PBS NewsHour; Friday, July 22, 2022, 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

JUDY: GOOD EVENING. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ON THE NEWSHOUR TONIGHT, THE LATEST HEARING. THE COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING THE CAPITOL INSURRECTION ACCUSES FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP OF DERELICTION OF DUTY FOR IGNORING PLEAS TO CALL OFF THE MOB. >> IF THE PRESIDENT HAD WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND ADDRESS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, HE COULD HAVE BEEN ON CAMERA ALMOST INSTANTLY. JUDY: THEN, THE INVASION'S IMPACT. RUSSIA AND UKRAINE REACH AN AGREEMENT TO RESUME GRAIN SHIPMENTS OUT OF THE REGION, ALLEVIATING SOME OF THE FOOD INSECURITY WROUGHT BY THE WAR. JUDY: AND IT'S FRIDAY. DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART WEIGH IN ON THE JANUARY 6 HEARINGS AND THE DEMOCRATS' IMPERILED CLIMATE AGENDA. ALL THAT AND MORE ON TONIGHT'S PBS NEWSHOUR. >> MAJOR FUNDING FOR THE "PBS NEWSHOUR" HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY

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STATION FROM VIEWERS LIKE YOU. THANK YOU. JUDY: A FEDERAL JURY IN WASHINON, D.C. HAS CONVICTED STEVE BANNON OF CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS. THE FORMER TRUMP ADVISOR HAD DEFIED SUBPOENAS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE. THE JURY TOOK LESS THAN THREE HOURS TODAY TO FIND BANNON GUILTY, BUT AFTERWARD, HE INSISTED HE'LL WIN ON APPEAL. >> WE MAY HAVE LOST A BA HERE TODAY, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE THIS WAR. OK? I STAND WITH TRUMP AND THE CONSTITUTION, AND I WILL NEVER BACK OFF THAT, EVER. JUDY: THE TWO MISDEMEANOR COUNTS CARRY A MAXIMUM PENALTY OF TWO YEARS IN JAIL AND $200,000 IN FINES. PRESIDENT BIDEN'S MILD COVID SYMPTOMS ARE SAID TO BE IMPROVING TONIGHT. THE WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN SAYS HE'S RESPONDING WELL TO TREATMENT. THE WHITE HOUSE SHOWED MR. BIDEN TODAY IN A VIRTUAL MEETING WITH ECONOMIC ADVISORS. HIS VOICE WAS RAGGED, BUT HE SAID HE FELT

BETTER THAN HE SOUNDED. LATER, THE PRESIDENT'S COVID COORDINATOR SAID THE KEY IS STILL BEING FULLY VACCINATED AND BOOSTED. >> WE ARE NOW AT A POINT, I BELIEVE, WHERE WE CAN PREVENT NEARLY EVERY COVID DEATH IN AMERICA. THAT IS A REMARKABLE FACT. SO IF YOU'RE VACCINATED BUT HAVE NOT GOTTEN A BOOSTER, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO GO AND GET A BOOSTER. JUDY: WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS ALSO SAY THEY HAVE INFORMED 17 PEOPLE DEEMED TO HAVE BEEN CLOSE CONTACTS OF THE PRESIDENT. PARTS OF THE DEEP SOUTH AND THE NORTHEASTERN U.S. HAVE SUFFERED THROUGH ANOTHER DAY OF DANGEROUSLY HIGH TEMPERATURES. UTILITIES PROJECTED RECORD-HIGH POWER USAGE, WITH AIR CONDITIONERS RUNNING FULL BLAST. MEANWHILE, FIRES FED BY HIGH HEAT ARE STILL BURNING IN SEVERAL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. AERIAL WATER DROPS HAVE HELPED FIRE CREWS MAKE SLOW PROGRESS. RUSSIA AND UKRAINE TODAY SIGNED BREAKTHROUGH AGREEMENTS TO START

SHIPPING UKRAINIAN GRAIN THROUGH THE BLACK SEA, FREE FROMUSSIAN ATTACK. THE PLAN ALSO LETS RUSSIA EXPORT GRAIN AND FERTILIZER. THE WARRING COUNTRIES SAT DOWN SEPARATELY FOR THE SIGNING CEREMONY IN ISTANBUL, TUIYE. U.N. SECRETARY GENERAL ANTONIO GUTERRES SAID THE GRAIN IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. >> TODAY, THERE IS A BEACON ON THE BLACK SEA. A BEACON OF HOPE, A BEACON OF POSSIBILITY. IT WILL BRING RELIEF FOR DEVELOPING COUNTRIES ON THE EDGE OF BANKRUPTCY AND THE MOST VULNERABLE PEOPLE ON THE EDGE OF FAMINE. JUDY: WE'LL RETURN TO THIS LATER IN THE PROGRAM. IN SRI LANKA, TROOPS AND POLICE VIOLENTLY CLEARED THE MAIN PROTESTERS' CAMP IN THE CAPITAL OVERNIGHT. THE SECURITY FORCES DISMANTLED BARRICADES AFTER THE NEW PRESIDENT ORDERED THE CAMP REMOVED. PROTESTERS SAID A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WERE HURT, INCLUDING TWO JOURNALISTS. THE PROTESTERS SAY THE NEW

LEADER SHARES BLAME FOR SRI LANKA'S ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN LEE ZELDIN IS BACK CAMPAIGNING FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK AFTER BEING ATTACKED THURSDAY. IT HAPPENED AT A RALLY NEAR ROCHESTER. A MAN CAME ON STAGE AND RAISED A SHARP OBJECT BEFORE ZELDIN GRABBED HIS ARM AND OTHERS DRAGGED HIM DOWN. THE MAN WAS CHARGED WITH ATTEMPTED ASSAULT. ZELDIN WAS UNHURT. CALIFORNIA'S GOVERNOR TODAY SIGNED A BILL THAT EFFECTIVELY ALLOWS PRIVATE CITIZENS TO ENFORCE GUN LAWS. IT PAYS AT LEAST $10,000 FOR SUCCESSFUL LAWSUITS AGAINST THOSE WHO DISTRIBUTE ILLEGAL ASSAULT WEAPONS, AMONG OTHER THINGS. THE LAW IS PATTERNED AFTER A TEXAS STATUTE THAT LETS CITIZENS SUE ANYONE WHO PROVIDES AN ABORTION. AND WALL STREET ENDED THE WEEK WITH A THUD AFTER DISAPPOINTING DATA ON THE GLOBAL ECONOMY. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST 137 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 31,899. THE NASDAQ FELL 225 POINTS, NEARLY 2%.

THE S&P 500 DROPPED 1%. BUT FOR THE WEEK, ALL THREE INDEXES WERE UP 2% TO 3%. STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR, REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ADVOCATES PUSH FOR APPROVAL OF A NEW OVER-THE-COUNTER CONTRACEPTIVE. DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART WEIGH IN ON THE WEEK'S POLITICAL NEWS. A PHOTOGRAPHER WORKS TO CAPTURE LIGHTHOUSES THREATENED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. PLUS, MUCH MORE. >> THIS IS THE M WETA STUDIOS IN WASHINGTON, AND IN THE WEST FROM THE WALTER CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AT ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY. JUDY: E CONCLUDED ITS FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC HEARINGS LAST NIGHT WITH A NEARLY THREE HOUR PRESENTATION CENTERED ON A CRUCIAL 187 MINUTES ON THAT DAY. FEATURED FIRST-HAND ACCOUNTS INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.

