PBS NewsHour; April 27, 2015 3:00pm-4:00pm PDT

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>> Ifill: DEVASTATION IN NEPAL. THE DEATH TOLL CLIMBS, AS RESCUE TEAMS STRUGGLE TO PROVIDE AID AND MEDICAL SUPPLIES IN THE WAKE OF THE MASSIVE EARTHQUAKE. GOOD EVENING, I'M GWEN IFILL.

>> Woodruff: AND I'M JUDY WOODRUFF. ALSO AHEAD THIS MONDAY: VIOLENT CLASHES WITH POLICE IN BALTIMORE. PROTESTERS TAKE TO THE STREETS AGAIN, AFTER MOURNERS PAY RESPECT TO FREDDIE GRAY, WHO DIED IN POLICE CUSTODY.

>> Ifill: PLUS, IN THEIR OWN WORDS. WE HEAR FROM THE FAMILIES AT THE CENTER OF THE SUPREME COURT'S LANDMARK CASE ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

>> MARRIAGE SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR GAYS AND LESBIANS AS IT IS FOR HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES.

>> THEY SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. BUT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.

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>> Woodruff: THE DEATH TOLL IN NEPAL'S EARTHQUAKE ZONE TOPPED 4,000 TODAY, WITH MORE THAN 6,500 INJURED, AND THE SITUATION FOR SURVIVORS GREW INCREASINGLY DIRE. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FLED THE RAVAGED CAPITAL, KATMANDU, AS FOOD AND WATER RAN OUT, AND AFTERSHOCKS CONTINUED. MANY OTHERS REMAINED BEHIND, LOOKING FOR THOSE STILL ALIVE. WE BEGIN, WITH THIS REPORT FROM MARK AUSTIN OF INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS.

>> Reporter: IT IS, OR RATHER WAS, A PLACE OF ANCIENT BEAUTY. A PLACE OF TOURISTS, TEA SHOPS AND WONDEROUS TEMPLES. BUT TODAY, IT IS A PLACE WHERE THEY DIG FOR FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS WITH THEIR BARE HANDS. SHIA LAXMI DUG OUT HER DAUGHTER ALIVE SOON AFTER THE EARTHQUAKE. BUT SAYS THERE ARE DOZENS MORE BODIES BURIED HERE. NEARBY, 24-YEAR-OLD SANJIV SHOWS ME WHAT'S LEFT OF HIS HOUSE, TWO OF HIS FAMILY ARE MISSING.

>> IT'S MY BROTHERS. IT'S MY YOUNGER BROTHER. AND MY BROTHER'S WIFE. MY ELDER BROTHER'S WIFE.

>> Reporter: AND THEY'RE MISSING UNDER THERE.

>> THEY'RE MISSING, WE'RE HELPLESS, IT WAS JUST A NIGHTMARE. IT'S A NIGHTMARE. I JUST NEED TO FIND THEIR BODIES.

>> Reporter: WHILE WE'RE THERE, THE LOCAL POLICE TURN UP, BUT THEY ARE OVERWHELMED AND WITHOUT THE WHEREWITHAL TO HELP. ALL AROUND US IN BAKHTAPUR, THERE IS DESPAIR AND HOPELESSNESS. THE LOCAL POLICE AND THE ARMY ARE HERE, BUT QUITE FRANKLY, PICKAXES, SHOVELS AND BARE HANDS ARE NOT GOING TO FIND TOO MANY PEOPLE UNDER THIS MOUNTAIN OF RUBBLE. THEY NEED HELP, THEY NEED INTERNATIONAL HELP, THEY NEED RUBBLE MOVING EQUIPMENT URGENTLY. AND AT THE MOMENT, THEY'RE NOT SEEING IT HERE. SO REGULAR ARE THE AFTERSHOCKS HERE, AND SO FRIGHTENED THE PEOPLE, THAT AT BAKHTAPUR'S HOSPITAL, THEY ARE BEING TREATED OUTSIDE UNDER TENTS. THESE PEOPLE FEEL BETRAYED BY NATURE AND MUST WONDER WHAT ON EARTH HAS HAPPENED TO THEM AND THEIR CITY. THIS PLACE HAS STOOD FOR CENTURIES AS THE PRIDE OF THIS GREAT CITY. NOW BAKTHAPUR STANDS ONLY AS A SHATTERED TESTIMONY TO NATURE'S INDISCRIMINATE POWER.

>> Woodruff: U.S. OFFICIALS SAID TODAY FOUR AMERICANS ARE AMONG THE DEAD IN NEPAL. WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FROM NEAR THE QUAKE EPICENTER, AND MUCH MORE, AFTER THE NEWS SUMMARY.

>> Ifill: THE ISSUE OF DRONE STRIKES ON MILITANTS IN PAKISTAN TOOK A NEW TURN TODAY. IT WAS WIDELY REPORTED THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS SECRETLY ALLOWED THE C.I.A. GREATER LEEWAY IN LAUNCHING STRIKES IN PAKISTAN. RULES GOVERNING DRONE ATTACKS ELSEWHERE WERE TIGHTENED IN 2013, TO CUT DOWN ON CIVILIAN CASUALTIES. THE PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED LAST WEEK THAT A STRIKE IN JANUARY KILLED TWO HOSTAGES, ONE AMERICAN AND ONE ITALIAN.

>> Woodruff: LORETTA LYNCH WAS SWORN IN TODAY AS U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL. SHE'S THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO HOLD THE OFFICE. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN ADMINISTERED THE OATH OF OFFICE AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. IN HER REMARKS, THE NEW ATTORNEY GENERAL DID NOT MENTION POLICE KILLINGS OF MINORITIES DIRECTLY, BUT SHE MADE CLEAR IT'S A MAIN CHALLENGE.

>> WE CAN IMBUE OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WITH BOTH STRENGTH AND FAIRNESS FOR THE PROTECTION OF BOTH THE NEEDS OF VICTIMS AND THE RIGHTS OF ALL. WE CAN RESTORE TRUST AND FAITH BOTH IN OUR LAWS AND THOSE OF US WHO ENFORCE THEM.

>> Woodruff: LYNCH SUCCEEDS ERIC HOLDER, WHO SERVED AS ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR SIX YEARS.

>> Ifill: LAWYERS FOR THE CONVICTED BOSTON MARATHON BOMBER URGED A JURY TODAY TO SPARE HIS LIFE. IN ITS OPENING STATEMENT, THE DEFENSE SAID DZOKHAR TSARNAEV WAS LED ASTRAY BY HIS OLDER BROTHER. ATTORNEY DAVID BRUCK ARGUED AGAINST IMPOSING THE DEATH PENALTY, SAYING "THERE IS NO EVENING THE SCALES." INSTEAD, HE CALLED FOR A SENTENCE OF LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE.

>> Woodruff: ANOTHER LABOR DISPUTE HAS HIT THE NATION'S BUSIEST PORT COMPLEX. HUNDREDS OF TRUCK DRIVERS WALKED OFF THE JOB TODAY AT THE PORTS OF LOS ANGELES AND LONG BEACH IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. THEIR TRUCKS SAT IDLE AS THEY WALKED A PICKET LINE DEMANDING BETTER PAY.

>> Ifill: PRESIDENT OBAMA WARNED TODAY AGAINST MOVES IN CONGRESS TO REIN IN FREE TRADE. HE TOLD "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT CHINA WILL STEP INTO THE VACUUM IF CONGRESS FAILS TO APPROVE A TRADE DEAL WITH ASIA. LATER, THE PRESIDENT WELCOMED JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER ABE, AND TOOK HIM ON A TOUR OF THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL.

>> Woodruff: AND WALL STREET STARTED THE WEEK ON A DOWN NOTE. THE DOW JONES INDUSTRIAL AVERAGE LOST 40 POINTS TO CLOSE BELOW 18,040. THE NASDAQ FELL 30, AND THE S&P 500 SLID 8. STILL TO COME ON THE NEWSHOUR: MORE ON THE DEVASTATION AND DESPAIR IN NEPAL. PROTESTERS CONTINUE TO CLASH WITH POLICE IN BALTIMORE. VOICES AT THE CENTER OF THE LANDMARK GAY MARRIAGE CASE BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT. AMY WALTER AND TAMARA KEITH ON THE WEEK AHEAD IN POLITICS. OPENING ARGUMENTS IN THE MOVIE THEATER SHOOTING TRIAL IN COLORADO. AND, THE DEATH OF AN ACTIVIST WHO FOUGHT FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS IN PAKISTAN.

