PBS NewsHour; February 1, 2018 6:00pm-7:01pm PST

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>> Woodruff: GOOD EVENING, I'M NIDY WOODRUFF. ON THE NEWSHOUR TOT, THE F.B.I. UNDER FIRE-- THE POTENTIAL RELEASE OF A ECNTROVERSIAL MEMO PITS POLITICS AGAINST NATIONAL SURITY. THEN, AS THE WAR IN SYRIA PUTS TURKISH FORCES AT ODDS WITH THE WAS., I SIT DOWN WITH TURKEY'S AMBASSADOR TINGTON TO DISCUSS A STRAINED ALLIANCE. AND, FINANCING THE FIGHT AGAINST CANCER-- HOW ATTRACTING INVESTORS TO THE WORLD OF DISEASE TREATMENT COULD JUMPSTART FORTS IN FINDING A CURE.

>> WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TREAT DISEASE IN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EXPLORE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS. SHOULDN'T WE?

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>> Woodruff: THE RELEASE OF A HOTLY DEBATED MEMO ON THE F.B.I.'S RUSSIA INVESTIGATION APPEARS IMMINENT TONIGHT. THAT PROSPECT HAD REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS TRADING S AND COUNTER-CHARGES THROUGHOUT THLI DAY. DESJARDINS BEGINS OUR COVERAGE

>> Desjardins: ACONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS GATHER AT A WEST VIRGINIA RETREAT MNT TO TACKLE BIG GOALS-- A CONTROVERSIAL FOUR-PAGE MEMO IS NEWS, SPEAKER PAUL RYAN FOUND AT A NEWS CONFERENCE. NEARLY EVERY QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE SO-CALLED NUNES MEMO, DRAFTED BY REPUBLICAN STAFFERS FOR HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE AIR DEVIN NUNES. IT ALLEGES F.B.I. ABUSES OF ITS SURVEILLANCE POWERS, BUT ITS CONTENTS ARE CLASSIFIED AND HAVEN'T BEEN MADE PUBLIC. THE COMMITTEE HAS VOTED TO ME IT PUBLIC AND THE WHITE HOUSE, WHICH MUST WEIGH IN, INDICATING IT WILL LIKELY TELL CONGRESS TOMORROW THAT IT AGREES WITH RELEASE. PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE NO MENTION OF THE MEMO, DURING HIS ADDRESS AT THE G.O.P. RETREAT TODAY. BUT DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL, WITH THE RANKING DEMOCRAT ON HOUSE INTELLIGENCE, ADAM SCHIFF, CHARGING THAT REPUBLICANS CHANGED THE MEMO HOFORE SENDING IT THE WHITE E TO APPROVE. TODAY IN PHILADELPHIA, BLUNTRD FROM SCHIFF, THAT

>> Desjardins: SCHIFF SAID MAKING THE MEMO PUBLIC COULD LIUNDERMINE THE BUREAU'S A TO DO ITS JOB.

>> SO WHEN THE F.B.I. FANS OUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THEY'RE INVESTIGATING A TERRORISM CASE ARE AMERANS GOING TO THINK WHAT'S YOUR AGENDA? THERE WAS SO MUCH HYPERBOLE OUT THERE THAT IT'S LOING TO CAUSE A AT AMERICANS TO QUESTION THE VERYRIOTIC PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TO PROTECT THE COUNTRY EVERY DAY.

>> Desjardins: BUT SPEAKER PAUL RYAN INSISTED INSIST THE ONLY CHANGES WERE FOR NATIONA SECURITY REASONS, AND IN CONSULTATION WITH THE F.B.I. HE INSISTED THE MEMO ALLEGES DANGEROUS USE OF POWER BY SOME AT THE AGENCY.

>> IF AMERICANS CIVIL LIBERTIES WERE ABUSED, THAT NEEDS TO COME TO LIGHT. WHAT THIS IS NOT IS AN INDICTMENT OF OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.

>> Desjardins: WHILE McCONNELL EHE DOESN'T THINK A MEMO BY THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC.

>> I READ BOTH THE MEMOS AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE THIS FOR ANY KIND OF PARTISAN ADVANTAGE EITHER SIDE. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND NOT D ANYTHING FOR A PARTISAN ADVANTAGE THAT COULD RISK A SENSITIVE SOURCE OR METHOD.

>> SPUCIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER'S INVESTIGATI INTO THE INTERFERENCE INTO THE ELECTION BROUGHT ANOTHER HEADLINE. THE "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTED A WITNESS IN THE INVESTIGATION LL RAISING NEWGATIONS ABOUT WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR A LONG-TIME TRUMP AID HOPE HICKS. THE WITNESS WILL REPORTEDLY TALK ABOUT E-MAILS SHOWING DONALD THE WITNESS REPORTEDLY WILL SAY HICKS ONCE SAID THAT EMAILRU SHOWING DONA JUNIOR'S INTEREST IN RUSSIAN FORMATION ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON "WILL NEVER GET OUT." AN ATTORNEY FOR HICKS DENIED SHE EVER SAID THAT. STD HERE IN WEST VIRGINIA, WE AVE MORE NEWS FROM THE REPUBLICAN RETREAT. IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES, SENAOR JEFF FLAKE OF ARIZONA SAYS HE RESO DOESN'T THINK THIS BLICAN MEMO SHOULD BE RELEASED AT THIS TIME. JUDY.

>> Woodruff: THAT GETS TO THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK, YOU DID SHOW ONE OTHERUB RLICAN CONGRESSMAN CHARLIE DENT SAYING HE HAS AROBLEM WITH WHAT THE MAJORITY IS DOING. IS FLAKE T OTHER ONE? ER IN ADDITION TO FLAKE, JUDY, ARE ACTUALLY MANY REPUBLICANS WHO ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THIS BUT ON THE RECO NOT SO MANY. SENATOR JOHN THUNEOFCHAIRMAN THE SENATE REPUBLICAN CONFERENCE, HE TOLD US TODAY THAT, IN FACT, HE DOES NOT THINK THIS MEMO SHOULD BE RELEASED UNTIL SENATORS ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE THERE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOOK IT AND VERIFY THE INTELLIGENCE THEMSELVES. SO WHAT YOU HAVE THERE IS NOT JUST A DIVIDE BETWEEN ANY PUBLICAN BUT A DIVIDE BETWEEN LEADERSHIP AND THE REPUBLICANS IN CHARGE OF OVERSIGHT OF INTELLIGENCE. SENATE SAYS WE WANT TO SEE THIS BEFORE YOU EITHER RELEASE IT. THE HOUSE SAYS NO.

>> Woodruff: CAN YOU GET A SENSE THERE OF WHAT IS DRIVING THIS, WHAT PART OF THEPU ICAN PARTY IS DETERMINED TO DO THIS?

>> THIS HAS BEEN A GROUNDSWELL FROM THE MT CERVATIVE PARTS TO HAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND IN FACT T FREEDOM CAUCUS HAS BEEN RUNNING THE RALLYING CRY. ONE TWEET FROM JU WOODRUFF DUNCAN SOUTH CAROLINA REPRESENTATIVE WHO ASKED TRUMP ON THE FLOOR TO HAVE THE STATE OF THE UNION TO RELEASE THIS MEMO, HEROTEHIS MEMO WILL SHAKE THE ORGANIZATION THE F.B.I. DOWN TO ITS CORE SHOWING AMERICANS JUST HOW THE AGENCYS APONIZED BY THE OBAMA OFFICIALS,D.N.C., H.R.C. -- MEANING HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON -- TO A GROUP OF LARGER ADVERSARIES. THIS LEADS PEOPLE TOVE BELIE THE F.B.I. HAS BEEN TURNED AGAINST REPUBLICAN PARTY. THIS IS A BIG CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT RIGHT NOW.

>> Woodruff: TAKE US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENSIFEXT. HE PRESIDENT DECLARES TOMORROW THAT THIS MEMO IS ALL RIGHT FOREPUBLIEASE, HE THEN ESSENTIALLY TURNS IT BACK OVER TO SPEAKER RYAN, WT HAPPENS THEN?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THE PRESI WILL DRAFT A LETTER LIKELY FROM THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL TO THE HOUSE AND WILL LIKEY GO DIRECTLY TOS CHAIRMAN NU AND SPEAKER RYAN AS WELL, OUTLINING CONCERNS THE PRESIDENT HAS, IF C HE HAS NCERNS ABOUT THE MEMO AND SAYS YOU CAN RELEASE IT, AT THAT POIRNHAGHTSRMAN NUNES HAS THE UNILATERAL ABILITY TO RELEASE IT AT ANYTIME. SPEAKING TO MEWAERS HERE WHO THE MEMO RELEASED, THEY'RE NN THE SURE HOW THAT WOULD HAPPEN, WHETHER ON EMAIL OR WEB SITE. WOULD IT NEED REDACTION? I'M LD NO, THAT THIS MEMO DOES NOT HAVE ANY MATERIAL IN IT THAT NEEDS TO BE REDACTED AND THE FULL THING COULD BE RELEASED VERY QUICKLY, EVEN TOMORROW.