LISA: CENTERSTAGE AT LAST NIGHTS HEARINGS, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S INACTION AS HIS SUPPORTERS CARRIED IT OUT. LAW ENFORCEMENT FEARED FOR THEIR LIVES. >> >> THEY'RE TAKING THE BUILDING. HOLD. HARDEN THAT DOOR UP. IF YOU ARE MOVING, WE NEED TO MOVE NOW. >> COPY. >> IF WE LOSE ANY MORE TIME, WE MAY HAVE -- WE MAY LOSE THE ABILITY TO -- TO LEAVE. LISA: ONE JARRING MOMENT, LISTENING TO THE SECRET SERVICE RADIO FOR HELP. TESTIMONY FROM A SECRET SERVICE AGENT, WHOSE IDENTITY WAS PROTECTED, CAPTURED THE FEAR IN THE VICE PRESIDENT'S DETAIL. >> THERE WAS A LOT OF YELLING, A A LOT OF -- A LOT OF VERY PERSONAL CALLS OVER THE RADIO, SO IT WAS DISTURBING. I DON'T LIKE TALKING ABOUT IT. BUT THERE -- THERE WERE CALLS TO SAY GOODBYE TO FAMILY MEMBERS, SO ON AND SO FORTH. IT WAS GETTING -- FOR WHATEVER THE REASON WAS ON THE GROUND,

THE V.P. DETAIL THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS ABOUT TO GET VERY UGLY. LISA: IN THE HEARING ROOM, LAWMAKERS WHO WERE AT THE CAPITOL THAT DAY HELD ON TO ONE ANOTHER AND SHOWED DISMAY AT THE FOOTAGE. THE COMMITTEE SHOWED THAT AS THE ATTACK RAGED, THOSE AROUND TRUMP WERE URGING HIM TO CALL FOR THE MOB TO STOP. PAT CIPOLLONE WAS THE PRESIDENT'S TOP WHITE HOUSE LAWYER. >> I WAS PRETTY CLEAR THERE NEEDED TO BE AN IMMEDIATE AND FORCEFUL RESPONSE, STATEMENT, PUBLIC STATEMENT, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEAVE THE CAPITOL NOW. LISA: EVEN THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S OWN SON, DON JR., TEXTED WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF MARK MEADOWS. >> AT 2:53, HE WROTE, "HE'S GOT TO CONDEMN THIS ASAP. THE CAPITOL POLICE TWEET IS NOT ENOUGH." MR. MEADOWS REPLIED, "I AM PUSHING IT HAR I AGREE." LISA: THE COMMITTEE USED A MAP TO SHOW WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP WATCHED THE ATTACK LIVE ON TELEVISION, FROM THE WHITE HOUSE DINING ROOM. FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS AIDE

SARAH MATTHEWS STRESSED THAT LOCATION. >> HE COULD HAVE BEEN ON CAMERA ALMOST INSTANTLY. IF HE HAD WANTED TO MAKE AN ADDRESS FROM THE OVAL OFFICE, WE COULD HAVE ASSEMBLED THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS PROBABLY IN A MATTER OF MINUTES TO GET THEM INTO THE OVAL FOR HIM TO DO AN ON CAMERA ADDRESS. JUDY: FORMER DEPUTY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MATT POTTINGER SPOKE ABOUT ONE OF TRUMP'S FEW ACTIONS TO SEND OUT A TWEET CRITICIZING VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> SO THE TWEET LOOKED TO ME LIKE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE REALLY NEEDED AT THAT MOMENT, WHICH WAS A DE-ESCALATION. AND THAT'S WHY I HAD SAID EARLIER THAT IT LOOKED LIKE FUEL BEING POURED ON THE FIRE. SO THAT WAS THE MOMENT THAT I DECIDED THAT I WAS GOING TO RESIGN. JUDY: THE HEARING ALSO SHOWED REMARKABLE FOOTAGE OF THE LEADERS AT THE CAPITOL. SENATE REPUBLICAN LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL AND DEMOCRATIC LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER WERE PUSHING TO CALL CONGRESS BACK TO SESSION. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET THESE PEOPLE KEEP US FROM FINISHING OUR BUSINESS. SO WE NEED YOU TO GET THE BUILDING CLEARED. >> WHAT IS THE EARLIEST THAT WE COULD SAFELY RESUME OUR PROCEEDINGS IN THE SENATE AND

HOUSE CHAMBERS? THE EARLIEST WE COULD SAFELY RESUME. LISA: THE COMMITTEE SHOWED THE VIDEO TRUMP RECORDED THREE HOURS AFTER LEARNING OF THE ATTACK, THAT HE WENT OFF SCRIPT AND SPOKE LOVINGLY OF THE CROWD. >> WE HAVE TO HAVE PEACE. SO GO HOME. WE LOVE YOU. YOU'RE VERY SPECIAL. YOU'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS. YOU SEE THE WAY OTHERS ARE TREATED THAT ARE SO BAD AND SO EVIL. I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, BUT GO HOME AND GO HOME IN PEACE. LISA: NEW FOOTAGE SHOWED THAT THE NEXT DAY, AS HE RECORDED ANOTHER VIDEO, TRUMP STILL REFUSED TO ACCEPT HIS LOSS. >> BUT THIS ELECTION IS NOW OVER. CONGRESS HAS CERTIFIED THE RESULTS. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THE ELECTION'S OVER. I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRESS HAS CERTIFIED THE RESULTS, WITHOUT SAYING THE ELECTION'S OVER. OK? LISA: HE WAS DEFIANT AGAIN LAST NIGHT. THE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP RESPONDED TO THE HEARING ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA SITE TRUTH SOCIAL, AGAIN SPOUTING FALSEHOOD AND WRITING -- "I HAD AN ELECTION RIGGED AND STOLEN FROM ME AND FROM OUR

COUNTRY." OVERALL, LAST NIGHT THE COMMITTEE DRILLED DOWN ON TRUMP'S DERELICTION OF DUTY, AS IT CALLED IT, WORKING TO ISOLATE HIM AS A PROBLEM, BOTH PAST AND ONGOING. >> EVERY AMERICAN MUST CONSIDER THIS. CAN A PRESIDENT WHO IS WILLING TO MAKE THE CHOICES DONALD TRUMP MADE DURING THE VIOLENCE OF JANUARY 6 EVER BE TRUSTED WITH ANY POSITION OF AUTHORITY IN OUR GREAT NATION AGAIN? >> IT IS A STAIN ON OUR HISTORY. IT IS A DISHONOR TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE SACRIFICED AND DIED IN SERVICE OF OUR DEMOCRACY. LISA: THE PANEL PLANS TO RESUME ITS HEARINGS IN SEPTEMBER. FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M LISA DESJARDINS. JUDY: FOR MORE REACTION TO AND ANALIS OF LAST NIGHT'S HEARING, I'M JOINED BY TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING IT CLOSELY. FORMER DEMOCRATIC UNITED STATES SENATOR FROM ALABAMA, DOUG JONES. AND FORMER REPLICAN U.S.

REPRESENTATIVE FROM VIRGINIA, BARBARA COMSTOCK. WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM TO BOTH OF YOU. BEFORE I ASK YOU ABOUT LAST NIGHT'S HEARING, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT TODAY'S NEWS, SENATOR JONES, THAT STEVE BANNON WAS FOUND GUILTY BY A FEDERAL JURY OF CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS FOR REFUSING TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BY -- FROM THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE. WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT? >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, JUDY. I APPRECIATE IT. THIS JURY STRUCK A BLOW FOR DEMOCRACY. THEY STRUCK A BLOW FOR TRUTH AND ACCOUNTABILITY. THEY STRUCK A BLOW FOR THE INSTITUTIONS OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH HAVE BEEN UNDER ATTACK IN THIS COUNTRY AT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND UNDER ATTACK BY STEVE ANNAN. THE FACT THAT BANNON WAS FOUND GUILTY OF FLAUNTING THE SUBPOENA SENDS A SIGNIFICANT MESSAGE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. BANNON THE OTHER DAY OUTSIDE THE COURTROOM CHALLENGED BENNIE THOMPSON, SAID HE WAS GUTLESS. REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH IN

