIN, NO CHARGES, BUT POLICE WERE MADE AWARE. SHOULD MOORE HAVE BEEN DONE IN 2019? MAYOR ROTERING: I'M CONFIDENT WHAT THE POLICE DID WAS WITHIN THEIR CAPABILITIES UNDER THE LAW. WE DID NOTIFY THE ILLINOIS STATE POLICE IN THE 2019 EVENT, AND WE WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS ARE HAVING ACCESS TO GUNS. IT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS UNIQUE TO THE UNITED STATES. WE KNOW THAT THROUGHOUT THE

WORLD, PEOPLE HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS, THEY HAVE ANGER ISSUES. THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES AND WEAPONS THAT ARE FRANKLY USED IN COMBAT. JUDY: AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT, BECAUSE THESE WEAPONS USED APPARENTLY WERE OBTAINED ILLEGALLY. HE IS 21 YEARS -- OBTAINED LEGALLY. HE IS 21 YEARS OLD. THIS IS A COMMUNITY, HIGHLAND PARK, ILLINOIS WITH RELATIVE TOUGH GUN CONTROL LAWS ON THE BOOKS. YET, HE WAS ABLE TO GET THESE GUNS AND DO THIS. MAYOR ROTERING: RIGHT. WITHIN OUR ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND HIGH-CAPACITY MAGAZINE BAN, HE OBVIOUSLY BROKE THAT LAW. THE PROBLEM IS THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, THERE ARE NOT MANY COMMUNITIES BANNING THESE COMBAT WEAPONS. WE NEED TO HAVE A NATIONAL APPROACH THAT SAYS THIS IS NOT PART OF WHAT A CIVILIZED SOCIETY HAS ON ITS STREETS. WE REPRESENT THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY AND DID WHAT WE COULD

WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE LAW. I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE GOVERNOR, THE SENATE PRESIDENT AND THE HOUSE SPEAKER. WE NEED TO CHANGE LEGISLATION IN ILLINOIS, BUT FRANKLY WE NEED TO CHANGE LEGISLATION IN THE U.S. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY STATES WITH VERY LENIENT GUN LAWS. SO, WE ARE DOING OUR PART AS MUCH AS WE CAN, BUT WE AS A COUNTRY NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY ENOUGH WITH THE CARNAGE. THIS IS AN ALMOST WEEKLY EVENT. I HEARD FROM SEVERAL MAYORS YESTERDAY, WHO THEY THEMSELVES HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE. THERE IS A HANDBOOK THAT IS SENT TO MAYORS IN THE WAKE OF A MASS SHOOTING. THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO A COMMUNITY WHO ONLY WANTS TO GATHER TO CELEBRATE FREEDOM AND ENDS OF DEALING WITH BASICALLY THIS HORROR. JUDY: I HEAR YOU SAYING THIS, MADAME MAYOR, YET THE CONGRESS JUST PASSED A LAW LAST WEEK. THEY WERE APPLAUDED FOR FINALLY COMING TOGETHER TO DO SOMETHING. JUST TODAY, THE SENATE

REPUBLICAN LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL IS SAYING THE PROBLEM IS MENTAL HEALTH AND IT DOES APPEAR TO BE AN ISSUE IN THIS SHOOTING, BUT CLEARLY, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. THESE SHOOTINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS. MAYOR ROTERING: LET'S POSE THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY ARE PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND OTHER COUNTRIES THAT DO NOT HAVE TO ENDURE THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE ON A WEEKLY BASIS. MITCH, YOU ARE RIGHT, WE NEED TO PUT MORE RESOURCES TOWARDS MENTAL HEALTH CARE BUT THERE IS A SECOND PRONG, DIMINISHING ACCESS TO WPONS USED IN COMBAT. JUDY: MAYOR ROTERING. OUR DEEP CONDOLENCES TO YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. MAYOR ROTERING: THANK YOU, JUDY. ♪ JUDY: IN THE DAY'S OTHER NEWS, IN UKRAINE, THE GOVERNOR OF

DONETSK IS URGING THE 350,000 REMAINING RESIDENTS TO EVACUATE FROM THE LAST EASTERN PROVINCE THAT'S STILL PARTLY UNDER GOVERNMENT CONTROL AS RUSSIAN TROOPS STEP UP THEIR OFFENSIVE. MEANWHILE, A NEW WAVE OF HEAVY RUSSIAN SHELLING POUNDED THE CITIES OF SLOVIANSK AND KRAMATORSK, HITTING RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND A MARKET. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON ALL THIS LATER IN THE PROGRAM. NATO'S 30 NATIONS SIGNED ACCESSION PROTOCOLS TODAY FOR FINLAND AND SWEDEN TO JOIN THE ALLIANCE. THAT EACH COUNTRY'S LEGISLATURE STILL NEEDS TO RATIFY THEIR MEMBERSHIP BIDS. TURKEY'S GOVERNMENT SAID IT MIGHT REFUSE IF THE TWO COUNTRIES FAIL TO MEET THEIR DEMANDS TO EXTRADITE PEOPLE THEY PERCEIVE TO BE TERROR SUSPECTS. NATO SECRETARY-GENERAL JENS STOLTENBERG URGED ALLIES TO MOVE SWIFTLY. >> WITH 32 NATIONS AROUND THE TABLE, WE WILL BEVEN STRONGER AND OUR PEOPLE WILL BE EVEN SAFER AS WE FACE THE BIGGEST

SECURITY CRISIS IN DECADES. JUDY: IF RATIFIED, IT WILL BE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF NATO IN DECADES, FURTHER ISOLATING RUSSIA FROM THE WEST. IN AUSTRALIA, MORE THAN 50,000 PEOPLE IN AND AROUND SYDNEY ARE NOW UNDER EVACUATION ORDERS OR WARNINGS AMID A FLOOD EMERGENCY THAT'S LEFT HUNDREDS OF HOMES COMPLETELY INUNDATED. SEVERAL DAYS OF TORRENTAL RAIN HAVE FLOODED ROADS, SUBMERGED ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND CAUSED WATERWAYS TO OVERFLOW LEAVING RESIDENTS IN DISBELIEF. >> WE'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS, AND THIS YEAR, IT'S BEEN THE WORST. WE'VE HAD THREE MAJOR FLOODS IN THREE YEARS AND IT'S JUST BEEN SHOCKING. >> ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED. IT'S REALLY HARD. SO, WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE JUST DOING ONE DAY AT A TIME, GETTING THROUGH IT. JUDY: WEATHER FORECASTERS EXPECT THE RAIN WILL SUBSIDE BY TOMORROW. BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON IS FACING MORE POLITICAL PRESSURE TODAY AFTER TWO OF HIS

TOP CABINET MINISTERS REGNED. TREASURY CHIEF RISHI SUNAK AND HEALTH SECRETARY SAJID JAVID BOTH QUIT, CITING JOHNSON'S LACK OF INTEGRITY. THEIR RESIGNATIONS CAME AS JOHNSON, WHO NARROWLY SURVIVED A NO CONFIDENCE VOTE LAST MONTH, APOLOGIZED FOR APPOINTING A LAWMAKER TO A TOP POSITION IN SPITE OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT CLAIMS. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE SPECIAL GRAND JURY INVESTIGATING FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ATTEMPT TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS IN GEORGIA HAS SUBPOENAED HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI AND REPUBLICAN U.S. SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. SUBPOENAS WERE ALSO ISSUED TO MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP LEGAL TEAM. IT MARKS A NEW PHASE IN THEIR PROBE PROSECUTORS SEEK TESTIMONY FROM MR. TRUMP'S INNER CIRCLE. AND, STOCKS WERE MIXED ON WALL STREET TODAY. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST 129 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 30,968.