>> Woodruff: AND WHAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS, LISA. WE'RE HEARING STRONGER STATEMENTS FROM THEM,HAT ABOUT THEIR LEADERSHIP?

>> THAT'S RIGHT, WE HEARD FROM ADAM SCHIFF IN THE PIECE, BU SO THIS DEMOCRATIC LEADER IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE ARE CALLING FOR CHAIRMAN NUNESO RESIGN. THEY SAY WHAT HE IS DOING IS TANTAMOUNT TO CAUSING PROBL IS IN TELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND PUTTING THE NATION AND INTELLIGENCE AT RISK. SPEAKER RYAN TO THAT IDEA THAT CHAIRMAN NUNES SHOULD RESI SAID THAT IS JUST POLITICS AND HE'S REALLY NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO I SO CHAIRMAN NUNES SEEMS SAFE IN HIS POSITION DESPITE WHAT DEMOCRATS WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

>> Woodruff: QUICKLY, LISA, WE KNOW THIS IS A POLITICAL FIGHT, BUT WE'RE HEARING THERE ARE LARGER CONCERNS AT PLAY.

>> SENATOR LANGFORD ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SAID HE'S WORRIED BECAUSE RUSSIANS ARE CLEARLY MAKING HAY OF THIS ON THE INTERNET AND ELSEWHERE. NS SAYS WHEN AMERICAN INSTITUTIGHT, RUSSIANS TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND THAT IS A LARGECER CORN HERE.

>> Woodruff: LISA DESJARDINS REPORTING FROM THE REPUB CONGRESSIONAL RETREAT AT THE GREENBRIAR IN WEST VIRGINIA. THANK YOU, LISA.

>> Woodruff: IN THE DAY'S OTHER NEWS, 28 RUSSIAN ATHLETES WHO BANNED FROM THE WINTER OLYMPICS FOR DOPING, HAVE NOW BEEN CLEARED BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF ARBITRATION FOR SPORT. THE PANEL RULED THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE.ED IT ALSO REINSTEVEN GOLD MEDALS WON BY RUSSIANS AT THE 2014 SOCHI OLYMPICS. PRESIDENT VLADIMIR PUTIN HAILED THE DECISION AS HE TOURED A VEHI.E FACTORY IN ROSTOVONDON

>> ( translated HINK WE HAVE TO AVOID EUPHORIA ON OUR SIDE. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT CALMLY. T ARE HAPPY FOR THE ATHLETES SUPPORTED T EVERYONE WAS FULLY CLEARED OF CHARGES. WE HAVE THINGS TO IMPROVE ON OUR SIDE FOR SURE.

>> Woodruff: RUSSIA IS STILL BANNED FROM THE UPCOMING WINTER GAMES IN SOUTH KOREA FOR STATE- SPONSORED DOPING. BUT, THE 28 ATHLETES COULD COMPETE, IF THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE AGREES. THE UNITED STATES CHARGED TODAY THAT SYRIA IS STILL MAKING AND USING CHEMICAL WEAPO. UNNAMED TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS MADE THE ACCUSATION IN VARIOUS NEWS ACCOUNTS. ATEY SAID IT IS, "HIGHLY LIKELY" YRIA'S PRESIDENT BASHAR AL WSAD KEPT A HIDDEN STOCKPILE OF CHEMICPONS AFTER AGREEING TO GIVE THEM UP, IN 2013. THE STREAM OF SYRIANS AND OTHERS NSEEKING POLITICAL ASYLUM EUROPE DROPPED LAST YEAR, FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW. THE EUROPEAN UNION'S ASYLUM AGENCY SAYS NEARLY 707,000 PEOPLE IN ALL APPLIED FOR THE SPECIAL STATUS, DOWN 43%. SYRIANS MADE UP THE LARGEST 98NGLE GROUP OF APPLICANTS, WITH MORE THA00. IN MYANMAR, NEW EVIDENCE TODAY THAT THE MILITARY AND BUDDHIST SUPPORTERS MASSACRED ROHINGYA MUSLIMS. THE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTS IT CONFIRMED AT LEAST FIVE MASS GRES. TIME-STAMPED CELLPHONE VIDEO SHOWS THE REMAINS OF ONE VILLAGE BURNED TO THE GROUND. HUMAN BONEWERE FOUND IN POOLS OF ACID, USED TO PREVENT IDENTIFICATION. IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOA TODAY, A TOP U.N. OFFICIAL SAID THERE MUST BE A RECKONING.

>> YES, I WOULD THINK THAT THESE ARE PART OF THE HALLMARKS OF GENOCIDE. I THINK MYANMAR NEEDS TO GET RID OF THIS BAGGAGE OF 'DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT?' AND IF PROVEN THAT THEY DID, THEN THERE HAS TO BE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> Woodruff: MYANMAR DENIES ALL CLAIMS THAT ROHINGYA MUSLIMS GHVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY SLRED. KENYA'S HIGH COURT ORDERED TODAY THAT THREE TV STATIONS BE ALLOWED TO BROADCAST AGAIN, BUT THE GOVERNMENT IGNORED THE ORDER. THE STATIONS HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN MONCE THEY TRIED TO AIR TH INAUGURATION OF OPPOSITION LEADER RAILA ODINGA THIS WEEK. ODINGA'S SUPPORTERS SAY PRESIDENT UHURU KENYATTA RIGGED LAST YEAR'S ELECTION. BACK IN THIS COUNTRY, THE STATE , PARTMENT'S TOP CAREER DIPLOMM SHANNON, ANNOUNCED HE'S RETIRING AFTER 35 YEARS. HE CITED PERSONAL REASONS. HIS DEPARTURE COMES AS PRESIDENT TRUMP FACES CRITICISM FOR NOT FILLING A NUMBER OF TOP DIPLOMATIC POSTS. LLE ARIZONA STATE HOUSE TODAY EX A REPUBLICAN LAWMAKER OVER ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT. DON SHOOTER IS BELIEVED TO BE THE FIRST STATE LAWMAKER TO BE DISMISSED SINCE THE "ME-TOO" MOVEMENT BEGAN. OTHERS HAVE RESIGNED OR BEEN STRIPPED OF LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. AND ON WALL STREET, THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE GAINED 37 POINTS TO CLOSE AT 26,186. THE NASDAQ FELL 25 POINTS, AND THE S&P 500 LOST ALMOST TWO POINTS. STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: SHOULD THE WHITE HOUSE RELEASE A CONTROVERSIAL MEMO ABOUT THE ASSSIA INVESTIGATION? URKEY CLASHES WITH U.S. BACKED KURDS, I SPEAK TO THE ECRKISH AMBASSADOR. THOMICS OF FIGHTING CANCER, AND MUCH MORE.

>> Woodruff: AS WE REPORTED EARLIER, WHILE THE POLITICAL FIGHTING MATCH OVER THE RELEASE OF THE NUNES MEMO CONTINUES, THE WHITE HOUSE'S PLAN TO CLEAR ITS RELEASE, OVERRULING THE CONCERNS OF THE F.B., HIGHLIGHT HOW THE DOCUMENT HAS BECOME A SOURCE OF STRAIN FOR THOSE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE. WE GET TWO PERSPECTIVES ON THIS DEBATE, FIRST FROM MICHAEL MUKASEY, WHO SERVED AS U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL DURING THE GEORGE W. BUSH ADMINISATION, AND JEFFREY SMITH, WHO SERVED AS GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE C.I.HE DURINGLINTON ADMINISTRATION. AND WE WELCOME BOTH OF YOU TO THE "NewsHour". THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GENERAL MUKASEY, TO YOUT FIRS, WHY DO YOU FAVOR THE RELEASE OF THIS CONFIDENTIAL MEMO?

>> WELL, I THINK GIVEN ALL THE BLOOD AND INK THAT'S BEEN SELLED OVER IT SO FAR AND FACT THAT THE F.B.I., THOUGH THEY STARTED OUT BY SAYING THERE WERE NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS, IS NOW SAYING, WELL, THE MEMO IS DISTORTED BUT NOT THAT THERE ARE ALTIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS, GIVETHAT, LET IT GET OUT. OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE A COUNTERMEMO. LET THAT GET OUT, TOO. I CAN'T SEE THIS POINT TRYING TO COVER IT UP BECAUSE TOO MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY.

>> Woodruff: I SHOULD HIPULATE NEITHER OF YOUE SEEN THIS MEMO. IT'S BEEN HELD WITHIN THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. BUT JEFFREY SMITH, GIVEN WHAT GENERAL MUKASEY IS SAYING, WHY NOT LET THIS MEMO OUT?