HIS CRIMINAL TRIAL. BUT BANNON IS THE GUTLESS ONE. HE WAS GUTLESS WHEN HE REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH, HE WAS GUTLESS WHEN HE REFUSED TO TESTIFY AT HIS TRIAL. HE IS THE COWARD AND STANDS BEHIND A MICROPHONE OR RADIO AND SPITS OUT THINGS THAT ARE ANTIDEMOCRATIC, ANTI-AMERICAN. JUDY: THIS FIRST CONVICTION OF SOMEBODY CLOSE TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP BASED ON THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE, HOW SIGNIFICANT? >> VERY SIGNIFICANT. BEFORE I WAS IN CONGRESS, I WAS A CONGRESSIONAL COUNSEL. THIS IS FOR THE RIGHTS OF CONGRESS, ASSERTING THEIR RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE. SO I THINK IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT THAT NOW CONGRESS CAN PLAY ITS ROLE IN ASSERTING ITS RIGHT TO INVESTIGATE SO THE GUTLESS STEVE BANNON, WHO WAS SO CRITICAL IN THIS INSURRECTION -- WE KNOW STEVE BANNON WAS CALLING THE PRESIDENT ALL DURING CHRISTMAS TIME, SAYING, GET IN

THERE AND BE RUNNING THIS INSURRECTION, WHICH WE KNOW STEVE BANNON WAS VERY MUCH INVOLVED IN. I THINK STEVE BANNON IS GOING TO HAVE MORE LIABILITY IN THIS BECAUSE HE WAS TELLING DONALD TRUMP TO COME BACK AND BE INVOLVED IN THIS JANUARY 6 THING. REMEMBER, THE NIGHT BEFORE STEVE BANNON WAS SAYING, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT YOU THINK IT. ALL HELL IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE. NOW WE KNOW THAT IN SEPTEMBER, STEVE BANNON WAS ON TAPE SAYING EVEN IF DONALD TRUMP LOSES, HE IS GOING TO SAY HE IS GOING TO WIN. THERE ARE ALL KIND OF DOCUMENTS, RECORDS, BANK RECORDS THAT WE NEED TO GET FROM STEVE BANNON. NOW CONGRESS CAN ASSERT ITS AUTHORITY. I THINK STEVE BANNON IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE TROUBLE. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO MEDIEVAL, AND I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT CONGRESS IS GOING TO GO MEDIEVAL IN TERMS OF GETTING THESE RECORDS ON THIS GUY, WHO I THINK IS VERY MUCH AN INSURRECTIONIST AND WAS VERY KEY

AND INVOLVED IN THIS WHOLE PLOT TO OVERTHROW AN ELECTION. JUDY: AND DOUG JONES, LET'S TURN NOW TO THESE HEARINGS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE COMMITTEE HAS ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR? >> I THINK THEY HAVE GONE FAR ABOVE THEIR EXPECTATIONS. THEY HAVE REALLY PUT TOGETHER A COMPELLING STORY, AND FACTUALLY ACCURATE, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER JANUARY 6. THEY HAVE DONE IT NOT IN A PARTISAN WAY. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS WAS ALL ABOUT GETTING DONALD TRUMP. IT WAS NOT. IT WAS ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND GETTING TO THE TRUTH OF WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 A HOW IT WAS PLANNED, WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT DAY, AND WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY AS WE SPEAK. I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB OF CONNECTING ALL THE DOTS. REALLY, ALL OF THOSE DOTS LEAD BACK TO DONALD TRUMP IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER.

JUDY: BARBARA COMSTOCK, THE COMMITTEE WAS ABOUT DESCRIBING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ROLE, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ROLE IN ALL THIS. BUT IN THE END, IF THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM ARE NOT WATCHING THESE HEARINGS, WHICH THEY SAY THEY ARE NOT, HOW MUCH HEADWAY CAN THE COMMITTEE MAKE? >> WHAT HAS BEEN SO CRITICAL IN THIS INVESTIGATION, IT HAS BEEN DONALD TRUMP'S OWN PRESIDENTIAL STAFF, HIS CAMPAIGN STAFF, AND HIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT STAFF UNEQUIVOCALLY AND CONSISTENTLY CONDEMNING HIM UNDER OATH AND FACTUALLY. THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. THEY HAVE MADE THE CASE THROUGH CONTEMPORANEOUS DOCUMENTS, TEXTS, SAYING WE TOLD HIM HE LOST, HE CONTINUALLY REFUSED TO ACCEPT IT. HIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER SAID HE LOST. HIS ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID HE LOST. HIS OWN WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL AGAIN AND AGAIN SAID HE LOST. THEY TOLD HIM NOT TO GO TO THE

CAPITAL. THEY TOLD HIM NOT TO SAY THE THINGS THAT HE SAID. THEN THOSE 187 MINUTES WHEN HE REFUSED TO DO ANYTHING, THEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN. HIS OWN F VICE PRESIDENT SAID HE LOST. HIS OWN DAUGHTER, HIS OWN SON SAYING, YOU'VE GOT TO SAY MORE. IT IS HIS OWN PEOPLE SAYING YOU LOST. SO YOU ARE SEEING THIS SORE LOSER AGAIN AND AGAIN BEING TOLD BY HIS OWN PEOPLE. SO I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG CASE OF CRIMINAL LIABILITY. SO I CERTAINLY HOPE THE JUSTICE PARTMENT WILL TAKE THIS UP. JUDY: THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU BOTH ABOUT. DOUG JONES, WHAT AMOUNTS TO SUCCESS FOR THIS COMMITTEE? IS IT WHETHER IN THE END THERE IS A PROSECUTION OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP OR NOT? >> NO, I DON'T THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A CONSIDERATION FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMITTEE. THIS COMMITTEE HAS SUCCEEDED. THIS COMMITTEE HAS SUCCEEDED IN

PUTTING FORTH THE FACT IN A VERY COMPELLING WAY. IN FACT, AS BARBARA SAID, FROM TRUMP'S INNER CIRCLE, FACTS THAT SHOWED A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY AND HOW FRAGILE OUR DEMOCRACY IS AND HOW WE ALMOST LOST IT ON JANUARY 6, AND EFFORTS STILL TODAY. I DON'T THINK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS REALLY WORKING VERY HARD, THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT ALL THESE PIECES TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT COULD BE PRESENTED IN A COURT OF LAW. IT IS A FAR DIFFERENT BODY THAN WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE OF WHAT CAN BE ADMISSIBLE TO A COURT OF LAW. I THINK THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT AN INDICTMENT IS THE BAROMETER OF THE SUCCESS OF THE COMMITTEE. THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED FAR AND ABOVE WHAT I BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD. JUDY: BARBARA COMSTOCK, HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE SUCCESS FOR THIS COMMITTEE? >> I WOULD AGREE WITH DOUG THAT IT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS AN INDICTMENT. I ALSO THINK THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT, I DO EXPECT THEY WILL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ALSO. I AGREE IT IS SUCCESSFUL REGARDLESS BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE SEEN WHAT A SORE LOSER, A PROFILE IN COWARDICE DONALD TRUMP IS, WHILE WE HAVE ALSO SEEN LIZ CHENEY BEING A PROFILE ENCOURAGE, AND MANY OF OUR CAPITOL POLICE, HOW COURAGEOUS THEY WERE WHILE YOU WERE SEEING SOMEONE LIKE JOSH HAWLEY RUNNING AWAY AND LETTING OUR CAPITOL POLICE HAVE TO BE BEATEN FOR HOURS WHILE DONALD TRUMP WAS JUST SITTING THERE WATCHING THIS VIOLENCE GO ON. I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL ON THAT FRONT. I ALSO EXPECT THERE WILL BE LOTS MORE EVIDENCE COMING FORWARD. WE HAVE SEEN THESE COURAGEOUS YOUNG WOMEN THAT DONALD TRUMP CONTINUES TO ATTACK AND THEY GET DEATH THREATS. BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE DAILY COMING FORWARD WHO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FILL

OUT THIS RECORD, AND I DO THINK THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ABLE TO FILL IN THOSE GAPS. AND I EXPECT WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE INDICTMENTS AND CONTINUE TO HAVE CONVICONS LIKE WE HAD TODAY WITH STEVE BANNON. JUDY: FORMER REPUBLICAN CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA COMSTOCK, FORMER DEMOCRATIC SENATOR DOUG JONES. WE THANK YOU BOTH. >> THANK YOU. JUDY: TODAY, RUSSIA AND UKRAINE SIGNED AGREEMENTS THAT CLEAR THE WAY FOR EXPORTING MILLIONS OF TONS OF DESPERATELY NEEDED UKRAINIAN GRAIN, AS WELL AS GUARANTEEING RUSSIAN EXPORTS OF ITS GRAIN AND FERTILIZERS. UKRAINE IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S LARGEST EXPORTERS OF WHEAT, CORN, AND SUNFLOWER OIL. CUTTING OFF ITS SUPPLY HAD SENT GRAIN PRICES HIGHER WORLDWIDE AND THREATENED GLOBAL FOOD SECURITY, COMPOUNDING FAMINE IN PARTS OF AFRICA.