THE NASDAQ ROSE 194 POINTS, AND THE S&P 500 ADDED SIX. STILL TO COME ON THE "NEWSHOUR," THE FAMILY OF A BLACK MAN IN OHIO, WHO WAS SHOT DOZENS OF TIMES BY POLICE, DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. RUSSIAN FORCES SET THEIR SIGHTS ON NEW TARGETS AFTER A KEY VICTORY IN EASTERN UKRAINE. A DEAF ACTOR CHALLENGES MUSICAL THEATER NORMS BY STARRING IN "THE MUSIC MAN." PLUS, MUCH MORE. >> THIS IS THE PBS NEWSHOUR FROM WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. JUDY: THE SUPREME COURT'S RECENT DECISION TO LIMIT THE AUTHORITY OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS MANY WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION CAN REACH ITS CLIMATE GOALS. THE PRESIDENT HAD PLEDGED THAT BY 2030, THE COUNTRY WOULD REDUCE ITS GREENHOUSE GAS

EMISSIONS BY 50% FROM 2005 LEVELS. THAT NOW SEEMS EVEN MORE UNLIKELY. AMNA NAWAZ HAS MORE. AMNA: JUDY, THE COURT RULED 6-3 THAT THE CLEAN AIR ACT DOES NOT GIVE THE EPA BLANKET REGULATIONS AGAINST POWER PLANTS MANY ENVIRONMENTALISTS SEE THE RULING AS A SERIOUS SETBACK IN THE FIGHT TO SLOW CLIMATE CHANGE AND REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. I'M JOINED BY MICHAEL OPPENHEIMER, A PROFESSOR OF GEOSCIENCES AND INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS AT PRINCETON UNIVERSITY. HE IS ONE OF THE SIX SCIENTISTS WHO FILED AN AMICUS BRIEF IN THE SUPREME COURT CASE. AND MUSTAFA ALI, WHO FORMERLY WORKED IN THE EPA OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND IS NOW WITH THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION. WELCOME TO YOU BOTH. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE RULING CLEARLY LEAVES THE ADMINISTRATION WITH FAR FEWER TOOLS TO FIGHT THE CLIMATE CRISIS, BUT THE EPA ADMINISTRATION INSIST THEY CAN STILL MEET THEIR GOALS. IT WILL JUST TAKE A LITTLE

LONGER. DO YOU BUY THAT? >> THAT IS A VERY OPTIMISTIC VIEW. EVEN UNDER AN OPTIMISTIC VIEW, THIS DECISION WILL SERIOUSLY SLOW U.S. PROGRESS IN REDUCING EMISSIONS OF GREENHOUSE GASES AND AVOIDING DANGEROUS CLIMATE CHANGE. WHAT I MEAN BY DANGEROUS IS MUCH MORE OF THE KINDS OF WEATHER WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO SEE. RECORD HEAT, DROUGHT, SEA LEVEL RISE, AND REALLY INTENSE RAINSTORMS. IN SOME CASES, DROWNING PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN BEDROOMS. WHAT WAS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? WELL, CONGRESS, NUMBER ONE, COULD ACT. NUMBER TWO, THE ADMINISTRATION COULD DEVELOP POLICY. BECAUSE CONGRESS HAS BEEN SO DEADLOCKED BY POLARIZATION, THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING BACK TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, STARTED DEVELOPING REGULATIONS. THE WHOLE PROCESS WAS SLOWED AND DISRUPTED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION VERY GOOD PLAN THAT LOOKED LIKE IT

MIGHT AVOID DANGEROUS CLIMATE CHANGE. I'M AFRAID THIS DECISION WILL DISRUPT THAT POSSIBILITY FOR THE U.S. AND THE WORLD. AMNA: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE DANGER THAT MICHAEL JUST MENTIONED. THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS RULING. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE STAKES, THE COMMUNITIES WHO ARE WORST IMPACTED, MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY RULINGS LIKE THIS, WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES, LATINX COMMUNITIES, ASIAN AND PACIFIC ISLANDERS, INDIGENOUS BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND LOWER WEALTH WHITE COMMUNITIES. BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS POLICY, THEY'VE OFTEN BEEN PLACED IN SACRIFICE ZONES. WHERE WE TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THESE COAL POWER PLANTS ARE LOCATED, THEY ARE USUALLY LOCATED CLOSE TO OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, THEREBY IMPACTING THEIR HEALTH, EXTRACTING WEALTH, AND WE KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES ARE HIT FIRST AND WORST SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE CLIMATE CRISES THAT WERE MENTIONED. AMNA: YOU CORRUPT IN WEST VIRGINIA -- GREW UP IN WEST VIRGINIA, NOT FAR FROM A COAL

POWER PLANT. WHAT DID YOU SEE GROWING UP? >> RIGHT ACROSS THE RIVER, WE HAD A POWER PLANT AND WHEN THE WINDS WOULD SHIFT, THE EMISSIONS WOULD GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAD CANCERS. MY FAMILY HAS HAD MULTIPLE CANCERS. MY BEST FRIEND'S MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER DIED OF CANCER. THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAD MULTIPLE CANCERS. A CANCER USTER, IF YOU WILL. WE NEVER HAD AN ANALYSIS DONE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE OR THE THINGS THAT WERE NECESSARY AT THAT TIME, BUT OTHERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE FOUND THESE DIRECT CORRELATIONS BETWEEN THE BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS, BOTH THINGS LIKE SULFUR DIOXIDE, NITROGEN OXIDE, MERCURY, PTICULATE MATTER. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE A HUGE IMPACT. WE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE WE HAVE OVER 200,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE DYING PREMATURELY RIGHT NOW FROM AIR POLLUTION. WHEN THE SUPREME COURT MAKES

