PBS NewsHour; December 14, 2021, 6:00pm-7:00pm PST

- JUDY: GOOD EVENING. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOU TONIGHT. - AFTER THE STORMS -- FAMILIES AND - BUSINESSES BEGIN PICKING UP THE - PIECES IN THE WAKE OF - DEVASTATING TORNADOES THAT LEFT - SCORES DEAD, INCLUDING SEVERAL - CHILDREN. - THEN. - INVESTIGATING THE INSURRECTION - -- TEXT MESSAGES FROM FORMER - PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CHIEF OF STAFF - PROVIDE MORE INSIGHT INTO THE - JANUARY 6TH ATTACK ON THE - CAPITOL. - AND. - CASUALTIES OF WAR -- NEW DETAILS - EMERGE ABOUT THE WIDESPREAD - DEATHS AND INJURIES CAUSED BY - U.S. AIR STRIKES IN AFGHANISTAN - AND SYRIA. - >> THE FACT THAT WE'VE SEEN - THOUSANDS OF THESE STRIKES, AND - WE SEE RECURRING PROBLEMS, - CREATES A QUESTIONS ABOUT, OK, - WHO REALLY SHOULD BE - ACCOUNTABLE? - JUDY: ALL THAT AND MORE ON - TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR. - ♪

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- THESE INSTITUTIONS AND - INDIVIDUALS. - ♪ - THIS PROGRAM WAS MADE POSSIBLE - BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC - BROADCASTING AND BY - CONTRIBUTIONS TO YOUR PBS - STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU, - THANK YOU. - JUDY: SEARCH TEAMS, UTILITY - CREWS AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE - SPENT ANOTHER LONG DAY IN THE - TORNADO WRECKAGE THAT WAS STREWN - ACROSS 5 STATES LAST WEEKEND. - THE CONFIRMED DEATH TOLL REMAINS - AT 88 -- MOST OF THEM IN WESTERN - KENTUCKY. - WILLIAM BRANGHAM IS THERE, AND - BEGINS OUR COVERAGE AGAIN

- TONIGHT. - WILLIAM: THE POWER IS STILL OUT - IN MUCH OF MAYFIELD, KENTUCKY. - SO VOLUNTEERS FOLD THE TIDE OF - CLOTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONATED - TO VICTIMS BY CANDLELIGHT. - TERESA ROCHETTI-CANTRELL WAS THE - MAYOR OF MAYFIELD FOR MANY YEARS - AND NOW WORKS AT THIS LOCAL - CHARITABLE FOUNDATION. - >> WE ARE STILL WRAPPING OUR - HEAD AROUND IT. - YOU KNOW, YOU STAND THERE -- I - STOOD THERE LAST NIGHT WHERE - CITY HALL WAS -- AND I'VE BEEN - UP THERE BEFORE. - >> WAS? - >> WAS, YEAH. - AND I LOOK ACROSS AND THERE™S - SUCH DEVASTATION, THAT YOU - CAN'T EVEN PICTURE WHAT WAS - THERE. - BUT GOING FORWARD, I CAN'T - HONESTLY WRAP MY HEAD AROUND - WHAT THE CHALLENGES ARE. - WILLIAM: ELSEWHERE IN MAYFIELD, - AT THE CANDLE FACTORY WHERE AT - LEAST 8 PEOPLE DIED, SEVERAL - FACTORY EMPLOYEES TOLD NBC NEWS - THAT THEY WANTED TO LEAVE BEFORE - THE TORNADOES ARRIVED, BUT SAID - SUPERVISORS THREATENED TO FIRE - THEM IF THEY DID. - THE OWNER OF THE FACTORY,

- MAYFIELD CONSUMER PRODUCTS, SAID - THAT WAS "ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE." - KENTUCKY GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR - SAID TODAY THEY'LL GET TO THE - BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED. - >> EVERYBODY'S EXPECTED TO LIVE - UP TO CERTAIN STANDARDS OF BOTH - THE LAW, OF SAFETY, AND OF BEING - DECENT HUMAN BEINGS. - I HOPE EVERYBODY LIVED UP TO - THOSE STANDARDS. - YOU CAN EXPECT A STATE AGENCY TO - BE TAKING A LOOK. - WILLIAM: MEANWHILE IN ILLINOIS, - OSHA -- THE FEDERAL OCCUPATIONAL - SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION - -- IS INVESTIGATING THE COLLAPSE - OF AN AMAZON WAREHOUSE IN - EDWARDSVILLE THAT KILLED SIX - PEOPLE. - OSHA WILL LOOK INTO WHETHER - WORKPLACE SAFETY RULES WERE - FOLLOWED. - IT WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS TO - COMPLETE THE INVESTIGATION. - PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS NOW DECLARED - A FEDERAL DISASTER IN THAT - STATE, AS WELL AS TENNESSEE. - BACK IN MAYFIELD -- - >> THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR RIGHT - HERE. - >> WHERE WAS YOUR OFFICE? - >> THAT CORNER RIGHT OVER THERE. - WILLIAM: LOCAL ATTORNEY CHUCK - FOSTER SET UP HIS LAW PRACTICE

- ON THIS DOWNTOWN CORNER 25 YEARS - AGO. - IT'S COMPLETELY GONE. - HE SAID A SMALL ARMY OF PEOPLE - KEEP SHOWING UP, HELPING HIM - CLEAN UP AND SORT THROUGH THE - WRECKAGE. - >> AT ONE TIME WE HAD 25 - VOLUNTEERS HERE MOVING STUFF - AROUND HERE, CLEANING STUFF UP. - WE HAD TWO OR THREE GROUPS COME - BY AND OFFER SANDWICHES AND - WATER. - SO, EVERYBODY CHIPPED IN AND - TRIED TO HELP OUT. - >> THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING. - >> IT IS. - KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF - PRIDE AND A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, - TO SEE EVERYBODY PICK UP AND TRY - TO HELP YOU OUT. - PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW -- I MET - A LOT OF PEOPLE YESTERDAY. - FOR THE FIRST TIME. - >> BRAND NEW FRIENDS. - >> OH YEAH. - WILLIAM: FORMER MAYOR - ROCHETTI-CANTRELL SAYS THE - OUTPOURING OF LOVE AND SUPPORT - AND DONATIONS ARE SO - APPRECIATED, BUT SHE'S WORRIED - ABOUT THE DEEPER, LONG-TERM - IMPACTS. - >> I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE - HUGE. - PEOPLE WHO WERE DOWN ON THEIR - LUCK TO START WITH.

- AND THEN THIS. - WRAPPING YOUR HEAD AROUND WHAT - HAS HAPPENED. - I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG - DEAL. - SOME OF THESE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW - HOW TO DO THAT AND ARE INCAPABLE - OF DOING THAT. - WILLIAM: ALL HE PAPERWORK, THE - BILLS, ALL THE LOANS, THE TAXES, - ALL THAT STUFF. - >> YEAH. - I PREDICT SUICIDES. - I DO. - I HATE TO THINK THAT. - THERE ARE JUST SOME PEOPLE THAT - CAN HANDLE THIS. - THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST - CANNOT MENTALLY HANDLE THIS. - AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE - DEALING WITH SOME OF THAT IN THE - COMING DAYS, MONTHS, YEARS. - WILLIAM: AS DAUNTING AS IT MAY - SEEM, THE CLEANUP AND REBUILDING - AFTER THIS DISASTER MAY BE THE - EASY PART. - THIS DEEPER TRAUMA THAT THE - FORMER MAYOR IS DESCRIBING -- - THAT COULD BE A SCAR THIS - TRAGEDY WILL LEAVE ON THIS - COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. - I'M WILLIAM BRANGHAM IN - MAYFIELD, KENTUCKY. - STEPHANIE: I'M STEPHANIE SY WITH - NEWSHOUR WEST, WE'LL RETURN TO

- THE FULL PROGRAM AFTER THE - LATEST HEADLINES. - A NEW DISASTER HAS STRUCK HAITI. - AT LEAST 60 PEOPLE WERE KILLED - AND DOZENS INJURED LATE MONDAY - WHEN A FUEL TRUCK OVERTURNED AND - EXPLODED. - IT HAPPENED IN THE NORTHERN CITY - OF CAP-HAITIEN, BURNING CARS AND - SCORCHING BUILDINGS. - THE MAYOR TOURED THE SCENE AS - DAYLIGHT SHOWED THE EXTENT OF - THE DESTRUCTION. - >> I'M HERE TO SEE THE AFTERMATH - OF LAST NIGHT'S UNFORTUNATE - EVENT. - I RECEIVED MANY CALLS AND SENT - THE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE AN - ALERT SO THEY COULD INTERVENE. - UNFORTUNATELY MANY PEOPLE DIED, - WE COULDN'T SAVE THEM. - STEPHANIE: HAITI HAS ALREADY - SEEN ITS PRESIDENT ASSASSINATED - THIS YEAR, AND AN EARTHQUAKE - THAT KILLED MORE THAN 2,200 - PEOPLE AND DESTROYED THOUSANDS - OF HOMES. - BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE U.S. - HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MOVED - TO ADVANCE CRIMINAL CONTEMPT - CHARGES AGAINST FORMER WHITE - HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MARK - MEADOWS. - HE'S REFUSED TO TESTIFYING ABOUT - THE ASSAULT ON THE U.S. CAPITOL