JOHN YANG HAS MORE. JOHN: JUDY, THE DEAL AIMS TO END A WARTIME STANDOFF THAT'S HAD SOME 20 MILLION TONS OF GRAIN STUCK IN UKRAINIAN PORTS SINCE THE RUSSIAN INVASION. THREE UKRAINIAN PORTS WILL NOW BE OPEN. SHIPMENTS HAVE BEEN BLOCKED BY BOTH A RUSSIAN NAVAL BLOCKADE AND UKRAINE'S USE OF MINES TO DEFEND THE PORTS. TODAY'S AGREEMENT GUARANTEES SAFE PASSAGE FOR UKRAINIAN VESSELS FROM THE PORTS, OVERSEEN BY A COORDINATION CENTER IN TURKIYE. EARLIER I SPOKE WITH A KEY NEGOTIATOR, U.N. UNDER SECRETARY MARTIN GRIFFITHS. I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE AGREEMENT. >> THE PRINCIPAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR US IS OF COURSE THE CONTRIBUTION TO REDUCING FOOD INSECURITY AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS AN AGREEMENT FOR THE WORLD. IT IS NOT AN AGREEMENT JUST FOR UKRAINE OR RUSSIA, OR EVEN EUROPE. AND IF I AM RIGHT, WE HAVE SEEN GRAIN AND WHEAT PRICES GO DOWN TODAY BY 4% OR 5% BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT.

THE TWO WAYS IN WHICH THIS FOOD INSECURITY AROUND THE WORLD, WHICH HAS BEEN SO ATTRIBUTABLE IN LARGE PART TO THE UKRAINE MOWAR, IS THAT THERE WILL BE MUH MORE GRAIN AND FERTILIZERS IN THE MARKET FOR BOTH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE. BUT ALSO THEY WILL REDUCE THE PRICE. I CANNOT THINK OF AN EXAMPLE OF AN AGREEMENT MEDIATED BETWEEN THE TWO WARRING PARTIES IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOT WAR PRODUCING A BENEFIT THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO GLOBAL WELFARE. I DON'T THINK THAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. IT WAS ALSO AN AGREEMENT MADE BY THE TWO PARTIES. THAT SHOWS THEY CAN DO THAT. THEY CAN NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT. JOHN: HOW SOON DO YOU THINK GRAIN WILL START LEAVING UKRAINIAN PORTS? AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANT, HOW SOON WILL THE EFFECTS BE FELT IN

THE AREAS SUFFERING FROM FAMINE NOW? >> UKRAINIANS WERE TELLING US HERE TODAY THAT THERE PORTS WOULD BE READY TO EXPORT GRAIN WITHIN TWO OR THREE DAYS. THEY ARE READY. THEY ARE READY TO GO. THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY SAFE SHIPPING LANES, THEN THE CORRIDOR ACROSS THE BLACK SEA THAT HAS TO BE DONE WITH OUR JOINT COORDINATION CENTER. GETTING INSPECTION TEAMS READY IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS. IMPACT ON PLACES OF FAMINE, OF COURSE, IT DEPENDS WHERE THOSE ARE. THE ONE TOP OF MY AGENDA ARE THE HORN, WHERE WE SEE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE PROSPECTS IN SOMALIA. I THINK WE WILL SEE IMMEDIATELY PRICES TAPERING DOWN, WHICH WILL BE FELT BY PEOPLE IN THOSE AREAS OF CONFLICT. FAMINE IS A BIT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST A PRICE ISSUE. IT IS ALSO GETTING PRODUCE. AND GETTING WHEAT SAY FROM

ODESSA TO EGYPT OR THROUGH TO SUDAN OR SOMETHING TAKES WEEKS AND WEEKS. SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE MARKET IMMEDIATELY, BUT THERE ARE SOME PLACES -- THIS IS WHAT IS SO BAD ABOUT THIS YEAR -- WHO ARE ALREADY PERHAPS BEYOND THE POINT WHERE THIS CAN DELIVER. JOHN: THIS AGREEMENT HAS DEALS WITH GRAIN THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN HARVESTED. IT HAS BEEN SITTING IN THE PORTS. BUT THERE HAS BEEN GREAT DESTRUCTION TO ONE OF THE GREAT BREAD BASKETS OF THE WORLD AND THE FARMLAND IN UKRAINE. HOW MUCH OF A PROBLEM WILL THAT PRESENT IN THE FUTURE, THE DAMAGE AND DISTRACTION TO FARMLAND IN UKRAINE? >> THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT GETTING TRACTOR SPARES AND SO ON BACK INTO UKRAINE AND TO RUSSIA. THIS CAME UP FROM TIME TO TIME IN THIS NEGOTIATION, WHERE WE

SAID WE ARE JUST NEGOTIATING GRAIN OUT IN THEM -- GRAIN OUT AT THE MOMENT. WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT THE PRIORITY. BUT IF THE PARTIES AGREE AND BUILD CONFIDEN, THEY CAN START IMPORTING STUFF INTO UKRAINE TO DO THE JOB THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE HAVE A FEW ILLUSIONS THAT THIS IS STOPPING THE WAR. THIS IS JUST GETTING THE GRAIN OUT. I THINK THAT THE PARTIES CAN AGREE TO THIS MEANS MAYBE THERE WILL COME A TIME THAT THIS CONFIDENCE BETWEEN THEM CAN MAKE THEM AGREE TO OTHER THINGS, TOO. WE ARE BEGINNING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. JOHN: YOU MENTIONED ALSO THERE IS A PIECE OF THIS ABOUT RUSSIAN GRAIN AND RUSSIAN FERTILIZER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO US? >> THERE WERE TWO AGREEMENTS SIGNED TODAY. WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THAT IS REMOVING IMPEDIMENTS TO THE EXPORT OF GRAIN AND FERTILIZER FROM RUSSIA. AS YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT

SANCTIONED ANYWAY, SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT REMOVING SANCTIONS, BUT IT IS REMOVING IMPEDIMENTS. EVEN IF YOU ON'T HAVE A SANCTION, BANKS WILL NOT GET INVOLVED IN TRADING OUT THE GRAIN AND FERTILIZER FROM RUSSIA. IT IS ABOUT STATEMENTS BY THE U.S. AND THE EU THAT RAIN AND FERTILIZER, PLEASE EXPORT THEM. JOHN: THE SECRETARY-GENERAL REFERRED TO THIS AS A BEACON OF HOPE AND A BEACON OF POSSIBILITY. YOU ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE UNUSUAL ASPECT OF THIS, THAT THIS IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN WARRING PARTIES. COULD THIS ALSO SHOWS SOME HOPE AND SOME POSSIBILITY OF OTHER AREAS OF NEGOTIATION, OTHER AREAS OF AGREEMENT? >> I HOPE SO. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THIS WILL ENCOURAGE US, TURKIYE, THE PARTIES, TO THINK OF FURTHER HUMANITARIAN AREAS WHERE WE CAN FIND BETTER AGREEMENTS. THERE ARE A LOT OF PARTS OF

