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ms bee this is john g fuller and i like to read you my book incident at exeter unidentified flying objects over america now published in july by gp putnam's sons riverside radio are invited to this into from my book a weekly series of programs presenting authors reading from and commenting on their own recently published work our guest on this program is john fuller author of the money changers and gentlemen conspirators he's perhaps best known for the column trade winds in the saturday review now here again is mr fuller i begin the book in the preface which explains the reason for my getting into this subject in this book it was in and it was in mid september of nineteen sixty five i learned of the incident at exeter report which was interesting because it was on the official records of the police department and verified by two offices of the department whose character reliability and composure and crisis have been certified firmly by their superior
officers for the incident was observed by at least five people at a distance an overtime period that allowed for clear unmistakable observation exeter lies in a surpassingly beautiful slice of southern new hampshire where the atlantic tall pine forests and pre revolutionary homes and joined to create the background for a mystery mr is fantastic and sleep and sweeping as a legend of sleepy hollow next were the most vivid trappings of science fiction a dozen miles northeast east is portsmouth home of the naval base since eighteen hundred and now host of the pease air force base autumn here is brilliant and hurts the eyes you approach the town from the east colonnade of burnt our engine russert michael's past the old harrison house on water street a historical relic of the eighteenth century and continue on to the center of town here where front and water street marches are stone bandstand with the townspeople still gather on a summer evening for a brassy cancer
not far up the hill and from strangers phillips exeter academy spawning ground for ivy league hopefuls a dozen parking meters down from the stone bandstand the exeter police department occupies a dwarf size suite of rooms and a hulking brick monstrosity bearing the architectural scars of the industrial revolution as a friendly informally about the playstation perhaps because its eyes created an embassy all its own for the most part that that camels the usual routine any new england town of sixty five hundred residents might face high school pranks occasional drunk the tavern brawl a family fight an unmarked warehouse of power here and there and a continuous global of automobile accidents the townspeople are you a sturdy yankee yeoman stop very racial groups who settled in exeter during the industrial revolution or the academic cluster at phillips academy it was nearly a month before it clear my schedule after i learned of the case and i ride to new hampshire on wednesday october twentieth nineteen sixty five
for an appointment with the officers involved but from a new jean bertrand and david huntley exeter police force it was the beginning of a sort which had continued was which was to continue for many weeks sometimes on the basis of an eighteen or twenty hour a day the point of the surge was to find the most logical possible explanation for a dramatic an unusual circumstance involving an unidentified flying object or us all as the air force likes to call and if it not been for the transistor tape recorder i carry i would have serious misgivings about completing the project the reports that i recorded seems so improbable so other otherworldly the written notes alone might not have been enough to convince both the editors of organizing and the publishers of this book that over sixty people testified to what they saw with intensity and conviction but anyone listening to the many hours of taped interviews cannot doubt the sincerity honesty of the people involved nor was our opportunity or desire for collision for many of those who testified were widely separated from each other several experience
low level encounters with ufos a related with one self conscious conviction that would've been almost impossible to find their stories they severed genuine shock while the interviews in cold type cannot convey all this conviction is important to remember that it is their underlining the fact that these conservative new england people are staging what they believe to be the whole truth all the dialogue in the book recounting these experiences is taken verbatim from the tapes this book was no sooner completely ufo reports began to break out in unprecedented numbers all over the country after my research in exeter i was convinced that this will happen surprise that it had not happened center for the first time the general press began treating the subject with respect i knew that actually there was only a microcosm a reflection of the story that was taking place or bounder take place in increasing frequency all over the world since one reporter cannot have to track down an effect of story i decided to use exeter because we're well documented case they're involving the police it could have been any
number of other places with sommer reports when the now famous michigan cases broken march nineteen sixty six house republican leader gerald ford formal request and congressional investigation and a wire services for his front page story stories from the nationwide press but when an air force investigation indicated that some of the signings might be attributed to methane or marsh gaspar swamp gas the press again backtrack and seized on this is a blanket explanation of the ufo phenomenon this distortion was deplored by dr j allen hynek head of the astronomy in northwestern university who himself had advanced the march yesterday in a letter to me on march twenty ninth nineteen sixty six he wrote quote i am in closing the actual press release i gave out of detroit because i wanted to have the full story of the release was not handled in the papers released which of course it really is your note my insistent insistence that the swamp sightings and they're highly