- LAST JANUARY. - THE U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL - DECIDE WHETHER TO PROSECUTE - MEADOWS. - WE'LL RETURN TO THIS, AFTER THE - NEWS SUMMARY. - CONGRESS IS ALSO ON THE VERGE OF - RAISING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S - DEBT LIMIT BY $2.5 TRILLION. - IT PASSED THE SENATE THIS - AFTERNOON, 50 TO 49 -- WITH NO - REPUBLICAN SUPPORT -- AND WENT - TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. - THE U.S. TREASURY HAD SET - TOMORROW AS THE DEADLINE FOR - ACTION. - AS OF TONIGHT, THE U.S. DEATH - TOLL FROM COVID 19 HAS TOPPED - 800,000. - 200,000 OF THOSE LIVES WERE LOST - AFTER THE VACCINE BECAME - AVAILABLE A YEAR AGO. - 5 MILLION AROUND THE WORLD HAVE - DIED OF THE VIRUS. - NEW DATA TODAY SUGGESTS PFIZER'S - COVID VACCINE IS 70% EFFECTIVE - IN PREVENTING HOSPITALIZATIONS - FROM THE OMICRON VARIANT. - FINDINGS FROM SOUTH AFRICA ALSO - INDICATE THE 2-DOSE VACCINE IS - LESS EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING - OMICRON INFECTIONS. - MEANWHILE, THE WORLD HEALTH - ORGANIZATION WARNED TODAY THAT

- OMICRON IS SPREADING FASTER THAN - PREVIOUS VARIANTS. - >> SURELY WE HAVE LEARNED BY NOW - THAT WE UNDERESTIMATE THIS VIRUS - AT OUR PERIL. - EVEN IF OMICRON DOES CAUSE LESS - SEVERE DISEASE, THE SHEER NUMBER - OF CASES COULD ONCE AGAIN - OVERWHELM UNPREPARED HEALTH - SYSTEMS. - STEPHANIE: ALSO TODAY -- - PFIZER REPORTED ITS EXPERIMENTAL - COVID TREATMENT PILL WORKS - AGAINST OMICRON -- REDUCING - SEVERE SYMPTOMS IN HIGH-RISK - ADULTS WHO BECOME INFECTED, BY - NEARLY 90 PERCENT. - A FEDERAL APPEALS COURT HAS - AGAIN REJECTED PRESIDENT BIDEN'S - ATTEMPTS TO END A POLICY KEEPING - ASYLUM SEEKERS IN MEXICO. - THE LATEST RULING CAME MONDAY - NIGHT. - A TRUMP-ERA POLICY HAS REQUIRED - THOUSANDS OF MIGRANTS TO REMAIN - IN MEXICO, UNTIL THEIR U.S. - ASYLUM CASES ARE RESOLVED. - THERE'S NEW EVIDENCE THAT THE - ARCTIC IS GETTING HOTTER. - THE U.N. WEATHER AGENCY - CERTIFIED TODAY THAT

- TEMPERATURES REACHED 100.4 - DEGREES IN SIBERIA LAST YEAR -- - THE HIGHEST EVER RECORDED IN THE - ARCTIC. - AND, THE U.S. NATIONAL OCEANIC - AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION - REPORTED THAT GROWING ICE MELTS - ARE ALTERING ECOSYSTEMS. - THE MAYOR OF SAN FRANCISCO - LONDON BREED HAS ANNOUNCED PLANS - TO COMBAT CRIME, INCLUDING AN - EMERGENCY INTERVENTION PLAN TO - INCREASE POLICING IN THE - TENDERLOIN DISTRICT, WHICH IS - PLAGUED WITH CRIMINAL DRUG - ACTIVITY. - SHE ANNOUNCED THE INITIATIVES - AFTER MEETING WITH FAMILIES - AFFECTED BY CRIME AND SAID WHILE - THE NEW PROPOSALS MAY DRAW - CRITICISM, THE CITY IS QUOTE-- - PAST THE POINT WHERE WHAT WE SEE - IS EVEN REMOTELY ACCEPTABLE. - AND TONIGHT, A NEW NBA RECORD -- - GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS STAR GUARD - STEPH CURRY NOW HOLDS THE - LEAGUE'S CAREER 3-POINT RECORD. - CURRY HIT HIS 2,974TH THREE - AGAINST THE NEW YORK KNICKS THIS - EVENING, BREAKING THE RECORD SET - BY RAY ALLEN IN 2011. - STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR.

- NEW DETAILS ON CIVILIAN - CASUALTIES OVERSEAS WROUGHT BY - U.S. AIRSTRIKES. - POLITICAL GRIDLOCK IN WASHINGTON - HAMSTRINGS THE DIPLOMATIC - PRESENCE ABROAD. - A FOOD BLOGGER TURNED SOCIAL - MEDIA CELEBRITY MIXES KOREAN - RECIPES WITH PERSONAL HISTORY. - PLUS MUCH MORE. - >> THIS IS "PBS NEWSHOUR WEST" - FROM - WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON - AND FROM OUR BUREAU AT THE - WALTER CRONKITE - SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA - STATE UNIVERSITY. - JUDY: AS WE REPORTED EARLIER, - THE U.S. HOUSE OF - REPRESENTATIVES TODAY TOOK UP A - CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS CHARGE - AGAINST MARK MEADOWS -- THE - FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF - STAFF. - THIS COMES AFTER MEADOWS DEFIED - A SUBPOENA FROM THE SELECT - COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE - JANUARY 6 ATTACK ON THE CAPITOL. - LISA DESJARDINS BEGINS OUR - COVERAGE. - LISA: ON THE HOUSE FLOOR TODAY, - YET ANOTHER RARITY.

- >> JUST A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO - SOMEHOW THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE - LAW. - LISA: DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN - JAMIE RASKIN AND OTHER - INVESTIGATORS ARGUED FOR A - CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS CHARGE FOR - A SECOND VERY HIGH-PROFILE TRUMP - ADVISOR, MARK MEADOWS, THE - FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF TO - PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHO JUST TWO - YEARS AGO WAS HIMSELF A HOUSE - MEMBER. - ON JANUARY 6, AS ATTACKERS - SMASHED THEIR WAY INTO THE - CAPITOL, MEADOWS WAS AT THE - WHITE HOUSE WITH TRUMP, MAKING - HIM A PIVOTAL HUB OF - INFORMATION. - NOW, HE IS A FLASHPOINT OVER THE - PUSH FOR HIS TESTIMONY AND TRUMP - ALLIES' INSISTENCE IT IS - POLITICAL. - >> MARK MEADOWS HAS TO TESTIFY. - LIKE 300 AMERICAN CITIZENS HAVE - PATRIOTICALLY UNLAWFULLY DONE. - WHAT MAKES THEM SPECIAL? - THE FACT THAT HE KNOWS A FORMER - PRESIDENT? - I'M AFRAID NOT. - >> THE MEMBERS OF THE JANUARY 6 - COMMISSION HAVE TURNED THIS BODY - INTO A STAR CHAMBER USING THE

- POWERS OF CONGRESS TO PERSECUTE - AND BANKRUPT THEIR POLITICAL - OPPONENTS. - LISA: THE BACK-AND-FORTH IS - COLICATED. - MEADOWS DID TURN OVER 6600 PAGES - OF EMAILS AND AROUND 2000 TEXT - MESSAGES. - NOTABLY, HE ALSO SENT SO-CALLED - PRIVILEGE LOGS, ENUMERATING - HUREDS MORE DOCUMENTS WHICH HE - CLAIMED COULD NOT BE SHARED - BECAUSE OF SEPARATION OF POWER. - THEN HE DID NOT SHOW UP FOR A - DEPOSITION LAST WEEK. - >> WHATEVER LEGACY HE THOUGHT HE - LEFT IN THE HOUSE, THIS IS HIS - LEGACY NOW. - LISA: LAST NIGHT, THE SELECT - COMMITTEE ALSO READ SOME OF THE - MEADOWS TEXTS OUT LOUD. - >> DONALD TRUMP, JR. TEXTED, - AGAIN AND AGAIN, URGING ACTION - BY THE PRESIDENT. - WE NEED AN OVAL OFFICE ADDRESS, - HE HAS TO LEAVE NOW, IT HAS GONE - TOO FAR, AND GOTTEN OUT OF HAND. - LISA: THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO ASK - MEADOWS ABOUT AN EMAIL IN WHICH