UKRAINE WHERE MILITARY ACCESS IS LIMITED BECAUSE OF THE FIGHTING AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO GET DATA ACROSS LINES. LET'S LOOK TO HUMANITARIAN BENEFITS IN THE WAR, THEN LET'S DREAM A LITTLE ABOUT WHETHER WE COULD MOVE FROM THERE. JOHN: MARTIN GRIFFITHS, THE U.N. UNDER SECRETARY-GENERAL FOR HUMANITARIAN AFFAIRS AND RELIEF COORDINATOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANKS, JOHN. JUDY: THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED A BILL YESTERDAY GUARANTEEING WOMEN THE RIGHT TO BUY AND USE CONTRACEPTIVES WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS, NO MATTER WHAT A STATE GOVERNMENT MAY DECIDE TO DO. IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THE BILL WILL PASS THE SENATE AS WELL. BUT MANY ADVOCATES FOR REPRODUCTIVE ACCESS SAY IT'S TIME TO CODIFY SUCH PROTECTIONS INTO FEDERAL LAW IN THE WAKE OF THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION TO OVERTURN ROE V. WADE. AND SOME HAVE LONG CALLED FOR AN OVER-THE-COUNTER CONTRACEPTIVE

THAT WOMEN CAN GET WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION. AMNA NAWAZ LOOKS AT HOW THAT COULD BE CHANGING SOON. AMNA: JUDY, WOMEN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET BIRTH CONTROL PILLS WITH A PRESCRIPTION FOR SIX DECADES. BUT UNLIKE MANY OTHER COUNTRIES -- OVER 100 OF THEM -- THE U.S. STILL HAS NOT AUTHORIZED AN OVER-THE-COUNTER OPTION YET. NOW, A FRENCH DRUG MAKER, HRA PHARMA, IS ASKING THE FDA TO APPROVE A DAILY BIRTH CONTROL PILL OFFERED OVER THE COUNTER FOR THE FIRST TIME. THE SAME PILL WAS APPROVED BY PRESCRIPTION ONLY IN 1973, BUT HAS NOT BEEN MARKETED IN THE U.S. FOR OVER A DECADE. IT'S A PROGESTIN-ONLY PILL CALLED OPILL. THE FDA'S REVIEW MAY TAKE 10 MONTHS OR SO. DR. JENNIFER VILLAVICENCIO HEADS EQUITY TRANSFORMATION FOR THE AMERICAN COLLEGE OF OBSTETRICIANS AND GYNECOLOGISTS, OR ACOG, AND SHE JOINS ME NOW. WELCOME TO THE NEWSHOUR. LET'S START WITH YOUR VIEW ON THIS. SHOULD THE FDA APPROVE THIS

OVER-THE-COUNTER STATUS? >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. AND AS A BOARD-CERTIFIED OBSTETRICIAN AND GYNECOLOGIST, I AM THRILLED TO SEE THIS APPLICATION. WE ARE OUT OF STEP WITH OUR PEER COUNTRIES AS IT COMES TO OVER-THE-COUNTER BOOZE CONTROL. WE HAVEXCELLENT DATA TO SHOW IT IS SAFE -- BIRTH CONTROL. WE HAVE EXCELLENT DATA TO SHOW IT IS SAFE. WE ARE EXCITED THE FDA MAY ALLOW OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROL IN THE UNITED STATES. AMNA: WHY HAS IT TAKEN THE U.S. SO LONG? >> IT IS HARD TO SPECULATE WHY THIS WOULD BE. THE FDA PROCESS IS A COMPLEX ONE AND A RIGOROUS ONE, WHICH SHOULD REASSURE VIEWERS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE THAT IF WE GET OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROL WE WILL KNOW IT IS SAFE AND REASONABLE TO BE OVER-THE-COUNTER. THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT RISK FACTORS AND COMPLICATIONS AS THEY RESULT FROM BIRTH CONTROL. WE KNOW FROM DATA THAT BIRTH

CONTROL IS SAFE AND IF THE FDA APPROVES IT IT WILL BE AN EXCELLENT WAY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS BIRTH CONTROL WITHOUT BARRIERS. AMNA: IF THIS IS APPROVED AND IT IMPROVES ACCESS FOR WOMEN, WHAT KIND OF A DIFFERENCE CAN THIS MAKE IN THE LIVES OF WOMEN? >> WE KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE WHO NEED BIRTH CONTROL, THEY USE IT OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR LIFETIME. WE KNOW THAT OVER 90% OF AMERICANS USE BIRTH CONTROL AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES. THAT SPANS RELIGIONS, RACE. ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE NEED BIRTH CONTROL. BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THAT, PARTICULARLY IN A VERY UNCERTAIN TIME RIGHT NOW, IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE MOST MARGINALIZED IN OUR COUNTRY, THOSE WHO ARE UNDERINSURED OR UNINSURED, WHO HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING INTO A DOCTOR TO GET A PRESCRIPTION. BEING ABLE TO BE AN EXPERT IN YOUR OWN LIVES, TO GO TO A DRUGSTORE OR PHARMACY AND TO SAY I AM READY TO START BIRTH CONTROL WILL BE AN EXCELLENT WAY

FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THIS ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE. AMNA: THAT WOULD MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONSULT WITH A DOCTOR, HAVE CONVERSATIONS YOU SOMETIMES HAVE BEFORE BEGINNING A MEDICATION, AND THERE WOULD NOT BE AN AGE LIMIT. DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT? >> DEFINITELY NO CONCERNS ABOUT AGE LIMIT. WE KNOW YOUNG ADULTS ARE ABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT MEDICATION, PARTICULARLY CONTRACEPTION. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, THIS DOES NOT REPLACE GOING TO A DOCTOR. IT REPLACES THE BARRIER OF GOING TO A DOCTOR IF YOU NEED BIRTH CONTROL. IN THE SAME WAY YOU GO TO THE PHARMACY TO GET IBUPROFEN OR TYLENOL OR COLD MEDICINE, PEOPLE WILL NOW BE ABLE TO DO THIS TO PREVENT PREGNANCY . IF THEY WANT TO CONSULT WITH A DOCTOR, IF THEY WANT TO CALL THEIR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL, WE ARE ALWAYS HERE TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT. BUT WE WILL NOT BE STANDING IN THE WAY OF THEIR MEDICATION. AMNA: MANY BIRTH PILLS CONTAIN ESTROGEN, BUT THIS ONE DOES NOT. IT IS PROGESTIN ONLY. DOES THAT RAISE CONCERNS FOR YOU? DOES THAT CHANGE THE EFFICACY? >> PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BIRTH CONTROL, SOME THAT ARE COMBINED

HORMONAL, INCLUDING ESTROGEN OR ANTI-PROGESTIN, OR PROGESTIN ONLY MEDICATIONS, SO A SINGULAR HOME ON. BOAT -- A SINGULAR HORMONE. BOTH ARE VERY EFFICACIOUS. HIGHLY EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING PREGNANCY. WITH PERFECT USE, THEY ARE AROUND 99%. WE KNOW THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE BETTER FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF MEDICATIONS BASED ON SIDE EFFECTS OR RISK FACTORS, AND MOST PEOPLE CAN TAKE A PROGESTIN ONLY PILL VERY SAFELY. WE A EXCITED TO SEE THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PROGESTIN ONLY PILL COME OVER-THE-COUNTER, AND WE ARE EXCITED TO SEE PEOPLE BE ABLE TO USE IT IN THEIR LIVES. AMNA: YOU MENTIONED THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES. I ASSUME YOU MEAN THE OVERTURNING OF THE ROE V. WADE DECISION. THAT HAS LED LAWMAKERS TO CONSIDER FEDERAL PROTECTION FOR CONTRACEPTIVE ACCESS. I WONDER ABOUT YOUR TAKE ON THAT. DO YOU THINK THAT IS NECESSARY RIGHT NOW? >> I THINK WE ARE SEEING UNPRECEDENTED ATTACKS ON THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO ACCESS ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE, INCLUDING

ABORTION, AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME MENTION EVEN IN SUPREME COURT DOCUMENTS OF POTENTIALLY IMPACTING THE RIGHT TO ACCESS CONTRACEPTION. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOING ANYTHING IT POSSIBLY CAN TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF AMERICANS TO ACCESS ESSENTIAL HEALTH CARE IS SOMETHING WE SUPPORT. AMNA: DO YOU SEE THIS METHOD, OVER-THE-COUNTER BIRTH CONTROLS, BECOMING THE NORM HERE IN AMERICA ONE DAY? >> I CERTAINLY HOPE SO. I HOPE THE FDA WILL APPROVE THE APPLICATION, WHICH WILL OPEN UP OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE. IT WILL NOT REPLACE A DOCTOR'S VISIT. PEOPLE WILL STILL BE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME IN AND TALK ABOUT BIRTH CONTROL, POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS, RISKS, WHETHER BIRTH CONTROL WORKS FOR THEM. BUT THOSE PEOPLE WHO KNOW IT WORKS FOR THEM AND THEY WANT TO START IT AND IMMEDIATELY BEGAN PREVENTING PREGNANCY OR TREATING OTHER CONDITIONS THEY MIGHT HAVE WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO WITHOUT NEEDING A PRESCRIPTION AND HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT BARRIER. AMNA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU.

