PBS NewsHour; June 1, 2020, 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT

- Captioning sponsored by - NEWSHOUR PRODUCTIONS, LLC - >> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M - JUDY WOODRUFF. - ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, UNREST - IN THESE UNITED STATES-- - PROTESTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY CALL - FOR JUSTICE AS POCKETS OF - VIOLENCE AND CHAOS ERUPT IN THE - STREETS. - THEN, PRESIDENT TRUMP BERATES - GOVERNORS AND CALLS FOR - CRACKDOWN. - WE LOOK AT THIS CRITICAL MOMENT - IN AMERICAN LIFE. - AND, ROOTS OF ANGER-- WE ARE ON - THE GROUND IN MINNEAPOLIS TO - EXAMINE HOW A HISTORY OF RACISM - SOWED THE SEEDS OF TODAY'S - PROTESTS. - >> I'VE BEEN STOPPED SO MANY - TIMES FOR THE COLOR OF MY SKIN. - I'VE BEEN HARASSED FOR THE COLOR - OF MY SKIN. - AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER. - I MEAN, WHEN I WALK OUT THE - HOUSE, I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

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- DEPLOYING FLASH BANGS TO - DISPERCENT PEACEFUL POTESTS - NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE. - ADDITIONAL NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS - HAVE BEEN CALLED IN. - PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE DEFIANTLY - IN THE ROSE GARDEN JUST MOMENTS - AGO. - >> TODAY I HAVE STRONGLY - RECOMMENDED TO EVERY GOVERNOR TO - DEPLOY THE NATIONAL GUARD IN - SUFFICIENT NUMBERS THAT WE - DOMINATE THE STREETS. - MAYORS AND GOVERNORS MUST - ESTABLISH AN OVERWHELMING LAW - ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE UNTIL THE - HAVE A LENS HAS BEEN QUELLED. - IF A CITY OR STATE REFUSES TO - TAKE THE ACTIONS THAT ARE - NECESSARY TO DEFEND THE LIFE AND - PROPERTY OF THEIR RESIDENTS THAN - I WILL DEPLOY THE UNITED STATES - MILITARY AND QUICKLY SOLVE THE - PROBLEM FOR THEM. - I AM ALSO TAKING SWIFT AND - DECISIVE ACTION TO PROTECT OUR - GREAT CAPITOL, WASHINGTON. - >> Woodruff: PRESIDENT TRUMP

- JUST MOMENTS AGO. - OUR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT - YAMICHE ALL SIPPEDDER LAYS OUT - HOW THE DAY UNFOLDED. - >> HISTORIC PROTESTS, A NATION - REELING y - THERE WAS SIMILAR TROUBLE IN - WASHINGTON, PHILADELPHIA AND - ELSEWHERE. - A NUMBER OF CITIES IMPOSED - CURFEWS. - NATIONWIDE, AT LEAST 23 STATES - AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - CALLED OUT MORE THAN 17,000 - NATIONAL GUARDSMEN. - HIS BROTHER SPOKE - TO CROWDS. - >> IF I'M NOT OVER HERE WILD - ENOUGH, IF I'M NOT OVER HERE - BLOWING UP STUFF, IF I'M NOT - OVER HERE MESSING UP MY - COMMUNITY, THEN WHAT Y'ALL - DOING? - WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING? - Y'ALL DOING NOTHING. - BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO - BRING MY BLOWER BACK AT A - >> Alcindor: IN SOME CITIES,

- POLICE EXPRESSED SOLIDARITY WITH - FOOTAGE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SHOWED - THE MOMENT DEMONSTRATORS IN - WASHINGTON TACKLED A WHITE MAN - TO THE GROUND AS HE ATTEMPTED TO - PROVOKE POLICE. - IN NEW YORK CITY, DEMONSTRATORS - CAME HEAD TO HEAD WITH POLICE. - AND LOOTING DISRUPTED PARTS OF - 5th AVENUE. - THERE WAS SIMILAR TROUBLE IN - WASHINGTON, PHILADELPHIA AND - ELSEWHERE. - A NUMBER OF CITIES IMPOSED - CURFEWS. - NATIONWIDE, AT LEAST 23 STATES - AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA - CALLED OUT MORE THAN 17,000 - NATIONAL GUARDSMEN. - HIS BROTHER SPOKE - TO CROWDS. - >> IF I'M NOT OVER HERE WILD - ENOUGH, IF I'M NOT OVER HERE - BLOWING UP STUFF, IF I'M NOT - OVER HERE MESSING UP MY - COMMUNITY, THEN WHAT Y'ALL - DOING? - WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING? - Y'ALL DOING NOTHING. - BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO - BRING MY BLOWER BACK AT A

- >> Alcindor: IN SOME CITIES, - POLICE EXPRESSED SOLIDARITY WITH - THE PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATORS. - WHEN PROTESTERS IN WASHINGTON - STRUGGLED TO WASH TEAR GAS FROM - THEIR EYES. - IN NEW YORK CITY, SOME POLICE - CRUISERS DROVE INTO CROWDS. - AND IN ATLANTA, A POLICE OFFICER - WAS FIRED AFTER DRAGGING BLACK - COLLEGE STUDENTS OUT OF THEIR - CAR AND TASING THEM. - THROUGH A HISTORICALLY - TUMULTUOUS WEEKEND, PRESIDENT - TRUMP SPOKE ONLY THROUGH - TWITTER. - THERE, HE BLAMED ANTI-FASCIST - ORGANIZATIONS OR "ANTIFA" FOR - THE VIOLENCE. - ON A PHONE CALL WITH GOVERNORS - TODAY, THE PRESIDENT CALLED FOR - HARSHER CRACKDOWNS. - >> YOU HAVE TO DOMINATE, IF YOU - DON'T DOMINATE YOU'RE WASTING - YOUR TIME. - THEY'RE GONNA RUN OVER YOU - YOU'RE GONNA LOOK LIKE A BUNCH - OF JERKS. - YOU HAVE TO DOMINATE, AND YOU - HAVE TO ARREST PEOPLE, AND YOU - HAVE TO TRY PEOPLE AND THEY HAVE - TO GO TO JAIL FOR LONG PERIODS - OF TIME. - >> Alcindor: THIS AFTERNOON, - WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY - KAYLEIGH MCENANY WEIGHED IN. - >> THE PRESIDENT HAS MADE CLEAR - THAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON - AMERICA'S STREETS IS

- UNACCEPTABLE. - VIOLENCE, LOOTING, ANARCHY, - LAWLESSNESS ARE NOT TO BE - TOLERATED. - PLAIN AND SIMPLE. - THESE CRIMINAL ACTS ARE NOT - PROTESTS. - THEY ARE NOT STATEMENTS. - THESE ARE CRIMES THAT HARM - INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZENS. - >> OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE THIS - WEEKEND THE - >> Alcindor: OUTSIDE THE WHITE - HOUSTHIS WEEKEND, THE NEWSHOUR - SPOKE TO DEMONSTRATORS LIKE - JADEN OLLEY, WHO SAID LIVES LIKE - HIS ARE ON THE LINE. - WHAT DO YOU WANT THEM TO - UNDERSTAND ABOUT YOUR LIFE AS A - BLACK MAN? - >> I JUST I'M I'M AS EQUAL AS - ANYBODY ELSE. - AS VALUABLE AS ANYBODY ELSE IN - THE WORLD, JUST CAUSE I'M A - HUMAN BEING AND JUST LIKE - ANYBODY ELSE. - SO I JUST I JUST WANT JUSTICE - FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST JUSTICE - FOR PEOPLE THAT HE WOULD FEEL - JUSTICE SHOULD BE FOR. - >> Alcindor: WHEN YOU SEE THE - VIDEO OF GEORGE FLOYD, DO YOU - THINK THAT COULD BE ME? - >>LWAYS. - I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD AND MY - MIND WHEN THE TRAYVON MARTIN - CASE HAPPENED. - AND EVER SINCE THEN, I - UNDERSTOOD THAT IT COULD BE ME. - >> Alcindor: DEMONSTRATOR TAYLOR - JONES SAYS THAT'S A PAINFUL