- HE WROTE THAT ON JANUARY 6, THE - NATIONAL GUARD WOULD PROTECT - PRO-TRUMP PEOPLE. - MEADOWS RESPONDED LAST NIGHT TO - ALL OF THIS ON FOX NEWS. - >> LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS, - THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME HOLDING ME - IN CONTEMPT, IT IS NOT ABOUT - MAKING THE CAPITOL SAFER, THIS - IS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AND - ACTUALLY GOING AFTER HIM ONCE - AGAIN. - LISA: MEADOWS AND TRUMP ARE BOTH - SUING THE SELECT COMMITTEE OVER - ITS REQUESTS.JUDGES - HAVE SO-CALLED RULED AGAINST - TRUMP. - SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADER MITCH - MCCONNELL, WHO BLOCKED A - BIPARTISAN COMMISSION, BUT HAS - BLASTED TRUMP FOR JANUARY 6, HAD - NOTABLY OPEN WORDS. - >> I DO THINK WE ARE ALL - WATCHING WHAT IS UNFOLDING ON - THE HOUSE SIDE AND IT WILL BE - INTERESTING TO REVEAL ALL OF THE - PARTICIPANTS WHO WERE INVOLVED. - LISA: ALL THIS AS THE ATTORNEY - GENERAL FOR THE DISTRICT OF - COLUMBIA ANNOUNCED A LAWSUIT - SEEKING CIVIL FINES FOR - INDIVIDUALS AND TWO GROUPS, THE

- PROUD BOYS AND THE OATH KEEPERS, - FOR THEIR ROLES IN THE CAPITOL - ATTACK. - JUDY: MEADOWS' REFUSAL TO - COOPERATE AND THE COMMITTEE'S - RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD HIM IN - CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS RAISE - QUESTIONS ABOUT EXECUTIVE - PRIVILEGE AND ABOUT WHAT - INFORMATION THE COMMITTEE IS - OWED. - FOR SOME ANSWERS, WE TURN TO - JONATHAN SHAUB. HE IS A - PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF - KENTUCKY COLLEGE OF LAW AND A - CONTRIBUTING EDITOR AT LAWFARE. - HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED IN THE - OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL AT THE - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. - BEFORE I COME TO YOU, I WANT TO - CLARIFY, I SAID THE ISSUE WAS - TAKEN UP IN THE SENATE -- IT WAS - IN THE HOUSE. - THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE, OF - COURSE. - LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT MR. - MEADOWS. - HE IS YET ANOTHER WITNESS WHO - WON'T TESTIFY BEFORE THIS HOUSE - SELECT COMMITTEE, BUT THEY HAVE - RECEIVED DOCUMENTS, THEY HAVE - RECEIVED SOME INFORMATION. - IS THE COMMITTEE BEING STYMIED - OR ARE THEY MAKING PROGRESS? - >> I THINK THEY ARE BEING

- STYMIED WITH RESPECT TO THE - INFORMATION THAT MEADOWS HAS - THAT MAYBE NOBODY ELSE HAS ABOUT - WHAT WAS GOING ON THAT DAY IN - THE WHITE HOUSE, WHAT WAS - PRESIDENT TRUMP DOING. - MEADOWS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE - ONLY SOURCES FROM WHOM THEY - COULD GET THAT INFORMATION. - BUT THEY HAVE A TON OF OTHER - INFORMATION. - THEY REVEALED YESTERDAY THEY HAD - INTERVIEWED OVER 300 WITNESSES. - THEY HAVE A TON OF DOCUMENTS, - INCLUDING SOME FROM MEADOWS - HIMSELF. - IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WILL BE ABLE - TO PIECE TOGETHER WHAT HAPPENED - OR WHAT WAS GOING ON FOR THE - MOST PART, BUT I DO THINK THERE - ARE PROBABLY CERTAIN PIECES OF - INFORMATION RELATING - SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT WAS - HAPPENING IN THE WHITE HOUSE - THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET - AS LONG AS MEADOWS AND OTHERS - WHO MAY HAVE THAT INFORMATION - CONTINUE TO REFUSE TO PROVIDE - IT. - JUDY: WHEN MARK MEADOWS' - ATTORNEY TALKS ABOUT EXECUTIVE - PRIVILEGE REFERRING TO PRESIDENT - TRUMP, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT - MEAN AND HOW AND WHERE WOULD IT

- APPLY IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS? - >> EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE HAS A - LONG HISTORY AND IT IS GENERALLY - THE DOCTRINE THAT THE PRESIDENT - HAS THE AUTHORITY TO WITHHOLD - INFORMATION IF THE DISCLOSURE OF - THAT INFORMATION WOULD HARM THE - PUBLIC INTEREST, THAT THE - PRESIDENT DETERMINES THAT. - IT IS A POWER BELONGING TO THE - PRESIDENT PARTICULARLY INVOKED - FOR PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS, FOR - NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION, - ATTORNEY-CLIENT INFORMATION. - SO HERE WE HAVE A FORMER - PRESIDENT WHO IS ASSERTING IT. - THE BIDEN WHITE HOUSE HAS SAID - CLEARLY THERE IS NO PRIVILEGE - CLAIM HERE. - THE EVENTS OF JANUARY 6 ARE - EXTRAORDINARY, THE COMMITTEE HAS - A NEED FOR THEM, SO WE ARE NOT - GOING TO EXERT PRIVILEGE. - PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SUED TO - CONTEST THAT DETERMINATION AND - SO FAR HE HAS LOST IN THE D.C. - CIRCUIT AND HE HAS A CHANCE TO - APPEAL TO THE SUPREME COURT. - GENERALLY, IT IS A PRESIDENTIAL - AUTHORITY SO IT IS HARD TO SEE

- WHY A FORMER PRESIDENT WOULD GET - TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ABOUT - WHAT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST, - AS OPPOSED TO THE PRESIDENT - CURRENTLY SERVING. - JUDY: THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING - TO UNDERSTAND, WHETHER THIS - CLAIM IS GOING TO HOLD UP IN - COURT. - >> WELL, SO ONCE YOU GO TO - CONTEMPT, MEADOWS WILL DEFEND - HIMSELF AND HIS LAWYER HAS - ALREADY DONE THIS BY SAYING THAT - EVEN IF I'M INCORRECT ABOUT - PRIVILEGE, I WAS OPERATING IN - GOOD FAITH. - THE COMMITTEE REALLY IS NO - LONGER GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET - INFORMATION FROM MEADOWS. - HE IS SUBJECT TO CRIMINAL - PROSECUTION, BUT THAT ONE TAKE - PLACE FOR POTENTIALLY A YEAR OR - SEVERAL MONTHS, SO IT IS - UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL GET - MEADOWS TO COOPERATE ONCE THEY - HAVE HELD HIM IN CONTEMPT. - I THINK THEY HAVE BASICALLY - SAID, WE'VE GOT AS MUCH - INFORMATION, HE HAS ADOPTED THE - TOTAL DEFIANCE STANCE, SO WE - WILL REFER HIM TO CONTEMPT OF - CONGRESS AND USE HIM AS AN - EXAMPLE TO OTHER WITNESSES. - JUDY: AS YOU LOOK AT THE BIG

- PICTURE OF WHAT THE SELECT - COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO GET, THEY - ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM - OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT IS - STANDING IN THEIR WAY MAINLY AND - WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WORKING IN - THEIR FAVOR? - >> I THINK THE FACT THAT THE - DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE MOVED - FORWARD WITH A PROSECUTION OF - STEVE BANNON SHOWS THAT THERE - ARE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES TO - DEFYING THE COMMITTEE'S - SUBPOENAS. - IF THEY INDICT MARK MEADOWS, - THAT WOULD BE FURTHER EVIDENCE, - BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE - GOVERNMENT. - IF HE COULD BE PROSECUTED, THAT - WILL SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE TO - OTHER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. - I THINK THEY WILL PROBABLY BE - ABLE TO GET A LOT OF INFORMATION - ABOUT THE DAY AND RECONSTRUCT - WHAT WAS HAPPENING GOING UP TO - JANUARY 6 AND ON THE DAY ITSELF, - BUT I DO THINK THEY PROBABLY - WON'T BE ABLE TO FORCE PEOPLE - WHO REMAIN LOYAL TO PRESIDENT - TRUMP TO COMPLY. - JUDY: MEANING THAT THEY WILL BE - ABLE TO CLAIM EXECUTIVE - PRIVILEGE AND HOLD OUT FOR - COURTS TO RULE IN THEIR FAVOR.