JUDY: THIS HAS BEEN A WEEK PUNCTUATED BY THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE CONCLUDING ITS FIRST SET OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND BY PRESIDENT BIDEN ANNOUNCING EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ON CLIMATE CHANGE AFTER CONGRESSIONAL NEGOTIATIONS FELL APART. THAT BRINGS US TO THE ANALYSIS OF BROOKS AND CAPEHART. THAT'S NEW YORK TIMES COLUMNIST DAVID BROOKS AND JONATHAN CAPEHART, ASSOCIATE EDITOR FOR THE WASHINGTON POST. HELLO TO BOTH OF YOU. WE ALWAYS COME TO YOU WHEN THINGS A FALLING APART. [LAUGHTER] BUT LET'S START WITH JANUARY 6. THE HEARINGS HAVE NOW BEEN EIGHT OF THEM. THEY ARE TAKING A PAUSE UNTIL THE FALL. WHAT DOES IT ADD UP TO YOU, FOR YOU SO FAR? DAVID: AS I CONFESSED A FEW WEEKS IN A ROW, THE COMMITTEE HAS OUTPERFORMED WHAT I EXPECTED AND DONALD TRUMP UNDERPERFORMED

WHAT I EXPECTED. I THOUGHT HE WAS DOING HIS CON ARTIST TALKING TO THE CROWD, BUT WE NOW KNOW THERE WAS MORE BEHIND-THE-SCENES AND THERE REALLY WAS A LOT MORE PLANNING TO STORM THE CAPITAL. DONALD TRUMP WAS A LOT MORE INVOLVED IN ENCOURAGING, INCITING, AND TRYING TO CLEAR THE WAY FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO STORM THE CAPITOL. THIS WEEK IN THE FINAL FOR NOW SESSION, WE LEARNED THAT HE DID NOTHING, AND THE CLEAR IMPLICATION FROM THE WHOLE STRING OF EVIDENCE, HE DID NOTHING BECAUSE HE LIKED WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THAT LEAVES YOU CLOSE TO A DOJ OR SOME SORT OF INDICTMENT. JUDY: DO YOU AGREE? IS THAT WHERE WE ARE HEADED? JONATHAN: I HOPE SO. HOW CAN YOU SIT THERE LAST NIGHT AND WATCH THE RETELLING OF THE 187 MINUTES AND NOT THINK, HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES DID NOT ACT TO SAVE MEMBERS O CONGRESS, TO SAVE A COEQUAL BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT?

WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME IS WE WATCHED EIGHT DRAMATIC HEARINGS FOR AN EVENT THAT WAS JUST LAST YEAR. WE ALL WATCHED IT IN REAL TIME. YET IN HEARING AFTER HEARING AFTER HEARING, NEW PIECES OF INFORMATION FILLED IN BLANKS, USUALLY THAT HORRIFIED US. TO SEE LAST NIGHT, THE SINKING OF THE RADIO TRAFFIC BETWEEN VICE PRESIDENT PENCE'S SECRET SERVICE SECURITY DETAIL AND THE OTHER OFFICERS IN THE SENATE, WITH THE VIDEO THAT WE HAD ALL SEEN, BUT FOR ME WHAT WAS SHOCKING WAS JUST HOW CLOSE VICE PRESIDENT PENCE CAME TO MEETING WITH THAT CROWD. WE KNEW THEY WERE CLOSE. I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE THAT CLOSE. JUDY: THAT RADIO TRAFFIC AMONG HIS PROTECTIVE DETAIL WHERE THEY WERE SAYING, SAY GOODBYE TO MY FAMILY. YOU HAD TO STOP AND TAKE A BREATH.

JONATHAN: THESE ARE PEOPLE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO PROTECT LIFE AND TAKE A BULLET FOR THE PRINCIPL E IF THEY ARE AFRAID -- FOR THE PRINCIPAL. JUDY: I ASKED FORMER SENATOR DOUG JONES AND FORMER CONGRESSWOMAN BARBARA COMSTOCK, IF WE MEASURE SUCCESS OF THIS COMMITTEE BY WHAT HAPPENS TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HOW DO YOU DEFINE WHAT CONSTITUTES SUCCESS? DAVID: I THINK AS SENATOR JONES SAID, THEY ALREADY SUCCEEDED. IT IS THE MOST CREDIBLE SEEMING CONGRESSIONAL HEARING IN DECADES FOR ME. I THINK THEY HAVE DONE A CREDIBLE JOB OF NOT OVERPLAYING THEIR HANDS, AND THEY HAVE RISEN TO THE OCCASION. BY THAT MEASURE, THEY HAVE DONE A SUCCESSFUL JOB. WILL THEY SUCCEED IF THEY THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GET DONALD TRUMP? THEN I AM FAR LESS CLEAR. THERE WAS A POLL.

LIZ CHENEY IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION. THE POLL SHOWED HER 22 POINTS BEHIND A TRUMP SUPPORTED BACKER. 60% SAID THEY ARE LESS LIKELY TO VOTE FOR HER BECAUSE SHE IS PARTICIPATING IN THESE HEARINGS. THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF THE POLL WAS WHY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL TRUMP LOYALISTS. IT IS BECAUSE THEIR WORLDS ARE FALLING APART AND THEY THINK THIS IS A DISTRACTION. INFLATION IS CAUSING A DRAMATIC AND MASSIVE REDUCTION IN PEOPLE'S LIFESTYLES AND LIVING STANDARDS. IT IS NOT BECAUSE THEY LOVE DONALD TRUMP NECESSARILY. BUT THEY ARE SAYING, MY LIFE IS FALLING APART. WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR ME? THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT. IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE A HEARING IN A STATE OF NORMALCY. BUT WHEN THE COUNTRY IS IN A STATE OF ECONOMIC CRISIS, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY, WHAT ABOUT ME? JUDY: AND IT IS THE CASE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE RIVETED BY THESE HEARINGS AND OTHERS ARE JUST NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL. JONATHAN: RIGHT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THESE HEARINGS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT CONGRESS SHOULD NOT INVESTIGATE. I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT INFLATION AND NOW LOWERING GAS PRICES AND OTHER THINGS THAT AFFECT THEM PERSONALLY. BUT THE HEALTH OF OUR DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE. CONGRESS MUST BE ABLE TO DO -- HAS TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THESE THINGS AT THE SAME TIME. THESE HEARINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT KNOCKING DONALD TRUMP OFF HIS PEDESTAL OR ANY SORT OF SHORT-TERM GAIN. I ALWAYS VIEWED THESE HEARINGS AS LAYING DOWN A MARKER FOR HISTORY, BECAUSE 20 YEARS FROM NOW WE ARE GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE FOR WHOM THEY NEVER SAW WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 OR THEY BARELY REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED. WE NEED AN ACCOUNTING OF WHAT HAPPENED ON THAT DAY SO THAT PEOPLE NEVER FORGET HOW CLOSE WE CAMEO LOSING EVERYTHING, AND ALSO WHY THIS DANGER ISN'T OVER, AS THE FORMER OATH KEEPERS GUY SAID IN TESTIMONY, THAT THIS IS

NOT OVER. JUDY: WE COULD STILL SEE, AS WE KNOW, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP RUNNING FOR REELECTION -- RUNNING FOR ELECTION AGAIN. DAVID: I TRIED TO DETERMINE WHAT THE PUBLIC REACTION WOULD BE. ON THE ONE HAND, THEY COULD BE LIKE, WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY AND LET THE POLITICS BE DAMMED. ON THE OTHER HAND, FAITH IN INSTITUTIONS IS SO LOW AND SOMEBODY PEOPLE THINK IT IS ALL RAKED. -- IS ALL RIGGED. NEARLY HALF OF YOUNG PEOPLE BELIEVE YOUR VOTE HAS NO EFFECT ON HOW WE ARE GOVERNED. THAT IS A HIGH LEVEL OF CYNICISM. I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POLITICAL EFFECT OF THAT WOULD BE. JONATHAN: PART OF IT IS, SOME OF THE CYNICISM IS THEY SAW WHAT DONALD TRUMP DID FOR FOUR YEARS AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO HIM. THAT IS ONE THING YOU HEAR. HOW COULD HE DO ALL THESE THINGS AND HE IS NOT IN JAIL? THAT ALSO PLAYS INTO IT.