likely explanation does not constitute a blanket explanation for the ufo phenomenon i'm afraid that point was missed two in his official release so badly distorted by the press dr hynek states the air force's asked me to make a statement in my findings to date this i am happy to do provide it is clearly understood that my state will refer to two principal evans is reported tonight it does not cover hundreds of unexplained report i have not investigated those i have recommended in my capacity as scientific consultant to the air force that confident scientists quietly study such cases when evidence from responsible people appeared to want such study and maybe much of potential value the signs in such events we know very great deal more about the physical world in nineteen sixty six and we didn't at age sixty six but by the same token the people you're twenty sixty six may regard this as a very incomplete in our scientific knowledge that deceived and other pressures and
sensibly raising their raison d'etre for my getting into this very strange and furry year amazing subject the book begins a chapter one with a description of what happened a case that i began to investigate and to my amazement when i got up to the election until twenty four am on september third nineteen sixty five norman must grow three weeks away from joining the navy plunged into the exeter police station in a state of near shock he was white and shaking the chrome reginald poland on duty of the best help them light a cigarette before it calmed down enough to talk the story came out in bars you've been hitchhiking everyone fifty from injury massachusetts to his home in action at a distance of twelve miles traveled which bars and he was forced to walk away like to that morning he reached kensington a few miles short of its home near an open field between two houses the thing to call it came out of the sky directly toward tim was as big or bigger than a
house but appear to be at the many feet in diameter and brilliant pulsating red lights around an apparent when it wobbled beyond and flowed toward make no noise whatever when it seemed as if we were going to hit and you go down the shower shoulder of the road than the other to piggyback off slowly and hover directly over the roof or on the houses finally back far enough from us grow to make a run for the house ugandan the door screaming no one answered at that moment a car came by moving in the direction of exeter he ran a little row of the road waves aren't friendly middle aged couple drove in exeter and drop him off the police station the kid can't had calmed down a little town although we kept lighting one cigarette after the other work that must grow and i don't believe me i don't when you gonna send somebody back out there with my kid persisted others are tall and puzzled at first was impressed by his sincerity he kicked on the police radio in calling cruz a number twenty one within five minutes the crawl when
eugene britain pulled into the station burton an air force veteran during the korean war with air to air refueling experiences and casey ninety seven tiger is reported an odd coincidence an hour so before cruising know the overpass on who won a one about two miles out of exeter you come across a car parked on a bike pass with a low moment at the wheel trying to get composers you've said that a huge silent airborne outfit a trailer from the town of prepping only a few feet from her car and bring him flashing red lights when she reached the overpass it's suddenly taken off a tremendous speed and discipline among the stars i thought she was a group of roman britain told tolan so anyone bothered radio in poland turned the kenmore enters the summit with a new song sounds exactly like it's a mosque it was nearly three am when patrol number can still trying to calm us grow down arrived back at the field or one fifty nine was clear moments and more visibility was unlimited there was no wind mr arthur bryant parked his cruiser near toronto paul number six sixty eight he picked up
the radio might be called poland they saw nothing at all but that the author was still so tense he was going to walk out in the field with them to investigate further of el a cruiser for a few minutes the scenarios so if you don't get an answer don't worry about it but for motorola walked down a sloping field and our barge and probing the trees in the distance with his flashlight about a hundred yards away from a roadside was a corolla the horses of the coral dining former kept when they reach the science and still saw nothing but and tried to reassure the kid exclaim must be out of the helicopter moscow refused to be placating insistent years from there we'll all types of conventional aircraft then as burton turned as part of the carolla show is light toward the tree or into the north the horses that the dying form began to kick in when he batted aside the bourne fans nearby houses be and how he must grow you let it all i say at the city's crime are generally overlooked or the trees beyond the call it right there was rising slowly from