- >> YES, THEY WILL CITE EXECUTIVE - PRILEGE AND DEFEND THEMSELVES - IN A CRIMINAL PROSECUTION, BUT - EVEN IF THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO - PURSUE A CIVIL ACTION, IT TAKES - TIME. - THE CHAIRMAN HAS SAID THEY - WANTED TO BE COMPLETED BY - SPRING, OR AT THE VERY LATEST - THE END OF 2022. - I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT COURT - RESOLUTION OF ISSUES INVOLVING - EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE WOULD OCCUR - BEFORE THAT TIMEFRAME. - JUDY: STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS - OUT THERE ABOUT WHAT THE - COMMITTEE WILL BE ABLE TO GET. - THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. - JUDY: DURING LAST NIGHT'S - HEARING, COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR, - REPRESENTATIVE LIZ CHENEY READ - TEXT MESSAGES SENT TO MARK - MEADOWS ON JANUARY 6TH FROM SOME - OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CLOSEST - ALLIES. - THE TEXT MESSAGES SHOWED CONCERN - AND AN URGENT REQUEST TO THE - PRESIDENT TO STOP THE SIEGE ON - THE CAPITOL. - SOME OF THOSE ALLIES INCLUDED - KEY FOX NEWS PERSONALITIES, LIKE

- SEAN HANNITY AND LAURA INGRAHAM, - WHO LATER THAT DAY, HOWEVER, - SUGGESTED THE CROWD WAS NOT MADE - UP OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS. - >> MARK, THE PRESIDENT NEEDS TO - TELL THE PEOPLE IN THE CAPITOL - TO GO HOME, THIS IS HURTING L - OF US. - HE IS DESTROYING HIS LEGACY, - LAURA INGRAHAM WROTE. - >> EARLIER TODAY THE CAPITOL WAS - UNDER SIEGE BY PEOPLE WHO CAN - ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS - ANTITHETICAL TO THE MAGA - MOVEMENT, NOW THEY WERE LIKELY - NOT ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND - THERE ARE SOME REPORTS THAT - ANTIFA SYMPATHIZERS MAY HAVE - BEEN SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT THE - CROWD. - WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT LATER. - JUDY: TO TALK US THROUGH THE - ROLE FOX NEWS PLAYS IN ALL OF - THIS, I'M JOINED BY NPR MEDIA - CORRESPONDENT DAVID FOLKENFLIK. - WELCOME BACK TO THE NEWSHOUR. - AS YOU LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT - THESE TEXT MESSAGES AND WHAT - THESE FOX NEWS ANCHORS SET IN - THE AFTERMATH, WHAT DOES IT ALL

- ADD UP TO? - >> IT TELLS YOU THE CENTRAL ROLE - THAT FOX NEWS PLAYED THROUGHOUT - THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY. - IT TELLS YOU THAT THEY DON'T SEE - ANY DISTINCTION BETWEEN ADVISING - THE PRESIDENT AND CHAMPIONING - HIS REPUTATION, IS STANDING, HIS - AIMS, AND GOALS FROM THEIR OWN - SUPPOSEDLY JOURNALISTIC - ENDEAVORS. - THEY MAY BE OPINION HOSTS, BUT - IF YOU WORK FOR A NEWS - ORGANIZATION, YOU ARE SUPPOSED - TO ACKNOWLEDGE FACTS THAT GO - CONTRARY TO YOUR ROOTING - INTEREST. - THEY SEEM TO HAVE DONE NONE OF - THAT. - AND IT ALSO TELLS YOU THAT THEY - KNOW. - THEY KNEW THAT THIS WAS A - PROBLEM. - THEY KNEW THIS WAS SERIOUS. - THEY KNEW THIS REPRESENTED A - CRISIS, A VIOLENT CHALLENGE TO - THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER - THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE - CEREMONIALLY CERTIFIED THAT DAY. - IT TELLS YOU THEY WERE - NONETHELESS WILLING TO SAY

- SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT TO THE - VIEWERS WHO RELY ON THEM ON A - DAILY BASIS. - TELLS YOU THEY DON'T SEE THEIR - LOYALTY TO THE TRUTH. - THEY DON'T SEE THEIR LOYALTY TO - THEIR VIEWERS' NEED TO - UNDERSTAND THE FACTS AS THEY - ARE, BUT TO PERHAPS SERVE THEIR - APPETITES IN A POLITICAL - ROOTING. - IT IS A VERY DIFFERENT - JOURNALISTIC MISSION THEN YOU - AND I AM BRACED. - I DON'T THINK IT IS A - JOURNALISTIC MISSION AT ALL. - JUDY: WE HAVE KNOWN THEY HAVE - SPOKEN FAVORABLY OF FORMER - PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR YEARS, BUT - DOES THIS TAKE IT TO A DIFFERENT - LEVEL, DO YOU THINK? - >> I MEAN, IT SHOWS YOU HOW - THERE IS NO MEMBRANE SEPARATING - FOX NEWS AND ITS PRIME TIMELINE - ABOUT POLITICAL OPINION STARS - FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP'S CLOSEST - CIRCLE OF ADVISORS. - SEAN HANNITY WAS AN ADVISOR FROM - THE OUTSET OF THE CANDIDACY. - LAURA INGRAHAM, TUCKER CARLSEN, - WHO DOES NOT APPEAR IN THIS - PARTICULAR ROSTER OF TEXT

- MESSAGES HAS SENT TO MARK - MEADOWS. - NONETHELESS, IT SHARPENS THE - DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW - THAT FOX NEWS STARS NO WHEN THEY - ARE PURVEYING CONSPIRACY - THEORIES SUPPORTING THE - PRESIDENT'S MOST OUTLANDISH - CLAIMS AND AMPLIFYING, - PROJECTING, AND EMBRACING LIES - THAT ARE CORROSIVE TO AMERICAN'' - UNDERSTANDING TO THEIR OWN CIVIL - SOCIETY. - THAT THEY KNOW BETTER. - THEY TURNED TO THE CHIEF OF - STAFF BECAUSE HE WAS THE PERSON - BEST SITUATED TO TRY TO DEFUSE - THIS TENSE AND VIOLENT SITUATION - EVEN AS HOURS LATER LAURA - INGRAHAM AND OTHERS BLAMED - ANTIFA, BLAMING SOMEHOW THAT - THERE MIGHT BE DEEP STATE PLANTS - OF FBI INFORMANTS FOR WHICH - THERE HAS BEEN NO CREDIBLE PROOF - IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY. - WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS A QUESTION - OF FOX NEWS HAVING THAT WORD - NEWS APPENDED TO ITS NAME, BUT - NOT OPERATING LIKE A NEWS - OUTLET.

- YES, THEY ARE STARTING MORE THAN - 24 HOURS AFTER THIS WAS RELEASED - BY LIZ CHENEY TO ADDRESS THIS IN - THEIR OWN COVERAGE ON THE NEWS - SIDE AND SEAN HANNITY TALKED A - BIT ABOUT IT ON HIS RADIO SHOW - TODAY, BUT NOT IN A WAY THAT - KEEPS FAITH WITH THE VIEWERS AN - AUDIENCE TO SAY THE TRUTH COMES - FIRST, EVEN WHEN IT CUTS AGAINST - WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN. - JUDY: WHY DOES IT MATTER? - IT IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT FROM - THE KIND OF JOURNALISM WE DO AT - THE NEWSHOUR AND THE OTHER - JOURNALISTIC ORGANIZATIONS WE - ARE FAMILIAR WITH. - BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER? - WE KNOW WE ARE IN AN ERA OF - OPINION. - THERE IS A LOT OF OPINION OUT - THERE IN NEWS COVERAGE, NEWS - REPORTING. - WHAT EFFECT DO SOMETHING LIKE - THIS HAVE, DO YOU THINK? - >> FOX HAS ALWAYS PLAYED AN - OUTSIZED ROLE IN REPUBLICAN - POLITICS, INCREASING OVER THE - YEARS EVER SINCE ITS FOUNDING IN - 1996 UNDER RUPERT MURDOCH AND

- ROGER AILES. - RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE SOMETHING - LIKE 3/5 OF REGISTERED - REPUBLICANS OR SO CLAIM THAT - THEY BELIEVE THAT JOE BIDEN WON - THE ELECTION FRAUDULENTLY, WHICH - IS NOT TRUE. - DISPROVEN IN COUNTLESS WAYS. - AND THE REASON THEY DO THAT IS - BECAUSE AN ECHO CHAMBER IS - PROVIDED BY FOX NEWS AND ITS - LESSER PEERS AND GIVES - AMPLIFICATION AND BALLAST TO NOT - ONLY IN FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP - AND THOSE AROUND HIM AND THOSE - WHO SEEK TO RIDE HIS COATTAILS - TO POWER AND OFFICE BY HAVING - THEM SAY, THIS IS A MESSAGE THAT - WILL WORK FOR US, THEREFORE WE - WILL LIE ABOUT THINGS, MISLEAD - THE PUBLIC, RAISE CONCERNS, AND - DENY, DEFLECT, DISMISS, OR - DENOUNCE CLAIMS OF ANY - INVOLVEMENT OF PEOPLE IN THE - TRUMP CIRCLE OR PEOPLE WITH - LOYALTY TO PRESIDENT TRUMP OR - SUPPORT FOR HIM WITH WHAT - HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6. - AT THE SAME TIME AS THEY CLAIM