- REALITY FOR HER, TOO. - >> MY PLANS WERE TO ACTUALLY BE - A POLICE OFFICER, BUT THEN I - REALIZED THAT THAT ONE GOOD - APPLE IN A BAD BATCH REALLY - DOESN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE - BECAUSE ONCE YOU SIGN YOUR LIFE - OVER TO THAT BADGE, YOU HAVE TO - BE LOYAL TO WHO YOU WORK FOR AND - THAT JUST WASN'T ME. - I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEAR - LEAVING MY HOUSE AND NOT BEING - ABLE TO BREATHE OR MY MOM - CALLING ME CRYING BECAUSE I'M - PROTESTING FOR MY RIGHTS AND SHE - IS SCARED I WON'T COME BACK - HOME. - >> Alcindor: THIS WEEKEND, - CRITICISM OF POLICE VIOLENCE IN - AMERICECHOED AROUND THE WORLD. - IN AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND, - STREETS FILLED WITH PROTESTERS - CHANTING IN SUPPORT OF "BLACK - LIVES MATTER." - AND INONDON, DEMONSTRATIONS - THERE BECAME VIOLENT AS CLASHES - ERUPTED WITH POLICE. - BACK IN MINNEAPOLIS TODAY, CIVIL - CURFEW WAS IMPOSED AND IF OTHER - CITIES. - AND IN MINNEAPOLIS CIVIL RIGHTS - ATTORNEY BEN CRUMP ANNOUNCED A - BACK IN MINNEAPOLIS TODAY, CIVIL - RIGHTS ATTORNEY BEN CRUMB - ANNOUNCED THE SULTS OF A - PRIVATE FAMILY AUTOPSY ON FLOYD. - THEY SAID SUSTAINED PRESSURE ON - FLOYD'S NECK AND BACK BY ALL

- FOUR RESPONDING OFFICERS ARE - WHAT KILLED HIM. - >> THE SCAR TISSUE OF GEORGE - FLOYD'S DEATH WILL BE PERMANENT - SCAR TISSUE ON THE SUB - CONSCIENCE OF AMERICA. - >> AND THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE - CHIEF SAID THE THREE OFFICERS - >> Alcindor: AND THE MINNEAPOLIS - POLICE CHIEF SAID THE THREE - OFFICERS WHO WATCHED FLOYD'S - KILLING WERE "COMPLICIT." - BUT, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ARRESTED - OR CHARGED IN HS DEATH. - FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M - YAMICHE ALCINDOR. - THEY OFFICIALLY RULED GEORGE - FLOYD'S DEATH A HOMICIDE. - ALSO TODAY THE POLICE - >> Woodruff: ALSO TODAY, THE - POLICE CHIEF OF LOUISVILLE, - KENTUCKY WAS FIRED, A MONTH - BEFORE HE RETIRES, WHEN OFFICERS - KILLED A BLACK MAN EARLY TODAY, - AND FAILED TO RECORD BODY-CAM - FOOTAGE.

- A BLACK WOMAN WAS KILLED BY - LOUISVILLE POLICE, IN MARCH. - AS YOU SAW IN YAMICHE'S REPORT, - OUTRAGE AND PROTEST ERUPTED IN - CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. - AMNA NAWAZ TAKES A CLOSER LOOK. - >> Nawaz: THAT'S RIGHT, JUDY. - WHAT STARTED IN MINNEAPOLIS LAST - WEEK SPREAD TO DOZENS OF CITIES - THIS WEEKEND. - AND THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS WERE - ARRESTED. - WE'VE GOT REPORTERS ACROSS THE - COUNTRY: PBS NEWSHOUR SPECIAL - CORESPONDENT FRED DE SAM LAZARO - IS IN MINNEAPOLIS. - RICKEY BEVINGTON OF GEORGIA - PUBLIC BROADCASTING IS IN - ATLANTA. - AND CERISE CASTLE OF PUBLIC - RADIO STATION KCRW IS IN LOS - WELCOME TO YOU ALL, AND FRED, - LET'S GO TO YOU IN MINNEAPOLIS - FIRST, THIS IS GROUND ZERO IN - MANY WAYS. - THIS IS WHERE GEORGE FLOYD WAS - KILLED, OR WHERE THE PROTESTS - LCOME TO YOU ALL, AND FRED,TWO - MERE IN MINNESOTA ALLOWING - THEMSELVES FOR THE FIRST TIME TO

- BE OPTIMISTIC. - THE GOVERNOR HAS LOOSENED THE - CURFEW HOURS. - SO THEY'RE A LITTLE SHORTER. - A LITTLE MORE OPTIMISTIC, CAN - THAT FOR THIS AFTERNOON A - FUNDRAISING DRIVE TO WHICH MORE - PEOPLE CONTRIBUTED $2 MILLION TO - HELP SMALL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE - BEEN DEVASTATED THESE LAST FEW - DAYS. - SO FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'RE - GETTING A SENSE FROM MINNEAPOLIS - THAT CAN LOOK POST GEORGE FLOYD - INTO ITS FUTURE. - >> CERTAINLY GOOD NEWS FOR SO - MANY PEOPLE, BUT FRED, JUúT TO - FOLLOW UP, I WONDER IF YOU CAN - TELL US ABOUT WHAT THAT OFFICIAL - RESPONSE HAS BEEN? - WE HEARD PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THAT - REPORTED CALL WITH GOVERNORS - EARLIER HAIL THE RESPONSE FROM - GOVERNOR WALZ SAYING HE HAD DONE - A GOOD JOB. - WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN AND WHAT DOES - THAT MEAN ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK - PEOPLE THERE CAN EXPECT TONIGHT? - >> GOVERNOR WALTZ-- WALZ PUSHED - BACK A LITTLE BIT WHILE AGREEING - THAT THE BEEFED UP POLIC

- PRESENCE WHICH WAS NO NONSENSE - YESTERDAY DID HELP DE-ESCALATE - THE SITUATION. - HE SAID THIS WAS MILITARILY - UNSUSTAINABLE. - THAT WAS ON ONE OF TWO POIS - THAT THE GOVERNOR SEEMED TO MAKE - IN HIS NEWS CONFERENCE TODAY. - THE OTHER POINT IS HE SAID THE - COMPLIANCE WITH THE STAY AT HOME - PLEAS, ESSENTIALLY FROM - OFFICIALS, WERE ESCALATED TO BE - STAY AT HOME COMMANDS. - AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL MORE - COMPLIANCE AND TRANQUILITY IN - THE CITY, RELATIVE TO THE DAYS - BEFORE THAT. - SO, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF - PUSHBACK FROM THE GOVERNOR ON - WHAT CAUSED THIS. - HE SAID THIS IS JUST NOT - MILITARILY OR SOCIALLY - SUSTAINABLE, IT IS THE - ANTITHESIS OF HOW WE LIVE. - ALL EYES ARE ON TONIGHT TO SEE - HOW IT EVOLVES IN MINNEAPOLIS. - >> AND WE'LL BE WATCHING AS - WELL, CERISE CASTLE, I WANT TO - GO TO YOU OVER IN LOS ANGELES. - YOU WERE OUT COVERING THE - PROTESTS IN THE FAIRFAX DISTRICT - OF LOS ANGELES.