behind too tall pines a brilliant round the subject without sound came toward them like a leaf fluttering from the tree wobbling in yawing as it moved the entire area was based in a brilliant red light the whitesides of girl by banks pre revolutionary salt box house turned blood red russell about a hundred yards away same color bridge and retrieves thirty eight been for better and show that back in his holster must throw frozen its tracks workin afraid of infrared rays or radiation grab the youngster yank them back toward the crews are back at the exit of police stations crestfallen was nearly blasted out of his chair by britain's radio call i see the dancing myself sober and to have protection of the cruiser roof bertrand moscow wants the un to cover with about a hundred above them a metaphor for feels distance away rocking back and forth on its axis absolutely silent the pulsating red lights seemed to them from left to right and from right to left in a five four three two one one two three four five pattern covering about two seconds for each cycle it was hard to make out of that definite
shape because of the brilliance of the light like trying to describe the college has headlights coming at years away burton puts it it hovered their hundred feet above the future settlement still no noise like several horses and dogs then slowly began to move away eastward toward hampton this movement was erratic defining defying all conventional aerodynamic patterns it darted said britain at the turn of a dime slowdown at that moment the drone david hardin concrete cruiser number twenty poll about the poll you heard the radio conversation between britain and poland at the desk at world out of the same order and jumped out to join her at the edge of the field i can see them fluttering movement says it was going from left to right between the tops of two big tree polls only light source is good you know but georgia really howling and i started moving slow like across the poplar trees just above the trees it was rocking and that there's a creepy take a look at least a bit after moved out of sight
toward happened toward the ocean we waited awhile of the forty seven came over you tell a different there is no comparison within moments after the objects lead over the trees in our sight of britain must grow scratch told to recall the best reaction or night operator she was always so middle schoolers you trace the cold when i'm outside well i'm outside of abortion happened and he was so historically it are carly talk straight the toll flying saucer came right at him before i before it it's an issue that cut off i got a phone call that had been police and they notified the pease air force base the blotter eleven police department covers a story partly september third nineteen sixty five three am after police department report unidentified flying object in that area units to foreign pease air force base boarded a three seventeen am received a call from exeter operator and other tolan advisor the mail subject called asked for police department further stating that the corps was enraged large and i've gotten a firefly magic the court cut off call receive from hampton
payphone location unknown this is john g fuller and i'm waiting for my book ends in and at exeter unidentified flying objects over america now published in july by putnam after the initial incident really explore the police it soon found that it wasn't just one incident there was a continuous series of incentives which are still continuing while i was up there and are still continuing into the summer of nineteen sixty six it was time as recorded aa i cross examined over sixty people and tape recorder testimony i was amazed at the consistency of the competence and the reliability of the people who gave me this respected citizens technicians people who could differentiate between b forty sevens m b fifty twos we're halfway through the research about two or three weeks and a little research i was so amazed by what i'd found that i
decided to go back in your employ some it take for the owners of look magazine and for them the book publisher of the publisher of the book ends in a lecture on the way down i had my tape recorder in the car with me and i decided to take the moment to time and the memo write like this i opened it by saying i can understand why some kind of major news breaks should not be forthcoming on the subject of ufo's in the light of the material i've been gathering i say this after several days of intensive research in exeter in which i interviewed nearly sixty people and tape recorded hours of testimony the people who were given this testimony of unchecked out as far as character reliability or concern for the most part i would say that their judgment capability for range from average to better than average with testimony adds up to this there's overwhelming evidence that ufos are flying saucers do exist they seem to exist in an accountable numbers and move an incredible speeds in an aerodynamically impossible patterns they're
reported checked and verified almost continuously they hover for a considerable time often that less than three top level every they are reported to have landed at low altitude they sometimes assume a dome like shape women in her red or white glow a pattern of red poll city lights as frequently observed in some cases in other words a rib another and others are red whirling pattern is reported around the edge they're usually absolutely silent though in some cases the high frequency hum heard a move almost directly overhead of cars and people at times causing flight impact of these four women living in widely separate areas are afraid to go out alone at night and they refused to do so elise for people report stream large objects exceed eighty feet diameter or more rising slowly up from behind trees low altitude movement has been reported to consist of a yawning trade like motion wobbling in the air and moving slowly back and forth sometimes with a fluttering pattern like to leave at times is reporting to throw a brilliant red glow which pranks aside the white house is a brilliant red