- WHAT HAPPENED JANUARY 6 IS NOT - MEANINGFUL AND CLAIMING IT WAS A - TERRIBLE HOAX PERPETRATED BY - PEOPLE IN THE DEEP STATE OR - ANTIFA. - JUDY: DAVID, THANK YOU VERY - MUCH. - >> YOU BET. - JUDY: IN THE AFTERMATH OF LAST - FRIDAY'S DEADLY TORNADO - OUTBREAK, FEDERAL EMERGENCY - OFFICIALS SAY THEY ARE BRACING - FOR MORE SEVERE AND MORE - FREQUENT WEATHER DISASTERS. - AS JOHN YANG REPORTS, THAT IS - RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER - THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN CLIMATE - CHANGE AND TORNADOES. - JOHN: JUDY, WHILE SCIENTISTS ARE - CONFIDENT THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS - DRIVING AN INCREASE IN SOME - NATURAL DISASTERS, IN THE CASE - OF TORNADOES, THEY SAY IT IS A - BIT TRICKIER. - VICTOR GENSINI IS AN ASSOCIATE

- PROFESSOR OF GEOGRAPHIC AND - ATMOSPHERIC SCIENCES AT NORTHERN - ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY. - THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH - US. - SO MANY SUPERLATIVES BEING USED - TO DESCRIBE THIS TORNADO - OUTBREAK FRIDAY NIGHT. - HELP US PUT THIS INTO - PERSPECTIVE. - HOW MAJOR OF AN EVENT WAS THIS? - >> IT IS VERY LIKELY TO BE - HISTORIC. - THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IS - STILL SURVEYING THE LONGEST - TORNADO THAT STARTED NORTH OF - LITTLE ROCK, CROSSED INTO THE - BOOT HEEL OF MISSOURI, AND - NORTHWEST TENNESSEE, AND FINALLY - INTO KENTUCKY WHERE IT DID ITS - MOST PROLIFIC DAMAGE. - WE THINK THE TOMATO HAS A PATH - LENGTH SOMEWHERE NEAR 250 MILES. - THAT WOULD PUT IT IN FIRST PLACE - IS THE MOST HISTORIC TORNADO - PATH LENGTH IN HISTORY, ONLY TO - SURPASS THE INFAMOUS TRI-STATE - TORNADO OF MARCH 8, 1985. - JOHN: TO PUT THAT INTO - PERSPECTIVE, A TORNADO TRACK IS - GENERALLY, A LONG ONE COULD BE - 50 MILES.

- TORNADOES GENERALLY LOSE THEIR - ENERGY PRETTY QUICKLY. - >> MOST TORNADOES ARE UNDER FIVE - MILES. - IT IS PRETTY HARD TO GET A - TORNADO 50 MILES, LET ALONE ONE - THAT WAS ON THE GROUND FOR 200 - MILES. - AS I WAS WATCHING THIS TORNADO - UNFOLD, I HAD A PIT IN MY - STOMACH WATCHING RADAR. - I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS - HAPPENING AT THE SURFACE AND IT - WAS A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE - SELL SOME OF THOSE DEVASTATING - PICTURES. - JOHN: HELP US UNDERSTAND, WHAT - DO WE KNOW AND WHAT DO WE NOT - KNOW ABOUT THE LINK BETWEEN - CLIMATE CHANGE AND TORNADOES? - >> RIGHT NOW, THE LINK IS STILL - MUDDY. - STUDIES HAVE SHOWN A MEAN - INCREASE IN OVERALL SEVERE - WEATHER IN THE FUTURE, BUT ALSO - AN INCREASE IN THE VARIABILITY. - I THINK THE BEST ANALOGY RIGHT - NOW IS HONESTLY MAJOR LEAGUE - BASEBALL DURING THE STEROIDS - ERA. - WE COULD NOT SAY FOR CERTAIN IF - A HOMERUN WAS DUE TO STEROIDS, - BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BATTING - AVERAGES AND THE NUMBER OF HOME - RUNS OVER THE SEASON, IT BECOMES - PRETTY CLEAR STEROIDS WAS HAVING - AN IMPACT DURING THE SEASON.

- I THINK THE SAME THING CAN BE - SAID ABOUT TORNADOES. - WE ARE JUST NOT SURE RIGHT NOW - IS SOMETHING LIKE FRIDAY EVENING - WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF CLIMATE - CHANGE. - JOHN: WHY DON'T WE KNOW YET? - >> IT IS MOSTLY DUE TO THE - SMALL-SCALE. - TORNADOES ARE AT A VERY SMALL - SCALE RELATIVE TO THINGS LIKE - HURRICANES OR WILDFIRES OR - DROUGHT. - THAT LINK WHEN YOU START TO GO - DOWN REALLY SMALL TO THE STORM - SCALE VERSUS THE LARGE CLITE - SCALE SYSTEM MAKES THESE TYPES - OF QUESTIONS VERY HARD TO UNPACK - FROM A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE. - JOHN: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT - LOOKING BACKWARD, WHAT CHANGES - HAVE WE SEEN IN TORNADOES IN - RECENT YEARS? - >> GREAT QUESTION, REALLY THE - ONLY THING WE CAN HANG OUR HAT - ON IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT - DOWNWARD TREND IN THE GREAT - PLANES OF THE UNITED STATES. - YOU THINK OF TEXAS, OKLAHOMA, - KANSAS, YOUR COLLOQUIAL TORNADO - ALLEY. - THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT - INCREASE IN THE MIDSOUTH LIKE

- KENTUCKY, MISSOURI, TENNESSEE, - MISSISSIPPI, ALABAMA. - SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT HAVE - BEEN HIT HARD RECENTLY. - I THINK THAT IS A REALLY - IMPORTANT THING. - WE HAVE A LOT MORE ASSETS, A LOT - MORE PEOPLE EAST OF THE - MISSISSIPPI RIVER DUE TO THE - INCREASED POPULATION DENSITY. - JOHN: ANY IDEA WHAT THAT - SUGGESTS WHY THAT MIGHT BE, THAT - SHIFT? - >> WE THINK IT IS PARTLY DUE TO - CLIMATE CHANGE AND PARTLY DUE TO - NATURAL VARIABILITY. - TO WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT SHIFT - IS BEING CAUSED BY CLIMATE - CHANGE, THESE ARE QUESTIONS THAT - ARE REALLY GOOD AND THAT - RESEARCH GROUPS LIKE US ARE - STILL TRYING TO UNPACK. - JOHN: WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS - FOR THE FUTURE FROM YOUR - RESEARCH ON WHAT YOU ARE - LEARNING FROM YOUR RESEARCH? - >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO THINGS. - WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE - FUTURE HOLDS FOR THESE EXTREME - EVENTS, LIKE THOSE OF FRIDAY - EVENING. - ON THE FLIPSIDE, WE WANT TO - UNDERSTAND THE CHANGING - FOOTPRINT OF SOCIETY.

- BOTH OF THOSE GO HAND-IN-HAND IN - UNDERSTANDING THE FUTURE OF - TORNADO DISASTERS LIKE WHAT WE - WITNESSED LAST WEEK. - LOOKING AHEAD EVEN HERE - TOMORROW, IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER - SIGNIFICANT VEER WHETHER -- - SEVERE WEATHER EVENT POSSIBLE. - IT ONLY TAKES ONE EVENT TO MAKE - YOUR DAY A VERY BAD DAY AND I - THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT OF - QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT - THAT AMAZON AWARENESS AND THAT - CANDLE FACTORY. - JOHN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANKS, JOHN. - ♪ - JUDY: THE U.S. MILITARY HAS BEEN - FACING QUESTIONS THIS WEEK OVER - HOW IT CONDUCTS AIRSTRIKES, AND - WHETHER IT IS DOING ENOUGH TO - PREVENT KILLING CIVILIANS, AND - TO REPORT THOSE CASUALTIES WHEN - IT DOES. - NICK SCHIFRIN EXPLAINS. - NICK: THE LAST KNOWN AIRSTRIKE - OF 20 YEARS OF WAR CONDUCTED

- BEFORE U.S. TROOPS LEFT - AFGHANISTAN DID NOT KILL ITS - INTENDED ISIS TARGET. - INSTEAD, A DRONE MISSILE KILLED - 10 CIVILIANS, INCLUDING 7 - CHILDREN. - YESTERDAY THE PENTAGON SAID IT - WILL CHANGE PROCEDURES, BUT - WOULD NOT DISCIPLINE ANY TROOPS - FOR THE STRIKE IN KABUL. - >> WHAT WE SAW HERE WAS A - BREAKDOWN IN PROCESS AND - EXECUTION AND PROCEDURAL -- NOT - THE RESULT OF NEGLIGENCE, NOT - THE RESULT OF MISCONDUCT, NOT - THE RESULT OF POOR LEADERSHIP. - THERE WAS NOT A STRONG ENOUGH - CASE TO BE MADE FOR PERSONAL - ACCOUNTABILITY. - NICK: SECRETARY OF DEFENSE LLOYD - AUSTIN ENDORSED THAT MOVE BASED - ON A RECOMMENDATION FROM TWO - GROUPS--THE COMMANDERS OF - CENTRAL COMMAND, WHOSE - RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE - AFGHANISTAN AND SYRIA, AND - SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND, - WHOSE PERSONNEL ORDERED MANY OF - THOSE AIRSTRIKES. - IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS I HAVE - ASKED BOTH COMMANDERS WHETHER - THESE INCIDENTS EXPOSE - STRUCTURAL ISSUES, INCLUDING IN - HOW SERVICE MEMBERS CALL IN AIR - STRIKES. - BOTH SAID NO. - ARE THEY TOO QUICK TO CALL AND