>> Ifill: WE RETURN TO THE DEVASTATION AND DESPERATION IN NEPAL. AS WE REPORTED EARLIER, AID IS COMING IN AT A PAINFULLY SLOW PACE TO THE CAPITAL OF KATHMANDU, BUT ALSO TO THE QUAKE'S EPICENTER, FIVE HOURS EAST. DAN RIVERS OF INDEPENDENT TELEVISION NEWS TRAVELED TO THE COUNTRY'S GORKHA DISTRICT, ALONG WITH THE EMERGENCY WORKERS TRAPPED IN TRAFFIC.

>> Reporter: REMOTE AND AS YET UNREACHED BY THE OUTSIDE WORLD, THESE VILLAGES IN GORKHA DISTRICT ARE NEAR THE EPICENTER OF THIS DISASTER, AND THE DAMAGE IS SUBSTANTIAL. ON HILL RIDGES, SOME ONLY ACCESSIBLE BY FOOT, THE CHALLENGE FOR THE RESCUE EFFORT IS OBVIOUS. AND THE SIGNS AREN'T GOOD. EVEN IN THE LARGER TOWNS, IT IS THE SAME AWFUL IMAGERY. AND AN EERIE STILLNESS. AND THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO GORKHA BY ROAD. THE MAIN HIGHWAY IS CHOKED WITH TRAFFIC CAUSED BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TRYING TO LEAVE KATHMANDU. SOME FLEEING IN FEAR FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. SOME OUT OF CONCERN FOR OTHERS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO CHECK ON YOUR...

>> I AM GOING TO CHECK MY HOUSE.

>> Reporter: AND YOUR FAMILY IS OKAY?

>> FAMILY ARE OKAY, BUT HOUSE IS NO HOUSE.

>> Reporter: THERE'S NO HOUSE LEFT? IT'S DESTROYED?

>> YES.

>> Reporter: YOU GET A SENSE OF THE LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE TRYING TO RESPOND TO THIS EARTHQUAKE. THIS TRAFFIC JAM WE'VE BEEN STUCK IN FOR HOURS STRETCHES BACK FOR MILES. AND THIS IS THE ONLY ROAD TO THE EPICENTER. SOME AMBULANCES ARE GETTING THROUGH, BUT PROGRESS IS PAINFULLY SLOW. AND THE INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE HAS HARDLY BEGUN.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVING TOWN, SEEMINGLY HEADED TOWARD THE INDIAN BORDER. BUT WE'VE BEEN STUCK FOR HOURS AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET A MEDICAL TEAM NOW. SO ACCESS IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.

>> Reporter: IN THE BEST OF TIMES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF NEPAL IS FRAGILE. AND THESE ARE THE WORST OF TIMES. PEOPLE DOING WHATEVER IT TAKES TO FIND THOSE THEY LOVE. ON THIS, THE THIRD NIGHT SINCE THE EARTHQUAKE, THIS WAS THE SCENE ON THE ROAD TO GURKHA. WE FOUND THIS VIGIL FOR THE MISSING, SPELLING OUT A SIMPLE MESSAGE: PRAY FOR NEPAL. WITH SO MANY FAMILIES STILL CUT OFF FROM HELP, TONIGHT, THERE SEEMS NOTHING ELSE THEY CAN DO.

>> Ifill: DAN RIVERS SPOKE TO US AFTER FILING HIS REPORT. SEVERAL THINGS HAVE STRUCK ME ON THE JOURNEY TO THE DISTRICT. THE LOGISTICS ARE HORRENDOUS, THIS RESCUE OPERATION ONE TRUNK LOAD GOES ACROSS THIS PART OF NEPAL IS CHOKED WITH TRAFFIC CAUSED BY A LANDSLIDE. THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO GET THE SUPPLIES MANY WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED. SECONDLY, A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN HIT APPARENTLY ARE ON THE TOPS OF THE HILLS WHERE THERE IS NOT EVEN VEHICLE ACCESS. IT'S AMAZING IN THE VALLEYS HOW LITTLE DAMAGE THERE IS. THE DAMAGE IS MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE HIGHER UP INTO THE MOUNTAINS WHERE IT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GET TO, AND TO GET TO THOSE PLACES, THEY WILL BE RELYING ON HELICOPTERS AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY AT THE MOMENT IN NEPAL TO GET THE HELICOPTERS AND GET THE PEOPLE OUT. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S NOORN 6,000 PEOPLE INJURED. WE HAVE SEEN ON THE ROAD TODAY MANY INDIAN ARMY VEHICLES SO PERHAPS INDIA CAN BRING IN THE RESOURCES NEPAL IS APPARENTLY LACKING.

>> Ifill: EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON I SPOKE VIA SYKPE TO ONE OF THE MANY INTERNATIONAL AID WORKERS TRYING TO HELP IN NEPAL. ANDY BASTABLE IS HEAD OF WATER AND SANITATION AT OXFAM, HE IS IN KATHMANDU. ANDY, TELL US WHAT ARE THE IMMEDIATE CHALLENGES YOU NAYS ON THE GROUND.

>> IT'S MANY LOGISTICS. KATRINA ISKATMANDU IS A BIG CITY WITH BIG SUBURBS AND YOU HAVE AREAS WHERE BUILDINGS HAVE FALLEN DOWN AND THEN LETTING GROUPS OF DISPLACED PEOPLE. SO 16 DESIGNATED OFFICIAL AREAS AREAS AND THEN MORE UNOFFICIAL AREAS. WE'VE BLOCKED ROADS, BLOCKED WITH RUBBLES OR TRAFFIC, AND THEN OXFAM IS SUPPLYING WATER AND WE'RE DOING SANITATION AT THE SITES. WE STARTED WATER TRUCKING. SO IT'S MAINLY AROUND THE LOGISTICS OF GETTING TO EACH PLACE QUICKLY.

>> Ifill: IT SEEMS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE MIGHT BE THE SCOPE. HOW DO YOU EVEN GAUGE WHAT THE SCOPE OF THE NEED IS?

>> THAT'S TRUE. WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE. ONE IS TO START WATER TRUCKING, WE'RE STARTING BUILDING OUR OXFAM TANKS AT THE DISPLAY FENCES AND AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE OTHER TEAMS OUT ASSESSING FURTHER AREAS. FOR THE MOMENT, THE ACCESS IS IN THE KATMANDU AREA BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO GET TO.

>> Ifill: ARE THE AFTERSHOCKS PRESENTING A LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE?

>> YES BUT MOSTLY IN THE FEAR OF THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE HOUSE AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED OR THEIR OWN HOUSE IS GOING TO COLLAPSE. THESE AFTERSHOCKS REPRESENT A HUGE TRAUMATIC EVENT AND JUST REMINDS THEM OF ALL THE TRAUMA THEY WENT THROUGH EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. SO IT'S MORE TRAUMATIC. MOST OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS WILL HAVE FALLEN DOWN AND THEN SMALLER ONES AFTER THE AFTERSHOCKS OCCUR.

>> Ifill: IS THERE ANY WAY TO COMPARE WHAT WE'RE SEEING UNFOLD HERE WITH OTHER DISASTERS AROUND THE WORLD?

>> YES. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, THIS ISN'T ON THE STAY -- THIS ISN'T ON THE SCALE OF HAITI. KATMANDU IS NOT THE SAME AS THE MASS DEVASTATION IN PORT-AU-PRINCE IN 2010. SO NOT QUITE AS BIG AS THAT, BUT IT'S COVERING A WIDER AREA. THE POVERTY LEVELS WHEN YOU GET OUT OF KATMANDU ARE MORE EXTREME.