THIS DECISION, IT IS ALSO ADDING THE BURDEN ONTO THESE COMMUNITIES. WE KNOW WE'VE GOT 24 MILLION PEOPLE WITH ASTHMA AND 7 MILLION KIDS. DISPROPORTIONATELY IT IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND LATIN COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM'S AND LOSING THEIR LIVES. AMNA: MICHAEL, WHEN IT COMES TO THAT ACTION, YOU MENTION YOU DON'T SEE MUCH HOPE IN CONGRESS ACTING, ALTHOUGH THEY RETAIN THE AUTHORITY TO DO SOMETHING. WHEN IT COMES TO THE ADMINISTRATION, THIS RULING DOES NOT SAY THE EPA CANNOT REGULATE THE EMISSIONS. IT SAYS THEY HAVE TO FIND A DIFFERENT SET OF TOOLS TO DO SO. WHAT COULD THE ADMINISTRATION BE DOING RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK ANYTHING THE ADMINISTRATION TRIES TO DO, THEY WILL BE RIGHT BACK IN COURT AND THE CASE WILL HAVE TO WORK ITS WAY UP TO THE SAME SUPREME COURT WHICH HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO BE ANTITHETICAL TO THE IDEA OF DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE. REALLY THE POSSIBILITIES ARE AT THE STATE LEVEL WHERE A LOT OF STATES HAVE MOVED FORWARD. THE TROUBLE WITH THAT ROUTE IS SOME OF IT IS ALSO DEPENDENT ON

CLEAN AIR ACT AUTHORITY AND THE SAME FOSSIL FUEL INTERE STS AND OTHERS THAT DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS PROBLEM SOLVED WILL BE SUING THE STATES. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF INDUSTRY ITSELF TAKING THE LEAD, VOLUNTARY ACTION. FOR INSTANCE, THE AUTO INDUSTRY MAY SAY WE WILL MOVE AHEAD WITH ELECTRIFICATION OF MOTOR VEHICLES ANYWAY. THE SOLAR INDUSTRY MAY UP ITS INVESTMENTS, BUT THAT WILL NOT BE ENOUGH. YOU NEED TOUGH LOSS OR TOUGH REGULATIONS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY ENOUGH. WE'RE AFRAID THINGS ARE JUST GOING TO BE SLOWED DOWN UNTIL THERE'S A DIFFERENT VIEW AMONGST NOT JUST THE CONGRESS, BUT THE JUDICIARY AS WELL. AMNA: DO YOU BELIEVE THIS MAKES IT HARDER FOR THE U.S. TO PUSH OTHER MAJOR EMITTERS LIKE INDIA AND CHINA TO ACT? >> SOME COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA, I THINK WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO ANYWAY, MORE OR LESS REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.

EUROPE, IF IT DOESN'T -- IF IT'S FULL ENERGY SYSTEM IS NOT THROWN INTO DISARRAY BY THE WAR IN UKRAINE, THEY IN THE END WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE ROAD IT WAS ON, DEEPLY CUTTING EMISSIONS OF CARBON DIOXIDE. THERE ARE COUNTRIES LIKE INDIA THAT HAVE NOT DECIDED WHICH WAY THEY WILL GO. I THINK THOSE COUNTRIES MAY BE SERIOUSLY AFFECTED BY THE U.S. LACK OF INERTIA IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON THIS ISSUE. SO, WE WILL HAVE TO SEE, BUT I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. AMNA: I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD IN THE FEW SECONDS WE HAVE LEFT. I DON'T HEAR MUCH HOPE FOR MICHAEL. WHAT ABOUT YOU? DO YOU THINK THERE'S HOPE AHEAD FOR MEANINGFUL ACTION TO ADDRESS THIS CLIMATE CRISIS? >> I DO. MY GRANDMOTHER SAYS YOU HAVE POWER UNLESS YOU GIVE IT AWAY. WE SHOULD BE RAISING OUR VOICES. $550 BILLION SITTING RIGHT NOW ON CAPITOL HILL. WE NEED SENATOR MANCHIN, SENATOR CINEMA, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, TO COME TOGETHER

AND DO THE RIGHT THING, TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A JUST TRANSITION. THAT WE ARE MAKING THE INVESTMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY AROUND A CLEAN ECONOMY AND WE ARE LOWERING EMISSIONS. WE CAN HELP THE STATES AND COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT HAVE BEEN DOING INCREDIBLE WORK TO HAVE WHAT THEY NEED FOR THIS LONG JOURNEY THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TO ADDRESS THE CLIMATE CRISIS. THEN, WE CAN ALSO MAKE SURE WE UTILIZE OUR VOTE AND MAKE SURE WE ARE VOTING IN THOSE WHO CARE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITIES AND THOSE WHO WANT TO SEE A BRIGHTER AND MORE SUSTAINABLE FUTURE. AMNA: MUSTAFA AND MICHAEL JOINING US TONIGHT. MY THANKS TO YOU BOTH. >> THANK YOU. ♪ JUDY: PROTESTS ERUPTED LAST NIGHT IN AKRON, OHIO DESPITE A CITYWIDE CURFEW. DOZENS WERE ARRESTED. IT CAME ONE WEEK AFTER THE FATAL POLICE SHOOTING OF 25-YEAR-OLD JAYLAND WALKER, AN UNARMED BLACK MAN.

HUNDREDS OF PROTESTERS DEMANDED JUSTICE AFTER THE RELEASE OF BODY CAMERA VIDEO SHOWED OFFICERS IN PURSUIT FOLLOWED BY A HAIL OF BULLETS. WALKER SUSTAINED MORE THAN 60 WOUNDS. STEPHANIE SY HAS DETAILS. STEPHANIE: JUDY, THE FAMILY OF JAYLAND WALKER IS CALLING FOR PEACE AMID THE PROTESTS, BUT THEY ALSO WANT ANSWERS AND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THE POLICE. TO TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT JUSTICE WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE FAMILY IS BOBBY DICELLO, A MEMBER OF THE LEGAL TEAM REPRESENTING JAYLAND WALKER'S FAMILY. WE HAVE ALSO ASKED FOR AN INTERVIEW WITH THE MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF. THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE NEWSHOUR. THE OVERALL NARRATIVE FROM THE POLICE CHIEF IN AKRON IS THAT POLICE BELIEVE JAYLAND WALKER FIRED A GUN WHEN HE WAS IN HIS VEHICLE AND THAT OFFICERS FEARED HE WOULD FIRE AGAIN, THEY GUNNED HIM DOWN. JAYLENAS CAR. WE HAVE SEEN THE DISTURBING VIDEOS AND WE NOW KNOW HE WAS UNARMED WHEN POLICE OPENED FIRE. HAVE YOU SEEN OR HEARD EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY? BOBBY: HAVE I SEEN EVIDENCE TO

THE CONTRARY? YES. IN THAT THE POLICE ACCOUNT RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONCERNING TO US. THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE GUN WAS NOT FOUND IN THE FRONT SEAT. ACCORDING TO THE PRELIMINARY AUTOPSY REPORT, THERE IS EVIDENCE THE GUN WAS FOU IN THE BACKSEAT. THERE IS SOME CONCERNING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE NATURE AND QUALITY OF THE VIDEO BEING USED TO SUBSTANTIATE SOME KIND OF FLASH. AND WHETHER OR NOT THE DOOR WAS OPEN, I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO CRACK OPEN THEIR DOOR GOING 60 MILES PER HOUR AND TRY TO POINTED AT THE POLICE OFFICERS WITHOUT STICKING YOUR HEAD OUT THE WINDOW OR OUT THE SIDE OF THE DOOR. WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THESE ALLEGATIONS AND WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THEM. STEPHANIE: WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT HOW THE AKRON POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HANDLED THIS CASE SO FAR? I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE CHASE ITSELF BECAUSE THIS ALL STARTED AS AN ALLEGED TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR SOME SORT OF VEHICLE VIOLATION. THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTION ABOUT WHY THIS EVEN ENDED UP AS