beacon light up a wide area on the ground around at high altitudes and some cases seemed to assume the shape of a small desk in a relationship who attend head start and to a tennis ball you will follow reliable but off the record information from the pease air force base in portland's indicates frequent radar books and fighters are constantly scrambling to pursue these objects if this information is not officially comes from a reliable source the ids are often reported in the reef vicinity of high power transmission lines some of these locations and crowded with cars at night with a group citing sometimes reported no one has ever been harmed physically buying these objects of a psychological trauma has been evident the area covered by the research so far extends from hampton new hampshire on the coast some twenty miles west of derry new hampshire near manchester in most interviewers i was able to determine a reasonable capacity of that respond to to differentiate between a helicopter a balloon jet prop plane planets or stars some studies have been described in daylight when i got back to new york city
and played the tape for the lookout his eyes and the center's senior editor backup with me because i was frankly beginning to doubt my own sanity to the testimony it seemed indisputable in the extreme amount of difficulty and in trying to justify what i was hearing with the amazing testimony was being revealed later i began to find that these sightings seem to concentrate were the high powered tension transmission lines cross the roads is a big wrong metal towers that sweep across the countryside and have a large paths of farms cleared for them you see many long road they don't fall or zika crossroads cross country i began to be interested in this and this was before the power blackout but they're on page one ninety five and in the book i describe
a brief visit to a power company to try to find something about this on the morning edition november first is i followed the half a dozen lead by phone that they're interested in mainly because they indicated the high frequency of sightings in the area at noon i stopped by the power plant and drink water road in exeter and spoke to a couple of the engineers for the excellent hampton electric company they heard many stories about unidentified flying object the object that they had not been aware that so many people read reporting over or near the high power transmission lines they were intrigued by the idea though unplanned investigated and said that the high voltage power lines to create an electromagnetic field and that if i didn't have any kind of affinity for electromagnetic fields a powerful been obvious attraction they're the no unusual voltage losses reported on the meters but then it will be possible for ninety two hander an electromagnetic field without affecting of old age the questions asked when the power lines could create the image of a ufo or brought up but since the phenomena i had been frequently appeared far from the lines and since most descriptions indicated that the
unidentified flying objects were structured craft the serious highly unlikely most descriptions also work on for st elmo's fire sung bars or ball like no other known phenomenon and made a mental note to check more thoroughly with the electric power companies later at the moment i planned began what i wanted to find a time to do since i started the research make a random check most random check followed i found like to walk into a gas station or a country store and drugstore steps on main street corner and get an amazing number of quite credible accounts of people having seen unidentified flying objects in the area of the reports coming from the vicinity of power lines are continuing through the research which has a six week from four sixty five the night of the night before the power blackout i cover was money no memories
and i cover that in the book in this way monday november eighth was spent mainly with carrie ann zimmerman senior editor of look and jim curley staff attire for the magazine as we made the rounds of several key witnesses to review their stories and photographs them for a picture star your company look like oh this is on which the book is based i was relieved to have other spot checking interviews and reviewing their savings with them as it was interesting to note that the descriptions remained basically the same as when they were given them a few weeks previously at one home of feminine image albert the entire family reporting continued sightings and both joseph job or who has a wrinkled and sixteen a high school senior and his mother returned and most interesting observation which it happened since that first interviewed them joseph and recently noticed a ready cigar shaped object in the sky over the high over the power lines and hover there motionless for several minutes exactly how many didn't know because he was so absorbed watching after considerable length of time a reddish orange desk emerged apparently from
inside the article began a slow already be sent down toward the power lines has reached a point in the courtroom i owe them at a level above them moved over the wires until i reached the point several hundred feet away and then the senate slowly until only a few feet above the lines that's over a pipeline project came down from the base of this can actually touch the lines remain there for a minute or so the bridge cruz and then slowly retract into the body of the object and it took off considerable speed exactly how fast years of cannot estimate than the reagan and rejoin the ready cigar shaped object and disappeared inside of it the next night the power blackout struck the northeast it was was the outlook senator and photographer and we went through the two hundred and three pages of transcripts of tape recordings that i had and the words power lines or transmission lines appeared alarming number of pages of the intimate imitation a margin of the transcripts were a reference like this was made generally support the current route to call it the information or seventy three mentions in various locations by various