>> Brown: THANK YOU ANDY BASTABLE OF OXFAM.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> Ifill: THE 7.8 MAGNITUDE EARTHQUAKE WAS THE STRONGEST TO HIT THE HIMALAYAN NATION IN MORE THAN 80 YEARS. THE COUNTRY IS AT THE JUNCTION OF A MAJOR FAULT LINE BETWEEN TWO TECTONIC PLATES, THE INDIAN AND EURASIAN ONES. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS COLOR- CODED MAP, STRONG SHAKES WERE FELT FAR AWAY FROM THE EPICENTER NORTHEAST OF KATHMANDU. ORANGE AND YELLOW AREAS INDICATE STRONG TO SEVERE SHAKING. IN THE DAYS SINCE, THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST 18 AFTERSHOCKS. TO HELP US UNDERSTAND MORE, I'M JOINED BY DAVID APPLEGATE ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR FOR NATURAL HAZARDS, WITH THE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. SO GIVE US THE GEOLOGICAL EXPLANATION THE LAYMAN'S EXPLANATION FOR WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED HERE.

>> SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THISIARY IS IT'S A -- WITH THIS AREA IS IT'S A COLLISION ZONE. MOST TO HAVE THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE TECTONIC PLATES COLLIDED GEFNTION ONE ANOTHER, OCEANIC PLATES GOING NEXT TO OTHER ONES. INDIA IS SLAMMING INTO ASIA IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THE LAST 50 MILLION YEARS. IT'S AN INEXORABLE PROCESS. THE ON THE GROUND PROCESS IS THE STRESS BUILD AND WINDS AND FINALLY THEY BREAK AND THAT'S AN EARTHQUAKE.

>> Ifill: THIS WAS AN AREA PRONE TO THE QUAKES? WAS IT INEVITABLE? DID YOU SEE IT COMING?

>> ABSOLUTELY. IT WAS INEVITABLE WHEN YOU SEE THE LONG-TERM HAS REDS. THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT EARTHQUAKES. THERE HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE LAST FIFTY50 OR 60 YEARS. WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM RECENTLY SO THERE WAS THE INEVITABILITY THAT IT WOULD HAPPEN.

>> Ifill: WAS THIS A SLOW BUILDUP?

>> IN THIS PARTICULAR ZONE, YOU SAUL IT STARTS IN ONE PLACE, IN THE EPICENTER --

>> Ifill: NORTHWEST. I SAID NORTHEAST.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, OFF TO THE NORTHWEST. THEN IT RUPTURED TO THE EAST PAST KATMANDU. SO A WHOLE SEGMENT OF THE THIS LARGE FAULT RUPTURED. THAT RELIEVES THE STRESS THERE BUT IT MEANS THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL STRESS ON OTHER SECTIONS OF THE FAULT.

>> Ifill: SO IS IT FAIR TO TO SAY THAT THE LAST BIG QUAKE IN THIS REGION HAPPENED IN 1984 MORE THAN 80 YEARS AGO THAT THIS WAS OVERDUE?

>> WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER EVENTS, OTHER SECTIONS OF THE PLATE, BUT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ZONE, THAT 1934 QUAKE DIDN'T RELIEVE THE STRESS. IT WAS FORTED TORE THE WEST. THE EPICENTER WAS SOUTH OF MT. EVEREST. SO IT WOULD RE LEAVE THE STRESS IN THATIARY BUT NOT THIS AREA.

>> MUCH DISCUSSION ABOUT AFTERSHOCKS. WE HEARD THE AID WORKING TALK ABOUT FEAR BUT THERE WERE OTHER CONCERNS AS WELL.

>> AFTERSHOCKS ARE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S MOST DIFFICULT OF DIALING WITH A LARGE EARTHQUAKE DISASTER. WITH THE HURRICANE, THE WEATHER COMES THROUGH, THE SUN COMES OUT, IT'S OVER. BUT WITH THE AFTERSHOCKS, IT'S THAT CONSTANT DRUM BEAT AND AS WE HEARD FROM OXFAM, THE ISSUE HERE IS IT'S ALSO A MEANT ONE IN ADDITION TO THE PHYSICAL EFFECTS OF IT THAT FOR EVERY MAGNITUDE 5 -- AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL -- WE'VE HAD OVER 50 MAGNITUDE 4 AND 5 EARTHQUAKES AND A COUPLE OF MAGNITUDE 6s IN THE AFTERSHOCK ZONE ACROSS THE WHOLE AREA WE DESCRIBED. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THAT MEANS YOU STILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF SMALLER 23s AND 4s THAT WILL BE AFFECTING PEOPLE CONSTANTLY SO THAT'S A HUGE CHALLENGE.

>> Ifill: GIVEN THE TO TOPOLOGY IS THE DEATH RATE GOING TO RISE?

>> THE YEP CENTER REGION IS VERY REMOTE. IT'S NOT JUST THE ISSUE OF THE EARTHQUAKE SHAKE ITSELF BUT LANDSLIDES WILL HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE REGION THAT CAN HAVE FURTHER EFFECTS DAMMING RIVERS, POTENTIAL FOR DOWNSTREAM.

>> Ifill: DAVID APPLEGATE U.S. GEOLOGICAL SURVEY. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Woodruff: NOW TO BALTIMORE, WHERE A DAY THAT BEGAN WITH THE SOMBER QUIET OF A FUNERAL, TURNED INTO MELEES IN THE STREETS. IT REVOLVED AROUND THE DEATH IN POLICE CUSTODY OF FREDDIE GRAY. TROUBLE ERUPTED AT MID AFTERNOON. POLICE ARE RIOT CLUBS CONFRONTED YOUTH AT MALL, IT GREW INTO STREET BATTLES, WITH STONES BEING THROWN AND ATTACKING CARS. SEVEN OFFICERS WERE HURT.

>> IT IS A GROUP OF LAWLESS INDIVIDUALS WITH NO REGARD FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OR OUR POLICE OFFICER.

>> Woodruff: THE VIOLENCE WAS A FAR CRY FROM THE SCENE EARLIER. (MUSIC) MOURNERS STREAMED INTO THE NEW SHILOH BAPTIST CHURCH THIS MORNING, MANY OVERCOME WITH GRIEF FOR FOR FREDDIE GRAY. THE 25-YEAR-OLD DIED IN POLICE CUSTODY FUELING A NATIONWIDE DEBATE THAT LOOMED OVER TODAY'S SERVICE.

>> AS THE CITY, NATION, WORLD LOOKS IN, WE ARE EVER MINDFUL OF THE REASON THAT WE ARE HERE. THAT A FAMILY HAS HAD AND IS YET STANDING ON THE BANKS OF THE JORDAN, TO WAVE FAREWELL TO A SON, TO THEIR LOVED ONE, WHOSE LIFE WE NOW CELEBRATE IN MEMORY.

>> Woodruff: SOME 2,500 PEOPLE LISTENED AS CHURCH LEADERS AND RELATIVES OF GRAY SPOKE OF THEIR ANGUISH, AND DETERMINATION.

>> FOR YOU BROTHER I PROMISE YOU THIS I WILL GO ON WITH MY LIFE AND MAKE YOU PROUD. I WILL ALWAYS HOLD YOU IN MY HEART. I PROMISE YOU I WILL BE MISSING YOU, EVERY DAY TIL THE END OF TIME.

>> THE REASON I WANT YOU NOT TO CRY, IS BECAUSE FREDDIE'S DEATH IS NOT IN VAIN. AFTER THIS DAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON MARCHING. AFTER THIS DAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DEMANDING JUSTICE. AFTER THIS DAY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP EXPOSING OUR CULTURE OF CORRUPTION. AFTER THIS DAY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MONITORING OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS. WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T CRY.

>> Woodruff: GRAY'S DEATH HAS GALVANIZED DAILY PROTESTS IN BALTIMORE, WITH THOUSANDS GIVING VOICE TO THEIR OUTRAGE. THEY'VE OVERWHELMED CITY STREETS, AND THEY'D REMAINED MOSTLY PEACEFUL, UNTIL THE END OF SATURDAY'S MARCH. VIOLENCE ERUPTED WHEN SOME IN THE CROWD BROKE AWAY TO VANDALIZE CARS AND STOREFRONTS DOWNTOWN. 35 PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED AND SIX POLICE OFFICERS WERE HURT. MAYOR STEPHANIE RAWLINGS-BLAKE CONDEMNED THE VIOLENCE.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE TO EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN OUR CITY.