- AIRSTRIKES? - >> CATEGORICALLY NO. - THERE IS STRUCTURE IN PLACE WITH - COMMANDERS THAT TAKE IT BY A - STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS. - YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHERE THE - POTENTIAL -- WHAT THE POTENTIAL - STRIKE IS. - YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE - OF EFFECTS YOU ARE TRYING TO - ACHIEVE, WHAT TYPES OF MUNITIONS - YOU ARE GOING TO USE. - >> WE'VE GONE TO ELABORATE - LENGTHS TO PREVENT CIVILIAN - CASUALTIES. I CANNOT TELL YOU IN - EVERY CASE THAT WE HAVE BEEN - ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. I CAN - TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE KNOW ABOUT - IT, WHEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY - TO TO LEARN THAT CIVILIAN - CASUALTIES MAY HAVE OCCURRED, - MAY HAVE OCCURRED, WE DO - INVESTIGATE IT. - NICK: YOUR RESPONSE DOES NOT - SOUND LIKE YOU THINK THAT THERE - IS SOME KIND OF SYSTEMIC - PROBLEM, WHETHER IT'S A CLIMATE - OR WHETHER IT'S SPECIAL - OPERATORS CALLING IN AIRSTRIKES? - >> COMBAT AND PARTICULARLY CLOSE - INFANTRY COMBAT AS OCCURS IN A - LOT OF THESE THINGS, IS AN - INHERENTLY MESSY, IMPRECISE, - BLOODY BUSINESS. - AND WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE - ANISEPTIC, WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT - TO BE PERFECT. IT OFTEN IS JUST - NOT GOING TO REACH THOSE

- STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE. - NICK: THERE WAS ANOTHER INCIDENT - ON DECEMBER 3, WHEN A DRONE OVER - SYRIA TARGETED AN AL QAEDA - COMMANDER. THE MILITARY SAYS IT - KILLED HIM, BUT ACKNOWLEDGES IT - ALSO KILLED CIVILIANS. - A FAMILY POSTED THIS VIDEO OF - THE STRIKE AS IT HIT, AND TOLD - US IN AN INTERVIEW, THEY WERE - INNOCENT VICTIMS. - >> MY SONS HEAD WAS ROGAN. - MY WIFE'S LEG WAS BROKEN. - ALL OF US WERE INJURED IN FULL - OF BLOOD. - WE WENT FROM HAPPINESS TO - DEVASTATION. - >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO - WITH THE PEOPLE IN POWER AND HAD - WE KNOWN THAT WAS A MOTORCADE IN - FRONT OF US FOR SOMEONE THAT WAS - IN A POWERFUL POSITION WE - WOULDN'T HAVE DRIVEN BEHIND IT. - NICK: TO DISCUSS THESE INCIDENTS - AND THE LARGER QUESTIONS OF - CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, I'M JOINED - BY LARRY LEWIS. - HE IS THE STATE DEPARTMENT - SENIOR ADVISOR ON CIVILIAN - PROTECTION AND IS THE RESEARCH - DIRECTOR FOR THE CENTER OF NAVAL - ANALYSES CMA. - WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE - MILITARY NOT HOLDING ANYONE

- ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DRONE STRIKE - IN KABUL? - >> IT IS NOT SURPRISING. - WE OFTEN SEE A LACK OF - ACCOUNTABILITY IN DISCIPLINE FOR - THE STRIKES, BUT IN MY MIND, - THERE IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION. - NOT ONLY HOLDING INDIVIDUALS - ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE INVOLVED - IN THAT STRIKE, BUT THE FACT - THAT WE HAVE SEEN THOUSANDS OF - THESE STRIKES AND WE SEE - RECURRING PROBLEMS, THAT CREATES - A QUESTION ABOUT, WHO REALLY - SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE? - NOT NECESSARILY THE TRIGGER - PULLERS, BUT THE SENIOR LEADERS - THAT HAVE OVERSEEN THESE - PROCESSES THAT HAVE THE SYSTEMIC - PROBLEM'S. - >> YOU PUBLISHED AN ESSAY IN - WHICH YOU WROTE THAT THE COUPLE - DRONE STRIKE WAS NOT AN ISOLATED - MISTAKE, BUT PART OF A SYSTEMIC - PATTERN AND YOU CALL IT - NEGLIGENCE. - WHY? - >> NEGLIGENCE IS DEFINED AS A - LACK OF CARE. - THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE. - ANALYZING THOUSANDS OF STRIKES, - LITERALLY THOUSANDS, I HAVE SEEN

- THE SAME PATTERN OVER AND OVER - AGAIN. - NICK: AND YET YOU HAVE HEARD THE - MILITARY SAY AGAIN AND AGAIN - THAT THEY DO CARE AND YOU JUST - HEARD THE CENTRAL COMMAND - COMMANDER IN THE SPECIAL - OPERATIONS COMMANDER SAY THAT - THERE ARE STRUCTURES IN PLACE - AND THEY HAVE GONE TO ELABORATE - LENGTHS TO PREVENT CIVILIAN - CASUALTIES, SUCH THAT THERE ARE - NO SYSTEMIC ISSUES CAUSING THESE - INCIDENTS. - YOU DISAGREE. - >> I DO DISAGREE. - WHAT IS THE DATA SAYING? - THE U.S. MILITARY HAS PROCESSES - IN PLACE, THEY HAVE AN - INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE. - THE PROBLEM IS THAT - INFRASTRUCTURE HAS FLAWS. - THERE ARE A NUMBER OF IMPLICIT - ASSUMPTIONS AND A NUMBER OF - SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS THATEAKEN - THE CARE THAT THEY GIVE. - NICK: IN ALL OF THOSE STUDIES - YOU HAVE DONE, ARE THERE - SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THAT ARE - PARTICULARLY INDICATIVE? - >> A PROMINENT AIRSTRIKE IN

- AFGHANISTAN IN 2010 WHERE THERE - WERE SPECIAL FORCES ON THE - GROUND AND THEY KNEW THERE WERE - ENEMY COMBATANT FORCES OUT THERE - , SO THEY KIND OF LOOKED OUT - WITH THEIR DRONE AND FOUND THE - NEAREST THING ALONG THAT LINE OF - BEARING. - IT WAS THREE VEHICLES. - THEY FOLLOW THE THREE VEHICLES. - THEY STRUCK IT WITH AIRPOWER AND - IT WAS THREE CIVILIAN VEHICLES - AND DOZENS WERE KILLED. - NICK: DO YOU BELIEVE THERE ARE - LESSONS THE MILITARY HAVE - IDENTIFIED, BUT NOT LEARNED? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - THE MILITARY SEEMS TO HAVE - AMNESIA BECAUSE WE HAVE - IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF THESE - PROBLEMS BEFORE, BUT THEN THEY - DON'T STICK. - IN THE DRONE STRIKE, THERE WERE - A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS. - THERE WERE CIVILIANS RIGHT - OUTSIDE OF THE FRAME. - WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS STEP BACK - AND SAY, HAVE THINGS CHANGED - RIGHT BEFORE I MAKE THIS - ENGAGEMENT DECISION? - NICK: DO YOU THINK THIS IS A

- QUESTION OF LEADERSHIP? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER AND OVER - AGAIN IS WHEN SENIOR LEADERS ARE - VERY CLEAR ABOUT PROTECTING - CIVILIANS BEING PART OF THEIR - MISSION AND SOMETHING THEY ARE - WATCHING AND PRIORITIZING, WE - SEE IMPROVEMENT. - WHEN THERE IS NOT THAT CLEAR - MESSAGE FROM THE TOP, THEN WE - SEE BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE BEEN - SEEING THE LAST FEW YEARS. - NICK: I WANT TO ASK ABOUT A NEW - YORK TIMES REPORT, THAT DURING - THE HEIGHT OF THE WAR AGAINST - ISIS, SOMEONE CIRCUMVENTED - RULES. - YOU HAVE WORKED WITH THE SPECIAL - OPERATORS FOR YEARS. - DO YOU BELIEVE THAT DURING THE - HEIGHT OF THE WORK ON ISIS THEY - CIRCUMVENTED THE RULES? - >> I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THAT - UNIT FOR QUITE A WHILE AND I - HAVE SEEN QUITE DIFFERENT - BEHAVIOR OVER THE YEARS. - THERE ARE TIMES WHERE THE CARE - WAS NOT AS GREAT AND I WOULD - INCLUDE SYRIA IN THAT PART. - I'VE ALSO SEEN TIMES WHERE THEY