- AN AREA WITH A LOT OF SHOPS AND - RESTAUNTS, TOURIST ATTRACTION. - DESCRIBE FOR US WHAT YOU SAW - OVER THE COURSE OF THE HOURS - THAT YOU WERE THERE. - >> SURE. - SO I CAME OUT TO COVER A PROTEST - THAT WAS HAPPENING AT - PAN-PACIFIC PARK AROUND NOON ON - SATURDAY. - I WAS THERE FOR ABOUT SIX HOURS - AND IN THAT TIME I WAS WALKING - WITH PROTESTORS AS THEY MADE - THEIR WAY THROUGHOUT THE - DISTRICT. - LOTS OF THEM FOR THE MOST PART - WITH PEACEABLY GATHERED. - I SAW LOTS OF SIGNS, LOTS OF - GROUP CHANTING AND EVEN SOME - AZTEC PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT AND - PERFORMED A CEREMONIAL DANCE - WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOS - YOU ARE SEEING NOW. - NOW THINGS DID START TO GET A - LITTLE HARRY AS THE AFTERNOON - WORE ON. - AT ONE POINT ABOUT 500 PEOPLE - HAD GATHERED AT THE INTEFER - SECTION OF BEVERLY AND FAIRFAX - AND A SAW A NUMBER OF POLICE - CRUISERS THAT HAD BEEN PUT ON - FIRE. - THAT WAS THE ONLY REAL VIOLENCE - I SAW WHEN I WAS OUT THERE, FOR - THE MOST PART, LIKE I SAID, - PEOPLE WERE GATHERED PEACEFULLY. - AT ONE POINT, HOWEVER, AROUND - 4:00 IS WHEN THINGS STARTED TO

- TURN UP A LITTLE BIT. - THAT WAS WHEN POLICE IN FULL - RIOT GEAR MADE THEIR WAY TO THE - INTERSECTION AND BEGAN FIRING - RUBBER BULLETS WITHOUT WARNING - AT PROTESTORS AND AT JOURNALISTS - SUCH AS MYSELF. - I WAS ACTUALLY HIT WITH A RUBBER - BULLET IN THE ARM AND BY LOS - ANGELES POLICE. - AND I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ANY - WORD FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT - AS TO WHY THEY WERE SHOOTING AT - JOURNALISTS. - >> VERY BRIEFLY, YOU MENTIONED - TO MY PRODUCER YOU SAW KIND OF - TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE. - WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? - >> SURE, WELL, FOR THE MOST - PART, MOST OF THE PROTESTORS - THAT I AM SEEING OUT HERE CAME - WITH THE INTENT TO PEACEFULLY - DEMONSTRATE AND EXERCISE THEIR - FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. - ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE - PEOPLE THAT ARE SORT OF TAKING - ADVANTAGE OF THE POLICE BEING - PREOCCUPIED WITH THESE - DEMONSTRATORS AND SENDING ALL - THEIR RESOURCES OVER THERE. - THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN - AND CHOOSING TO BREAK INTO - STORES AND STEAL FROM THEM ARE, - YOU KNOW, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF

- THE POLICE BEING PREOCCUPIED. - THOSE ARE THE TWO GROUPS OF - PEOPLE THAT WE'RE SEEING COVERED - BY MOST OF THE MEDIA AND THESE - PROTESTS. - BUT THERE ISN'T REALLY A LOT OF - DIFFER RENT YAITION BETWEEN THE - TWO GROUPS. - HOWEVEON THE GROUND, IT IS - CLEAR THAT THESE REALLY ARE TWO - DIFFERENT GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH - TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT - AGENDAS. - >> RICKEY BEVINGTON OVER IN - ATLANTA, TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU - WERE SEEING COVERING THE THE - PROTESTS, DID DID YOU SEE - SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT CERISE - WAS KRIEBING. - >> THE POLICE PRESENCE WAS - ROBUST, PROFESSIONAL, ORGANIZED - AND CALM. - THE GROUP HOWEVER LAST NIGHT - THAT I SAW WAS LESS UNIFIED. - THERE WERE DEFINITELY PEOPLE - THERE TO PEACEFULLY PROTEST - AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY. - PARENTS WITH SMALL CHILDREN, - COUPLES HOLDING SIGNS. - THERE WERE OTHER GROUPS OF - PEOPLE WHO APPEARED READY FOR - CONFLICT WITH POLICE, IN FACT - THOSE CONFLICTS WITHIN THE GROUP - WERE CLEAR WHEN ONE GROUP OF - PROTESTORS BEGAN TO TEAR APART A - CONSTRUCTION SITE STEALING THE - FENCING TO CREATE A BARRICADE IN

- THE ROAD. - OTHER PROTESTORS WERE SCREAMING - AT THEM TO STOP SAYING THAT THE - PROPERTY DAMAGE DOES NOT - REPRESENT THE MESSAGE THAT THEY - WERE THERE TO SEND. - >> RICKEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE - BASED ON THE COMMUNITY AND - PEOPLE YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING TO - AND THE OFFICIAL RESPONSE OF - WHAT IS AHEAD FOR ATLANTA - TONIGHT? - >> ATLANTA IS UNDER A 9 P.M. - RFEW FOR THE THIRD EVENING IN - A ROW. - AUTHORITIES DO BELIEVE THAT - THERE WILL BE MORE ACTIVITY - TODAY. - EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT 55 - PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED FOR - BLOCKING THE ROAD IN FRONT OF - CITY HALL. - THERE WERE ABOUT 157 ARRESTS ON - SATURDAY NIGHT, ABOUT HALF THAT - MANY LAST NIGHT. - AUTHORITIES ARE HOPING FOR A - DOWNWARD TREND. - >> CERISE, VERY BRIEFLY IN JUST - A COUPLE OF SECONDS, DO YOU KNOW - WHAT OFFICIALS ARE AICIPATING - IN LOS ANGELES? - >> WELL, TONIGHT WE HAVE A - CURFEW IN PLACE AS WELL. - THE CURFEWS IN L.A. COUNTY RANGE - FROM AS EARLY AS 1:30 THIS - AFTERNOON TO AS LATE AS 8:00. - WE HAVE BROUGHT IN THE NATIONAL - GUARD TO HELP DISPERCENT PEOPLE - AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ADHERE TO

- THAT CURFEW. - BUT I MYSELF HAVE ALREADY SEEN - THAT A NUMBER OF PROTESTS PLANS - ARE OUTSIDE THE CURFEW HOURS, SO - WE CAN EXPECT LAW ENFORCEMENT TO - BE OUT ON THE STREETS ENFORCING - THAT TONIGHT. - >> WE'LL ALL BE WATCHING. - AND WE HOPE ALL OF YOU STAY - SAFE. - THANK YOU FOR JOINING US - TONIGHT, RICKEY BEVINGTON, - CERISE CASTLE AND OF COURSE FRED - DE SAM LAZARO IN MNEAPOLIS, - STAY SAFE. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: THERE WILL BE MORE - PEACEFUL PROTESTS AROUND THE - COUNTRY THROUGHOUT THIS NIGHT. - BUT THERE WILL LIKELY BE CHARGED - CONFRONTATIONS AS WELL. - WE TALK WITH TWO PEOPLE WHOSE - EXPERIENCE MATTERS. - MICHAEL NUTTER IS THE FORMER - MAYOR OF PHILADELPHIA. - AND CHRISTOPHER SWANSON IS THE - SHERIFF OF GENESSEE COUNTY, - MICHIGAN. - HE GOT NATIONAL ATTENTION FOR - HIAPPROACH TO DEMONSTRATORS IN - FLINT THIS WEEKEND.

- HERE'S HOW SOME OF THAT WENT. - >> WE WANT TO BE WITH Y'ALL FOR - REAL. - SO I TOOK THE HELMET OFF, LAID - THE BATONS DOWN. - I WANT TO MAKE THIS A PARADE, - NOT A PROTEST. - YOU TELL US WHAT YOU NEED. - >> WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US. - WALK WITH US! - (CHEERS AND APPLAUSE) - >> SO SHERIFF SWANSON WATCHING - THAT VIDEO, WHY DID YOU DECIDE - TO DO THAT? - YOU WERE EXPRESSING SOLIDARITY - WITH THESE PROTESTORS. - >> YOU ARE RIGHT. - AND THANKS FOR HAVING ME. - AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT - NIGHT ON MAY 30th WAS A - HISTORY ON HOW TO HANDLE - PROTESTS IN A WAY THAT WAS OUR - GOAL.