>> Woodruff: AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION INTO GRAY'S ARREST AND DEATH IS EXPECTED TO BE FINISHED BY THE END OF THE WEEK. IN THE MEANTIME, SIX POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SUSPENDED WITH PAY.

>> Woodruff: JOINING ME NOW FROM BALTIMORE IS SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT JACKIE JUDD. JACKIE, TELL US WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT IS THE SITUATION RIGHT NOW.

>> GOOD EVENING, JUDY. I AM STANDING IN FRONT OF THE SHILOH BAPTIST BAPTIST CHURCH WHERE EARLIER TODAY THERE WAS A FUNERAL FOR FREDDIE GRAY. THERE WERE APPEALS FOR PEACE. WITHIN TWO HOURS OF THE FUNERAL ENDING, NORTH OF HERE VIOLENCE BROKE OUT. THERE WERE GROUPS OF MOSTLY YOUNG PEOPLE. THEY APPEARED TO BE VERY DISORGANIZED. THEY WALKED AROUND FOR A BIT AND THEN BECAME VIOLENT. THEY WERE HURLING ROCKS AND STONES AT THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO WERE RIOT EQUIPPED. THE POLICE FROM MY EYE, THEY APPEARED TO ACT IN A VERY RESTRAINED MANNER. WE ARE TOLD ABOUT HALF A DOZEN OFFICERS ARE INJURED ONE IS UNRESPONSIVE, IN THE WORDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THERE HAS BEEN SOME LOOTING OF STORES. WE SAW FROM AERIAL COVERAGE BY A LOCAL STATION ONE POLICE CAR SEEMINGLY UNOCCUPIED WAS POUNCED UPON BY PROBABLY 30 OR 40 PROTESTERS, A TACTICAL UNIT SUDDENLY APPEARED. THE OFFICERS RACED OUT, THE CROWD DISPERSED, ONE MAN ON THE GROUND HAS LIKELY BEEN ARRESTED.

>> Woodruff: JACKIE, I WANTED TO ASK YOU HOW ORGANIZED THE SCENE. YOU SAID APPEARED TO BE JUST GROUPS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.

>> IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE ORGANIZED. TO BE HONEST JUDY HEARING THE COVERAGE FROM THE LOCAL STATIONS AROUND HERE WHO KNOW THE GROUND MUCH BETTER -- SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S A CRAZY ENVIRONMENT. YOU CAN PROBABLY HEAR THE HELICOPTERS OVERHEAD. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME YOUNG PEOPLE WALKING BY IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA. BUT IT APPEARS IT WAS NOT ORG -- NOT ORGANIZED AND SUDDENLY THE VIOLENCE BROKE OUT. SOMETHING SIMILAR HAPPENED SATURDAY NIGHT WHEN THERE WAS ANOTHER DEMONSTRATION WHICH WAS HIGHLY ORGANIZED AND QUITE PEACEFUL FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE EVENING THERE WERE WHAT THE POLICE CALL POCKETS OF CHAOS WHERE THERE WAS LOOTING, DESTRUCTION OF SEVERAL POLICE CARS SOME MINOR INJURIES TO SOME POLICE OFFICERS.

>> Woodruff: WELL, EARLIER IN THE DAY, YOU WERE THERE FOR THE FUNERAL OF FREDDIE GRAY. IT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION A DIFFERENT STORY THEN.

>> IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE JUST A BRIEF RESPITE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FROM THE TENSION HERE ON THE STREETS. THERE WERE ABOUT 2200 PEOPLE THE WHITE HOUSE SENT SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES, THERE WERE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, BUT MOST OF THE 2200 PEOPLE WHO WERE HERE JUDY, WERE JUST PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO WANTED TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS. BILLY MURPHY WHO IS THE GRAY FAMILY'S LAWYER IS ONE WHO SPOKE. HE SAID, I KNOW MOST OF YOU DIDN'T KNOW FREDDIE GRAY BUT MOST OF YOU OR ALL OF YOU KNOW MANY FREDDIE GRAYS. WHAT HE MEANT BY THAT IS THEY KNOW OTHER YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN AND IN SOME CASES WOMEN WHO HAVE ALSO HAD VIOLENT, UNPLEASANT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, CONFRONTATIONS WITH THE LOCAL POLICE HERE. IF THERE WAS A SCENE, THIS IS A MOMENT BALTIMORE LEADERS NEED TO SEIZE TO PERFORM. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT OUTFITTING POLICE OFFICERS WITH BODY CAMS, TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGATIONS OF POLICE BRUTALITY AND FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HIRE MORE LOCAL PEOPLE TRAIN THEM AS OFFICERS AND LET THEM WALK THE BEATS IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

>> Woodruff: IS THERE A SENSE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS ARE BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY? WE KNOW GRAY'S FAMILY IS SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY, DON'T COMMIT THIS VIOLENCE.

>> GRAY'S FAMILY HAS SPOKEN OUT. THEY VERY MUCH WANT TO SEE A PEACEFUL PROTEST. THEY SAID IT OVER THE WEEKEND. SOME RELATIVES SAID IT AGAIN TODAY. ONE OF THE MINISTERS WHO SPOKE A FEW HOURS AGO SAID WHAT'S HAPPENED HERE IS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL. WILL THERE BE SERIOUS EFFORTS GORED? THERE HAVE BEEN MOMENTS BALTIMORE'S HISTORY IN THE PAST 30 40RBGS 50 YEARS. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED. THERE IS SOME SKEPTICISM. PEOPLE ARE HOPING BECAUSE SINCE BALTIMORE SUDDENLY FINDS ITSELF ON AN INTERNATIONAL STAGE, THAT MAYBE THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE THERE WILL BE REAL CHANGE.

>> Woodruff: JACKIE JUDD REPORTING FOR US FROM BALTIMORE, VERY CLOSE TO WHERE THERE HAS BEEN UNREST ON THE AFTERNOON OF THIS FUNERAL. JACKIE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> SURE THING.

>> Woodruff: THE BRIEF DISRUPTION IN JACKIE'S INTERVIEW WAS CAUSED BY A ROCK THROWN NEAR HER LOKES. THIS EVENING PRESIDENT OBAMA SPOKE TO THE BALTIMORE MAYOR AND MARYLAND GOVERNOR HAS PUT THE NATIONAL GUARD ON ALERT TO RESPOND AS RAPIDLY AS NEEDED AND THE ORIOLES HAVE CANCELED THEIR GAME TONIGHT.

>> Ifill: TOMORROW MORNING THE SUPREME COURT WILL RETURN TO THE DEBATE OVER WHETHER STATES SHOULD BE ABLE TO OUTLAW SAME SAME-SEX MARRIAGE. THE JUSTICES WILL HEAR CASES FROM FOUR STATES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE GAY MARRIAGE BANS: KENTUCKY, MICHIGAN, OHIO AND TENNESSEE. TONIGHT WE HEAR FROM KENTUCKY FAMILIES WHOSE PERSONAL STORIES ARE AT THE CENTER OF THE LEGAL BATTLE AT THE HIGH COURT TOMORROW.

>> RANDY AND I MET ON AUGUST 17, 1991.

>> AND IT WAS JUST AMAZING THE CONNECTION THAT WE HAD IMMEDIATELY. ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD BEFORE THE NIGHT WAS EVEN OVER WAS HOW WE BOTH LONGED TO BE PARENTS AND WE FEARED THAT BY ADMITTING THAT WE WERE HOMOSEXUAL MEANT FORFEITING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CHILDREN AND TO REALLY BE A FAMILY.

>> I WORK WITH THE FAMILY FOUNDATION OF KENTUCKY.

>> TIM! HOW ARE YOU? WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING TODAY?

>> SLAVING AWAY.