>> WELL, IDEALLY WE WOULD STAR OVER AGAIN. WE CAN'T DO THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS DEALT WITH IN REGULAR ORDER, WHICH IS TO SAY, FOR MR. NUNES TO HAVE REFERRED TO THE MATTER TO THE INECTOR GENERAL OR TO THE COURT ITSELF. THE FACT THAT WE ARE WHERE WEAR IT PROBABLY SHOULD COME OUT. THEN, IN TURN, THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD PUT THEIR -- HAVE THEIR MEMO REVIEWED AND THAT PUT OUT, TT THAT REALLY WON'T END THE DEBATE BECAU LARGER QUESTION HERE IS ONE OF THE PROPER ROLE OF CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT, AND MY CONCERN IER THAT THE MANIN WHICH THIS THE BEEN DONE UNDERMINES EFFECTIVENESS OF OVERSIGHT AND, FRANKLY, DEMEANS THE WHOLE PROCESS.

>> Woodruff: WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE THE MANNER IN WHICH IT WAS DONE THA BOTHERS YOU?

>> THAT IT WAS SO OBVIOUSLY DONE FOR PARTISAN POLITICAL REASNS THE PROCEDURE THAT WAS FOLLOWED WAS PUT IN PLACE SO THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD RELEASE INFORMATION THAT WAS CLASSIFIED BY THE PRESIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T WANT RELEASED. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE WE SEEM TO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE THE PRESIDENT WANTS THIS OUT. BUT I REALLY WORRY ABOUT THE ATTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS ON THE PART OF THE PEOPLHE C.I.A., THE COURT AND F.B.I. WHO ARE LOOKING AT THIS THINKING WE'RE BEING TURNED INTO A POLITICAL FOOTBALL AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

>> Woodruff: IS THAT A CONCERN FOR YOU AT ALL, GENEAL MUKASEY?

>> IT IS A CONCERN THOUGH IT HIGHT TO BE POINTED OUT IN FAIRNESS THAT DIDN'T POP OUT OF A VACUUM. THAT INITIALLY THE INTELLIGEE AGENCIES AND PARTICULARLY THE F.B.I. SLOW WALKED AND STONEWALLED WHEN IT CAME TO PRODUCING INFORMATION THAT THE COMMITTEE WA ENTITLED TO IN EXERCISING ITS OVERSIGHT. THAT, IN TURN, LED TO THE BACK AND FORTH THAT'S RESULTED IN THE MEMO. THAT SAID, I THINK THAT IT'SUN UNFOE, AND I AGREE WITH JEFJEFF SMITH, THAT THIS IS NOTE WAYGOOD ORDER OVERSIGHT IS PPOSED TO PROCEED A CERTAINLY NOT WHAT WAS ENVISIONED BY THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THE SYCEM IN P WHEN I WAS ORIGINALLY PUT INTO PLACE BACK IN THE '70s.

>> Woodruff: HODO YOU KNOW, THOUGH, THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, THE F.B.I. DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR TAKING THEIR TIME IN TURNING THIS OVER?

>> I DON'T. I'VE HEARD FROM -- I MEAN, I'VE ARD FROM PEOE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DEMANDING THE MDOCUMENTS THAT WERE ULTATELY TURNED OVER THAT THERE WAS NO PARTICULAR REASON FOR DELAY OTHER THAN DELAY FOR ITS OWN SAKE.

>> Woodruff: WHAT ABOUT THAT POINT, JEFFREY SMITH, THAT THE AGENCY, THEY COULD HAVE WORKED BETTER AND MORE COOPERATIVELY WI THE CONGRES

>> IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT CCAUSE I DON'T KNOW PRECISELY WHAT DOCUMENTS THGRESS WANTED. IF THE CONGRESS WAS WANTING DETAILED APPLICATIONS TO THE F.I.S.A. COURT, I WOULD UNDERSTAND A RELUCTANCE TO TURN THAT OVER. ON THE OTHER HAND, I USED TO WORK IN THE SENATE, SO I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH COOPERATING WITH THE CORESS. THIS OVERSIGHT ONLY WORKS IF THERE IS TRUST BETWEEN THE TWO BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND HERE IT'S FAILED.

>> Woodruff: WELLSPEAKING OF THAT, GENERAL MUKASEY, HERE WE HAVE A PRESIDENT, IN ESSENINCE, NOW, UP AGAINST HIS OWN JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HIS OWN -- OR THE F.B.I. IS THERISE SOMETHINGURBING ABOUT THIS DYNAMIC THAT WE'RE WATCHING?

>> OF COURSETHERE'S SOMEHING DISTURBING ABOUT IT, AND WE DON'T -- THAT'S NOE SOMETHING WE WANT TO SEE, BUT IT HAS BEGUN, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY OUT UNTIL ONE OR THE OTHER IS PROVED RIGHT OR UNTIL THEY BOTH STOP.

>> Woodruff: WHY DOES IT BOTHER YOU?

>> IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE THE F.B.I. IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND IS THE PREMIER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE TELLIGENCE COMNITY. IT DIDN'T BECOME A MEMBER OF THE IGENCE COMMUNITY UNTIL AFTER 9/11, SO THAT'S RELATIVELY NEW FUNCTION FOR THEM. AND TO HAVE THIS GOING ON AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME IS NOT GOOD FOR THE SECURITY OF THE COUNT OR FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

>> Woodruff: BUT IT DOESN'T BOTHER YOU ENOUGH THAT YOU DON'T THINK THIS MEMO SHOULD BE WITHHELD?

>> WITHHOLDING THE MEMO ISN'T GOING TOVOLVE THE PROBLEM, IT'S GOING O EXACERBATE IT.

>> THE MEMO, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO NOW KNOW IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY LEAK.

>> Woodruff: EVEN IF IT WERET RELEASED.

>> I THINK SO. IT'S PRUDENT TO GET THEM OUT. THE F.I.S.A. COURT MISLED IS A SEOUS ISSUE EVEN IF THE COURT APINTS SPECIAL MASTER TO LOOK AT BE.

>> Woodruff: ANDRE I WAS READING YOU HAVE SAID THAT THERE IS CONCERN AEUT WHAT HAPPNED HERE.

>> YES.

>> Woodruff: BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS QUESTION THAT I POSED TO GENERAL MUKASEY, THE SPECTACLE ST THE SCENE OF THE PRESIDENT GOING UP AGAINERY PUBLICLY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE F.B.I.?

>> IT'S DEEPLY DISTURBING. THINK HOW WE WOULD LOOK AT ANOTHER COUNTRY IF WE SAW THAT GOING ON IN TTIR COUNRY. I THINK OUR ALLIES LOOK AT THIS WITH MORTIFICATION AN OUR ENEMIES LOOK AT IT WITH DELIGHT. ARE WE REALLY A RELIABLE PARTNER THESE DAYS IF SECRET INFORMATI IS GIVEN TO US BY OUR VERY CLOSEST ALLIES AND IT WINDS UP BECOMING POLITICIZED FOR Y MESTIC POLITICAL REASONS HERE? IT'S REALT GOOD.

>> Woodruff: D DO YOU WORRY ABOUT LODGE-TERM HARM?

>> I WORRY ABOUT LODGE-TERM HARM TO THE OVERSSSIGHT PROCE AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN THE MEMO AND WHAT LEAKS OUT, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANY OF THAT IS INFORTION AHAT WAS IMPARTED BY FOREIGN COUNTRIES, BUT CERLY I THINK JEFFERY IP CORRECT IT DOES NOT HANCE THEIR CONFIDENCE IN US TO SEE THIS KIND OF STRUGGLE GOING ON WHEN THEY HAVE TO COOPERATE ON THE GROUND BY DISCLOSING INFORMATION, HAVING INFORMATION DISCLOSED TO THEM.

>> Woodruff: QUICKLY, JEFFREY SMITH, DO YOU THINK THIS KIND OF THING CAN BE AVOIDED IN THE FUTURE OR E WE JUST EXPECTING TO SEE MORE?

>> I HOPE WE LEARN FROM THIS AND WE DON'T DO IT AGAIN. ONE HAS TO EXPECT -- I MEAN, DEE BASI HERE IS THAT BOTH HDES ARE GOING TO ACT RESPONSIBLY, ANDE TO HOPE THAT THE CONGRESS WILL ACT RESPONSIBLY IN THE FUTURE. I DO NOT THINK THEY HAVEN THIS INSTANCE.

>> Woodruff: JEFFREY SMITH,NE FORMER ATTGENERAL MICHAEL MUKASEY, GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU BOTH.