- OUR CITY IS ALREADY UNDER ENOUGH - OPPRESSION. - WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH - ECONOMIC ISSUES, WATER CRISIS - AND A PANDEMIC. - AND IT WAS JUST THE RIGHT THING - TO DO. - AS A VETERAN POLICE OFFICER WHO - KNOWS THE COMMUNITY, I SAW ACTS - OF KINDNESS WITH FIST BUMPS, A - SMALL HUG AND I WENT TO MY - RIGHT, AND I SAW THAT. - AND I SAID I'M TAKING THE HELMET - OFF, WE'RE PUTTING OUR BATONS - DOWN AND I'M WALKING IN THE - CROWD. - AND WHEN I DID THAT, THAT ACT OF - VULNERABILITY, PROBABLY WASN'T - BEST TACTICAL RULES BY ANY - MEANS, IT SENT A MESSAGE. - AND THAT MESSAGE WAS THAT I NEED - TO SAY, WE DON'T AGREE, THAT'S - NOT WHO WE ARE, WHAT HAPPENED TO - MR. FLOYD. - AND WHEN I SAID THAT TO THE - CROWD, THE SECOND QUESTION, WHAT - DO WE NEED TO DO NOW? - IS TO WALK WITH US, THAT CHANGED - EVERYTHING. - BECAUSE NOW THEY HAD A POINT. - AND THEY WANTED SOMEBODY TO - LISTEN TO, AND THAT'S WH WAS - THE GAME CHANGER. - >> Woodruff: MAYOR NUTTER, - FORMER MAYOR NUTTER, HOW OFTEN - DOES SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN, - IN YOUR EXPERIENCE?

- >> UNFORTUNATELY, JUDY, IT'S - PRETTY RARE. - AND THE SHERIFF SWANSON, THANK - YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. - I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING - SIMILAR HAPPENED IN CAMPTON, NEW - JERSEY, JUST ACROSS THE RIVER - FROM US HERE IN PHILADELPHIA. - I THINK INCREASINGLY, JUDY, - THESE ISSUES, THESE CHALLENGES - CAN ONLY BE SOLVED BY - PARTNERSHIP AND COOPERATION. - BY POLICE AND COMMUNITY WORKING - TOGETHER. - BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF THE RACIAL - ASPECT OF THIS, BLACK AMERICANS - NEED TO HEAR THAT WHITE PEOPLE - REALLY DO UNDERSTAND AND ARE NOT - ONLY LISTENING BUT THEY'RE - HEARING WHAT WE SAY. - THE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES, YOU - KNOW, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE - LAST THREE, FOUR MONTHS, WHAT - HAS HAPPENED. - SUDDENLY WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC, - EVERYONE'S FORCED INTO THEIR - HOME. - VIRTUALLY NO ONE CAN WORK. - THOUSANDS, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE

- HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS. - 40 SOME MILLION AMERICANS HAVE - FILED FOR UNEMPLOYMENT. - AND THEN WE SEE THE VIDEO FROM - AHMAUD AR BERRY'S ASSASSINATION, - CHASED DOWN BY TWO OR THREE - WHITE PEOPLE, KILL HIM. - WE SEE MR. FLOYD KILLED IN THE - STREETS, A NEW AUTOPSY REPORT, - HOMICIDE AT THE HANDS OF POLICE. - WE SEE OR HEAR ABOUT MR. COOPER - IN CENTRAL PARK WHERE - UNFORTUNATELY A WHITE FEMALE - USES RACE AS A WEAPON TO AGAINST - MR. COOPER WHO WAS DOING - NOTHING. - AND THAT COULD HAVE TURNED OUT - VERY BADLY. - AND INCIDENT AFTER DISINLT AFTER - INCIDENT, PEOPLE ARE JUST TIRED, - JUDY, THEY ARE REALLY PISSED - OFF. - >> Woodruff: WELL, THAT'S THE - WAY A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL, - SHERIFF SWANSON, HOW DO YOU - KNOW, HOW, HOW DOES SOMEONE IN - LAW ENFORCEMENT, IN YOUR - POSITION KNOW WHEN THE MOMENT IS - RIGHT TO DO THIS?

- BECAUSE AS WE SAID, THERE ARE A - LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WANT THESE - PROTESTS TO BE PEACEFUL, BUT - THERE ARE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, - THINGS GET OUT OF CONTROL. - PEOPLE GET INVOLVED WHO TAKE - THINGS TO A DIFFERENT PLACE. - HOW IS LAW ENFORCEMENT TO HANDLE - THAT? - WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH. - >> FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO - OW YOUR COMMUNITY. - MAYORS SPOT ON. - I'M SURE HE KNOWS PHILLIE BETTER - THAN ANYBODY. - BUT IF YOU SEPARATE YOURSELF, - ESPECIALLY AS A POLICE EXECUTIVE - FROM THE STREETS AND HOW YOU GO - AND YOU LOSE TOUCH, AND YOU - BECOME TE DEAF TO WHAT THE - LANGUAGE IS, THAT SEPARATION - CREATES A DIVIDE. - AND NOW IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT - DIVIDE IS POLICE AGAINST - AFRICAN-AMERICANS. - THAT IT SETS A TONE, BUT THAT - TONE REQUEST CAN BE REVERSED. - SAW THAT IN FLINT MICHIGAN. - IN EIGHT MINUTES AND 46 SECONDS, - ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WORE THE SAME - UNIFORM, BUT ISN'T WHO WE ARE, - HE RACED YEARS OF INROADS THAT - COMMUNITIES HAVE BUILT WITH

- THEIR PEOPLE, THAT LAW - ENFORCEMENT HAS TRIED TO HARD, - THAT MAYORS AND TOWNSHIPS AND - CITIES ACROSS THE NATION HAVE - TRIED TO BUILD. - BUT THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WERE - KEY. - AND I LET ME TELL YOU, THE 127 - YEARS ON THE JOB, IT WASN'T JUST - SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT OF. - I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I - STRATEGIZED, IT WASN'T IT. - I LOVE MY PEOPLE. - I LOVE THE PEOPLE IN THE - COMMUNITY. - I SERVE THEM FOR MY ENTIRE ADULT - LIFE. - I FELT COMFORTABLE, ALTHOUGH NOT - THE BEST TACTICAL DECISION AS I - MENTIONED. - BUT I KNEW THAT IF I LAID DOWN - MY WEAPON AND I WALKED IN A - POSITION OF VULNERABILITY, THEY - WOULD SEE ME AS AN ACTION, NOT - JUST WORDS. - JUST LIKE MAYOR SAID, PEOPLE ARE - TIRED OF WORDS. - AND WHEN THEY SAW THAT, IT - CHANGED THEIR HEARTS. - AND WE HAVEN'T STOPPED THERE. - THERE ARE DEMONSTRATIONS RIGHT - ON THE FRONT OF OUR LAWN, TOOK - CARE OF PEOPLE, SERVED THEM, NO - ISSUES. - TODAY WE HAD MORE - DEMONSTRATIONS, SERVED THEM, - PROTECTED THEM, THREE DAYS, NO - ARRESTS, NO FIRES, NO INJURIES.

- >> Woodruff: LET ME JUST - FINALLY, WE HAVE LESS THAN A - MINUTE, MAYOR NUTTER. - PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY IS CALLING - ON GOVERNORS TO GET TOUGHER, - SAYING IF YOU DON'T DOMINATE YOU - ARE SEEN AS WEAK, THEY WILL SEE - YOU AS JERKS. - IS THIS A MESSAGE LAW - ENFORCEMENT SHOULD BE HEEDING, - GOVERNORS SHOULD BE HEEDING. - >> THAT IS JUST ACCELERATING THE - FEELING OF OPPRESSION THAT BLACK - PEOPLE, LATINO PEOPLE, OTHER - PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE ALREADY - BEEN FEELING. - DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA HOW TO - MANAGE ANY CRISIS. - HE HAS NO, AS THE CHIEF TALKED - ABOUT, HE HAS NO FEELING OF THE - STREET. - THIS IS NOT ABOUT DOMINATION. - THIS IS ABOUT WORKING WITH - PEOPLE. - BUT JUDY, YOU ELUDED TO - SOMETHING AND I WANT TO TAKE IT - HEAD ON. - THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE AT THESE - PROTESTS WHOSE INTERESTS ARE NOT - ABOUT MR. FLOYD. - WHOSE INTERESTS ARE NOT ABOUT - BLACK PEOPLE, WHOSE INTERESTS - ARE NOT ABOUT EQUITY AND - JUSTICE. - THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT - DESTRUCTION.

