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funding for this program has been provided by the station and other public television stations and by grants from exxon corporation allied chemical corporation and the corporation for public broadcasting weeks before meaning when they are recurring themes in american foreign policy is irritation with the allies and that has been an unusually prominent theme recently european members of the atlantic alliance and dismayed by some decisions coming from washington and the carter administration has been angered by the unwillingness of old allies to jump obediently into line the strings have been most acute between the united states and its tallest allies of all the french in recent weeks france has

rejected mr connors call for a boycott of the moscow olympics french president just understand what a sudden meeting with soviet president version of without consulting washington despite strong opposition in washington the french are now pushing for a new european initiative to get the palestinians and the middle east peace talks the carter administration thinks such a move will destroy what is left of the process began at camp david these differences have sent some unusually sharp words flying between washington and paris in particular between the new secretary of state edmund muskie and the french foreign minister john folse locals say the french minister had a three hour meeting with wisdom must be on friday and i talked with him over the weekend so tonight the strained alliance to monitor the impression seems to be growing perhaps half humorously and how seriously in the government and the press here that new french are being almost deliberately perverse it's a bit like the a baby and alison wonders wonderland who is accused of only doing it to annoy because

it knows its cheeses what do you think when you hear that sort of attitude the american press if i'd like to come back to the way you just summed up the situation if what to expect from us is still for in a billion today in line with whatever is decided all suggest i discover that i thank you and you can come to the conclusion that we are we don't look at the relations between the united states and between the united states and its european but as a class will next is there and we believe that there is a solidarity we recognize that their side historically room based on everything

that has happened between both our campus since the american revolution we have a feeling of deep feeling of gratitude for what the american people have done for us during the two world war after world war one with a much richer and i think or french movie that's niles kinds of bats europe has worn in in a bach know which is economically scientifically industrially liquidity against their wishes to be greeted so having this is one of our problems how we organize our nation that we equip how does the conservation develop in a way that is those at the second affordable option i think a lot of raw has become in that respect and i think this is the way of the un emotion objective way things should be and i'm not sure they always up with

in that way on the side of it i would do that washington is too emotional about the relationship i think sometimes there were his irritation halt does this patient on this side of the atlantic there's a number of this is publicly announce and then europe comply with those decisions if you know what we say there's a bit before you take those decisions that said wanted labor and see whether those decisions a proposition when they were to do that job is the united states or unreasonable given the new relative power situation between europe in this country is the united states and reasonable however to expect some show of

solidarity during moments of crisis to avoid embarrassing divergences know i wanted i don't know democrats want to view sign that in moments of tension all they think that it's day one of twins i think iran hostage issue which understand that you write the confederate that emotion this from what we understand and we came up from the very first minute and as long as his boss we've been back i would say that we've been in the virus sad development of the situation and that again and i had wanted to read as though your former sec of state cyrus vance thank him for

forty and that so we've been totally and in a state a sign that with the united states on this issue so have we and most other important age which does not mean that we have fallen in line with what we say was a wiccan be allied with all being alive we care and have a feeling in a sense the practice of solidarity we're going to move forward we say we say that the diversity within the western enormous of course of weakness is the calls right because the western world is it must be perceived as such by the rest of what this is one of it's got or hundreds when the irritation right now then is that that is the carter administration just misunderstands what the role of the modern world a country like france is

but they still feel it there the teacher in your the people in the classroom and shoot it down shut up as james reston recently put a lot harder get on with it i don't know what one gets david just in the way you do and i wouldn't i refer for procedures all of conservation the confidentiality which has to be preserved to make this possible has not been away the barman is not to working and i don't think we should make a lot more than that i don't know is this a situation sometimes it's sometimes fever they gave me that the media is making it now and i think there was some effort to be done to