- TOOK GREAT CARE. - THE DIFFERENCE WAS THEY HAD - COMMAND EMPHASIS THAT SAID THIS - IS IMPORTANT AND WHEN THAT - EMPHASIS WAS THERE, THEY DID A - FABULOUS JOB. - NICK: WHAT PRACTICAL STEPS DO - YOU URGE THE MILITARY TO TAKE? - >> IT HAS TO START WITH - LEADERSHIP. - THERE IS NO LEADERSHIP ON THIS - ISSUE. - IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE - NO RESOURCES. - IF WE ARE GOING TO FIX THIS - PROBLEM, WE ARE NOT GOING TO - HAVE AMNESIA. - WE HAVE TO DEVOTE RESOURCES AND - WE HAVE TO HAVE LEADERS THAT ARE - COMMITTED TO ACTUALLY SOLVING - THESE PROBLEMS. - NICK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. - JUDY: NEARLY ONE YEAR INTO - OFFICE, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION

- IS STILL LACKING AMBASSADORS IN - KEY PARTS OF THE WORLD, - INCLUDING INDIA AND PAKISTAN. - THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS - COMMITTEE CONSIDERED CANDIDATES - FOR THOSE TWO POSTS TODAY, - MARKING A STEP FORWARD AND WHAT - HAS BEEN A PAINSTAKINGLY SLOW - PROCESS TO FILL U.S. EMBASSIES. - MORE ON WHAT THIS MEANS FOR U.S. - DIPLOMACY. - AMNA: OF THE 80 AMBASSADORIAL - NOMINEES PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS PUT - FORWARD, THE SENATE HAS - CONFIRMED JUST 12. - THE SECRETARY OF STATE BLAMED A - SLOW SENATE CONFIRMATION - PROCESS. - >> AS OF LAST WEEK, ONLY 16% OF - OUR AMBASSADORS HAVE BEEN - CONFIRMED. - AT THIS POINT IN THE LAST THREE - ADMINISTRATIONS, THE NUMBER WAS - BETWEEN 70% AND 90%. - AMNA: FOR MORE, I'M JOINED BY - THE FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO - BULGARIA AND NOW PRESIDENT OF - THE AMERICAN FOREIGN SERVICE - ASSOCIATION. - WELCOME TO THE NEWSHOUR. - TO FILL THESE AMBASSADOR POSTS, - TWO THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN.

- THE PRESIDENT HAS TO NOMINATE - PEOPLE, THE SENATE HAS TO - CONFIRM THEM. - WHERE IS THE BACKUP? - >> BOTH OF THOSE PROBLEMS ARE - REALLY REAL. - THE BIGGEST BACKUP IS THAT WE - HAVE BLANKET HOLDS IN THE - SENATE, THAT MEANS THAT ALMOST - ALL OF THE NOMINEES HAVE BEEN - BLOCKED FROM BEING CONSIDERED ON - THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE. - THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE - TO ANYONE'S KNOWLEDGE. - THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN SLOW - TO NOMINATE CANDIDATES, SO WE - STILL HAVE ABOUT ONE THIRD OF - THE JOBS WITHOUT NOMINEES. - BUT THAT TOGETHER AND WE HAVE AN - ASTONISHING NUMBER OF VACANT - AMBASSADORIAL POSTS AROUND THE - WORLD. - AMNA: LET'S START WITH THE - ADMINISTRATION. - WHY HAVE THEY BEEN SO SLOW? - >> IT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND WE - HAVE BEEN ASKING THAT QUESTION. - PART OF IT MAY BE HOLDING BACK - NOMINEES BECAUSE THEY ALREADY - HAVE SUCH A BACKLOG IN THE - SENATE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO - ADD TO IT. - I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE - ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE THINK

- THEY SHOULD NOMINATE EVERY - CANDIDATE THEY HAVE TO GET THEM - ON THE TABLE SO THAT THE WORLD - KNOWS WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT - GETTING AMBASSADORS TO OUR - EMBASSIES AROUND THE WORLD. - AMNA: IS A MORE EXTREME OR - INTENSE VETTING PROCESS ANY PART - OF THIS? - FORMER MAYOR ERIC GARCETTI IS - FACING TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT - CONCERNS OVER CONFLICT OF - INTEREST AND ONE OF HIS TOP - AIDES FACING ALLEGATIONS OF - SEXUAL HARASSMENT BY A LOS - ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT - OFFICER. - IS IT HARDER TODAY TO FIND GOOD - NOMINEES TO PUT FORWARD? - >> I THINK THE VETTING PROCESS - HAS GOTTEN MORE COMPLICATED. - I CAN'T COMMENT ON INDIVIDUAL - NOMINEES, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT - FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN - CONFIRMED BEFORE THE HOPE IS - THAT THEY COULD BE CONFIRMED - MORE QUICKLY THE SECOND, THIRD, - FOURTH TIME. - IN REALITY, IT IS LIKE STARTING - FROM SCRATCH EVERY TIME. - AMNA: WHAT WORRIES YOU ABOUT A - LOT OF THESE POSTS NOT BEING - FILLED?

- >> WE NEED AMBASSADORS IN THE - FIELD TO HAVE THEM REPRESENTING - OUR COUNTRY, REPRESENTING THE - PRESIDENT. - WHEN AN AMBASSADOR IS CONFIRMED - BY THE PRESIDENT -- SENATE, THAT - PERSON GOES OUT WITH THE SUPPORT - OF THE PRESIDENT AND THE SENATE. - THAT IS POWERFUL AND HAS A LOT - OF STRENGTH FOR EVERYBODY WHO IS - INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. - IF YOU ARE A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT, - YOU KNOW THIS PERSON REPRESENTS - TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT. - THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF DIPLOMACY - TO DO IN THE WORLD. - WE ARE REALLY TYING BOTH OUR - HANDS BEHIND OUR BACK. - AMNA: LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT SOME - OF THOSE BLOCKS AND HOLDS ON THE - NOMINATIONS FROM THE SENATE. - THERE IS A NOTABLE ONE FROM - SENATOR MARCO RUBIO. - AT THE FOREFRONT OF A LOT OF THE - REPUBLICAN PUSHBACK ARE TWO - SENATORS, JOSH HAWLEY AND TED - CRUZ.

- JOSH HAWLEY'S CONCERNS ARE THAT - HE WANTS TO SEE SECRETARY - BLINKEN RESIGN AFTER THE - AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL. - AND TED CRUZ WANTS TO SEE - SANCTIONS AGAINST A NATURAL GAS - PIPELINE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND - GERMANY. - THEY ARE NOT OBJECTING TO THE - QUALIFICATIONS OF THE NOMINEES. - I WONDER HOW USUAL THAT IS IN - THE PROCESS. - >> THAT IS ACTUALLY THE - STRONGEST ARGUMENT FOR MOVING - FORWARD IS OBVIOUSLY SENATORS - HAVE POLICY CONCERNS, THAT IS - THE WHOLE REASON THE SENATE HAS - THE RIGHT OF ADVICE AND CONSENT - ON NOMINEES. - INDIVIDUAL HOLDS HAVE ALWAYS - BEEN PART OF THE PROCESS. - IT IS THIS CONCEPT OF SAYING - NOBODY IS GOING TO BE CONFIRMED, - THAT WE WILL NOT SEND ANYONE - OUT, WERE -- OR THERE ARE A FEW - PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED, - BUT AS SECRETARY BLINKEN SAID - THE NUMBERS ARE UNPRECEDENTEDLY - LOW. - OUR ARGUMENT IS NOT WITH ANY - SPECIFIC CONCERNS AND WE DON'T - GET INTO POLICY ISSUES, WE JUST - THINK THAT AMERICA NEEDS STRONG

- DIPLOMACY AND REPRESENTATION - OVERSEAS AND TO DO THAT, WE - CAN'TO FILL OUR AMBASSADORS - SHIP'S. - NO OTHER COUNTRY DOES THIS. - THE DAYS WHEN AMERICA COULD - SIMPLY ASSUME THAT WHATEVER - PECULIARITIES THAT WE HAVE IN - OUR PROCESS WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD - AND ACCEPTED BY THE REST OF THE - WORLD, I THINK THOSE DAYS ARE - PAST. - WE NEED TO GET OUR GAME UP AND - GET AMBASSADORS UP TO THE FIELD - AS SOON AS WE CAN. - JUDY: THAT IS THE FORMER - AMBASSADOR TO BULGARIA AND - PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN - FOREIGN SERVICE ASSOCIATION. - THANKS FOR MAKING THE TIME TO BE - WITH US. - >> PLEASURE TO BE HERE. - JUDY: DURING THIS HOLIDAY SEASON - AS PEOPLE SPEND MORE TIME IN THE - KITCHEN, WE LOOK AT A TWIST IN - CUISINE THAT HAS TAKEN SOCIAL - MEDIA BY STORM. - JEFFREY BROWN EXPLOITS --