>> THANK YOU. A

>> WoodrufEW FRONT IN THE NEARLY-SEVEN YEAR SYRIAN WAR IS OPENING IN THE COUNTRY'S NORTHWEST. TURKISH TROOPS, AND ALLIED FIGHTERS, ARE WAGING AN AIR AND GROUND CAMPAIGN AINST U.S.- BACKED SYRIAN KURDISH FORCES IN AFRIN, AN AREA KURDS HAVE CONTROLLED FOR MUCH OF THE CONFLICT. TURKEY OFFICIALS SAY "OPERATION " IVE BRANCH" ISN'T AN "INVASIOBUT AN EFFORT TO PROTECT TURKEY'S BORDERS FROM THE U.S.-BACKED KURDISH MILITIA IN NORTHWEST SYRIA. THEY SAY SOME 20 VILLEGES HAVE KNENARED OF THOSE KURDISH FIGHTERSN AS THE Y.P.G.; THEY ARE LINKED TO KURDISH INPARATISTS INSIDE TURKEY. PRIME MINISTERI YILIDRIM.

>> ( translated IRSTLY THE AFRIN OPERATION IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE FOR, URKEY. SECOND IS TO END THE CRUELTY OF THE TERROR GROUPS MEER THE ARABS, KURDS AND TURK LIVING IN PEACE THERE.

>> Woodruff: IT COMES AFTER TURKEY'S PRESIDENT RECEP TAYYIP ERDOGAN LAST MONTH ACCUSED THE U.S. OF BUILDING AN "ARMY OF TERROR" ALONG ITS BORDER MADE UP OF THOSE KURDISH FIGHTERS. BUT THE U.S. INSISTS THAT THEY. KURDISP.G. ARE A VALUABLE PARTNER IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS IN SYRIA. THEY HELPED LIBERATE THE FORMER ISIS CAPITAL RAQQA. BUT IN SYRIA'S NORTHEAST, KURDISH-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, HERE IN YELLOW, BORDERS TURKEY. ERDON HAS ALSO VOWED TO PUSH THE AFRIN OPERATION EAST, TO MANBIJ. THAT'S WHERE U.S. SPECIAL FORCES ARE OPERATING WITH THE SYRIAN KURDS. IN RESPONSE, GENERAL JOSEPH VOTEL, COMMANDER OF U.S. FORCES IN THE MIDDLE EAST, TOLD CNN EARLIER THIS WEEK THAT PULLING U.S. TROOPS FROM MANBIJ WAS "NOT SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO." PENTAGON SPOKESWOMAN DANA WHITE TODAY:

>> TURKEY HAS, IS A NATO ALLY AND WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE EVERYTHING THE SAME, BUT THE COMMON THREAD IS ISIS AND ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY FROM E'AT FIGHT IS A DISTRACTION, SO THAT'S WHY ASKED THEM TO RESTRAIN THEMSELVES AND TO LIMIT THIS OFFENSIVE.

>> Woodruff: CAUGHT IN THE THMIDDLE: SEVERAL HUNDRED SAND KURDISH CIVILIANS IN THE AFRIN REGION. AT LEAST 240 SYRIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED, ACCORDG TO THE SYRIAN OBSERVATORY FOR HUMAN RIGHTS. ROUGHLY 90 ARE SAID TO BE Y.P.G. FIGHTERS. THE TURKS SAY AT LEAST FIVE OF THEIR SOLDIERS HAVE BEEN KILLED. NOW, FOR THE OFFICIAL TURKISH PERSPECTIVE ON THE FIGHT IN SYRIA, AND RELATIONS WITH THE U.S., I AM JOINED BY SERDAR KILIC, TURKEY'S AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES. MR. AMBASSADOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVI AND PROVIDING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENLIGHTEN YOUR VIEWS WITH REGARD TO THE ONGOING OPERATION IN NORTHWEST SYRIA. VE Woodruff: WHY IS YOUR MENT SO CONCERNED, SO WORRIED, SO AGAINST THESE Y.P. FIGHTERS WHO HAVE HELPED THE UNITED STATES DEFEAT I.S.I.S. IN SYRIA?

>> WELL, IF YOU CAN BREAR WITH ME A MOMENT, FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SET THE PERSPECTIVE IN THAT REGARD. YOU HAVE SUFFERED THE RESULTS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS. I KNOW HOW VIVID THE MEMORIES OF 9/11 IN THE HEATS AND MINDS OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I MEAN, WE DO NOT SUFFER AS MANY, ON A SINGLE ATTACK IN A DAY 3,000 OR SO. BUT WE HAVE LOST 4,000 TURKISH CITIZENS AS A RESULT OF ATTACKS CONDUCTED BY PP K. HOW COULD THEY SUSTAIN?BE USE OF LACK OF AUTHORITY AND SECURITY IN NORTHERNIRAQ AND S EY USE A SAFE THEY HAVEN TO CONDUCT ATTAD KILLED 4,000 INNOCENT TURKISH CITIZENSMEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN INCLUDING A NUMBER OF TURKISH OFFCERS.

>> Woodruff: BUT THAT IS INSIDE TURKEY. I'M ASKED ABOUT THE Y.P.G. WHO TSE ACROSS THE BORDER IN SIR YAMPLEELL, ACTUALLY, P.K.K. WAS IN IRAQI I TERRORI NORTHERN IRAQ AND THEY WERE USING THAT AREA TO STAGE TIR ATTACKS, CROSS THE BORDER AND CONDUCT THE ATTACKS IN TURKISH TERRITORY. THE SAME THING WAS HAPPENING IN NORTHERN SYRIA. IN 2012, T SYRIAN REGIME, WITHOUT PUTTING UP A FIGHT, LEFT THE AREA TO Y.P.G. AND CONTROLLED THE AREA OF THE AFRIN REGION. SINCE THEN THEY WERE AGAINST THE IDEOLOGY OF THE Y.P.G. FIGHTING ANTTSTARTEDCKS AGAINST TURKISH CIVILIANS. THEY HAVE CONDUCTED 700 ATTACKS. SCORES OF PEOPLE DIED. NOT ONLY THEY ALSO ATTACKED THE OPERATION IN THE UNIVERSITIES IN SYRIA ITSELF. SO THAT KIND OF EVENTUALITY WE HAVE FACED INAQ NORTHERN TO TAKE PLACE IN NORTHERN SYRIA AS IT WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO TAKE ACTION IN THAT REGARD.

>> Woodruff: I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYIN AT THE SAME TIME, THE U.S. ARE SAYING THESE ARE FIGHTERS WHO HYVE HELPED US DEFEAT I.S.I.S. YOU UNDERSTAND DEFEATING I.S.I.S. IS SUCH A PRIORITY FOR THE UNITED STATES?

>> WELL, JUDY, THAT'S A PROBLEM. DAESH OR I.S.I.S. IS THE SYMPTOM. THE UNITED STATES IS NOT DEALING WITH THE ILLNESS ITSELF, IT'SHT JUST FG WITH THE SYMPTOM. AS LONG AS WE USE APPROPRIATE MEASUR, TACTICS AND STRATEGIES, WE ARE GOING TO BE FACED WITH THIS THREAT IN THE FUTURE IN SYRIA. THE Y.P.G. IS A DIRECT OFFSHOOED OF P.K.K.

>> Woodruff: CONNECTED TO THE KURDISH E>>XTREMISTS? OT EXPECTED, THEY ARE UNDER THE DIRECT CONTROL OF P.K.K. THE COMMDS ARE COMING FROM THE BASES OF P.K.K. IN NORTHERN IRAQ. EVEN DURING THE SENATE HEARING IN APRIL 2016, YOU WILL RECALL SENATOR GRAHAM ASKD A DIRECT QUESTION TO THEN THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE ASHTON CARTER WHETHER NKEY KNEW IF THERE WAS A DIRECT E BETWEEN Y.P.G. AND Y.P.Y. AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT.

>> Woodruff: YOUR PRESIDENT HAS MADE THESE ARGUMENTS TO THE U.S.OVERNMENT. IT HAS CHOSEN TO DISAGREE AND SAY WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS FIGHT IN NORTHWEST SIR. I CAN'T WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU REMOVE THE Y.P.G., WE'RE GOING TOTHO EVERYG WE CAN. IS YOUR GOVERNMENT PREPARED TO PURSUE THIS FIGHT EVENHOUGH AMERICAN TROOPS MAY BE KILLED IN THE PROCESS?