- THEY WANT CHAOS, THEY WANT - CONFUSION. - AND THEY MESH INTO, THEY MELD - INTO SOME OF THE CROWD. - AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU - HAVE CHAOS. - NOW DONALD TRUMP LIKES CHAOS. - AND HE LIKES THIS ENVIRONMENT - BECAUSE HE CAN NOW PLAY TO HIS - POLITICAL BASE, THAT HE HAS TO - KEEP THESE PEOPLE IN CONTROL. - IT SAY POLITICAL GAME THAT HE IS - PLAYING. - AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT - LIFE-AND-DEATH. - THE LIFE-AND-DEATH OF PEOPLE AND - THE LIFE-AND-DEATH OF - COMMUNITIES. - >> Woodruff: MAYOR MICHAEL - NUTTER, SHERIFF SWANSON, THANK - YOU VERY MUCH. - >> THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU, JUDY. - >> Woodruff: LET'S FOCUS MORE ON - SOME OF THE DEEPER SYSTEMIC - ISSUES THAT ARE UNDERLYING THE - DEMONSTRATIONS AND CIVIC UNREST - SHAKING THE COUNTRY. - WE HAVE THREE VOICES TO JOIN US - FOR THAT. - ROXANE GAY IS A NOTED ESSAYIST - AND AUTHOR WHOSE WORK FREQUENTLY - FOCUSES ON RACE, FEMINISM, - IDENTITY AND PRIVILEGE.

- ANNA DEAVERE SMITH, AN AWARD- - WINNING PLAYWRIGHT AND ACTOR - WHOSE WORKS HAVE EXPLORED - QUESTIONS ABOUT RACE, CLASS AND - THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. - THAT INCLUDES "NOTES FROM THE - FIELD," WHICH WAS ADAPTED INTO A - FILM BY HBO AND WILL BE RE- - BROADCAST TOMORROW. - AND TAY ANDERSON IS AN ACTIVIST - IN DENVER WHO HAS BEEN LEADING - PROTESTS THERE. - HE IS ALSO A DENVER PUBLIC - SCHOOLS BOARD MEMBER. - WELCOME TO ALL THREE OF YOU. - AND TAY ANDERSON, LET ME START - WITH YOU FIRST. - YOU ARE ELECTED TO THE SCHOOL - BOARD. - YOU WERE PART OF THE POWER - STRUCTURE BUT YOU ARE ALSO A - YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN. - WHAT DO YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THE - DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD? - >> FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR - HAVING ME. - AS A BLACK MAN EVERY DAY I WAKE - UP AND WONDER, WILL I BE ABLE TO - GO HOME. - I HAVE HAD MY OWN FAIR SHARE OF - INTERACTION WITH BEING PULLED - OVER AND NOT KNOWING WHAT DO YOU - REACH FOR FIRST, OR DO YOU PUT - YOUR HANDS UP OR PUT THEM OUT OF

- THE WINDOW. - AND SO TO SEE THAT GEORGE FLOYD - WAS KILLED IS HEARTBREAKING. - BUT IT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME - THAT WE HAVE HAD TO GATHER LIKE - THIS. - I HOPE THAT IT WILL BE THE LAST. - >> ROXANE GAY AS YOU LISTEN TO - THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO ARE - PROTESTING, WHAT DO YOU HEAR AND - IS IT WHAT YOU'RE FEELING INSIDE - YOU? - >> ABSOLUTELY. - I'M HEARING AND I THINK WHAT ALL - OF US ARE HEARING THAT ARE - LISTENING IS RAGE. - AND PEOPLE SAYING IT'S ENOUGH. - EVERY SINGLE DAY, ALMOST, A NEW - ATROCITY COMES TO LIGHT. - AND PEOPLE CAN ONLY TOLERATE SO - MUCH INJUSTICE AND OPPRESSION. - AND WE'RE NOW SEEING THE - CONSEQUENCES OF NOT DEALING WITH - POLICE BRUTALITY. - AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE RESPONSE - IN MOST PLACES HAS BEEN TO - RESPOND WITH MORE POLICING. - WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOT THE - ANSWER. - SO I AM FRUSTRATED. - THE PROTEST AS THE PROTESTORS - ARE AND JUST WONDERING WHEN IS

- IT GOING TO CHANGE BUT I DON'T - KNOW THAT IT WILL. - >> ANNA DEAVERE SMITH YOU HAVE - BEEN WRITING ABOUT RACE AND - ABOUT SOCIAL JUSTICE, ABOUT THE - CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR - YEARS. - WHAT IS DIFFERENT THIS TIME? - >> WELL, THERE IS ONE THING THAT - TO ME IS NOTABLY DIFFERENT. - AND THAT IS THE EXOTION OF THE - PEOPLE IN THE STREET DOING THE - PROTESTS. - AND MORE THAN ONE NEWSCASTER HAS - COMMENTEDDED THAT IT'S NOT JUST - BLACK PEOPLE. - AND YOU KNOW, THIS WORD, ALLY I - HEARD FROM YOUNGER PEOPLE TAKES - ON A NEW MEANING FOR ME. - AND I THINK ACTUALLY IF THERE IS - ANY GOOD NEWS HERE, IT IS THE - EVIDENCE ABOUT HOW EDUCATION, - PARTICULARLY IN COLLEGES OVER - THE LAST TWO DECADES HAVE - INCREASED SORT OF PEOPLE'S - AWARENESS OF ONE ANOTHER. - AND PEOPLE'S AWARENESS OF BLACK - CULTURE AND THAT MANY OF THE - WHITE PEOPLE THERE AND THE BLACK - PEOPLE OUT THERE, PEACEFULLY - PROTESTING, HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED

- BY PEOPLE LIKE TONI MORRISON AND - EVEN TO EXPERIENCE VERY POWERFUL - CULTURAL MAKERS LIKE THE WORK OF - SHONDA REIMS OR JAY-Z AND THEY - HAVE EXPERIENCED IT TOGETHER. - AND THEY EXPECT A LOT MORE FROM - THE SYSTEM. - >> AND TAY ANDERSON, ARE THOSE - SOME OF THE MESSAGES YOU FEEL - ARE COMING ACROSS? - YOU ARE EXPRESSING YOUR OWN RAGE - AND FRUSTRATION. - DO YOU FEEL SOME OF THIS COMING - ACROSS? - >> YEAH, WE HAVE AN, IN DENVER - WE HAVE EXPLICITLY ASKED WHAT WE - CALL ALLIES THAT ARE SHOWING UP - TO PLEASE NOT ESCALATE ON OUR - BEHALF. - BUT THOSE ASKS HAVE BEEN - IGNORED. - AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE SEEING OUR - CITY BEING DESTROYED. - AND ST NOT IN THE NAME OF BLACK - ORGANIZERS OR BLACK LIVES MATTER - AS A MOVEMENT. - PEOPLE ARE TAKING IT ON THEIR - OWN VOW LIS AND ST HEARTBREAKING - TO SEE THAT THOSE WHO COME OUT - TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE ARE USING - THE CAUSE FOR THEIR OWN AGENDA. - >> Woodruff: IS THAT, ROXANE