- EXPLORES THE MAGIC BEHIND THE - KOREAN VEGAN. - TAUGHT ME HOW TO TIE MY SHOESO- - AND SWING WHILE STANDING UP, WHO - TAUGHT ME THIS RECIPE I'M MAKING - RIGHT NOW. - >> IT IS NOT YOUTYPICAL - COOKING TUTORIAL. - THE KOREAN VEGAN DOES OFFER UP - EXQUISITE DISHES. - BUT HER POPULAR SPECIALTY, - STORYTIME VIDEOS THAT HAVE - ATTRACTED NEARLY 4 MILLION - FOLLOWERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. - >> I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT - VEHICLE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF - INSIGHT IN WHAT I HOPE IS A VERY - PALATABLE WAY, IF YOU WILL, - ABOUT THE IMMIGRANT STORY IN THE - UNITED STATES. - I THINK IT IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY. - I THINK IT IS ONE THAT HOPEFULLY - CAN BE CELEBRATED. - >> HER STORIES TELL OF HER

- GRANDMOTHER'S HARROWING ESCAPE - FROM WHAT WOULD SOON BECOME - NORTH KOREA. - >> MY MOM MADE IT VERY CLEAR - THAT SHE WAS EMBARRASSED ABOUT - CERTAIN ASPECTS OF HER CULTURE. - >> THE END OF HER OWN EXPERIENCE - GROWING UP IN AMERICA, WHERE - FAMILIES CULTURE AND FOOD WERE - NOT ALWAYS ACCEPTED. - WE JOINED HER FOR SHOPPING AT A - MANHATTAN KOREAN GROCERY CHAIN. - SHE IS NOT A TRAINED CHEF. - SHE IS AN ATTORNEY WORKING - FULL-TIME UNTIL VERY RECENTLY - FOR A HIGH-POWERED CHICAGO FIRM. - BUT HER LIFE CNGED WHEN SHE - MET AND MARRIED ANTHONY, WHO - CONVINCED HER TO GO VEGAN IN - 2016. - SHE DECIDED TO ADAPT THE FOOD - SHE HAD GROWN UP WITH. - SOCIAL MEDIA, INSTAGRAAND THEN - TIKTOK, BECAME HER WAY TO REACH - PEOPLE WITH HER NEW PASSION. - >> I DIDN'T SEE HOW SOCIAL MEDIA - COULD BE USED TO BRING PEOPLE - TOGETHER AND THAT IS THE POINT - OF THE KOREAN VEGAN. - BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, - BRINGING FAMILIES TOGETHER, - BRINGING COLLEAGUES TOGETHER,

- OVER SOME REALLY DELICIOUS FOOD. - >> NOW, SHE HAS COLLECTED HER - STORIES AND RECIPES INTO HER - FIRST COOK BOOK, THE KOREAN - VEGAN. - ALL PLANT-BASED. - EVEN SHE WAS UNCERTAIN IN THE - BEGINNING. - >> I WAS VERY SKEPTICAL. - CAN YOU EVEN BE VEGAN AND KOREAN - AT THE SAME TIME? - >> IT IS A REAL QUESTION. - >> IF I CAN'T EAT KOREAN FOOD - AND BE PLANT-BASED AT THE SAME - TIME, THAN IT IS NOT A CHOICE. - THE QUESTION I SET OUT TO ANSWER - WHEN I STARTED COOKING MORE WAS - IS THERE A WAY TO ADJUST THE - INGREDIENTS, THE RECIPES SO THEY - STILL TASTE LIKE THE FOOD I GREW - UP EATING, BUT DON'T HAVE ANY - ANIMAL PRODUCTS IN IT? - THAT IS REALLY HAVE IT ALL - STARTED. - I'M CHOPPING UP SOME CARROTS - RIGHT NOW TO ADD TO OUR DISH. - >> WE GOT A DEMONSTRATION AND - TASTE OF WHAT IT BECAME. - >> RICE CAKE IS RIGHT HERE. - THIS IS KIND OF A REFERENCE TO, - WHICH MEANS FRIED.

- KOREAN PEPPER POWDER. - WE HAVE THE MAIN SAUCE THAT YOU - ARE GOING TO USE FOR THIS - PARTICULAR SAUCE. - WE HAVE A LOT OF VEGETABLES, - SOME ZUCCHINI. - WE ALSO HAVE AROMATICS, SOME - ONIONS AND GARLIC. - >> THEN THINGS CAME TOGETHER - QUICKLY. - >> I HAVE MADE YOU ABLE WHICH - HAS THE RICE, EVERY KOREAN MEAL - STARTS WITH RICE, AND THEN WE - HAVE SOME BRAISED POTATOES, WE - HAVE TOFU PANCAKE, AND WE HAVE - THE STAR -- YOU HELPED ME - PREPARE. - >> OF COURSE. - >> EXPERTLY HELPED ME PREPARE. - [LAUGHTER] - THAT IS WHY IT IS GOING TO TASTE - SO GOOD. - >> WE DID A GOOD JOB. - >> WE DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. - IT TURNED OUT PERFECT. - >> IN THE FAMILY HISTORY, THERE - IS MORE. - LIKE MANY IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, - THEY DID NOT SPEAK MUCH OF THE

- PAST AND ONLY AS AN ADULT DID - SHE LEARN SOME OF WHAT HER - PARENTS HAD EXPERIENCED AS - CHILDREN IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE - KOREAN WAR. - AS WHEN HER MOTHER ONE DAY - EXPLAINED THAT HER FAVORITE FOOD - IS BAKED SWEET POTATO, BECAUSE - IT HAD SUSTAINED HER AS A - REFUGEE LIVING IN SOUTH KOREA. - >> I WAS LIKE, I'VE LITERALLY - NEVER HEARD YOU SAY THE WORD - REFUGEE IN MY LIFE, WHAT DO YOU - MEAN YOU WERE ONE? - SHE SAID, I WAS BORN IN NORTH - KOREA. - WHAT? - >> WHAT IS THE LARGER STORY YOU - ARE TELLING US THROUGH THESE - VIDEOS? - >> I REALLY WANTED TO HONOR MY - PARENTS THROUGH THE STORIES. - THAT IS MY HEART'S PASSION. - SHARING THE STORIES OF MY MOM - AND DAD AND MAKING THEM FEEL - LIKE THEIR STORIES MATTER. - THESE ARE STORIES THAT I THINK - ARE SO BEAUTIFUL, BUT I ALSO - THINK THEY ARE STORIES THAT SHOW - EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR - YOU ARE, HOW OLD YOU ARE, WHAT - YOUR BACKGROUND IS, OR WHAT YOUR - FOOD LOOKS OR SMELLS LIKE, THAT - THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE

- ALL SHARE IN COMMON. - THE HARDER IT BECOMES FOR - LAWMAKERS TO EXPLORE THE - UNDERLYING CAUSE OF HATE CRIMES. - >> SHE IS READY TO MIX IT UP. - >> I STILL FEEL THAT SOME PEOPLE - LOOK AT ME, THEY LOOK AT MY - FOOD, THEY LOOK AT MY HAIR - COLOR, THEY LOOK AT THE SHAPE OF - MY EYES AND SAY FOREIGNER, SHE - IS NOT AMERICAN. - I'VE BEEN TOLD SO MANY TIMES, GO - BACK HOME TO WHERE YOU CAME - FROM, WELL, THAT IS CHICAGO, - ILLINOIS. - [LAUGHTER] - THERE IS THAT SORT OF THING I - STILL HAVE TO CONTEND WITH. - ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS - THIS MAINSTREAM ACCEPTANCE -- - EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT SQUID - GAME -- I LOVE THAT, I LOVE THAT - PEOPLE ARE OPENING THEIR HEARTS - IN THEIR MINDS AND THEIR PALLETS - TO THINGS THAT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE - OF THE NORMAL EXPERIENCE. - WHAT I'M TRYING TO CONVEY IS I'M - AMERICAN, THESE ARE THE FOODS - THAT IE, I SPOKE KOREAN GROWING

- UP, I SPOKE ENGLISH WHEN I - STARTED GOING TO SCHOOL, THIS IS - VERY EVERYDAY LIFE IN A KOREAN - AMERICAN HOUSEHOLD AND WHILE IT - MAY SEEM A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IT - IS STILL JUST AS AMERICAN AS - ANYTHING ELSE. - >> YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS AN - AMERICAN FOOD. - >> FOR ME, THIS IS. - I MADE THIS FOOD AND THIS IS - WHAT WE ATE IN AMERICA. - >> IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. - >> IN CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. - >> AND NOW WITH A KOREAN VEGAN - TWIST. - JUDY: AND I'M HUNGRY AFTER - LOOKING AT ALL THAT GREAT FOOD. - ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE, WE CHECK - BACK IN WITH SANDRA LINDSAY, THE - NEW YORK NURSE WHO ONE YEAR AGO - TODAY BECAME THE FIRST AMERICAN - TO RECEIVE THE COVID VACCINE - OUTSIDE OF CLINICAL TRIALS. - YOU CAN HEAR WHAT SHE SAYS ABOUT - OUR PROGRESS AGAINST THE VIRUS - AND THE OMICRON VARIANT ON OUR - WEBSITE, PBS.ORG/NEWSHOUR. - THAT IS THE NEWSHOUR FOR - TONIGHT. - I'M JUDY WOODRUFF.

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