develop the proper kind of relationship with well you say they've netted the consultation should be improved <unk> must be the new secretary of state after talking to you came back somewhat irritated two weeks ago and so there i was having consultation preached at me and i wish that the preacher had practiced what he preached because you didn't inform him of the time for president is about the ground seems to read that if i can i can enlist with the mosque khalid thinks that the timing this side the president he's warned informed president got this was done and this english teacher and being desired a bond between thousand german it doesn't just got called transition married and gone but soon they'll inform directed is is that this is what i was not in a position to

go to second and ask and so i was in that position that this was a man of course comes up a second but why did president he's got informed president got to shore even the pros who'd like and this was a the result of this is we felt that there should not be any public knowledge to fire head of the war showed me we knew because of the content i have had when we go into bars and i spend seven or eight hours of discussions with him i knew nothing practically would come out of the water a medium which does not mean that it was not useful and messes it was useless there was no practical

reason that was to be expected all the bills and that reason we thought announcing it ahead of time would develop expectation and this was not something we thought was use this is the reason why there was no advance announcement however president got there before this happened with us and for you mr mascari out buy that explanation you're meeting with him and i think you must ask leave this person's my feeling is that we can consider this as belonging to the bass and my personal relationship with the mascot came under six remake called human friendly openness was not washed up let's talk about the future and one of those areas you probably spend some time discussing with him last friday why is a european initiative in the middle east need it now you believe

in any disney then because of the situation in that part of the world is a tense situation there is violence in the west bank with the situation in that vibe i can buy which is the irs which is now in question has a curated shop and ireland and i hope to see our populations out in the jewish accepting to participate there was a few in the frost british or only are more walk to reside in this feeling really except density grand towards radicalization of the old regime and stability

in the horror in most from friends look towards you they see that the bus in the united states it does not take sufficient into account the interests and the rights of the arabs and the palestinians and they don't have a leaning towards the soviet union do you feel in france the us policy does want to sufficiently into account the interests of the palestinians well our feeling is that a certain number of elements all the palestinian situation have not yet been embedded in the american promise and we've seen that europe has a constructive role to play not too hot or not the power luckily against the american

league i have had i think everyone in this compromise realize oh standing relationship with them in their macho lose the uk than any kind of relationship you asked me or do you say when mr laski as i guess lisa do on friday points out look if you come in with a new initiative now it will destroy what's left of the camp david process they were less concerned the initiative which we win i think the day came as a i think because it is not for france to decide when i'm in the european union and the european union and ending that initiative when they can too the candidate then not aimed at making campaign or that thick and they are outside all the candidate what we're for and specifically be pressing

or eight community i was to be taken as an initiative of both this is something the nine of us would have to this and because we would be making proposition right before i wouldn't talk about and the date is promises of a community like to see and i'm sure many of them on coming to venice ca little of your native to stay the principle which we think should be the basis of a solution to want to roll groupies and then the question they come up in the united nations and we think that the nine or perhaps a common stock based on the old principles which hopefully will have understood that before i believe in the sport for that

political campaign between the early european ministers and that the responsible parties all the our age by which i mean not only helps the arab response osha at the israeli leadership and anything we would do would be better and it'd be quite today that the security of israel is just as important as the recognition of the rights of the palestine settlement of the nation on the one security really were on the other are the components of what we suggest that balance is what disturbs some people arrested notably the israelis who suspect that the balance a new kind of balance puts more emphasis on recognizing the legitimacy of palestinians books in particular the palestine liberation organization than the israelis would up to now accept is it your motive for very

simply and frankly to bring the plo in as the spokesman for the palestinians and get them into the negotiations we were given orders of identity theft that we believe it is this dog develop a negotiation towards a goal and you know other than his hero is one of the concerns back we're not wearing to say to that i just want to be an overt presence i think only free elections you know we have no democratic jewish but holder that can deny that piano is more all of the concern about this without which nor rain

nor a binding agreement on the ballast and would be negotiated and what is the sense of coming to know when if you know it is not going to be binding on one of the art of what is right or make concessions if it does not know what it gets in exchange of all sensitive subject or not it was that intention of your government to press your allies your community and fellow members for recognition of the plo as a negotiating party i've been launched all the european about those already agree that yellow is a concern but i really would have to present i think no one agrees that there's because is a fact in his own way of coming true and turn into afghanistan