JUDY: NOT ONLY THAT, BUT RUNNING AGN. ONE STORY THAT WAS IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY THIS WEEK WAS THE HEAT. THE UNITED STATES IS BAKING, MUCH OF EUROPE. THE REST OF THE WORLD. AND YET WE SEE HERE IN WASHINGTON PRESIDENT BIDEN'S CLIMATE AGENDA FELL APART. THERE JUST ARE NOT THE VOTES. JOE MANCHIN OF WEST VIRGINIA WAS A BIG PART OF THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IF HE HAD STAYED ON BOARD. BUT WHAT IS REALISTIC NOW WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE? TO WE JUST SAY, IT IS HOT, AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT? DAVID: JOE MANCHIN IS THE SENATOR FROM WEST VIRGINIA. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? YOU WILL NOT GET A MORE PRO-CLIMATE CHANGE SENATOR FROM WEST VIRGINIA. IF YOU TAKE THE LONG ARC OF THIS THING, EARLY DAYS, CLINTON AND MOST ECONOMISTS THINK THE WAY TO ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGES MAKE CARBON MORE EXPENSIVE, SO CARBON TAXES.

THAT IS A POLITICAL NONSTARTER. NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS WHAT BIDEN TRIED TO DO, IS MAKE RENEWABLES LESS EXPENSIVE. THAT WAS BACK BETTER. IT WAS A VERY PLAUSIBLE AGENDA, WHICH IS STILL SITTING OUT THERE SOMEDAY FOR A FUTURE SENATE. BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO DO THINGS WE CAN DO IN OUR POLITICAL CLIMATE? WE COULD REALLY REINVEST IN THE SMALLER, EMISSION FREE, MUCH SAFER NUCLEAR PLANTS THAT ARE STILL THERE SO WE RELY MORE ON NUCLEAR. WE COULD CONVERT COAL PLANTS WHICH ARE SUPER POLLUTING TO NATURAL GAS POWER PLANTS WHICH ARE MUCH LESS POLLUTING. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO PLANT A TRILLION TREES. NOBODY IS AGAINST TREES. YOU CAN THINK OF THINGS THAT DON'T IMMEDIATELY AROUSE PARTISAN FURY. AND I STILL THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO OUT THERE THAT WOULDN'T GET US BACK INTO THE LEFT-RIGHT THING.

REPUBLICANS ARE ALWAYS PUTTING A FOOT FORWARD. JUDY: THERE ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE. YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE SCREAMING THE URGENCY OF THIS, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING YESTERDAY. JONATHAN: AND IF YOU LISTEN TO SOME OF THE SCIENTISTS, WE MIGHT EVEN BE TOO LATE NOW. BUT TOAVID'S POINT, I TAKE YOUR POINT, THERE ARE ALL THESE THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS CLIMATE EVEN IF THINGS MIGHT BE TOO LATE. THE OTHER THING I WORRY ABOUT IS, SURE, IF YOU DON'T CALL IT CLIMATE YOU CAN MAYBE GET REPUBLICANS ON BOARD, BUT WE HAVE BECOME SO PARTISAN, WASHINGTON HAS BECOME SO PARTISAN THAT IF IT IS PROPOSED BY A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, THE REPUBLICANS WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE AGAINST IT. EVEN IF IT IS COMMON SENSE, EVEN IF IT WILL SAVE THE PLANET, EVEN IF IT WILL IMPROVE LIVES, THEY WON'T GO FOR IT. AND UNTIL WE'VE GOT PRESIDENT BIDEN IN THE WHITE HOUSE, A DEMOCRAT, UNTIL HE CAN GET TWO OR THREE MORE SEATS IN THE

SENATE, DEMOCRATS MAINTAIN THE MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE, MAYBE WE COULD SEE SOME MOVEMENT ON A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS FROM CLIMATE TO CODIFYING ROE TO PROTECTING SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS. CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM. BUT THAT IS LIKE WISHING ON A PONY. I DON'T KNOW. [LAUGHTER] JUDY: BUT THE URGENCY. DAVID, YOU HEARD ONE SIDE, THAT THERE IS AN EXTREME URGENCY TO GET SOMETHING DONE. ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE ARE THE ARGUMENTS, LET'S DO WHAT WE CAN GET DONE POLITICALLY. DAVID: I AM 100% -- ONE OF MY HEROINES IN LIFE WAS THE SECRETARY OF LABOR. SHE WAS ALWAYS FOR HALF A LOAF, AND I SALUTE THAT. YOU CAN SCREAM AND PRETEND YOU'RE GOING TO GET READY OF -- GET RID OF FOSSIL FUELS, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. DEAL WITH THE CONSTRAINTS YOU HAVE. WHEN YOU PASS THE BALL, TAKE THE

YARD GAIN. NOBODY IS AGAINST TREES. I THINK REPUBLICANS CAN BE FOR TREES. AND NUCLEAR POWER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I HAVE LOW TOLERANCE FOR THE, LET'S GO TO ZERO FOSSIL FEELS NEAR-TERM. THE TECHNOLOGY JUST ISN'T THERE TO DO THAT REPLACEMENT. PEOPLE LEANING ON JOE BIDEN TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY AND BAN EXPORTS ON AMERICAN OIL AND GAS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE IT LOWER, THAT IS CRAZY TO ME, TO DISRUPT THE ENTIRE OIL SUPPLY CHAIN AT THIS MOMENT IN THE IRAQ WAR, TO CUT OFF OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES. I UNDERSTAND THE IMPULSE BEHIND THEM. JUDY: UKRAINE MORE? DAVID: UKRAINE WAR. WHAT DID I SAY? JONATHAN: IRAQ. [LAUGHTER] JUDY: IT IS OK. WE EACH GET ONE OR MORE. JUST QUICKLY COME PRESIDENT ON PRESIDENT BIDEN -- JUST QUICKLY, PRESSURE ON PRESIDENT BIDEN CONTINUES.