A CHASE. BOBBY: THIS SHOULD BE A HUGE QUESTION AS TO WHY THIS ENDED UP AS A CHASE. THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS FACTS, THAT THERE WAS A CHASE. IT IS OUTRAGEOUS THAT THEY CHASED THIS MAN AND OUTRAGEOUS THAT THEY GUNNED HIM DOWN WITH MORE THAN 90 BULLETS AND MORE THAN 60 STRIKES TO HIS BODY. THERE WAS A GUY YESTERDAY THAT OPENED FIRE ON PEOPLE IN A PARK AND HE WAS APPROACHED -- IF YOU SAW THE VIDEO -HE WAS OPPOSED APPROACHED WITH PLEASE, THANK YOUS. MY CLIENT WAS RUNNING AWAY FROM POLICE WHEN HE WAS SHOT AT FROM BEHIND, FROM THE SITE AND THE FRONT. IT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TREATMENT FOR BLACK AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY. STEPHANIE: YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT RACIAL BIAS BECAUSE STATISTICALLY, BLACK PEOPLE ARE ABOUT 3.5 TIMES MORE LIKELY THAN WHITES TO BE KILLED BY POLICE. WHEN THEY ARE NOT ATTACKING AND WHEN THEY ARE UNARMED, WHICH WAS

THE CASE WHEN WALKER WAS ACTUALLY KILLED. THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER POLICE KNEW HE WAS UNARMED WHEN THEY KILLED HIM. DO YOU THINK -- THIS IS HAVING ANOTHER DATA POINT PROVING RACIAL BIAS? BOBBY: I HOPE IT IS NOT. I HOPE THIS CASE GIVES US THE PAUSE TO CONSIDER THE VALUE OF EVERY AMERICAN LIFE. I HOPE IT CAUSES LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE CITY OF AKRON TO DO TWO THINGS IMMEDIATELY.G GET DASHCAMS. NOT ONE CAR HAS A DASHCAM IN THAT CITY. THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE. THE SECOND THING THEY HAVE TO DO IS REVISE THEIR CHASE AND FIREARMS POLICIES. EIGHT OFFICERS THAT SHOT MY CLIENT AS HE WAS RUNNING AWAY AND WE HAVE TO ADDRESS BOTH OF THESE THINGS IMMEDIATELY. STEPHANIE: JAYLAND WAS ONLY 25. I READ HE WORKED AT DOORDASH. UP UNTIL THIS INCIDENT, HE HAD NO CRIMINAL RECORD.

I ALSO READ HE HAD RECENTLY LOST HIS FIANCEE IN A HORRIBLE CAR ACCIDENT. WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER HIS HUMANITY AS WE LOOK AT THIS CASE? AND WHAT ELSE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHO HE WAS? BOBBY: BEAUTIFUL QUESTION. HIS HUMANITY IS WHAT WE ARE. WE ARE ALL A COLLECTIVE AMERICAN FAMILY. THERE IS NO NEED TO DIVIDE OURSELVES ANYMORE. THERE IS NO NEED TO TAKE THIS CASE INTO THE SPOTLIGHT AS AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER BLACK LIFE LOST, UNLESS WE IGNORE THAT ANOTHER BLACK LIFE WAS LOST. WE HAVE TO CONFRONT THE ISSUES THAT THIS CASE HIGHLIGHTS. LOOK, THE WAY MEN ARE TREATED WHO ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN IS DOCUMENTED TO BE DIFFERENT AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE. STEPHANIE: BOBBY, A LAWYER FOR JAYLAND WALKER'S FAMILY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE NEWSHOUR.

BOBBY: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. ♪ JUDY: AFTER MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS OF INTENSE FIGHTING, RUSSIA CLAIMED VICTORY OVER ONE OF THE TWO PROVINCES IN UKRAINE'S EASTERN INDUSTRIAL HEARTLAND. BUT THAT VICTORY CAME AT STEEP PRICE WITH RUSSIAN FORCES SUFFERING HEAVY LOSSES. NICK SCHIFRIN HAS THE STORY. NICK: THEY MADE A WASTELAND AND CALL THE VICTORY. RUSSIAN STATE TELEVISION SHOWED OFF ITS SOLDIER'S HANDIWORK IN A CITY THAT HAD TO BE DESTROYED TO BE CAPTURED. JOURNALISTS WHO ENTERED WITH RUSSIAN FORCES FILMED IT. THE HUMANITARIAN CENTER, VOLUNTEERS SAY WAS HIT BY 50 BOMBS. THE MARKET WHERE CIVILIANS SHOPPED. THE CHURCH WHERE THEY PRAYED IN THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE RUSSIAN TORMENRS.

NO CHOICE BUT TO SWITCH THEIR LOYALTIES EAST. >> WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? I'M GOING TO SEE MY KIDS IN RUSSIA. THAT IS ALL FOR NOW. HOPEFULLY I STAY ALIVE. NICK: NOW MOSCOW IS ONTO THE NEXT URBAN TARGET. A MARKET WHERE THE MAYOR WARNED RESIDENTS TO EVACUATE. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, ALL DOORS AND WINDOWS BLOWN OUT BY THE RUSSIAN ROCKET WHOSE REMNANTS REMAIN ON THE STREET. OVER THE WEEKEND, RUSSIAN FORCES CAPTURED THE FINAL UKRAINIAN HEALTH CITY, WHICH ALLOWS THEM TO FOCUS ON THE DONETSK REGION THEY DON'T ALREADY OCCUPY, INCLUDING TODAY'S TARGETS. THAT IS WHERE SCORES OF RESIDENTS LINED UP OUTSIDE HUMANITARIAN CENTERS TO GATHER FOOD. IT IS RUN BY THE WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN. ENOUGH PROVISIONS FOR A MONTH FOR THOSE WHO STAYED. ONE 83-YEAR-OLD HAS NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. >> I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE. WE HAVE NO MONEY TO GO ANYWHERE. WHAT WILL BE WILL BE.