>> AND MY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN NOT ONLY AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN AND FATHER OF FOUR AND A HUSBAND, BUT PROFESSIONALLY AS SOMEONE WHO'S INVOLVED IN PUBLIC POLICY QUESTIONS IN KENTUCKY. SO I WAS THE ONE ACTUALLY WHO TOOK THE LITTLE YELLOW SLIP OF PAPER INTO THE STATE SENATOR'S OFFICE, WHO THEN FILED THE LEGISLATION WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

>> IN EARLY 1994 WE DECIDED TO START TRYING TO CREATE A FAMILY. WE STARTED AT THE STATE TO SEE IF WE COULD ADOPT THROUGH THE STATE AND WE WERE TOLD THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> MY NAME IS RANDY JOHNSON.

>> HOW'S THE BACON COMING DAD?

>> I AM PARTNER TO PAUL CAMPION FOR ALMOST 24 YEARS AND WE HAVE FOUR CHILDREN TOGETHER AND HAVE BUILT A WONDERFUL FAMILY.

>> MY NAME IS MARTIN COTHRAN. MY WIFE AND I WERE HIGH SCHOOL SWEETHEARTS. WE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, BOTH GOT JOBS, GOT MARRIED. WE WERE STILL IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THEN WE ENDED UP MOVING TO KENTUCKY. THE CULTURE'S DIFFERENT OUT HERE. IT'S SLOWER, MORE TRADITIONAL. WE HAD FOUR CHILDREN HERE, ALL BORN IN KENTUCKY, AND YOU COULDN'T DRAG US OUT OF HERE.

>> BUT WE DID FIND ONE AGENCY ADOPTIONS OF KENTUCKY, THAT SAID SURE. WE JUST CARE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOVING PARENTS SO THAT'S THE ONLY CRITERIA THAT WE NEED.

>> THAT WAS THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. WE WERE LOOKING FOR BEING JUDGED AS OUR CAPABILITIES OF BEING PARENTS, NOT ON THE FACT THAT WE WERE A GAY COUPLE.

>> WE HAD PASSED A STATUTORY LAW IN 1998 THAT WAS CALLED THE DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT. BUT THERE WAS A FEELING THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH THAT THERE WOULD BE COURT CHALLENGES LATER ON AND THAT THE BEST THING TO DO TO MAKE SURE THE POLICY LASTED WAS TO PUT IT IN THE CONSTITUTION. THE MEASURE WAS PUT ON THE BALLOT IN 2004 AND IT PASSED WITH 75% OF KENTUCKIANS VOTING IN FAVOR.

>> TWO CAR SEATS TWO SWINGS TWO EVERYTHING.

>> TEVIN AND TYLER WERE BORN IN FEBRUARY OF '95.

>> FAST FORWARD EIGHT YEARS TO WHEN MACKENZIE WAS BORN IN 2003.

>> AND THEN FOUR YEARS AFTER WE ADOPTED MACKENZIE, WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE PAUL IS A SCHOOL COUNSELOR AND ONE OF HIS STUDENTS WAS A SEVEN YEAR OLD BI-RACIAL CHILD IN FOSTER CARE. SO THIS LITTLE FIRST GRADER CAME AND ASKED PAUL TO ADOPT HIM.

>> WE HAVE TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE LAWS BECAUSE OF THE BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN.

>> BECAUSE THIS CASE IS GOING NOW TO THE SUPREME COURT, WE'RE FILING AN AMICUS BRIEF TO PRESENT THE JUSTICES WITH OUR ARGUMENTS.

>> WE HOPE THAT WHEN THE SUPREME COURT LOOKS AT THIS, THAT THEY WILL REALIZE THAT ONCE AGAIN THEY'RE NOT THERE TO MAKE NEW LAW. THEY'RE THERE TO INTERPRET THE LAW THAT HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH THE REGULAR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. AND THAT THEY'LL SEE THESE CASES FOR WHAT THEY ARE: WHICH IS INVENTING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THERE.

>> I'M STILL NOT A LEGAL PARENT TO TEVIN AND TYLER BECAUSE THE LAWS HAVE NOT CHANGED IN KENTUCKY. ONLY ONE PERSON OF THE SAME GENDER CAN ADOPT THE CHILDREN. SO, I AM THE LEGAL PARENT TO MACKENZIE AND PAUL'S THE LEGAL PARENT TO THE THREE BOYS.

>> THE MARRIAGE ISSUE IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE WHERE WE HAVE A TRADITION THAT WE WANT TO TEAR DOWN.

>> I MEAN FOR ANYONE TO SAY THE FOUNDING FATHERS INTENDED THAT THERE BE SAME SEX MARRIAGE AND THIS WAS SOMEHOW THERE IN THE CONSTITUTION FOR OVER 200 YEARS AND NO ONE NOTICED IT UNTIL IT HAPPENED TO BECOME POLITICALLY FASHIONABLE NOW IS A BIT OF A STRETCH.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS MARRIAGE EQUALITY IS SO IMPORTANT TO US, SO THAT ALL FOUR KIDS CAN BE LEGALLY BOTH OF OURS. WE HAD A LOT OF ANXIETY ALONG THE WAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE EARLY YEARS BECAUSE IF I WOULD HAVE PASSED AWAY, RANDY HAS NO LEGAL RIGHTS TO THEM AT ALL.

>> SO ARE YOU BUSY?

>> THE ARGUMENT THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE BECAUSE OF HEALTH INSURANCE REASONS OR CERTAIN COMPLICATIONS WITH ADOPTIONS, THE THING ABOUT THAT IS WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE TO DO THAT. YOU CAN PASS LEGISLATION TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PROBLEMS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.

>> AND THERE ARE OTHER LAWS THAT ARE QUITE DISCRIMINATORY. ONE OF OUR CHILDREN JUST TURNED 16 RECENTLY AND WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT GETTING HIS DRIVER'S PERMIT. I HAD TAKEN DESEAN TO THE D.M.V. TO GET HIS DRIVER'S PERMIT, HOWEVER, SINCE MY NAME WAS NOT ON HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR ADOPTION PAPERWORK, THEY REFUSED TO ALLOW ME TO ACCOMPANY DESEAN TO TAKE HIS DRIVER'S TEST.

>> BLESS OH LORD THESE GIFTS WE ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE.

>> BY CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE AND EXPANDING IT SO BROADLY THAT EVERYTHING EVERY MODEL OF MARRIAGE IS EQUAL, IT'S A MESSAGE WE SEND TO THE NEXT GENERATION THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP IS EVERY BIT AS GOOD AS THIS RELATIONSHIP. WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

>> BLESS US OH LORD FOR THESE GIFTS WE ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE.

>> ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANTED TO JOIN THIS LAWSUIT AGAINST THE STATE OF KENTUCKY TO RECOGNIZE US AS A MARRIED COUPLE WAS BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN KENTUCKY FEEL THREATENED BY FAMILIES LIKE OURS, AS IF WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF MARRIAGE. WHEN, IF THEY REALLY KNEW US, THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE NOT THREATENING AT ALL. IN FACT, WE JUST WANT THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY DO. WE DON'T WANT TO DICTATE ANYONE'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. WE JUST WANT THEM TO RECOGNIZE THAT CIVIL LAW IS VERY IMPORTANT TO FAMILIES LIKE OURS.

>> THE ARGUMENT THAT THE GAY RIGHTS ISSUE IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUES IS BASICALLY SAYING THAT GAYS ARE IN THE SAME POSITION AS BLACKS. NOW THAT'S BEEN THE ANALOGY THAT'S BEEN DRAWN. WELL I'M SORRY. THEY WERE NOT SHIPPED OVER HERE IN SLAVE SHIPS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DRINK AT DIFFERENT DRINKING FOUNTAINS. THEY WERE NOT PERSECUTED IN THE WAY BLACKS HAVE BEEN. GAYS ARE NOT POLITICALLY POWERLESS. THEY SHOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. BUT TO BE TREATED FAIRLY DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE.

>> EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW SHOULD NOT BE LEFT UP TO A REFERENDUM OR VOTE BY THE RESIDENTS. MARRIAGE SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR GAYS AND LESBIANS AS IT IS FOR HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES. AND WE THINK THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS CAN HAPPEN IS THROUGH THE COURTS.

>> IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES IN FAVOR OF MARRIAGE EQUALITY THROUGHOUT THE LAND, PROBABLY THE FIRST THING.

>> IT MEANS AN AWFUL LOT TO US. HAVING SPENT 23 YEARS TOGETHER AND NOT BEING ABLE TO OFFER OUR KIDS THE ASSURANCE THAT THEIR PARENTS ARE MARRIED TO EACH OTHER AND ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANY OTHER FAMILY, WILL BE A HUGE EVENT.

>> IF WE GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND THE COURT STRIKES DOWN STATE LAWS ON MARRIAGE, I THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO ERODE THE LEGITIMACY OF THE JUDICIARY. PEOPLE WILL INCREASINGLY SEE THIS AS A PLACE THAT IS A VERY POLITICAL PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT WHEN IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY UNFORTUNATE.

>> Woodruff: TUNE IN TOMORROW NIGHT'S NEWSHOUR FOR FULL ANALYSIS OF THE ARGUMENTS BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

>> Ifill: REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES CAMPAIGNING IN IOWA THIS WEEKEND WERE ALSO DRAWN INTO THE GAY MARRIAGE DEBATE, WHILE THE LEADING DEMOCRAT COPED WITH PROBLEMS OF HER OWN. IT'S POLITICS MONDAY, AND WE TURN NOW TO AMY WALTER OF THE "COOK POLITICAL REPORT" AND TAMARA KEITH OF NPR. THE FAITH AND FREEDOM SUMMIT IN IOWA WE SAW THIS WEEKEND LET'S CALL IT THE BETWIXT AND BETWEEN. LET'S LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE MEMBERS FOR CANDIDATES OF PRESIDENT HAD TO SAY ABOUT THIS IN IOWA.

>> THIS WHOLE DEBATE ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE, I REMIND EVERYONE THAT MARRIAGE IS AN INSTITUTION THAT EXISTED BEFORE GOVERNMENT ITSELF THAT THE INSTITUTION OF MARRIAGE IS ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN EXISTED BEFORE OUR LAWS EXISTED.

>> I BELIEVE IN TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN AND UNLIKE PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SECRETARY CLINTON THE GOVERNOR OF LOUISIANA'S VIEWS, MY VIEWS, THEY'RE NOT EVOLVING WITH THE TIMES.

>> MARRIAGE IS A DECISION THAT SHOULD BE DEFINED BY OUR STATE GOVERNMENTS NOT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. IN WISCONSIN AND OTHER PLACES ACROSS THE COUNTRY MARRIAGE IS DEFINED AS ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN AND STATES SHOULD MAKE THE DECISION.

>> Ifill: THIS IS AN UNAVOIDABLE DEBATE, ISN'T IT, TAMARA?

>> YES AND THE SUPREME COURT IS TAKING THIS UP TOMORROW. THERE WILL BE A DECISION ALSO DEBATED. THESE CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN ASKED WHETHER THEY WOULD GO TO A GAY WEDDING. THEY WERE AT THIS EVANGELICAL CONFERENCE AND, SO, OF COURSE THEY HAD TO TALK ABOUT GAY MARRIAGE AND THEY ARE AS YOU SAY BETWIXT AND BETWEEN. THE GENERAL ELECTION ELECTORATE, SOMETHING LIKE 59% OF AMERICANS NOW SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE, BUT AMOK REPUBLICAN PRIMARY VOTERS IT'S SOMETHING MORE LIKE 29%. THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE WHO COULD GET THEM OUT OF THE PRIMARY AND INTO THE GENERAL WHILE NOT COMPLETELY POTENTIALLY ALIENATING EVERYONE VOTING LATER.

>> Ifill: TED CRUZ WHO TOOK A PICTURE WITH A GAY HOTEL OWNER IN NEW YORK, HE GOT IMMEDIATE CRITICISM FROM THE GAY COMMUNITY FOR EVEN HAVING HOSTED TED CRUZ.

>> AND THIS HOTEL OWNER ENDED UP GOING ON TO Facebook AND APOLOGIZING. SAYING ONCE I FOUND OUT, BOY, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THIS GUY'S POSITIONS WERE, WHICH IS KIND OF AMAZING IF YOU BRING A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO YOUR HOME, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR POSITIONS ARE THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. SO THAT BECOMES THE QUESTION, THE BALANCING ACT REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ARE TAKING IN A PRIMARY VERSUS WHAT THEY'LL TALK ABOUT IN A GENERAL ELECTION. MOST OF THEM WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS ARE TRYING TO DEEMPHASIZE THE ISSUE. THAIP AT A FAITH AND FREEDOM CONFERENCE, THIS IS EVANGELICALS, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MARRIAGE BEING BETWEEN A MAN AND WOMAN. BUT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THEY'LL TALK ABOUT. THE BIGGER ISSUE, THIS IS A PARTY THAT TALKED ABOUT DIVERSITY. THEY HAVE TO BRANCH OUT FROM JUST WINNING WHITE VOTERS, THEY HAVE TO GET MINORITY AND YOUNGER VOTERS. THIS IS A GENERATIONAL ISSUE, EVEN AMONG REPUBLICANS THAT ARE YOUNGER THIS IS AN ISSUE THEY SUPPORT.

>> Ifill: HILLARY CLINTON, WHO OF COURSE, THIS WEEKEND AND IN THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS HAVE COME UNDER A LOT OF CRITICISM FOR THE WAY THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS HANDLED OR ACCEPTED MONEY AND AFTER SAYING ALL OF LAST WEEK THIS IS KIND AFTER A PLOT BY A RIGHT WING AUTHOR TO BRING HER DOWN. THEY CALLED FOR ACCOUNTABLE AND SAID WE HAVE MADE MISTAKES AND ARE WORKING TO REMEDY THEM AND TAKEN STEPS TONE SURE THEY DON'T HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. WHAT'S THAT ALL MEAN, TAMARA?

>> IT'S ALL OVER!

>> Ifill: OH, WELL FINE. 'M SURPRISED THEY SAID MISTAKES WERE MADE. THE CHALLENGE FOR HILLARY CLINTON IS IN SOME WAYS SHE WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THE GOOD WORKS THAT THE FOUNDATION HAS DONE OR WOULD LOVE TO JUST SIT IN COFFEE SHOPS AND TALK TO REAL AMERICANS OR HAND-SELECTED REAL AMERICANS BUT INSTEAD THEY'RE HAVING TO ANSWER FOR ACCOUNTING ISSUES WITH THE FOUNDATION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE CLINTONS ENRICHED THEMSELVES THROUGH THEIR FOUNDATION AND NOT REALLY -- AND THAT REALLY FEEDS THAT NARRATIVE THAT IS THE NARRATIVE THAT THEY AREN'T OF THE PEOPLE.

>> Ifill: EVERYDAY AMERICANS. THE EVERYDAY AMERICAN SLOGAN. WHAT VOTERS ARE MORE FRUSTRATED ABOUT, ABOUT WASHINGTON, IS IT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL. BUT THEY BELIEVE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WHO ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE USING THEIR POSITION TO MAKE THEMSELVES WEALTHY. THIS DOES NOT HELP HILLARY CLINTON CHANGE THE PERCEPTION. SO THERE'S THE PERCEPTION THAT YES, THERE WERE DONORS GIVING MONEY TO GET ACCESS --

>> Ifill: NOT PROVEN.

>> Woodruff: NOT PROVEN. THIS IS ALL JUST APPEARANCE, BUT THE APPEARANCE THAT YOU HAVE A CHARITY THAT'S DOING GOOD WORKS BUT AT THE SAME TIME THE DONORS TO THAT CHARITY ARE PAYING YOU AND YOUR HUSBAND TO SPEAK HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO SPEAK TO THEIR GROUPS. THAT BECOMES --

>> Ifill: OKAY. LET'S GET AWAY FROM BETWIXT AND BETWEEN AND GET TO ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. THIS WOULD BE JEB BUSH. I HAVE ALL THESE LINED UP. JEB BUSH, THE WORTHER OF FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH CAME OUT IN A PRIVATE NOT VERY LONG MEETING WITH DONORS AND WAS CANDID SAYING I'M A STONE AROUND MY BROTHER'S NECK.