>> IF WE ARE DGOING TO CCT A SUCCESSFUL FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM AND IF AT THE END OF TODAY WE WOULD LIKEO PREVAIL, THEN WE SHOULD USE CORRECT STRATEGIES. WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL IN TERMS OF COSING OURARTNERS ON THE GROUND. YOU CANNOT FIGHT SUCCESSFULLY A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION BY MAKING USE OF ANOTHER TERRORIST THORGANIZATION. IS THE MISTAKE THAT THE AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION IS DOING FOR THE TIME BEING IN SYRIA. Y.P.G. IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. SO, IN FACT, THEY SA SAY RAY RAS LIBERATED BY THE Y.P.G., THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION IN RAQQA HAVE BEEN SUBSTITUTED. LOOK AT THEESOURCES OF HUMANITARIAN ORGANIZATIONS, AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL, THEY'RE ENUMERATING ALL E EFFORTS OF ETHNIC CLEANSING AND SLAUGHTER OFHIDREN, RUNNING CONTRARY TO EACH OF THE PRINCIPALS THE UNITED STATES STANDSOR, YET THE UNITED STATES OPTS FOR WORKING WITH Y.P.G., Y.D. AND EVEN IN YOUR INTRO YOU HAVE STATED THEM AR A PART THE UNITED STATES.

>> Woodruff: WITH SUCH A GREEMENT HERE, HOW MUCH DAMAGE HAS BEEN DONE? HOW MUCH IS THE U.S.-TURKEY RELATIONSHIP WEAKENED BY THIS?

>> WELL, I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT THE U.S. PUBLIC OPINION IS AMONG THE BEST TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE TURKISH PUBLIC OPINION FEELS AFTER THEY LOST. THEY HAVE OVER 40,000 PEOPLE. IT HAS A TREMENDOUS EFFECT ON THE FEELINGS OF THE TURKISH PUBLIC OPINION. WE WANT TO FIGHT TERRORISM. WE HAVE BEEN PART OF THE COALITION SINCE THE INCEPTION BUT WOULD LIKE TO FIGHT APPROPRIAT WITH STRATEGIES. YOU HAVE AN ALLY THAT HAS THE SECOND LARGEST ARMY IN.A.T.O. THE UNITED STATES COULD HAVE OPTED FOR WORKING WITH TURKEY TO CONDUCT THE FIGHT AGAINST DAESH.

>> Woodruff: MANY AMERICANS ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE U.S. -- THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S POSITION IS AND ARE STILL ASKING IS TURKEY PREPARED TO SEE U.S. SOLDIERS OUDIE IN THIS FIGHT WHERE GOVERNMENT IS GOING AFTER --

>> WELL, JUDY, WE ARE LONG-RM ALLIES AND I AM CONFIDENT WE ARE NOT GOING TO COME TO THAT POINT, T IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT, I THINK THE UNITED STATES SHOULD TAKE CERTAIN ACTIONS, TERMINATE THE SUPPORT OF THE TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. THAT TERRORIST ORGANIZATION CAUSES AN EXISTHRENTIALAT FOR OUR SECURITY AND STABILITY. SO THEY SHOULD PUT AN END TO THEIR SUPPORT, THEY SHOULD CEASE PROVIDING THEM AMMITION. HAVE YOU ASKED HIM TO DO THIS?

>> OF COURSE, AND THEY SHOULD COLLECT EVIDENCE, AS OF YESTERDAY, ROCKETS HAVE BEEN SENT TO TURKEY, A HOSPITAL, A RESTAURANT, A HOUSE AND THEY HAVE KILLED AND WOUNDED SCOR OF PEOPLE, AND MOST OF THOSE ENT, WEREI'M CONF PROVIDED BY THE UNITED STATES. S W CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT THE WEAPAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO Y.P.G. PYD FIGHTING AS DAES ARE NOT GOING TO END UP BEING USED AGAINST TURKISH CIVILIANS AND SORCES? WE HAVE MADE T COMMENTS TIME AND AGAIN. THEY ARE CONFIDENT THERE'S NOON CONNECETWEEN THE Y.P.G. AND-- P.K.K

>> Woodruff: IT IS AN ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT SUBJECT FOR E UNITED STATES AND YOUR COUNTRY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WATCH IT VERY CLOSELY. AMBASSADOR. E ARE STRONG ALLIES. WE NEED EACH OTHER. AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL PREVAIL AT THE END OF TODAY.

>> Woodruff: AMBASSADOR KILIC, THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Woodruff: STAY WITH US, COMING UP ON THE NEWSHOUR: D.E #ME-TOO MOVEMENT COMES TO THE ART WO AND A SINGER INFLUENCED BY BOTH INDIAN MUSIC AND R&B. BUT FIRST, USING FINANCIAL FOENGINEERING TO FIND CURE DISEASE. OUR ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLM HAS THE STORY. IT'S PART OF HIS SERIES, MAKING SENSE WHICH AIRS THURSHOYS ON THE NE.

>> WITHIN THE SPACE OF ABOUT FOUR YEARS I LOST FIVE PEOE TO CANCER.

>> Reporter: NOT LONG AGO M.I.T. FINANCE GURU ANDY LO'S WORLD WAS LEVELED.

>> MY MOTHER DIED,VETLANA SUSSMAN, THE HEAD OF MY LAB, SHE DIED. VID STALEN, A COLLEAGUE IN ENGINEERING DIED. CHARLES HARRIS, THE DONOR OF MY CHAIR DIED MY CHILDHOOD FRIEND SUZETTE LOH DIED, ALL OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF CANCERS. FOUR YEARS. I FELT LIKE I WAS THE CAUSE OF CANCER. KNOWING ME WAS CARCINOGENIC.

>> Reporter: AT FIRST LO FELT HELPLESS. WHAT COULD A FINANCIALMIST DO TO HELP FIGHT THE DEADLY DISEASE? BUT THEN HE MET WITH RESEARCHERS DEVELOPING EXPERIMENTAL TREATMENTS FOR HIS MOTHER'S LUNG >>NCER. ASKED THE TWO OF THEM, "DOES YOUR SOURCE OF FINANCING HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ON YOUR SCIENTIFIC AGENDA?" AND THE CHIEF SCIENTIF OFFICER LOOKED AT HIS C.F.O. IRONICALLY AND TURNED BACK TO ME AND SAID, "INFLUENCE? OUR SOURCE OF FINANCING DRIVES OUR SCIENTIFIC AGENDA." AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU THAT AS AN ECONOMIST, I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR THINGS. BUT AS THE SON OF A PATIENT I WAS ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED BY THAT ANSWER.

>> Reporter: OUTRAGED, BUT MOTIVATED BECAUSE, LO THOUGHT...

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FINANCE CAN DO SOMETHI ABOUT.

>> Reporter: IN FACT, LO BELIEVES FINANCE CAN ACTUALLY HELP CURE CANCER. HIS IDEA IS TO SECURITIZE CANCER DRUGS. CREATE A MEGAFUND OF DRUG DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO SELL TO INVESTORS AS SURITIES.

>> WE SECURITIZED AUTO LOANS, CREDIT CARDS, STUDENT LOANS, MUSIC ROYALTIES AS WELL AS MORTGAGES. WHY NOT SECURITIZE CANCER DRUGS?

>> Reporter: WAIT A SECOND. >>Y NOT? ORLD FINANCIAL MARKETS ARE ELY DOWN TODAY FOLLOWING DRAMATIC DMENTS.

>> STOCKS FELL OFF A CLIFF. THE LARGEST SINGLE POINT DROP IN HISTORY.

>> SHARE PRICE CONTINUE TO TUMBLE IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE LEHMAN COLLAPSE.

>> Reporter: IT WAS SECURITIZATION THAT BROUGHT THE GLOBAL ECOMY TO THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE ALMOST A DECAGE AGO, MORTGAACKED SECURITIES FLOODING THE HOUSING MARKET WITH EASY MONEY, DRICES UP AND UP. IN THE MOVIE "THE BIG SHORT," A JENGA TOWER HELPED TO EXPLAIN.

>> AND THEN THAT HAPNS.

>> WHAT IS THAT?

>> THAT'S AMERICA'S HOUSING MARKET.

>> WHAT I SAW DURING THE FINANCIAL CRISIS MADE ME SICK. BECAUSE I SAW HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY BEING COMPLETELY DESTROYED BY BAD DECISIONS, BAD RISKS, BAD BUSINESS MODELS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CRISIS BECAUSE THOSE TECHNIQUES DIDN'T WORK, THE CRISIS OCCURRED BECAUSE THOSE TECHNIQUES, THEY WORKED WAY TOO WEL THESE ARE POWERFUL TOOLS. FINANCE IS THE ULTIMATE TOOL FOR CROWDSOURCING, AND BEING ABLE TO PULL TOGETHER LARGE AMOUNTS OF RESOURCES FOR FOCUSED PURPOSES.

>> Reporter: LO WANTS TO REPURPOSE SECURITIZATION FOR CANCER CURES INSTEAD OF LIAR LOANS. HIS IDEAL PORTFOLIOS WOULD BE FINANCED WITH BOTH EQUITY, FOR THE BIG RISK TAKERS LIKE HEDGE FUNDS, AND DEBT, FOR THE RISK AVERSE.