- GAY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT - DISTURBS YOU? - YOU SAID A MOMENT AGO IT'S HARD, - WORDS TO THE EFFECT, IT'S HARD - TO HAVE HOPE. - WHY IS IT HARD TO HAVE HOPE - RIGHT NOW? - >> IT'S HARD TO HAVE HOPE - BECAUSE THERE'S NO CHANGE. - THERE IS NO PRODUCTIVE RESPONSE. - THERE'S NO LEADERSHIP AT THE - FEDERAL LEVEL BECAUSE THE - PRESIDENT IS THE RACIST IN - CHEAF. - SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT EVEN IN - LIBERAL STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA - AND A LIBERAL CITY LIKE LOS - ANGELES WHERE TODAY WE HAVE - CURFEWS AT 1, 4 AND 6 P.M., HOW - DO YOU HAVE HOPE WHEN EVEN THE - MOST LIBERAL OF GOVERNMENT IS - NOT RESPONDING WITH ANYTHING BUT - REINFORCING THE POLICE STATE. - AND YESTERDAY, LAST NIGHT IN - PROTESTS IN LOUISVILLE, - KENTUCKY, A 53 YEAR OLD BLACK - MAN DAVID MACK ADY WAS MURDERED - BY POLICE. - SO HOW DO YOU HAVE HOPE WHEN - DURING A PROTEST AGAINST POLICE - VIOLENCE, ANOTHER BLACK MAN IS - MURDERED. - IT IS INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING.

- >> Woodruff: AND I WANT TO - COME BACK TO YOU, TAY ANDERSON, - ON THAT BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT WHAT - IS GOING ON AND TO SOME EXTENT - CLEARLY THE VIOLENCE THAT IS - HAPPENING IS CAUSING PEOPLE TO - SAY, THIS HAS GONE TOO FAR. - ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS - STILL A GREAT SENSE OF INJUSTICE - >> YEAH. - WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A - GREAT SENSE OF INJUSTICE. - AND IT IS HEARTBREAKING TO SEE - US CONTINUING TO GATHER LIKE. - THIS BUT WE HEARD THIS MORNING - THAT THE FAMILY OF GEORGE FLOYD, - THEY'RE ASKING US TO PLEASE BE - PEACEFUL. - AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS - WE'RE ASKING HERE IN DENVER, IS - PLEASE BE PEACEFUL AND RESPECT - OUR ASK. - >> Woodruff: AND IS THAT, IS - THAT BEING HEARD? - >> BY SOME IT IS. - UNFORTUNATELY, NOT BY ALL. - AN WE'RE HOPING THAT IF YOU - CLAIM TO BE AN ALLY, THAT YOU - WILL START LISTENING TO THE ASKS

- OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY ATLY HERE - IN DENVER, COLORADO. - NOW ORGANIZERS IN DIFFERENT - CITIES AND DIFFERENT STATES MAY - BE DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT - HERE IN DENVER WE ARE ASKING - PEOPLE TO PLEASE KEEP THE PEACE. - >> Woodruff: AND THAT BRINGS - ME BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID A - MOMENT AGO ANNA DEAVERE SMITH, - BECAUSE YOU SAID, THERE IS A - SENSE OF PROGRESS YOU SEE IN THE - MAKEUP OF WHO IS PROTESTING AND - THE MESSAGE THAT IS COMING OUT. - AND YET WE JUST HEARD ROXANE GAY - SAY IT IS HARD BECAUSE IT JUST - KEEPS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER - AGAIN. - >> WELL, NO, I MEAN I SEE A - DIRECT LINE FROM LYNCHING TO - THIS, RIGHT? - LYNCHING IS, I THINK DE FINED AS - EXTRA LEGAL, EXECUTION. - ANDDTHAT'S REALLY WHAT HAPPENED, - RIGHT, CHAUVIN WAS WORKING - OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF WHAT WAS - ACCEPTABLE. - AND I WAS IN THE COURT ROOM IN - LOS ANGELES FOR THAT SECOND - TRIAL AFTER THE RIOTS THERE. - AND I SAW HOW HARD IT IS TO - BRING POLICE OFFICERS TO

- JUSTICE. - HOW HARD IT IS TO PUT THEM IN - JAIL. - WE THOUGHT THAT SECOND TREATMENT - WAS ALSO GOING TO HAVE THEM ALL - WALK AND AS YOU MAY RECALL TWO - DID, AND TWO DID NOT. - AND OF COURSE I WAS IN BALTIMORE - RIGHT AFTER THE BEING AND - KILLING OF FREDDIE GRAY. - AND AGN, YOU KNOW, SO I - UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. - IN MY CITINGS, THE PEACEFUL, THE - PEACEFUL CROWD AND THE MAKE-UP - OF THAT CROWD GIVING ME SOME - HOPE, IT IS ALSO A CALL OUT TO - EDUCATION, QUITE FRANKLY. - RIGHT, IS THE POWER OF EDUCATION - AND THE POWER OF ART TO, YOU - KNOW, INCREASE EMPATHY AND JUST - TEACH PEOPLE MORE ABOUT THE - WORLD. - >> Woodruff: WHAT IS IT GOING - TO TAKE ROXANE GAY, I MEAN I - COME BACK TO WHAT YOU SAID A - MOMENT AGO, AND I REREAD WHAT - YOU WROTE IN THE NEW YORK - SOMETIMES ON SUNDAY. - YOU SAID EVENTUALLY DOCTORS WILL - FIND A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE BUT - BLACK PEOPLE CONTINUE TO WAIT - DESPITE THE IF YOU ILITY OF HOPE - FOR A CURE FOR RACISM. - IT'S BLEAK Z.

- >> IF IS PRETTY BLEAK. - AND I DON'T EVEN MOW WHAT TO DO - WITH THAT. - BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY THERE IS - HOPE BECAUSE OTHERWISE WHAT ARE - WE TELLING OUR CHILDREN AND WHAT - ARE WE TELLING OURSELVES ABOUT - HOW WE'RE GOING TO LIVE OUT THE - REST OF OUR LIVES. - BUT WE NEED SYSTEMIC REFORM. - AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN - EXPECTS THE POLICE TO REFORM - THEMSELVES. - LIKE THE INSTITUTION IS CORRUPT. - AND SO I THINK REFORM IS GOING - TO HAVE TO COME EXTERNALLY AND - WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY - EXPAND OUR IMAGINATIONS TO - REIMAGINE WHAT LAW ENFORCEMENT - MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF RACISM DIDN'T - UNDERPIN IT. - I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN BUT - I DO KNOW THAT WE NEED TO START - HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR - ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THEY NEED - TO START DOING MORE THAN JUST - SIMPLY REINFORCING A POLICE - STATE IN RESPONSE TO THESE KINDS - OF UPRISINGS. - BECAUSE THE PROTESTING IS NOT - GOING TO STOP UNTIL SOMEONE - ACKNOWLEDGES WHY THE PROTESTS - HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE AND - IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN JUST A - SPEECH ABOUT WE SUPPORT PEACUL - PROTESTS.