IF THEY KILL ME, THEY KILL ME. NICK: YESTERDAY, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT PUTIN DECLARED VICTORY BUT ALSO HINTED THE NEXT PHASE COULD HAVE TO WAIT. >> THE UNITS THAT TOOK PART IN ACTIVE HOSTILITIES AND ACHIEVED SUCCESS, VICTORY, SHOULD REST AND INCREASE THEIR COMIC ABILITIES -- CAPABILITIES. NICK: RUSSIA MAY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. SOME WESTERN ARTILLERY IS ARRIVING, GIVING UKRAINIAN SOLDIERS MORE ACCURACY AND MOBILITY. IT'S AN ARTILLERY WAR, AS ONE AMERICAN SAW UP CLOSE. >> IT IS INCREDIBLY INTENSE. I WOULD SAY PROBABLY RESEMBLES WORLD WAR II MORE THAN IT DOES ANY OF THE MORE RECENT CONFLICTS. NICK: ISAAC, WHO REQUESTED WE USE ONLY HIS FIRST NAME, HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH UKRAINE'S INTERNATIONAL LEGION. HE FILMED THIS VIDEO AS THEY CAME UNDER ARTILLERY FIRE. HE'S NOW TEMPORARILY BACK IN THE U.S. >> THE ARTILLERY IS INCESSANT. UNDER THE RUSSIAN SIDE, IT IS

INDISCRIMINATE. THERE ARE CITIES THAT DON'T EXIST IN THE PRACTICAL SENSE OF THE WORD. THERE ARE NO SERVICES. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMPLETELY DESTROYED. NICK: YOU SERVED IN IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN WITH U.S. MILITARY. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? >> WE HAD SIGNIFICANT MATERIAL ASSETS. IN THIS CASE, THE TABLES WERE TURNED. IN THIS CASE, WE ARE OUTMANNED AND OUTGUNNED. NICK: WHY WILL YOU GO BACK? >> THE ATROCITIES AT THE LEVEL OF THIS REGARD FOR THE RULES OF WAR THAT I'VE SEEN THE RUSSIANS DO. I'VE BEEN INSPIRED BY THE COURAGE OF THE UKRAINIAN FORCES FOR NICK: UKRAINE ESTIMATES THAT WHAT THE RUSSIANS HAVE DONE WILL COST $750 BILLION TO RECONSTRUCT. THAT IS FIVE TIMES THE COUNTRY'S GDP AND ALSO THE GDP OF SWITZERLAND, WHERE THIS WEEK, EUROPEAN LEADERS PLEDGED TO HELP THE COUNTRY RECOVER. >> THEY WANT TO UNDERMINE UKRAINE'S VERY EXISTENCE AS A STATE.

WE CANNOT AND WE WILL NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN. NICK: TO DISCUSS THE STATE OF WAR IN UKRAINE, WE TURN TO MICHAEL KOFMAN, SENIOR FELLOW FOR RUSSIAN STUDIES AT CNA, THE CENTER FOR NAVAL ANALYSES. COULD YOU BACK ON THE PROGRAM. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANT OF RUSSIAN FORCES SEIZING ALL OF THE REGION? MICHAEL: NOW THAT THEY HAVE THE REST OF THE REGION, THEY ARE PART OF THE WAY TOWARDS THEIR OBJECTIVE WHICH IS SEIZING THE ENTIRE TERRITORY OF THE DONBASS. A LOT OF THE FIGHTING IS STILL AHEAD FOR THE RUSSIAN MILITARY. THEY CONDUCTED A WITHDRAWAL FROM THE AREA AND NOW BUILDING A NEW DEFENSIVE LINE. THEY WILL FORTIFY AROUND THE MAIN CITIES. AND SO, WHILE YOU COULD SAY THAT RUSSIA HAS MADE INCREMENTAL PROGRESS, IT IS STILL VERY FAR SHORT OF THEIR ACTUAL GOALS. NICK: SHORT-TERM, RUSSIA'S ABILITY TO SEIZE THOSE

TERRITORIES IN THE DONETSK REGION, WHY WILL IT BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO DO THAT JUST IN THE SHORT TERM? MICHAEL: ON THOSE AREAS ARE MORE FORTIFIED AND THE RSIAN MILITARY HAS TAKEN VERY SUBSTANTIAL LOSSES. THIS HAS BECOME A GRINDING WAR OF ATTRITION. TERRITORIAL GAINS TEND TO BE INCREMENTAL AT BEST. AND THEY REQUIRE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF USE OF ARTILLERY AND OTHER TYPES OF FIRE. I SUSPECT WE ARE GOING TO SEE BATTLES GRIND ON IN THE DONBASS FOR THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. THE OUTCOME IS INDETERMINATE. THESE THINGS ARE DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. EVEN IF THE RUSSIAN MILITARY IS ABLE TO TAKE THIS PART OF THE DONBASS, THESE SUCCESSES ARE NOT DECISIVE LOSSES FOR UKRAINE ULTIMATELY. THE RUSSIAN MILITARY IS LIKELY TO PAY A SUBSTANTIAL PRICE IN TRYING TO GAIN THOSE TERRITORIES. NICK: IT IS A WAR OF ATTRITION, THAT IS WHAT BOTH MILITARIES HAVE TO FIGHT. WHAT WILL DETERMINE RUSSIA'S

ABILITY TO SUSTAIN THAT FIGHT? MICHAEL: AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE WARS OFTEN COME DOWN TO MANPOWER, MATERIAL, WHOSE ABLE TO REPLACE THEIR LOSSES THE BEST, WHOSE ABLE TO ADJUST AND BUILD A FORCE THAT CAN SUSTAIN THE CONFLICT. BOTH SIDES HAVE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES. THE RUSSIAN MILITARY ENJOYS A LOCAL ADVANTAGE, PARTICULARLY FIREPOWER FOR ARTILLERY. THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY RIGHT NOW IS A BIT OF A VALLEY IN TERMS OF EQUIPMENT AND CAPABILITY. IT IS TRYING TO ASSIMILATE WESTERN EQUIPMENT, ARTILLERY, AND TRYING TO CHANGE THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND MUNITIONS THEY DEPEND ON. IT IS VERY CHALLENGING TIME FOR THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY, PROBABLY THE COMING TWO MONTHS IN PARTICULAR. THERE ARE SOME LONG-TERM ADVANTAGES THAT IS CONDITIONED ON SUSTAINED WESTERN SUPPORT, BECAUSE UKRAINE HAS THE MANPOWER AND HAS ACCESS TO WESTERN MILITARY EQUIPMENT AND TRAINING TO USE THAT EQUIPMENT. OVER TIME, IT COULD DEVELOP SIGNIFICANT ADVANTAGES.