people these include either the actual use of the word power lines are references to locations near where the power lines run there then follows in the book a chapter which indicates the circumstantial evidence althea relationship with a power blackout to the m a minute firefly now the phenomenon not just in the action area but in the new york city area and emily are state area and other parts of the northeast but at the conclusion of the book i get into a brief summary of the what the results of the research were the actual area and then in it i've summarized mainly the possibilities and the feelings that i have about
what should be done within them for full amount of the phenomenon the summary was like this and thinking back over the research the highlights a standup when most points detail in this book are almost irrefutable one dozens of intelligent reliable people reported ufo sightings many reluctantly because of the fear of ridiculous to most of these reports were widely separated and people concerned were not involved in collusion three most of the signs are similar and description in spite of my minor variations which can be expected and should be expected from varied viewpoints for police and military were reporting the same type of phenomenon as the ordinary layman five the constant relationship of ufo's to the high tension power lines of the north east grid was an escape risk of about six a concert report to the effect of your phone animals point at the possibility that human error was unlikely in these cases seven the reports of electromagnetic affection lights ignition radio's intelligence indicated a similar conclusion eight for gress
checked by experts with four character investigations of the photographer and further evidence of psychic aberrations massive losses on a story are mistaken and it could be ruled out nine the verified cases of genuine shock and hysteria indicated further that the low level near landing reports were valid ten radar reporters scrambling jets jason yeah just indicated that the air force was not only cognizant of the objects objects but appeared to be and didn't do anything about them next federal aviation agency regulations minimize the possibility of the craft were developmental weapons in the united states in such craft would not be permitted to operate at such low altitude and populated areas causing shock and history of the population next secret foreign press would be unlikely because such actions in the violation of our airspace would have long since been about an international incident just as a single case of you to over russia had done the most logical but still on global explanation is that the other than a firefly and
audition interplanetary spacecraft entered an intelligent control a national investigation committee on aerial phenomena and others have been supporting this hypothesis for years its credibility how are and suffered by the support of a crackpot fringe in spite of this a hypothesis remains stronger than any other theory advanced the biggest remaining questions you can attitude of the government and some sign that the authorities who have shown no indication of setting up a full scale project you needed to prove or disprove the existence of ufos or if they have the ostensible paternalistic protection of the public is not consistent with democratic principles the reaction of those who have experience close encounters with ufos in exeter and one of shock followed by intense curiosity rather than sustained panic and unprepared public is far more likely to panic been formed one truth is unlikely to remain hidden forever in the light of recent developments the situation in greece a point where it appears to be the duty and the responsibility of the government even to reveal what it knows or to order a scientific investigation on a major scale and report the findings
immediately to the public at large you've been listening to john fuller reading from his book incident at exeter published in july by gp putnam's sons is to further is the author of the weekly trade winds column in the second interview we invite you to join us each weekend this time for from my book presenting prominent authors reading from their own recently published work from my book is produced by david you are they are the fm station of the riverside church in new york city fb fb
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From My Book
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3
Episode
John F. Fuller: Incident At Exeter
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WRVR (Radio station: New York, N.Y.)
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The Riverside Church (New York, New York)
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Episode Description
John G. Fuller reads from his book The Exeter Incident. He begins with the preface to setup the reasons why he began to investigate the Exeter Incident.
Series Description
Weekly series From My Book presenting authors reading and commenting on their own recently published work.
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Recorded at WRVR
Broadcast Date
1966-08-04
Created Date
1966-06-08
Asset type
Episode
Topics
Education
Literature
Local Communities
Crafts
Subjects
Unidentified flying object literature; Unidentified flying objects--Sightings and encounters
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Sound
Duration
00:31:49.344
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Guest: Fuller, John G. (John Grant), 1913-1990
Producing Organization: WRVR (Radio station: New York, N.Y.)
Publisher: WRVR (Radio station : New York, N.Y.)
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