- PEACEFUL PROTEST IS IMPORTANT - AND NECESSARY AND I AGREE WITH - WHAT TAY SAID. - IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING TO SEE - PEOPLE IGNORING THE BLACK - ORGANIZERS WHO ARE SAYING - PLEASE, STOP T IS NOT HELPING - OUR CAUSE T SAY BUNCH OF KIDS - FROM THE SUBURB, ANARCHISTS AND - PROBABLY WHITE SUPREMACISTS - COMING IN AND PROBABLY, CREATING - THESE PROBLEMS. - AND IT FURTHER SHOWS THAT WE'RE - NOT GOING TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY - BECAUSE EVEN WHEN WE TRY TO - ADVOCATE FOR OURSELVES WHITE - PEOPLE COME IN AND TRY TO RUIN - IT WITH THEIR OWN NONSENSE. - SO IT IS FRUSTRATING. - >> Woodruff: AND TAY ANDERSON, - BACK TO YOU, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE - THAT YOUR GENERATION IS GOING TO - HAVE ANSWERS THAT OUR - GENERATION, THE OLDER GENERATION - CLEARLY HAS NOT HAD? - >> I THINK OUR GENERATION NEEDS - TO ONE, UNDERSTAND THE PORNSES - OF VOTING. - BECAUSE A LOT-- THE IMPORTANCE - OF VOTING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE - CLANG WE WANT TO SEE IS HELD AT - THE BALLOT BOX. - WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT - THERE AND SEEK THE CHANGE THAT - WE WANT TO SEEK. - I THINK OUR GENERATION IS WAKING

- UP. - BUT I ALSO THINK THERE ARE - PEOPLE IN THIS GENERATION THAT - ARE USING THIS MOMENT AND THIS - MOVEMENT FOR A TREND ON TWITTER, - FOR A TIKTOK VIDEO OR TO GO - VIRAL ON SOCIAL MEDIA. - WHICH IS DISGUSTING. - WE SHOULDN'T HAVE WHITE KIDS - COME FRK THE SUBURBS THROWING - STUFF AT POLICE OFFICERS ON OUR - BEHALF TO BE COOL FOR A NICE - TREND. - THAT IS NOT WHAT WE HAVE ASKED - FOR. - AND ST HURTING US MORE THAN IT - IS GOING TO HELP US. - SO HOPEFULLY WHAT I PLAN TO SEE - IN THE FUTURE IS THAT WE ARE - ABLE TO START COMING TOGETHER - AND ACTUALLY START UNDERSTANDING - THAT BLACK LIVES MATTER IS NOT - ABOUT ASKING FOR SPECIAL - PRIVILEGE. - IT'S JUST SAYING BLACK PEOPLE - JUST WANT TO BE SEEN AS HUMANS. - >> Woodruff: WELL, WE HAVE TO - LEAVE THERE. - BUT FOR NOW, TAY ANDERSON, - ROXANE GAY, ANNA DEAVERE SMITH, - THIS IS JUST ONE PART OF A - CONVERSATION THAT CONTINUES. - AND WE THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING - PART OF IT TONIGHT. - THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU. - >> THANK YOU. - >> Woodruff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER - NEWS, U.S. HEALTH OFFICIALS

- VOICED FEARS THAT THE ONGOING - MASS PROTESTS COULD FUEL NEW - COVID-19 INFECTIONS. - THAT CAME AS DEATHS NATIONWIDE - NEARED 105,000, INCLUDING SOME - 26,000 NURSING HOME PATIENTS. - MEANWHILE, THE FLORIDA KEYS - WELCOMED VISITORS FOR THE FIRST - TIME IN TWO MONTHS, WHILE THE - WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION AGAIN - URGED CAUTION IN REOPENING: - >> WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL THIS IS - STILL A KILLER VIRUS AND THERE'S - STILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE - EVERYDAY DYING FROM THIS VIRUS, - SO WE NEED TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY - CAREFUL NOT TO CREATE A SENSE - WHERE VIRUS BY ITS OWN VOLITION - DECIDED TO BECOME LESS - PATHOGENIC THAT IS NOT THE CASE - AT ALL. - >> Woodruff: PARTS OF THE - VATICAN ALSO OPENED FOR THE - FIRST TIME SINCE MARCH, AND - SHOPPERS RETURNED TO LONDON'S - CAMDEN MARKET. - ON WALL STREET TODAY, THE DOW - JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED - 91 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 25,475. - THE NASDAQ ROSE 62 POINTS, AND, - THE S&P 500 ADDED 11. - AND, THE ARTIST CHRISTO, KNOWN - FOR MASSIVE, TEMPORARY PUBLIC

- ARTS DISPLAYS, HAS DIED. - HE PASSED AWAY SUNDAY IN NEW - YORK. - THERE WAS NO WORD ON THE CAUSE. - CHRISTO AND HIS LATE WIFE, - JEANNE-CLAUDE, GAINED FAME FOR - SWADDLING LARGE STRUCTURES IN - FABRIC. - OVER THE YEARS, THEY WRAPPED: - THE REICHSTAG IN BERLIN, A - FAMOUS BRIDGE IN PARIS, AND - FLOATING BARRELS IN LONDON, - AMONG MANY OTHERS. - CHRISTO WAS 84 YEARS OLD. - >> Woodruff: LET'S GO BACK TO - WHERE THIS BEGAN, MINNESOTA. - THE PROBLEMS IN THE TWIN CITIES - WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE THERE GO - MUCH DEEPER THAN THE GEORGE - FLOYD CASE. - OF THE 100 LARGEST METRO AREAS - IN THE COUNTRY, MINNEAPOLIS's - INCOME GAP BETWEEN WHITES AND - AFRICAN-AMERICANS IS THE SECOND - WORST-- NEARLY $ 50,000 A - FAMILY.

- AGAIN, TO SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT - FRED DE SAM LAZARO. - >> Reporter: THE POLICE KILLING - OF GEORGE FLOYD, CAPTURED ON - BYSTANDERS' CELL PHONES. - PEACEFUL PROTESTS THAT QUICKLY - TURNED INTO VIOLENT AND CHAOTIC - RIOTS, REDING ENTIRE CITY - BLOCKSO ASHES. - IN THE MIDDLE OF A DEADLY - PANDEMIC, THE CITY FELL INTO A - VICIOUS DAILY CYCLE: CLEANUPS - UNDER SUNSHINE, AND, BY - NIGHTFALL, VIOLENCE, LOOTING, - AND STANDOFFS WITH ARMED LAW - ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES. - >> SAY HIS NAME! - GEORGE FLOYD! - >> Reporter: ON SUNDAY, THOUGH, - AT THE SITE OF FLOYD'S KILLING, - PROTESTERS GATHERED FOR A - PEACEFUL RALLY. - >> I'VE BEEN HARASSED FOR THE - COLOR OF MY SKIN. - AS FAR AS I CAN REMEMBER. - I MEAN, WHEN I WALK OUT THE - HOUSE, I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT - WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME - TODAY. - >> WHEN I SAW THE VIDEO. I - LITERALLY WEPT.

- AND IT JUST BROKE MY HEART. - AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT COULD - BE MY BROTHERS, THAT COULD BE MY - DAD. - THAT COULD BE ANYBODY. - MY UNCLE, MY COUSINS AND I - COULDN'T NOT COME OUT HEREND - PROTEST THIS INJUSTICE THAT WAS - DONE. - >> Reporter: IN SOME WAYS, - MINNEAPOLIS MAY SEEM LIKE AN - UNLIKELY FLASHPOINT FOR - AMERICA'S WORST URBAN RACE RIOTS - IN DECADES. - 16 FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES HAVE - THEIR HEADQUARTERS HERE IN - MINNESOTA. - THE STATE HAS A REPUTATION OF - ING BOTH PROSPEROUS AND - PROGRESSIVE. - THERE'S A COMMONLY HEARD - EXPRESSION AROUND HERE THAT GOE" - MINNESOTA NICE." - BUT IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES, - YOU'LL HAVE MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT - TH'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. - >> YOU'RE DOING WELL IF YOU'RE - WHITE. - MINNESOTA NICE, IF YOU'RE WHITE. - >> Reporter: MIKE GRIFFIN IS A - COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IN - MINNEAPOLIS. - >> WE NEED THE LEADERSHIP OF - THIS CITY, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE - STATE TO REALLY LEAN IN ON WHAT - ARE THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS THAT - ARE MAKING THIS COMMUNITY SO - ANGRY. - >> Reporter: AMONG THOSE - PROBLEMS: AN EDUCATIONAL