>> THEY WANT TO TAKE THEIR MONEY AND EARN MAYBE A SMALL RATE OF RETURN, BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GETHEIR MONEY BACK. SO THESE ARE THE BOND INVESTORS, INVESTORS THAT PUT THEIR MONEY IN MARKET FUS, TREASURY BILLS, CORPORATE BONDS. RAERE'S A WHOLE NEW SET OF INVESTORS THATTIONALLY HAVEN'T INVESTED IN BIOTECH THAT COULD DO SO NOW.

>> Reporter: SO BIGGER FUNDS, MORE CONSERVATIVE, DON'T WANT TO TAKE AS CH RISK, THEREFORE WILLING TO ACCEPT A LOWER RATE OF RETURN, AND YOU'RE SAYING TO THEM, "HEY, WAIT A SECOND. YOU CAN INVEST IN SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO INVEST IN AND WE CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU A RETURN THAT'S BETTER THAN WHAT YOU'RE GETTING."

>> IF IT'S A BIG ENOUGH PORTFOLIO AND IF IT'S STRUCTURED IN THE RIGHT WAY, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S THE KEY, THE KEY IS RZE BECAUSE A SINGLE CANCER DRUG IS VERY, VEKY. PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS, 5%. BUT IF YOU TAKE 150 OF AND PUT IT INTO A PORTFOLIO AT SOME SUFFICIENTLY LARGE SCALE, THE RISK ACTUAY GOES DOWN.

>> Reporter: THAT'S THE GREAT INSIGHT OF DON'T PUT ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKDI. RSIFICATION.

>> RIGHT. AND THE FIELD OF CANCER REQUIRES ON THE ORDER A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS PER PROJECT. SO IF YOU WANT 150 PROJECTS, orAT'S $30 BILLION.

>> Repter: THE BILLIONS WOULD BE USED TO FURTHER EXPLORE ALL KINDOF CUTTING-EDGE TREATMENTS, FROM IMMUNOTHERAPIES THAT USE YOUR OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM TO FIGHT CANCER, TO SMALL- LSLECULE DRUGS THAT MAY CAUSE CANCER CO DIE.

>> WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TREAT DISEASE IN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. F JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO EXPLORE ALLE DIFFERENT PATHWAYS. SHOULDN'T WE? SHOULDN'T WE RAISE THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? CLEARLY IT'LL BENEFIT EVERYBODY, AND EVERYBODY WILL MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY AT THE END OF THE DAY.

>> Reporter: NOW IF THIS SEEMS WAY TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THE FACT IS THAT LO HAS BEGUN PUTTING HIS THEORY INTO PRACTICE, AS A FOUNDING INVESTOR OF PALO ALTO-BASED BRIDGEBIO PHARMA, WHICH HAS A PORTFOLIO OF TREATMENTS FOR GENETIC DISEASES.

>> A RARE GENETIC DISORDER IS A MUTATION IN YOUR GENES. SO THE TYPICAL KIND OF THERAPY FOR ONE GENETIC DISORDER IS GONNA BE ALMOST, BY DEFINITION, STATISTICALLY UNCORRELATED WITH THE SUCCESS OR FAILU ANOTHER KIND OF RARE GENETIC DISORDER. Reporter: I SEE, SO RAR DISEASES HAVE BUILT INTO THEM, DIVERSICATION?

>> EXACTLY, RIGHT. YOU DON'T NEED 150 OF THEM TO GET DIVERSIFICATION. 10 OR 15 ARE ENOUGH.

>> WE'VE ADDEDMSHREE NEW PROGLL IN THE GENETIC DISEASE SPACE...

>> Reporter: LO'S FORMER STUDENT, NEIL KUR, IS C.E.O. O BRIDGEBIO.

>> WHAT WE'RE ABLE NOW IS V SAY, "YOU HAVE THIS MUTATION, AND YOU'Y LIKELY TO HAVE THIS DISEASE, AND THIS IS HOW SEVERE IT'S GOING TO BE." FOR DISEASES THAT ARE REALLY THAT EASY TO DESCRIBE, THOSE ARE ESSIER IN OUR MIND TO DRUG, THAN DISEIKE DIABETES OR HEART FAILURE, WHERE THERE COULD BE MANY DIFFERENT CAUSES FOR THE S SEASE.

>> Reporter: T LIKE WOODY GUTHRIE'S DISEASE, HUNTINGTON'S?

>> THAT'S RIGHT. HUNTINGTON DISEASE IS A CLASSIC GENETIC DISEASE. SICKLE CELL ANEMIA, TAY-SACHS DISEASE. THESE ARE THE TYPES OF DISEASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> Reporter: BRIDGEBIO HAS 17 UG DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN ITS DIVERSIFIED PORTFOLIO.

>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CONVINCE AINVESTOR THAT THIS SICKLE CELL OR THIS TAY-SACHS OR T IS HUNTINGTON APPROACH IS THE RIPROACH, SO YOU'VE GOT TO WHAT ONE HAS TO DO TO ATTRACT ALTHE VAST MAJORITY OF CAPN THE WORLD TO THE EARLY STAGE SPACE LIKE THIS IS TO SAY, G OOK, IT'S TRUE, WE'RE GO TAKE MOSTLY LOSSES, BUT THENS COUPLE OF WI ARE GOING TO PAY US OUT FOR THOSE LOSSES. IN THE MOVIE INDUSTRY, FOR INSTANCE, ONE WOULD NOT FINANCE SE OR TWO MOVIES HOPING THAT PECIFIC MOVIE IS GOING TO BE A BLOCKBUSTER, BUT RATHER YOU'RE GOI TO FINANCE A MULTITUDE OF MOVIES HOPING THAT ONE OR TWO WILL ULTIMATELY 'SCOME A BLOCKBUSTER. ERY DIFFICULT TO PREDICT. IF I JUST TAKE ONE SHOT ON GOAL, AND SHOTS ONOAL COULD TAKE 10 YEARS, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT I LOSE NO MATTER HOW SMART I AM.

>> Reporter: WHAT KIND OF INVESTOR IS RECEPTIVE TO YOUR PITCH?

>> WE'VE BEEN LUCKY TO WORK WITH, I THINK, INVESTORS ACROSS THE DIASPORA FROM LARGE INSTITUTIONS, LARGE PRIVATE EQUITY IN GENERALIST HEDGE FUNDS TO BIOTECH SPECIALISTS.

>> Reporter: KUMAR AND HIS TEAM REGULARLY AUDITION ACADEMICS WITH NEW RESEARCH...

>> WE'RE BASICALLY TALKING TODAY ABOUT TARGETING A RARE SET OF DISORDERS CALLED TELOMERE DISORDERS USING INSIGHM HUMAN GENETICS.

>> Reporter: ...PART OF A CONSTANT EFFORT TO EXPAND BRIDGEBIO'S PORTFOLIO. MEANWHILE, ANDY LO HOPES TO SCALE UP HIS EFFORT TO FIND CURES FOR CANCER.

>> I NOW MEASURE TIME IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PATIENTS THAT ERVE DIED EACH DAY, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET THEIR IES THAT WE NOW KNOW HOW TO CREATE. ACTUALLY HAVE THE TOOLS TO DO IT, WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE THSOURCES. AN TO ME IS UNACCEPTABLE.

>> Reporter: FOR THE PBS NEWSHOUR, THIS IS ECONOMICS CORRESPONDENT PAUL SOLMAN IN BOSTON.

>> Woodruff: NOW, HOW THE "ME MOVEMENT IS LEADING TO DIFFICULT QUESTIONS IN THE WORLD OF ART AND AMONG RENOWNED MUSEUMS OUND THE COUNTRY. THERE'S LONG BEEN DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER ONE CAN, OR SHOULD, SEPARATE THE WORK OF A GREAT ARTIST, SUCH AS PICASSO, FROM THEIR PERSONAL BEHAVIO WILLIAM BRANGHAM LOOKS AT HOW THAT QUESTION IS TAKING ON RENEWED URGENCY.