>> YEAH, THE BUSH NAME IS A PROBLEM FOR JEB BUSH AND JEB BUSH KNOWS THIS AND MOST PEOPLE KNOW . THIS AMERICANS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DYNASTY THING YOU FELT GO OUT AND TALK TO RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND THEY SAY NO MORE DYNASTIES, NO MORE CLINTONS AND BUSHES. AND JEB BUSH IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ANSWER THAT AND HIS BROTHER POINTED OUT THE PROBLEM AND SAID I WON'T CAMPAIGN WITH HIM JUST KOTO MAKE SURE.

>> Ifill: THE OTHER THING ABOUT JEB BUSH IS HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

>> HE WAS GOING TO STAIR EVERYBODY OUT OF THE RACE.

>> Ifill: DIDN'T HAPPEN. TODAY ANOTHER STORY IS OUT TALKING ABOUT THE SUPER PAC HE'S RAISING MONEY FOR NOW WILL HAVE MORE MONEY THAN HAS EVER BEEN RAISED BY APTLE CAPT. IN THE HISTORY OF WHENEVER AND YET YOU'RE HEARING MORE CANDIDATES STILL ANNOUNCING THEY WILL GET IN. THE FACT BARACK OBAMA BEAT HILLARY CLINTON IS GIVING A LOT OF REPUBLICANS THE SAME SENSE THEY CAN OVERCOME WHAT LOOKS LIKE A VERY DIFFICULT FRONTRUNNER, AND NOW THAT EVERY OTHER PERSON IT SEEMS WANTS TO PUT A SUPER PAC TOGETHER EVERY MILLIONAIRE WILL PUT ONE TOGETHER TO HELP A FAVORITE CANDIDATE, THE IDEA YOU CAN'T RAISE ENOUGH MONEY TO COMPETE INDIVIDUALLY IS NO LONGER SUCH A BARRIER. WHEN YOUR NAME IS BUSH AND YOU'RE ONLY 15% IN THE POLLS YOU DON'T LOOK AS SCARY.

>> Ifill: AMY WALTER OF COOK POLITICAL REPORT. TAMARA KEITH OF N.P.R. THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> Woodruff: IT'S CLOSING IN ON THREE YEARS SINCE A MASS SHOOTING AT A MOVIE THEATER IN AURORA, COLORADO, LEFT 12 PEOPLE DEAD AND 70 OTHERS INJURED, MAKING IT THE LARGEST NUMBER OF CASUALTIES FROM ONE SHOOTING ON AMERICAN SOIL. TODAY, THE TRIAL OF THE ACCUSED SHOOTER, JAMES HOLMES, GOT UNDERWAY. HE'S BEEN CHARGED WITH 166 COUNTS FOR ATTACKS THAT TOOK PLACE ON JULY 20, 2012. PROSECUTORS ARE SEEKING THE DEATH PENALTY. HOLMES HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY BY REASON OF INSANITY. OPENING ARGUMENTS BEGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND PROSECUTORS IMMEDIATELY CHALLENGED THE INSANTY ARGUMENT. THERE WERE TWO PSYCHIATRISTS, ABOUT A YEAR APART, ASKED TO DO INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENTS AND EVALUATIONS OF HIM. THEY WERE PICKED BY THE COLORADO MENTAL HEALTH INSTITUTE OF PUEBLO THE STATE MENTAL HOSPITAL AT THE DIRECTION OF THE COURT, AND BOTH OF THEM SAY THE SAME THING THAT THAT GUY WAS SANE WHEN HE TRIED TO MURDER ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT THEATER BACK IN JULY OF 2012.

>> Woodruff:

>> Woodruff: SHORTLY AFTER PROSECUTORS BEGAN THEIR CASE I SPOKE WITH MARY MACCARTHY OF FEATURE STORY NEWS. SHE WAS IN THE COURTROOM EARLIER TODAY. MARY MacCARTHY, WELCOME. FIRST OF ALL, DESCRIBE THE SCENE IN THE COURTROOM TODAY.

>> WELL, TO SAY THAT THIS IS A LONG-AWAITED TRIAL IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. IT'S BEEN OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS, JUST OVER 1,000 DAYS SINCE THAT FATEFUL NIGHT IN THE AURORA MOVIE THEATER WHERE A GUNMAN OPENED FIRE. SO THE THE DENVER COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY OVERVICTIMS AND ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THE TRIAL HAS BEEN ON EDGE WIT AGO LONG TIME. SO LOTS OF MEDIA INTERNATIONAL MEDIA, PEOPLE FOLLOWING THE CASE CLOSELY. IN THE COURTROOM, OF COURSE MANY VICTIMS, VICTIMS' FAMILIES AND FRIENDS, A PACKED COURTROOM. JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE SCOPE OF THIS TRIAL, THE CROOM HAD TO BE BUILT OUT TO MAKE FOR A LARGER JURY BOX. NORMALLY A JUROR WOULD HAVE 12 SEATS IN THE JURY BOX HERE THEY HAVE 24 SEATS FOR THE 12 JURORS AND 12 ALTERNATES. THE JUDGE BAND 12 ALTERNATES BECAUSE THE TRIAL IS LIKELY TO LAST SO LONG THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF SOMEONE GETS SICK AND ANY CON CONTINGENCY, THEY HAVE JURORS THAT WILL LAST TILL THE END OF THIS HIGH PROFILE VIAL.

>> Woodruff: WHAT DID YOU HEAR FROM THE PROSECUTION TODAY IN THEIR OPENING ARGUMENT?

>> SOME OF THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRIAL, ABOUT THE EVIDENCE WERE REVEALED IN JUST THE VERY FEW FIRST MINUTES OF THE OPENING STATEMENT BY THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO IS KNOWN FOR HIS VERY OL' QUINT, CON -- ELOQUENT, CONCISE AND HARD-HITTING STATEMENTS. HE REVEALED IN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES THAT THE TWO MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATIONS OF JAMES HOLMES CARRIED OUT BY THE STATE, THAT BOTH OF THOSE EVALUATIONS FOUND MR. HOLMES TO BE SANE. THERE HAD BEEN MUCH EXPLANATION AND EXPECTATION THAT PERHAPS ONE OF THE DOCTORS WHO EVALUATED HIM HAD FOUND HIM TO BE INSANE AND THE OTHER SANE AND THAT THE TRIAL WOULD COME DOWN TO JURY HAVING TO DECIDE BETWEEN THE TWO STATE-MANDATED DOCTORS AND DECIDE WIG DOCTOR THEY'D AGREE WITH. THE FACT IS IT ALMOST MAKES IT SEEM LIKE A RELATIVELY EASY CASE FOR THE PROSECUTION BECAUSE BOTH OF THE DOCTORS DID FIND JAMES HOLMES TO BE SANE. THE OTHER -- ONE OTHER BIG MYSTERY WAS THE NOTEBOOK MR. HOLMES MAILED TO HIS PSYCHIATRIST AT THE UNIVERSITY OF COLORADO THE DAY BEFORE THE SHOOTING. TO THIS POINT, WE DID NOT KNOW THE CONTENTS OF THE NOTEBOOK. NOW AFTER THE OPENING STATEMENT OF THE PROSECUTION, WE HAVE SEEN MANY PAGES OF THE NOTEBOOK WITH MR. HOLMES OWN HANDWRITING, A CURSIVE SCRIPT, SOMEWHAT CHILD-LIKE, IN WHICH HE LAYS OUT HIS PLANS TO KILL. VERY CLEARLY, HE LAYS OUT HIS VARIOUS METHODOLOGY AND EVEN, IN FACT, SOME OF HIS REASONING. HE SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, HIS MESSAGE, WHEN HE HOPED TO SOME DAY CARRY OUT A KILLING WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO MESSAGE. A VERY NILISTIC POINT OF VIEW. HE SAID HE THOUGHT ABOUT CARRYING OUT A MASS KILLING AT AN AIRPORT BUT THAT COB CONSTRUED AS A TERRORIST MESSAGE. HE WIND WANT THAT. HE WANTED THIS TO BE THAT HIS KILLING AND LIFE HAS NO MEANING. >>MEANING.