NICK: UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS ARE TALKING ABOUT LAUNCHING COUNTEROFFENSIVE'S, USING THOSE HEAVIER WEAPONS YOU TALKED ABOUT. HOW WILL THOSE WEAPONS AFFECT UKRAINE'S ABILITY TO RE-SEIZE TERRITORIES THAT RUSSIA HAS OCCUPIED? MICHAEL: WESTERN MILITARY EQUIPMENT WILL HELP EQUALIZE THE CURRENT SUBSTANTIAL DISADVANTAGE THAT UKRAINE HAS RELATIVE TO THE MASS RUSSIAN ARTILLERY FIREPOWER. BOTH FORCES ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF LOCALIZED ATTACK UKRAINE HAS BEEN CONDUCTING SMALL LOCALIZED COUNTEROFFENSIVE'S IN OTHER PARTS OF THE FRONT, TRYING TO SET THEMSELVES UP IN A BETTER POSITION DOWN THE LINE. NEITHER MILITARY REALLY HAS THE FORCE CAPACITY LEFT FOR BIG OFFENSIVE OR BREAKOUT ATTACKS. NOR IS NEITHER MILITARY CLOSE TO COLLAPSE. OVER TIME, UKRAINE MAY BE IN A POSITION TO CONDUCT A SUBSTANTIAL COUNTEROFFENSIVE, PERHAPS IN ONE OF THE OTHER

REGIONS. BUT THAT DOES NOT JUST DEPEND ON MILITARY EQUIPMENT. PEOPLE TEND TO FIX THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY AND CAPABILITIES. THEN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. THEY ARE RARELY GAME CHANGERS. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF THE FORCE AND THE OVERALL MILITARY. NICK: DO YOU BELIEVE ON THE RUSSIAN SIDE, THEY CAN WAGE THE SAMEIND OF WAR THEY HAVE BEEN WAGING IN THE EAST INDEFINITELY? MICHAEL: INDEFINITELY IS A VERY HARD TEST TO PASS. I AM NOT SURE ANYTHING CAN BE WAGED INDEFINITELY BUT THE RUSSIAN MITARY IS PLAYING TO A SHRINK, LEVERAGING MASS ARTILLERY FIREPOWER WHICH MINIMIZES THE DIVISIVE VANTAGES -- THE DISADVANTAGES, AND TAKING TERRITORY INCREMENTALLY. THEY TOO HAVE BIG CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES TO MANPOWER. THE SUSTAINING OF THIS FIGHT, AND THE SOLUTIONS THEY HAVE TAKEN TO KEEP THE RUSSIAN MILITARY AND THE FIGHT AND WHAT IS LIKELY TO BE A PROTRACTED WAR HAVE THEIR OWN DRAWBACKS. THEY COME AT THE EXPENSE OF LONG-TERM DEGRADATION OF THE RUSSIAN FORCE.

THEY MAY NOT BE THAT SUSTAINABLE WHEN YOU PUT IT INTO A LONGER TIMELINE. NICK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MICHAEL: THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK ON THE PROGRAM. ♪ JUDY: THE WAR IN UKRAINE HAS FORCED MORE THAN FIVE MILLION REFUGEES TO FLEE TO OTHER PARTS OF EUROPE WITH MORE THAN 700,000 SEEKING REFUGE IN GERMANY. THE TANGIBLE SUFFERINGS OF THE WAR ASIDE, THERE IS A HIDDEN COST THEY HAVE TO BEAR, THAT OF TRAUMA. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE OF THE YOUNGEST REFUGEES. IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE GLOBAL HEALTH REPORTING CENTER, SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT WILL WINTERCROSS REPORTS FROM BERLIN. AND A WARNING -- THERE IS DISCUSSION OF SUICIDAL THOUGHTS IN THIS STORY. >> I HAVE NEVER FELT THIS WAY BEFORE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN A MONTH OR WHAT YOU WILL DO, WHERE YOU ARE TO GO. WILL: HE ESCAPED SOUTHERN

UKRAINE IN EARLY MARCH WHEN RUSSIAN TROOPS BEGAN BOMBING NEARBY. HE ARRIVED IN BERLIN AND WAS SENT TO A HOSTILE, CURRENTLY HOME TO 50 CHILDREN AND THEIR MOTHERS, ALL UKRAINIAN WAR REFUGEES. IT IS RUN BY AWO, A MAJOR GERMAN CHARITY WHICH HELPS THE CHILDREN FIND PLACES IN GERMAN SCHOOLS, AND CRITICALLY, GET PSYCHOLOGICAL SUPPORT. ONE EGG ROLLED -- EIGHT-YEAR-OLD FLED UKRAINE IN EARLY MARCH WHEN THE FIGHTING INTENSIFIED. >> WHEN THERE WERE EXPLOSIONS, WE SEALED THE WINDOWS WITH ADHESIVE TAPE SO THAT FRAGMENTS WOULD NOT HIT US. WILL: THIS 11-YEAR-OLD ALSO ESCAPED FROM THE WAR. >> THE THING I MISS MOST IN MY CITY RHT NOW IS MY DAD AND I REALLY MISS HIS LOVE AND CARE RIGHT NOW. >> I MISS MY HOME, MY DAD. I WAS VERY SAD HE HAD TO STAY BACK.

>> WHAT WOULD YOU DO NOW IF YOU SAW YOUR DAD? >> I WOULD HAVE TO CRY FROM JOY. IT'S LIKE MY COUNTRY. I HAVE A HALF A FEELING THAT IT WILL WIN AND HALF OF A FEELING THAT IT WON'T. >> AND IF IT DOESN'T WIN, HOW WILL YOU FEEL? WILL: RESEARCH SHOWS EXTENDED SEPARATION FROM A PARENT OR CAREGIVER IS ONE OF THE MOST STRESSFUL THINGS A CHILD CAN EXPERIENCE, AND OF COURSE, SO HIS WAR. STRESS IS ACCUMULATE. FOR THESE CHILDREN, THE IMPACT OF MENTAL, PHYSICAL AND POTENTIALLY LIFELONG. >> FROM RESEARCH, WE KNOW THAT THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS ARE REALLY BAD IF WE DON'T GET IMMEDIATE

HELP AT THE POINT AFTER TRAUMATIZATION. LONG-TERM EFFECTS CAN BE SLEEPING DISORDERS, DEPRESSION, ANXIETY, UP TO REALLY INTENSE FEELINGS OF SUICIDE OR EVEN SUICIDE ATTEMPTS. WILL: THIS HARM IS NOT INEVITABLE WITH THE RIGHT HELP. A 24 HOUR CRISIS HOTLINE ADDED UKRAINIAN SPEAKING COUNSELORS TO HELP THE NEWCOMERS >> WE EXTENDED OUR PLATFORM AND WORK WITH OUR NETWORK TOGETHER TO SET UP VERY QUICKLY CRISIS HELP FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE WAR IN UKRAINE. WILL: THE HOTLINE IS PART OF A BROADER GERMAN EFFORT TO HELP WHAT SOMETIMES SEEMS LIKE AN OVERWHELMING NUMBER OF NEW ARRIVALS. THIS RECEPTION CENTER IN BERLIN HAS PROCESSED OVER 300,000 UKRAINIAN REFUGEES SO FAR. A QUARTER OF THEM HAVE BEEN CHILDREN, MANY OF WHICH HAVE BEEN SUFFERING FROM SEVERE MENTAL TRAUMA.