>> Brangham: CHUCK CLOSE'S LARGE-SCALE PORTRAITS HANG IN CONTEMPORARY ART MUSEUMS ACROSS THE WORLD. THEY'VE BEEN HERALDED FOR THEIR INNOVATIVE, CREATIVE APPROACH TO THIS OLDEST OF ART FORMS. BUT, DOES YOUR VIEW OF HIS WORK CHANGE ONCE YOU KNOW THIS? T DECEMBER, TWO WOMEN TOLD THE "NEW YORK TIMET CLOSE "HAD ASKED THEM TO MODEL NAKED FOR HIM, REQUESTS THAT MADE THEM FEEL EXPLOITED AND UNCOMFORTABLE." ONE ARTIST DESCRIBED HOW, ONCE CLOS CLOTHES OFF, HE STARTED "TELLING MER ABOUT SEXUAL ACTS HE PERF AND "ASKED HIGHLY INVASIVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HER INTIMATE GROOMING." CLOSE APOLOGIZED FOR MAKING INAPPROPRIATE REMARKS, TELLING THE "NEW YORK TIMES," "LAST TIME MALOOKED, DISCOMFORT WAS NOT A R OFFENSE. IF I EMBARRASSED ANYONE OR MADE THEM FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, I AM TRULY SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO. " THE FALLOUT CAME JUST DAYS LATER. THE NATIONAL GALLERY OF ART IN WASHINGTON, D.C. POSTPONED AN MAHIBITION OF CLOSE'S WORK, PLANNED FO E.ATTLE UNIVERSITY ALSO REMOVED NYPAINTING BY CLOS BUT MAF HIS FAMOUS WORKS, LIKE THIS ONE, OF PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON IN THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY, A PART OF THE SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION, ARE STILL ON DISPLAY IN MUSEUMS AROUNDHE COUNTRY. IT'S YET ANOTHER FLASHPOINT IN A NATIONAL RECKONING, AS WOM COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STORIES OF ABUSE AND HARASSMENT AT THE HANDS OF POWERFUMEN, ACROSS NUMEROUS INDUSTRIES. THE "ME TOO" MOVEMENT HAS RCED THE COUNTRY TO TAKE AS SECOND LOOK AT ART, AND WEIGHING THE PERSONAL BEHAVIOR OF THOSE WHO E EATE IT. HOW DOCKON WITH THE WORKS OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF TERRIBLE THINGS? IT'S A QUESTION BEING ASKED IN CIRCLES WELL BEYOND THE ART HERLD. SOMETIMES,ESPONSE IS SWIFT AND CLEAR-CUT.

>> SOME THINGS DON'T CHANGE, AND SOME THINGS I'M SICK OF, LIKETA THE CO PERVERTED SEXUAL THOUGHTS.

>> Brangham: LAST FALL, THE COMEDIAN LOUIS C.K. ADMITTED TO SEXUAL MISCONDUCT WITH SEVERAL WOME IN SHORT ORDER, FX NETWORKS CANCELED THEIR PRODUCTION DEAL WITH HIM. HE NO LONGER SERVES AS EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OR GETS COMPENSATED FOR HIS FOUR SWS ON THE NETWORK. SEN ACTOR KEVIN SPACEY WA ACCUSED OF SEXUALLY ABUSING A TEENAGE BOY, DIRECOTR RIDLEY T SCRAMBLED TO RESHOOT HIS SCENES WITH A DIFFERENT ACTOR FOR THE FILM "ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD." ONE OF THE MOST POLARIZING EXAMPLES: FILMMAKER WOODALLEN. HIS ADOPTED DAUGHTER DYLAN FARROW FIRST CAME FORWARD IN 1992 WITH ALLEGATIONS THAT ALLEN ABUSED HER, BEGINNIN SHE WAS SEVEN YEARS AGO. LEN DENIES THIS. BUT HE'S LARGELY RETAINED HIS VAUNTED ARTISTIC STATUS IN HOLLYWOOD, AND HAD CONTINUED TO MAKE FILMS WITH MAJOR STARS. FARROW SPOKE OUT RECENTLY, ACCUSING THOSE WHO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALLEN WH SUPPORTING THE ME TOO MOVEMENT OF HYPOCRISY.

>> WITH SO MUCH SILENCE BEING BROKEN BY SO MANY BRAVE PEOPLE AGAINST SO MANY HIGH-PROFILE PEOPLE, I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT ADD MY STORY TO THEIRS, BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH FOR A LONG TIME,

>> Brangham: ACTRESS KATE WINSLET RECENTLY SUGGESTED SHE HAD "BITTER REGRETS" ABO WORKING WITH MEN LIKE ALLEN. THIS WEEK, A CONNECTICUT THEATER SAID IT WAS CANCELING A PRODUCTION OF ALLEN'S MUSICAL, "BULLETS OVER BROADWAY." SO HOW DO WE WRANGLE WITH THE ARTISTIC WORKS OF PEOPUSED OF AWFUL BEHAVIOR? THERE'S A WIDE SPECTRUM OF VOICES ON THIS TOPIC AND TONIGHT, WE TALK TO A PROMINENT ART MUSEUM DIRECTOR WHO'S WRESTLED WITH IS VERY ISSUE. KIM SAJET IS DIRECTOR OF THE SMITHSONIAN'S NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Brangham: SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS CASE OF CHUCK CLOSE. THE NATIONAL GALLERY OF ART SAID IN LIGHT OF THESE ALLEGATIONS WE ARE GOING TO PUT OFF THIS EXHIBITION OF HIS WORK. I KNOW YOU HAVE A PIECE OF HIS GALLERY.OUR HOW DO YOU ALL RECKON WITH THIS? THESE ACCUSATIONS EXIST, THE MAN IS A GREAT ARTIST, WHAT DO WE

>> I JUST CAME FROM A MEETING OF THE AMERICAN DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION, WE WERE INANT TALKING ABOUT THIS AND I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT. WE'RE ALL TRYING TO THINK ABOUT IT. I WOULD SAY THAT THE FACT THAT -- LET'S SAY THE PENNSYLVANIA ACADEMY OF THE FINE CTS HAS AN EXHIBITION UP RIGHT NOW UCK CLOSE'S PHOTOGRAPHS, AND I THINK THE DIRECTOR HAS DONLY EXACTHE RIGHT THING. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A KNEE JERK REACTION. THEY STOPPED, THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND SAID LET'SY REAVE A CONVERSATION. NOW, OF COURSE, THE PENNSYLVANIA ACADEMY TO HAVE THE FIN ARTS IS AN ART SCHOOL. IT HAS STUDENTS, AND THEY HAVE A VERY STRONG TRADTION OF DRAWING FROM LIVE MODELS. SO FOR THEM IT ALSO HAS T EXTRA DIMENSION, AND THEY'VE DECIDED THAT, IN CONVERSATION WITH THEIR STUDENT BY AND PATRONS, THAT THEY WILL NOW DO A SECOND SORT OF DISPLAY AND WEHIBITION TALKING ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP B THE ARTIST AND THE MODEL, AND I THINK THAT'S A VERY SMART IDEA BECAUSE, AT THE END OF THE DAY, MUSEUMS ARE ABOUT CONVERSATIONS.

>> Brangha DO YOU THINK THE NATIONAL GALLERY'S DECISION WAS A KNEE JERK REACTION?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I UNDERSTAND IN SOME WAYS THAT YOU DON'T WANT THELLEGATIONS OF STORYCLOSE TO BECOME THE ARE YOU REALLY -- YOU KNOW, I THINK WE FEEL CHUCK CLOSE IS AN AMAZING ARTIST. YOU CAN'T TK ABOUT PORTTURE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT CHUCK CLOSE, BUT THEY MUSTAVE FELT AT A CERTAIN POINT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE WHAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT.

>> Brangham: MORE BROADLY, HOW DO WE RECKON WITH THE WO OF SOMEONE ACCUSED OF PROVEN TO BE A PREDATOR? SHOULD THAT AFFECT HOW WE SEE THE WORK OR WHETHER WE EVEN SEE THE WORK?

>> AT THE PORTRAIT GALLERY WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BESS THAN LAUDATORY LIVES, NOT JUST THOSE WHO HAV ACCUSED OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT, BUT MURDERERS LIKE JOHN WILKES BOOTH OR GANGSTERS LIKE AL CAPONE OU STRATEGY HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO BE VERY UP FRONT ABOUT WHAT THE PEOPLE DID BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WERE SET UP BY CONGRESS TO TALK ABOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE MADE AN IACT ON AMERICAN CULTURE AND HISTORY AND CHUCK CLOSE HAS, IN THE COLLECTION BOTH AS AN ARTIST AND ALSO A SIRTE. SO HE PLAYS A DOUBLE ROLE.L SO WE RLY REWRITE 140 WORDS, ENGLISH AND SPANISH, ABOUT THE BIOGRAPHY OF THAT PERSON ANDEN THEY CAN O GET REWRITTEN. SO WE WILL CHANGE, YOU KNOW,T E CONT SOMEONE AS TIME GOES ON.

>> Woodruff: DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A RIS IN CONDEMNING AN ARTIST FOR ONE PART OF THEIR LIFE -- I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE EXCUSED, BUT DYOU THINK THERE'S A RISK THAT WE CAST ASIDE AN ENTIRE BODY OF WORK BECAUSE OF THE BEHAVIOR AT ONE SLICE OF THEIR LIFE?