JONATHAN: THE PRESSURE IS ON THE PRESIDENT. THE PRESSURE WILL REMAIN ON THE PRESIDENT. BUT THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IS SUCH THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET DONE WH THE ACTIVISTS WANT. HE'S JUST NOT. JUDY: OK. [LAUGHTER] WE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT IT, AT LEAST FOR NOW. AND WE WILL LEAVE IT THERE. JONATHAN CAPEHART, DAVID BROOKS, THANK YOU BOTH. JUDY: AS CLIMATE CHANGE AND RISING SEA LEVELS PUT HISTORIC LIGHTHOUSES IN IMMINENT DANGER, PHOTOGRAPHER DAVID ZAPATKA HAS A SENSE OF URGENCY TO CAPTURE AS MANY AS POSSIBLE. HE'S PUBLISHED A BOOK, "USA STARS & LIGHTS: PORTRAITS FROM THE DARK," TO SHOWCASE WHAT'S AT RISK. MICHELLE SAN MIGUEL OF RHODE ISLAND PBS WEEKLY PROFILES ZAPATKA. IT'S PART OF OUR ARTS AND CULTURE SERIES, CANVAS. >> IF YOU THINK OF A LIGHTHOUSE, IT DOES ITS WORK AT NIGHT

PRIMARILY. TO NOT HAVE THAT RECORDED IN HISTORY IS A SHAME. MICHELLE: DAVID ZAPATKA HAS BEEN RECORDING HISTORY FOR MORE THAN THREE DECADES. HE'S AN AWARD WINNING VIDEOGRAPHER, BUT HIS BIGGEST PROJECT YET HAS HIM PICKING UP HIS STILL CAMERA. >> AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THIS WAS A PROJECT TILL I WAS 15 OR 20 LIGHTHOUSES IN. AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS DOING MORE RESEARCH ON MORE LIGHTHOUSES REALIZING, WOW, THERE'S NO PICTURES OF THIS LIGHTHOUSE. MICHELLE: HE'S PHOTOGRAPHED MORE THAN 175 LIGHTHOUSES IN THE UNITED STATES, INCLUDING MANY ON THE EASTERN SEABOARD. >> OH, WE GOT STARS. THAT'S A GOOD THING. MICHELLE: HIS GOAL, TO CAPTURE EVERY WORKING LIGHTHOUSE AROUND THE COUNTRY AT NIGHT. >> WHAT THE DIGITAL CAMERA HAS ALLOWED US TO DO WAS TO OPEN UP TO PHOTOGRAPHERS THIS WHOLE NEW FIELD OF SHOOTING WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN.

SO THESE ARE THE SLICK ONES. NOT TOO BAD BECAUSE THE TIDE IS ON THE WAY IN. SO THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DRY. MICHELLE: WHAT YOU CAN'T SEE IN ZAPATKA'S PHOTOS ARE THE GREAT LENGTHS HE GOES TO IN ORDER TO CAPTURE THESE IMAGES. IT'S NOT A STRETCH TO SAY YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR LIFE AT RISK ON SOME OF THESE SHOOTS. >> EARLY ON, I REALIZED THAT IT'S DANGEROUS AT NIGHT. ALMOST THERE. LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT. THEN WE GET THE REFLECTION. THAT'S ALWAYS THE BONUS. MICHELLE: ZAPATKA OFTEN WADES KNEE DEEP INTO WATER TO TAKE A PHOTO. ON THE NIGHT WE WENT WITH HIM, IT WAS THIS ONE, THE NEDS POINT LIGHTHOUSE IN MASSACHUSETTS. OTHER LIGHTHOUSES ARE ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY BOAT. TO GET AN IMAGE LIKE THIS, ZAPATKA PUT HIS 20 FOOT TRIPOD IN THE WATER. >> SO I CAN LAUNCH IT OFF A BOAT, STICK IT DOWN IN THE WATER AND GET A SHOT OF THE LIGHTHOUSE

FROM THE WATER THAT YOU COULDN'T NORMLY GET BECAUSE YOUR CAMERA HAS TO BE COMPLETELY STEADY FOR 20 SECONDS DURING A NEW MOON PHASE. MICHELLE: ARRIVING AT NIGHT TO THESE LIGHTHOUSES IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART. ZAPATKA AND HIS FRIEND, SEAN, FOUND THAT OUT ON A TRIP TO THATCHER ISLAND TO CAPTURE TWIN LIGHTHOUSES. >> WE'RE LIKE RIGHT BY THE LIGHTHOUSES. THEY'RE LIKE RIGHT THERE. THERE THEY ARE. LET'S KEEP GOING. LET'S SHOOT IT. SO WE TIE THE BOAT OFF AT A MOORING AND NOW WE'RE FACING TO THE WIND AND NOW WAVES ARE COMING OVER THE BOW OF MY 15 FOOT BOSTON WHEELER. AND IT'S ALL HELL'S BREAKING LOOSE. THE WATER'S COMING OVER, IT'S FILLING THE BACK OF THE BOAT. WE'RE GETTING HIT BY WIND. I'M AT THE BOW OF THE BOAT, GETTING SLAMMED. AND I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, SEAN, WE GOT TO GO. AND HE WAS LIKE, DAVE, YOU KNOW I'M WITH YOU, MAN. MICHELLE: NEVER ONE TO GIVE UP, HE CAME BACK ANOTHER NIGHT AND CAPTURED THE TWINS IN ALL THEIR GLORY. >> THAT'S SLICK. [LAUGHTER] JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE

DONE. THE THRILL IS I'M CREATING THIS HISTORY RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES. MICHELLE: ZAPATKA TIMES HIS PHOTO SHOOTS AROUND THE LUNAR CALENDAR. MOONR CLOSE TO IT.T YOU NEED. LOW TIDE, SELECT TIDE, WHICH MEANS THE TIDE HAS STOPPED, IN NO CLOUDS. SO WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S TAKING ME EIGHT YEARS TO DO ONLY 175 LIGHTHOUSES, ROUGHLY? MICHELLE: YOUR EYES ARE NOT DECEIVING. STILL, DON'T EXPECT THIS STARRY SKY TO LOOK QUITE LIKE THIS IN PERSON. >> THE CAMERA SEES MORE THAN OUR EYES CAN SEE. SO WHEN YOU'RE STANDING HERE LOOKING AT BEAVER TAIL LIGHTHOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, THE MILKY WAY IS THERE AND YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT WITH YOUR EYES, BUT THE CAMERA CAN SEE IT BETTER THAN YOU CAN BECAUSE IT'S SEEING IN THIS LONG EXPOSURE. MICHELLE: ZAPATKA HAS DRIVEN UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST IN THIS RV PHOTOGRAPHING LIGHTHOUSES, BUT HE SAYS THE EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE WITH RISING TIDES PRESENT REAL AND PRESENT DANGER.

THE WORK YOU'RE DOING IS REALLY A RACE AGAINST TIME. >> TOTALLY. ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. THE LEVELS OF THE GREAT LAKES LAST YEAR WERE HIGHER THAN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN. THEY'RE DOWN AGAIN THIS YEAR, BUT IF IT GETS HIGHER AGAIN, THERE ARE SEVERAL LIGHTHOUSE THAT ARE THREATENED BECAUSE THE FOUNDATIONS WILL JUST START CRUMBLING AND POTENTIAY THOSE LIGHTHOUSES COULD JUST FALL INTO THE LAKE. MICHELLE: IT'S WITH THAT SENSE OF URGENCY THAT ZAPATKA APPROACHES HIS WORK. >> TO ME, IT HAS CALLED OUT AND SAID THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE. I GUESS I'M THE PERSON TO DO IT. MICHELLE: FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, I'M MICHELLE SAN MIGUEL IN JAMESTOWN, RHODE ISLAND. JUDY: AND TONIGHT ON THE -- TOMORROW ON PBS NEWS WEEKEND, A CONVERSATION WH

TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG TO DISCUSS THE ONGOING AIR TRAVEL WOES, SUPPLY CHAI PROBLEMS, AND THE FUTURE OF OUR ROADS, BRIDGES, AND RAILS AFTER PRESIDENT BIDEN SIGNED THE $550 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE BILL INTO LAW. HERE'S A PREVW OF GEOFF BENNETT'S INTERVIEW. >> IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE DONE, ESPECIALLY ON INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS A HUGE ACHIEVEMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IS WELL UNDERSTOOD, EVEN IF THAT MEANS BEING MAYBE A LITTLE SHAMELESS. >> IS THAT THE ANSWER, TO BE A LITTLE SHAMELESS? >> I THINK WE SHOULDN'T HESITATE TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY AND HOW THESE IMPROVEMENTS CAME TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. I WAS BACK IN MY HOMETOWN OF SOUTH BEND AND FOUND MYSELF ON A TRAIL THAT HAD BEEN BUILT THAT I HAD ALWAYS WANTED TO DO BACK WHEN I WAS MAYOR BUT DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDING. THANKS TO FUNDING FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, WHETHER IT IS SMALL COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THAT OR THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO WERE LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY. THAT RESCUE PLAN ALONE WAS A HUGE DEAL.

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