BARBARA FROM THE MAIN CHARITY OF THE UKRAINIAN REFUGEES IN BERLIN CENTRAL STATION EXPLAINS THE INTEGRATION DOES NOT HAPPEN BY ITSELF. >> WE HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE. IT SHOWS THEM WE SEE YOU, WE ARE HERE FOR YOU. WE HAVE OPEN EARS, OPEN ARMS. WILL: SHE POINTS OUT INTEGRATION IS SO KEY TO HELPING VULNERABLE CHILDREN. >> SO THEY DON'T GET PRESSURE. THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO DO, THAT THEY FIND FRIENDS, MAYBE IF IT IS NOT FOR LONG, HOWEVER LONG THIS WAR MAY LAST, THEY SHOULD FEEL AT HOME. NOT BE AFRAID AND FEEL HOMESICK ALL THE TIME. >> IN THE SYRIAN CRISIS, GERMANY WAS VERY SLOW TO INTEGRATE THE CHILDREN INTO THE GERMAN SYSTEM OF SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE. NOW WE ARE MUCH MORE FAST AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE FAST TO INTEGRATE THE UKRAINIAN CHILDREN INTO THE NORMAL SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ALL EXPERIENCED TRAUMA. WILL: SHE ESCAPED SYRIA TO BERLIN AND WENT STRAIGHT INTO

THE GERMAN SCHOOL SYSTEM. >> WHAT WAS VERY WELL DONE WAS I WAS PUT INTO A WELCOME CLASS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO TEACH YOU GERMAN, INTEGRATE YOU INTO THE GERMAN SCHOOL SYSTEM. AND WE ALL GOT ALONG VERY WELL. IT IS MY HAPPIEST MEMORY, THAT FIRST YEAR IN GERMANY. WILL: SHE AND HER YOUNGER SISTER HAD THEIR HOME BOMBED IN AND WITNESS THEIR FATHER BEING ARRESTED BY THE SECRET POLICE. A FATE THAT OFTEN ENDS IN EXECUTION. THEIR FATHER SPENT 60 DAYS IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. >> I RELIES MY FATHER'S LAPTOP WAS ON THE BACKSEAT. I WAS 100% SURE THAT IF THEY FOUND THIS, THEN THEY WILL TAKE HIM FOR GOOD. SO, I WENT TO THE BACKSEAT AND I SAT ON THE LAPTOP, WHICH WAS IN A BAG. I TOLD JULIO TO SIT ON MY LAP SO THEY WOULDN'T SEE ANYTHING. WILL: JULIA DESCRIBES THE EFFECT

THIS HAD ON HER. >> AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS IN GERMANY, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ADAPT. SIMPLE THINGS COULD TRIGGER ME CRYING OR ME RUNNING AWAY FROM THINGS. WHEN I WOULD SEE PEOPLE WEARING MILITARY CLOTHING FOR EXAMPLE, OR IF PEOPLE SEEM TO SUSPICIOUS, I WOULD THINK THAT THE SECRET POLICE FOUND SOME SORT OF WAY TO TRAVEL TO GERMANY AND GET US. WILL: THE FEAR HAS NOT DISAPPEARED. >> THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT PROBABLY CAUSED ME TO FEEL OSTRACIZED D WANTING TO PUT UP A FIGHT EVERY TIME I SPOKE TO SOMEONE. CONSTANTLY TRYING NOT TO GET HURT. WILL: I RETURNED TO THE HOSTEL TO FIND OUT HOW THEY WERE GETTING ON. >> AS LONG AS I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, I FEEL VERY GOOD. WHEN I START THINKING ABOUT DAD, I FEEL VERY BAD. >> OF COURSE, IT IS GREAT I AM IN BERLIN, NOT IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW, UNDER BOMBARDMENTS IN A

BASEMENT. OF COURSE, THIS IS GREAT, BUT STILL IT IS REALLY HARD TO ADAPT. WILL: AS 2000 UKRAINIAN REFUGEES CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO GERMANY PER DAY, IT IS CLEAR THE AUTHORITIES HAVE THEIR WORK CUT OUT. AS FOR THE YOUNG RECENT ARRIVALS, IT IS A NEW HOUSE BUT NOT NECESSARILY A NEW HOME YET. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M WILL WINTERCROSS IN BERLIN. ♪ JUDY: THE CLASSIC AMERICAN MUSICAL "THE MUSIC MAN" HAS BEEN A BIG HIT THIS YEAR WITH ITS REVIVAL ON BROADWAY AND ON MANY REGIONAL AND LOCAL STAGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. JOHN YANG WENT TO SEE A NOVEL TAKE ON THE STANDARD AND HOW ART CAN BE A MODEL FOR A MORE-INCLUSIVE SOCIETY. A NOTE THAT AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETING WAS DONE SIMULTANEOUS TO THE INTERVIEW. THAT LIVE PROCESS MAY IMPACT THE

COMPLETE ACCURACY OF THE ENGLISH INTERPRETATION. THIS STORY IS PART OF OUR ARTS AND HEALTH COVERAGE ON CANVAS. JOHN: THE SPIRITED MUSICAL NUMBERS, THE SLY SCAM, THE MIDWESTERN AMERICANA, ALL THE FAMILIAR TOUCHES OF "THE MUSIC MAN" ARE ON DISPLAY IN THIS PRODUCTION AT THE OLNEY THEATER CENTER IN MARYLAND. BUT, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK. THIS ISN'T YOUR GRANDFATHER'S "RIVER CITY." IT'S ENVISIONED AS A PLACE WHERE THE DEAF AND HEARING COMMUNITIES LIVE SIDE BY SIDE, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO HEAR ISN'T A BARRIER. HALF THE CAST IS DEAF OR HARD OF HEARING. THERE WERE SEE-THROUGH COVID MASKS SO THE NON-HEARING ACTORS COULD READ LIPS AND FACIAL EXPRESSIONS. AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETERS WERE POSITIONED

ACROSS THE STAGE. THE SET WAS CREATED BY A DEAF DESIGNER WITH A MINIMUM OF STAIRS, SO DEAF ACTORS DON'T HAVE TAKE THEIR EYES OFF THEIR SIGNING CASTMATES. AND A SPECIAL LIGHTING SYSTEM LET THE NON-HEARING CAST MEMBERS KNOW WHEN THERE WAS A PROBLEM. >> THERE WILL BE A SUPERTITLE SCREEN SO IT WILL BE PARTICULLY HELPFUL TO THOSE IN THE BALCONY. JOHN: JASON LOEWITH IS IN HIS 10TH YEAR AS ARTISTIC DIRECTOR AT OLNEY, ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S LEADING REGIONAL THEATERS. HIS PHILOSOPHY? LET THE ART LEAD. >> THE WORDS ARE ALMOST NONSENSE. BUT LISTENING AND WATCHING THE WORDS BE TRANSLATED INTO ASL WAS REVELATORY. I THOUGHT, THIS IS A BRILLIANT NEW WAY TO EXPERIENCE THE MUSICAL. AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR DESIRE TO PROVIDE, CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT IS MORE INCLUSIVE BY DOING THEATER, THAT IS MORE INCLUSIVE. IT FELT LIKE THE SKY IS THE LIMIT. JOHN: HE WASN'T QUITE SO

ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO WHEN FIRST APPROACHED BY JAMES CAVERLY. >> IT WAS AKIN TO FRANKENSTEIN'S MONSTER PROACHING THE SCIENTIST AND SAYING, MAKE ME A NEW WIFE. RIGHT. SAME CONCEPT, I THINK, IN MY PITCH, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT. THE PITCH ITSELF WAS DIFFERENT. ♪ JOHN: DEAF FROM BIRTH, CAVERLY WAS WORKING AS A CARPENTER IN THE THEATER'S SCENERY SHOP. AFTER SEEING DEAF WEST THEATER'S PRODUCTION OF "SPRING AWAKENING" ON BROADWAY, HE WENT TO LOEWITH WITH AN IDEA. >> LET'S DO "THE MUSIC MAN." LET'S DO THIS. AND I DON'T THINK THAT HE WAS TOTALLY CONVINCED OF THE IDEA AT THE MOMENT. IT TOOK A FEW, MAYBE THREE ODD YEARS OF REALLY PURSUING IT TO CONVINCE HIM. HEY, HEY, HEY, "THE MUSIC MAN." HEY, DON'T FORGET "THE MUSIC MAN." JOHN: "THE MUSIC MAN" IS AN AMERICAN MUSICAL THEATER CLASSIC. IT TELLS THE STORY OF HAROLD HILL, A CHARMING TRAVELING

SALESMAN IN EARLY 20TH-CENTURY IOWA WHO DUPES TOWNSPEOPLE INTO BUYING INSTRUMENTS FOR A NONEXISTENT CHILDREN'S BAND. MARIAN PAROO, THE TOWN PIANO TEACHER AND LIBRARIAN, SEES THROUGH HIM IMMEDIATELY, BUT THEN BEGINS TO SEE ANOTHER SIDE OF HIM. BY THE TIME THE FINAL SONG IS SUNG, THEY'VE EACH BEEN TRANSFORMED BY LOVE. >> WHAT I REALLY WANTED WAS LET'S SHATTER THAT PERCEPTION THAT DISABLED PEOPLE CAN ONLY PLAY ROLES THAT ARE DESIGNED OR WRITTEN FOR DISABLED PEOPLE. THE WORLD THAT IS "RIVER CITY" AND "THE MUSIC MAN" IS A PERFECT CHOICE FOR THAT. JOHN: AFTER TESTING THE IDEA IN A 2019 WORKSHOP WITH A HEARING ACTOR AS HAROLD HILL, ANOTHER TWIST. WHAT IF HE WAS DEAF? >> SO, IF YOU COMPARE HAROLD HILL AS A DEAF PERSON OR AS A HEARING MAN, HE'S SELLING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS. THAT'S BELIEVABLE.

HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK ADDITIONALLY OR EXTRA HARD TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT HE COULD LEAD A MUSICAL BAND. NOW, A DEAF HAROLD HILL IS A DIFFERENT STORY. HE'S A GUY WHO REALLY HAS TO TURN IT UP, REALLY BECOME A CHARMER TO BE ABLE TO CONVINCE A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT, HEY, YOU SHOULD BUY THESE MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? I CAN LEAD A MUSICAL BAND, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT AMPLIFIES THE CHARACTER IN A WAY, AND YOU HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY INCREASE THAT ART OF DECEPTION. JOHN: SO IT MAKES HAROLD HILL NOT ONLY THE ULTIMATE CON MAN IN A WAY, BUT ALSO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE THE ULTIMATE SALESMAN OF DREAMS. >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. JOHN: CAVERLY, FRESH FROM HIS BREAKOUT ROLE IN HULU'S "ONLY MURDERS IN THE BUILDING," WAS CAST IN THE LEADING ROLE. ARTISTIC DIRECTOR LEOWITH ESTIMATES TH PRODUCTION IS COSTING ABOU40% MORE THAN A TRADITIONAL STAGING. AMONG THE ADDED EXPENSES, TH DOZEN SIGN LANGUAGE INTERPRETERS, A DIRECTOR OF

ARTISTIC SIGN LANGUAGE, OR "DASL." AND TWO DIRECTORS, ONE HEARING, ONE DEAF. THE DEAF DIRECTOR IS SANDRA MAE FRANK, A STAR OF THE 2016 BROADWAY REVIVAL OF "SPRING AWAKENING." SHE WANTED THIS STAGING TO BE DIFFERENT. >> I WANTED TO INCLUDE AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAG BUT I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE ANYTHING THAT I'D SEEN ' HAD DEAF AND HEARING MIXED PRODUCTIONS IN THE PAST, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY SHADOW HEARING INDIVIDUALS VOICING FOR DEAF INDIVIDUALS, SPEAKING THEIR LINES IN ENGLISH. AND ACTORS WOULD THEN SIM-COM, WHICH IS SPEAKING AND SIGNING AT THE SAME TIME, SPEAKING ENGLISH AND SIGNING AT THE SAME TIME. AND THAT'S VERY COMMONLY WHAT YOU SEE IN THE WORLD OF THEATER. AND WITH THIS, I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. JOHN: SO WHILE ALL MUSICAL NUMBERS ARE SUNG ALOUD, SOME SCENES WILL HAVE DIALOGUE ONLY IN SIGN LANGUAGE, WITH SUPERTITLES TO AID HEARING AUDIENCE MEMBERS. FOR FRANK AND DIRECTOR OF ARTISTIC SIGN LANGUAGE MICHELLE BANKS, WHO HAD THE JOB SAME FOR

THIS YEAR'S BROADWAY REVIVAL OF "FOR COLORED GIRLS WHO HAVE CONSIDERED SUICIDE/WHEN THE RAINBOW IS ENUF," IT'S THAT COMBINATION OF SIGNED AND SPOKEN WORDS TO TELL A STORY THAT IS BOTH GROUNDBREAKING AND PROMISING. >> THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE OFF. THIS IS NOT JUST FOR THE ARTS. THIS CAN BE A PART OF WHO WE ARE AS A HUMANITY, AS SOCIETY, THAT THIS IS HOW WE CAN INTERACT AND ENGAGE WITH EACH OTHER, TO LOOK AT ONE ANOTHER FULLY, COMPLETELY AS OUR INTERSECTION IDENTITIES PRESENT, HOW WE EACH NAVIGATE THE WORLD. THIS IS BEYOND THEATER. >> YOU HAVE TO ATTEND THE SHOW. YOU MAY NOT KNOW WHAT'S COMING NEXT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CONSTANTLY HAVE BE ATTUNED AND YOUR EYES, IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT TO ABSORB, RIGHT? YOUR EYES ARE A MUSCLE AND THEY MAY FEEL STRETCHED, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE EXPERIENCE SHOULD BE. JOHN: DO YOU HOPE DIRECTORS, ODUCERS AND CASTING DIRECTORS WILL TAKE SOMETHING AWAY FROM THIS TOO? >> ABSOLUTELY. MY HOPE IS THAT THROUGH THIS, THIS IS NOT THE LAST. ♪

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