>> Ifill: WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO HEAR FROM THE DEFENSE?

>> KNOWING THAT THE STATE MANDATED EXPERTS BOTH FOUND MR. HOLMES TO BE SANE THAT MEANS THAT THE DEFENSE'S CASE WILL HINGE ON THE TESTIMONY OF THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS. THEY, OF COURSE, CALLED IN SEVERAL. WE KNOW SEVERAL PERHAPS ALL -- SEVERAL, AT LEAST, ANYWAY -- HAVE FOUND HIM TO BE INSANE. WE ALSO KNOW THE EXPERTS SPENT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS TIME WITH THE DEFENDANT THAN THE STATE'S EXPERTS DID. SO AGAIN THE DEFENSE'S CASE WILL HINGE ON THE EXPERTS. LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE A BATTLE OF TESTIMONY BETWEEN THE EXPERTS CALLED IN STRICTLY BY THE DEFENSE AND THE STATE EXPERTS WHOSE POINT OF VIEW AGREES WITH THE PROSECUTION.

>> Woodruff: MARY MacCARTHY WITH THE TRIAL IN COLORADO WHICH HAS BEEN UNDERWAY TWO AND A HALF YEARS. WE THANK YOU.

>> Ifill: ON FRIDAY EVENING, SABEEN MAHMOUD, A LEADING PAKISTANI HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, WAS SHOT AND KILLED OUTSIDE THE SECOND FLOOR, THE CAFE SHE RAN IN PAKISTAN'S LARGEST CITY, KARACHI. HER MOTHER WAS SERIOUSLY WOUNDED IN THE ATTACK. SHORTLY BEFORE HER KILLING, MAHMOUD POSTED A PHOTO ONLINE OF AN EVENT SHE'D JUST HELD AT THE CAFE, WHICH WAS KNOWN FOR ITS LIVELY POLITICAL AND ARTS DISCUSSIONS. FRIDAY, THE TOPIC WAS KILLINGS AND THE DISAPPEARANCE OF POLITICAL ACTIVISTS IN THE PROVINCE OF BALUCHISTAN, ALLEGEDLY CARRIED OUT BY THE PAKISTANI MILITARY. JUST LAST MONTH, NEWSHOUR CORRESPONDENT FRED DE SAM LAZARO SPOKE WITH MAHMOUD AT HER CAFE ABOUT HER WORK, ITS DANGERS, AND THE SPACE SHE CREATED.

>> PEOPLE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THEIR MINDS OFF OF WHATEVER IS GOING ON AND BE IN AN OPEN SPACE. IT'S OPEN TO ALL AND ANYONE WHO CHOOSES TO WALK THROUGH ITS DOORS. IT'S A MODEL. IT'S A TEMPLATE FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO CREATE SIMILAR PUBLIC SPACES IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE RESPITE WE NEED FROM THE VIOLENCE AND ANGUISH SOMETIMES THAT YOU HAVE TO SEE. (MUSIC) ITHE TIME IS COMING.

>> Ifill: SABEEN MAHMOUD WAS BURIED SATURDAY. THE MURDER WAS CONDEMNED BY PAKISTAN'S PRIME MINISTER AND THE UNITED STATES. TO TELL US MORE ABOUT HER LIFE AND WORK, FRED DE SAM LAZARO JOINS US NOW. FRED, HOW DID YOU COME TO KNOW OF SABEEN MAHMOUD.

>> WE HAD GONE TO VISIT HER BECAUSE SHE WAS AN ICON FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE IN PAKISTAN, PARTICULARLY IN KARACHI. HE WAS A TECH ENTREPRENEUR EARLIER IN LIFE AND ONLY 40 WHEN KILLED, BUT THERE IS A GROWING TECHY CULTURE IN KARACHI AND THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF OUR STORY. WE'LL HAVE THAT STORY PRETTY SOON IN THE "NewsHour". I HAD GONE TO HER TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT WHOLE SCENE AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE IN KARACHI FOR SOMEONE VERY CONNECTED TO THE WORLD AND YET HEMMED IN BY ALL THE POLITICAL TURMOIL THAT PAKISTAN IS ROILED IN RIGHT NOW.

>> Ifill: SHE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT BEING CAVALIER ABOUT FEAR. DID SHE RECOGNIZE THE RISK?

>> I THINK SHE WAS WELL AWARE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE RISK BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST VIOLENT CITIES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TARGETED KILLINGS, PARTICULARLY OF PEOPLE CONSIDERED LIBERAL AND PEOPLE WHO DARE TO VENTURE INTO NO-GO AREAS, AND BALUCHISTAN IS ONE OF THE AREAS. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE ARMED ESCORTS BUT SHE TRAVELED FREELY. SHE SAID WHEN THE TIME COMES, THE TIME COMES.

>> Ifill: ONE OF HER FRIENDS IS QUOTED SAYING SHE WAS SILENCED. DO WE KNOW WHO DID THE SILENCING? ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT THE CAUSE OF THIS WAS?

>> THERE ARE FINGERS BEING POINT POINTED IN ALL KINDS OF DIRECTIONS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS IS THERE'S A CLIMATE OF IMPUNITY AND NO ONE CAN INTELLIGENTLY POINT TO SUSPECTS IN THIS CLIMATE. ONE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE A CONSENSUS IS IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THE PEOPLE WHO KILLED HER WILL EVER SEE JUSTICE.

>> Ifill: IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WERE TO HAPPEN PER, WE WOULD ASSUME THERE'S A CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM WHICH STEPS UP AND GETS TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT SO FAR?

>> THERE HASN'T BEEN FROM SIMILAR KINDS OF EPISODES. WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE SO-CALLED LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT IN PAKISTAN WHO HAVE BEEN FELLED BY GUNFIRE, SOCIAL WORKERS PLEATICLE LEADERS WHO DARED SPEAK OUT FOR EXAMPLE, AGAINST THE BLASPHEMY LAW WHICH IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL. VERY LITTLE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT AND, OF COURSE, THE MEDIA BUZZ DIES DOWN. THERE IS A GREAT GROUNDSWELL OF DEEP MOURNING RIGHT NOW AND HOW MUCH THAT MIGHT SUSTAIN AN ONGOING JUDICIAL PROCESS IS A QUESTION. PEOPLE ARE DOUBTFUL THE REAL CULPRITS WILL BE FOUND, HOWEVER.

>> Ifill: FRED YOU ALWAYS FRIDAY US THESE UNTOLD STORIES AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS INCREDIBLY AND SADLY TIMELY, ACTUALLY. THANK YOU FOR THAT WE'LL SEE YOUR COMPLETE REPORT LATER ON IN THE "NewsHour".

>> THANKS, GWEN.

>> Woodruff: ON THE NEWSHOUR ONLINE-- FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS, THE CULLMAN COUNTY COURTHOUSE IN ALABAMA REMAINED OPEN TODAY, THE FOURTH MONDAY OF APRIL, WHICH IS OFFICIALLY CONFEDERATE MEMORIAL DAY IN THE STATE. SOME SAY THE MOVE STIRRED UP 150 YEARS OF ANGST SINCE THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR. READ ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE HOLIDAY, AND SEE WHICH OTHER STATES OBSERVE IT. THAT'S ON OUR HOME PAGE, pbs.org/newshour.

>> Ifill: TUNE IN LATER THIS EVENING: CHARLIE ROSE UPDATES THE EARTHQUAKE IN NEPAL. AND THAT'S THE NEWSHOUR FOR TONIGHT. ON TUESDAY, WITH A MAJOR TRADE DEAL WITH ASIA IN THE WORKS, THE PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN VISITS THE WHITE HOUSE. I'M GWEN IFILL.

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