another area gets produced some irritation and the french planter council of ministers cabinet said in a statement you didn't think boycotting the olympics was an appropriate way to respond to the soviet invasion of afghanistan was an inappropriate way only much to be said about i think my political life maybe we make too much outlaw the olympics were playing or of the headlights on something which is really a much robert the fact that the us so the question of using sports as a particular weapon is a different sensibility on both sides of it we know there's all that that one shift when they die quite a few

in the jaw all of national olympic committees in europe would decide control and that this would lead to conflict because having maybe a political issue although that creates that awkward situation where one doesn't know whether those who were in effect will the moscow though where you have a complacent attitude towards the advanced age of its making quite play was often we've all that wind but not in any way and all these soviet policies which we can that as long as is possible but i don't foresee that this would be as if you know he advised against using get a big amen the carter administration seem to have been moved by the analogy with the nineteen thirty six games from which hitler and the nazis extracted her

stooge and propaganda advantage are you not move by that same analogy i was a child in nineteen thirty six and i was living in berlin my father was the french ambassador john i remember those are very clearly marked for the most people you speak of and it is true that this was the case in nineteen thirty six by reading lloyd says size is more dangerous than his start an average more than that i would be nervous the may one gun i think that today the situation could have been an effort i think her voice is common

good and decide that that would be no official but really no national and nova this would have made and i'd play that sprawl is one thing and politics and on mixing bowl with a bow to create a confusing situation would have a they would have avoided if for boycotting the olympics isn't not an appropriate way what is an appropriate way to counter the soviet invasion of afghanistan having them must be a very firm stand on the bot not only on the west end they must be very careful and now russia is greg noack to over

western not the issue it is not less fish it's not make the basic mistake it there is to a certain extent to a large extent in this cell issue i'm a muslim woman and is vowing full to know what the muslim countries would do an acting with that is just a simple as taking this all will only that was that sort of being verified not only amongst wasn't conscious but in conjunction when the company's of the abbey with a rat what are the muslim town which means the starving about arresting and robert because this week and our relationship with the islamic world and weakens the front we must be in doubt you saw them and exercise bush on the soviet union didn't get the soviets from where that that will come up again and

do believe we should be the united states should be helping out but i think the this is as you may imagine that a good question which i've of the outcome or the television now but i would say that's a thing it is not quite clear that there is a national and an option movement of resistance against soviet intervention that's not speak about rebellion that speak about a national movement it was it's what i think should be treated as other similar movements have been treated in other parts of the industry and i was harmed

in justifying just under stern's visit there with the senate version of oh i you said that since afghanistan the world have been on a slide and implied that the situation is very dangerous in justifying the need to keep a dialogue open with the soviet union and what dangers does front seat where is that slide had it once at the bottom of that slide the whole but this flag has not stopped it would've guessed it began before and i don't think you karen understand afghanistan if you go read it in the backyard of what happened in africa for the five percent a year and when i pay your question and i'd be quite or been candid about seem to imply that france is it a cue is

weak right now some measures which the us thinks is appropriate in which we sort of quite well thought that we were buying them for five year as being a soviet cubans operation going on in africa as the only one party has reacted militarily against that country is far more subtle and we're less than a minute left for true story so i would just say that the racist know that slide needs to confrontation how can we avoid confrontation by combining i still hold firmly to me and i think i love you this and wash all and meeting between east and persian there was one element of the lessons i had a dialogue with nothing with seconds to minister for joining us that sort of

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public television stations and by grants from exxon corporation allied chemical corporation and the corporation for public broadcasting speaking korean israel's prime minister bag and today reshuffled his cabinet and beat off a parliamentary no confidence vote in the wake of the resignation of defense minister is a vitamin weitzman resigned from the cabinet on sunday in protest against veterans' hotline paula sale negotiations with egypt yesterday made forty six was the deadline set by the camp david accords for agreement on palestinian autonomy for those tortured