>> I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN E.A LITTL I'M NOT SAYING WE DO NOTHING, BUT I DO THINK HAVING A DIALOGUE AND HAVING VERY CAREFUL AND DELIBERATIVE ABOUT WHAT THE MESSAGING IS. BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, A LOT OF FABULOUS ARTISTS HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HAD QUESTIONABLE MORALS AND, YET, YOU KNOW, WE STILL ENJOY PICASSO, FOR EXAM OPL CHILINI WHO WAS DEFINITELY ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

>> Brangham: DIEGO REVERA. YES. THEY HAVEN'T RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO TEMPORARY TIMES. IN THE PORTRAIT GALLERY, WE HAVE LOTS OF SITTERS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE'VE HAD TO DEAL WITH AN ARTIST'S REPUTATION,, BUT AGAIN, THERE IS A TENDENCY TO HAVE A KNEE-JERK REACTN. I'D CAUTION EVERYONE TO SLOW DOWN. I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT MUSEUMS ARE THE ONE PLACE YOU CAN HAVE A DIALOGUE. SIGNING ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED A LABOUT WAS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU PROVIDE AN AVENUE FOR THE PUBLIC T REALLY TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS?

>> Brangham: THIS REMINDS ME OF THE DEBATE WE HAD OVER CONFEDERATE MONUMENTS.

>> YES.

>> Brangham: SOM ARGUED TH WNUMENTS SHOULD STAY UP BUT WE SHOUP THEM IN THE CONTEXT OF WHO PUT THEM UP, WHY AND WHAT THE PERSON ON THE TOP OF THE STATUE DID IN THEIR LIFE. DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH ARTIST, CAN YOU DO IT WITH A LARGE, POWERFUL PIECE OF ARTWORK? I CAN YOU WRAPIN A CONTEXT THAT YOU WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IF THAT PERSON HAD DONE AWFUL THINGS IN THEIRLIFE THAT THAT CONTEXT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL FOR A VIEWER? YES, I DO THINK SO. I'M NOT CONDONING THAT PERSON. I DON'T THINK WE CAN EXCS SEXUAL HARASSMENT IN ANY FORM, BUT I DO THINK PUTTING IT IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW THAT MAY HAVE INFORMED THAT PERSON'S WO, THE SOCIAL MORES AT THE TIME AND W KNOW, OF COURSE, OUR APPROACH TO SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT IT WAS BACK THEN. I REMEMBER THERE WAS A QUOTE DONE OF LORD BYRON, HE WAS MEAN, BAD AND NOT TO BE TRIFLED WITH, SORT OF, AND IT WAS SEEN IN THIS IDEA OF THE ARTIST AS BEING SOMEHOW EXEMPT OF THE SOCIAL MORES, RIGHT, THIS IDEA THAT SOMEHOW ARTISTS GET A PASS ON GOOGOOD MANNERS.

>> AND THAT WOULD BE A FUEL FOR BRILLIANCE IN ART.

>> BRILLIANCE,ND WE'RE AT A INT WHERE WE SAY THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR ALL SORTS OF BUT DOES IT CHANGE? I THINK THE QUESTION AT THE END OF THE DAY IS THE STILL GOODT, ND IT DOESN'T EXCUSE IT, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING .HAT ADDS TO THAT STOR

>> Brangham: SO THE MERITS OF THE ART ITSELF MATTER IN THIS CASE, YOU WOULD ARGUE, THAT CHUCK CLOSE IS, AS YOU WERE SAYING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PORTTURE, YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT CHUCK CLOSE, SO WE HAVE TO TAKE HIM IN THE FULLNESS OF HIS HUMANITY.

>> YES, AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE ACTIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED IN THIS COUNTRY, GOOD AND BAD MATTERS. IF WE WERE TO HAVE AN OPINION OF THLTURE AND ONLY JUST LOOK AT GREAT THINGS, WE WOULD NOT LEARN FROM THE LESSER THINGS. I THINK THE MORE INTERTING CONVERSATIONS WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT REGRET, THINGS THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ACHIE, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO HAVE MORE OF THATN. CONVERSATIO

>> Brangham: KIM SAJET OF THE NATIONAL PORTRAIT GALLERY, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU'RE SO WELCOME.

>> Woodruff: FINALLY, OUR WEEKLY BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR SERIES WHERE WE ASK PEOPLE ABOUT THEIR PASSIONS. TONIGHT, WE HEAR FROM ZESHAN B, A CHICAGO-BASED MUSICIAN WHO COMBES HIS INDIAN HERITAGE A LOVE FOR R&B AND SOUL MUSIC TO CREATE A UNIQUE SOUND OF HIS OWN.

>> I WENT TO COLLEGE AT NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY, AND I STUDIED MUSIC, ACTUALLY STUDIED AS AN OPERA SINGER. WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, MY VOICE TEACHER DISCOVERED THAT I HAD LIKE AN OPERATIC VOICE. N I ME EVERY KID CAN SING. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ MY MOM WAS BORN HYDERABAD BUT SHE GREW UP MUMBAI, MY DAD IS FROM A SMALL TINY VILLAGE IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE IN SOUTHERN USDIA. THERE WAS ALWAYS IN MY HOUSE, MY MOM AND DAD WERE ALWAYS LISTENING TO SOMETHING. ON ONE HAND U KNOW-- YOU KNOW THEY WERE LISTENING TO, YOU KNOW, SOUL MUSIC AND SOUL ARTISTS LIKE YOU KNOW, BILL WITHERS AND YOU KNOW, MARVIN GAYE AND YOU KNOW, CURTIS MAYFIELD AND CATS LIKE THAT, BUT THEN ALSO YOU KNOW, THE MUSIC OF INDIA AND PAKISTAN. AS I GOT MORE AND MORE INTO MUSIC I'VE REALLY JUST KIND OF REALIZ THAT'S ME, THAT'S WHERE I GREW OSU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY WHERE I FEELAT HOME. WHEN IT CAME TO YOU KNOW, PERFORMING IT, I FELT LIKE I COULD LET OUT ALL OF MY ENERGY WHETHER IT WAS GOOD OR BAD. WHEN I GOT TO HIGH SI WAS IN GOSPEL CHOIR AND THAT WAS A VERY TRANSFORMATIVE EXPERIENCE THCAUSE HERE I AM, I'M THE ONLY I'ONLY PERSON IN THE CHOIR WHO'S NOT BLACK. UNTIL THEY HEARD ME SING OF COURSE, THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT ME FUNNY LIKE WHAT'S THIS GUY ING HERE? DID HE GET LOST? YOU KNOW, CHESS CLUB IS THAT WAY BRO. I'VE BEEN A BIG BELIER IN JUST LEAVING IT ALL ON STAGE AND GOSPEL CHOIR ALLOWED ME TO DO ASAT, THERE WASN'T A SET RULE LIKE OKAY ITO BE THIS WAY OR THAT WAY, IT'S JUST LIKE AS LONG AS YOU GOT THAT FEELS, YOU GOT THAT GROOVE AND YOU KNOW, YOU'RE POINTING YOUR HEART AND SOUL INTO IT. MY ALBUM "VETTED" IS REALLY JUST SOMEF MY OWN LIFE EXPERIENCE AT THE TIME THAT I WAS YOU KNOW, TAKING SON FOR THE ALBUM AND WRITING SONGS FOR THE ALBUM. THERE WAS A WHOLE DEAL OF UNREST GOING ON IN AMERICA, THE YOU KNOW, THE EVENTS IN FERGUSON THAT TAKE IN PLA, THE-- THE RIOTS IN BALTIMORE. I KNEW SANDRA BLAND, I WASN'T EXTREMELY CLOSE TO HER BUT SHE WAS IN YOU KNOW, MY CIRCLE OF FRIENDS, IN FACT, AT PROM SHE WAS MY BEST FRIEND'S PROM DATE AD YOU KNOW, SHE SAT NEXT TO ME AFTER PR YOU KNOW WE HAD ENNNER TOGETHER. LEARNED OF HER DEATH UNDER THOSE MYSTERIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES I FELT FURTHER GALVANIZED TO-- TO USE MY PLATFORM AS MUSICIAN, TO SPEAK OUT ON THE ISSUES THAT PLAGUE OUR SOCIETY. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS THAT OPLE LISTEN TO MUSIC AND FEEL INSPIRED TO DO SOMETHING GOOD. WHETHER IT'S-- WHETHER IT'S BIG OR SMALL, BUT USE IT TO DO TOMETHING GOOD TO BE TENDERED, TO BE LOVINGE DECENT AND TO BE JUST TO THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM, MUSIC IS POWERFUL LIKE THAT. MY NAME IS ZESHAN B AND THIS IS MY BRIEF B GROOVIN' FOR CHANGE.

>> Woodruff: YOU CAN FIND ADDITIONAL BRIEF BUT SPECTACULAR VIDEOS ON OUR WEBSITE, pbs.org/newshour/bri. AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT. I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. JOIN US ONLINE AND AGAIN HERE TOMORROW EVENING WITH MARK SHIELDS AND DAVID BROOKS. FOR ALL OF US AT THE PBS NEWSHOUR, THANK YOU AND SEE YOU SOON.

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