- ACHIEVEMENT GAP THAT IS ONE OF - THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY, A DARK - HISTORY OF DISCRIMINATORY - HOUSING PRACTICES, AND SHARP - INCOME INEQUALITY. - >> WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE - STREETS AS FOLKS SHOW UP IN - PROTEST IS THEIR KIND OF OUTWARD - ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT TRAUMA AND - RAGE LOOK LIKE. - >> Reporter: BRITTANY LEWIS IS A - PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF - MINNESOTA'S CENTER FOR URBAN AND - REGIONAL AFFAIRS. - WE MET HER IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS, - THE MAJORITY-BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD - WHERE SHE GREW UP. - OVER THE WEEKEND, IT WAS THE - SITE OF A MASSIVE FOOD AND - SUPPLY DRIVE FOR RESIDENTS - ALREADY SUFFERING THROUGH THE - CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC, AND NOW - AFTER THE RIOTING THE LOSS OF SO - MANY GROCERY AND RETAIL STORES. - >> YOU ALREADY HAD A COMMUNITY - SUFFERING FROM A LACK OF - RESOURCES, FOOD, COMMUNITY AND - ACCESS. - A LOT OF FOLKS WHO LOST THEIR - JOBS WERE IN THE SERVICE - INDUSTRY, BLACK AND BROWN - PEOPLE. - AND THEN GEORGE FLOYD HAPPENED. - >> Reporter: SHE SAYS LONG - BEFORE GEORGE FLOYD, MINORITIES - IN MINNESOTA HAVE FACED A - DIFFERENT KIND OF - DISCRIMINATION. - >> THERE'S AN OVERT FORM OF - RACISM, RIGHT?

- THAT YOU MIGHT BE USED TO. - BUT THEN THERE'S A SUBTLE A FORM - OF RACISM THAT GIVES YOU THE - IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE WELCOME, - YOU'RE INVITED, WE WANT YOU TO - ENGAGE. - BUT THEN YOU LEARN REALLY - QUICKLY THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT - THEY WANT AT ALL. - >> Reporter: HOWEVER, LEWIS SAYS - THE GEORGE FLOYD KILLING - HIGHLIGHTS THE MOST GLARING AND - CERTAINLY THE MOST RAW EXAMPLE - OF INEQUALITY FOR MANY AFRICAN - AMERICANS-- THE DIFFERENCE IN - HOW THEIR COUNITIES ARE - POLICED. - PHILANDO CASTILE, A 32-YEAR OLD - BLACK MAN WAS FATALLY SHOT - RING A TRAFFIC STOP. - THE YEAR BEFORE, A MINNEAPOLIS - POLICE OFFICER FATALLY SHOT 24- - YEAR-OLD JAMAR CLARK. - BOTH CASES SPARKED OUTRAGE, - PROTESTS AND TALKS OF CHANGE. - AND FOUR YEARS AGO, THE - MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT - PUT IN PLACE NEW POLICIES AIMED - AT REDUCING THE USE OF FORCE AND - REQUIRING OFFICERS TO INTERVENE - IF THEY OBSERVE A COLLEAGUE - BEING ABUSIVE. - >> THIS IS A CYCLE THAT WE

- PERSONALLY HERE HAVE SEEN PLAY - OUT FIVE OR SIX TIMES JUST IN - THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN - MINNEAPOLIS. - >> Reporter: TONY WILLIAMS IS A - MEMBER OF A GROUP WHICH WANTS TO - RADICALLY CHANGE THE CITY'S - APPROACH TO PUBLIC SAFETY. - >> I THINK FOR THOSE OF US WHO - HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS HISTORY - AND THE CULTURE OF POLICING HERE - IN MINNEAPOLIS, IT'S A WATERSHED - MOMENT IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY - THAT'S PROTESTING RIGHT NOW IS - NO LONGER SAYING THAT WE THINK - REFORMS ARE GOING TO FIX THE - UNDERLYING PROBLEMS HERE. - >> Reporter: EVEN POLICE CHIEFS - AROUND THE NATION ARE EXPRESSING - OUTRAGE AND FRUSTRATION OVER - GEORGE FLOYD'S KILLING. - >> I DON'T KNOW OF ONE POLICE - CHIEF IN MINNESOTA WHO HAS - LOOKED AT THAT VIDEO AND SAID - THAT IS THE RIGHT TECHNIQUE. - >> Reporter: ANDY SKOOGMAN IS - THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE - MINNESOTA CHIEFS OF POLICE. - >> FOR ME PERSONALLY, THERE IS A - SAD IRONY IN ALL OF THIS. - I DO BELIEVE THAT MINNESOTA HAS - WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE LAST - 10, 15 YEARS TO IMPROVE - COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

- WE NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT - AND FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN - RECRUIT MORE DIVERSE CANDIDATES, - BUT MORE BETTER QUALITY - CANDIDATES JUST IN GENERAL. - >> Reporter: BUT FOR YOUNG BLACK - MEN IN MINNEAPOLIS, THE FIXES - WILL HAVE TO GO FAR BEYOND - POLICE DEPARTMENTS. - >> I'M GOING TO CALL 911. - >> Reporter: ONE DAY AFTER - GEORGE FLOYD'S KILLING, A WHITE - MAN THREATENED TO CALL THE - POLICE ON A GROUP OF YOUNG BLACK - MEN WHILE THEY WERE ALL WORKING - OUT IN USING THEIR OFFICE - BUILDING'S GYM. - >> THE THREAT OF, YOU KNOW, I'M - GONNA CALL 911. - YOU KNOW FOR A BLACK PERSON, IF - YOU SAID TO A BLACK PERSON IN - AMERICA NOW IS ESSENTIALLY, TO A - CERTAIN EXTENT A DEATH THREAT. - >> Reporter: 24 YEAR-OLD AI - HASSAN SAYS THE SITUATION - QUICKLY ESLATED WHEN THE MAN - BEGAN TAKING THEIR PICTURES. - >> I THINK IF IT WASN'T FOR HIM - TAKING PICTURES, WE WOULD HAVE - NEVER THOUGHT TO PULL OUT OUR - PHONE AND START RECORDING, YOU - KNOW? - SO AS SOON AS HE STARTED TAKING

- PICTURES IS WHEN OUR PHONES CAME - OUT. - >> Reporter: HASSAN'S COLLEAGUE, - 22 YEAR-OLD ZAK AHMED, RECORDED - AND POSTED THE INTERACTION - ONLINE. - TE VIDEO SOON WENT VIRAL AND - THE WHITE MAN WHO HAD CONFRONTED - THEM WAS KICKED OUT OF THE - BUILDING. - >> RACISM THAT YOU FACE ON A DAY - TO DAY, WE JUST AS A BLACK - PERSON, YOU JUST LEARN TO DEAL - WITH THOSE THINGS AND NOT, YOU - KNOW, MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF - THEM. - BUT I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD START - RECORDING THESE THINGS SO THAT, - YOU KNOW ONE BY ONE, WE CAN STOP - YOU KNOW ONE BY ONE, WE CAN STOP - THIN LIKE THIS FROM HAPPENING - IN THE FUTURE. - >> Reporter: BUT AFTER A - VOLATILE AND CHAOTIC WEEK, - UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA - PROFESSOR BRITTANY LEWIS IS - UNCERTAIN ABOUT THAT FUTURE. - >> I FEAR THIS IS NOT TAKEN - SERIOUSLY. - >> Reporter: EVEN NOW? - >> Reporter: EVEN NOW, I'M NOT - GOING TO LIE TO YOU. - I'M WORRIED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW - PEOPLE ARE WE'RE STILL IN THE - FEELINGS OF PROTEST AND RAGE. - BUT THERE'S STILL A TRIAL. - THERE'S STILL-- WE'RE-- THIS IS

- A LONG ROAD. - >> Reporter: FOR THE PBS - NEWSHOUR I'M FRED DE SAM LAZARO - IN MINNEAPOLIS. - >> THANK YOU, FRED. AND STAY - WITH US AS PRESIDENT TRUMP WALKS - FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO - ST. JOHN'S CHURCH FOR AN UNUSUAL - PHOTO OPPORTUNITY. - BUT FIRST TAKE A MOMENT TO HEAR - FROM YOUR LOCAL PBS STATION - THIS COMMUNITY AND THE KILLING - HAS TO STOP.

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